64 is young.;) I just guess I hate the idea of Scaled Composites now belonging to one of the largest, most evil, expensive, good-ole-boy, overcharging, never invented anything really new companies.
It's like seeing Bill Gates pay an open source project to get the rights to the code. Depressing.
So, basically, what you're saying is that a new, fresh company sold out to and older behemoth. Does this mean the end of new, fresh ideas from Burt Rutan?
What most people forget is that Free Software is a balance between the rights of the creator and the user. Anything that disturbs that balance needs to be dealt with. Both patents and DRM represent things that disturb the rights of the users in favor of the creators.
RMS is not trying to force his personal beliefs on people. You don't have to change to the GPLv3, no one does. Linus, on the other hand, is coming out and engaging in name calling. I've seen more and more of this from Linus over the past few years. I don't see him as any better than RMS, in fact, I see him as worse. To me he seems like the kind of person who, if you don't agree with him, he'll freely and publically call you names. That doesn't seem to me to be the approach of an intelligent or reasonable person. It seems to be to be the approach of someone who's ego has gotten a little too big for his own good. Not one of the reasons Linus has yet given for his dislike of the GPLv3 has made a great deal of sense from my point of view. Linus seems unable or, possibly, unwilling to engage in a debate about this pertaining to the facts of the matter. Instead he would rather distract people from the real issues by calling RMS a fanatic and calling anyone that adopts the GPLv3 hippocrites.
I don't live my life to please others. My project and many others are in the process of adopting the GPLv3. If Linus thinks I'm a hippocrite or that others are, because of it... then so be it. I think his rationale is completely wrong.
He states that the GPLv3 will make it difficult for business' to use GPL'd software. This is, in fact, correct. The GPLv3 will make it more difficult for companies to restrict the rights of their users (people like you and me). The GPL was meant to protect against this type of thing. As the world evolved, the GPLv2 became inadequate due to the simple fact that many of the technologies and problems which exist now did not exist when it was drafted. It therefore, has legal holes it in nowadays that one could drive a truck through. The GPLv3 was meant to address the shortcomings and, in some cases, the lack of clarity of the GPLv2. It protects the users better and is clearer on what is and is not distribution.
If Linus wants to play name calling games, that's just fine. If, however, he wants to actually discuss the facts, he and the rest of his sycophantic followers should engage the FSF in a debate.. or, at least, they should have been more of a part of the drafting of the GPLv3 than they were... certainly... if you don't put your 2 cents into something, especially when you're invited to do so (GPLv3 comments were open to the public and, indeed, Eben Moglen publically asked the Linux contributors to participate)... then, in my opinion, you have no cause to complain when the process is finish.
Linus and his ilk had their chance to say something and they remained silent. Why should they be listened to now?
Linus gets a big boost from calling RMS a fanatic... quite frankly I'm not sure if he does it because he actually believes it or because fomenting dissent within the community makes him more popular.
Honestly, I find the infighting between RMS and Linus to be boring and beneath notice. If Linus wants to continue to expose the Linux kernel to the legal risks caused by the flaws in GPLv2, then that is entirely up to him. I, however, am free to switch to another open source OS, like the upcoming Open Solaris or, indeed, help with one which will be GPLv3, namely... GNU-Hurd.
Linus needs to seriously get a grip and stop believing his own press.
The GPL is a balance between the freedom of the people who make/distribute software and those who use it. The GPLv3 attempts to address certain inequities that have arisen over the past few years which have upset this balance. These inequities threaten our freedom as users of the software (things like DRM) and also threaten to allow big companies to marginalize Linux and other GPL'd software (things like the Novell-MS, Linspire-MS deals... etc).
You can rest assured that RMS and the FSF has taken these into account when considering the changes for GPLv3. Linus' focus seems to be very pro-business. He seems to believe that whatever is good for businesses using Linux is good for Linux. In doing so he either doesn't care or, indeed, isn't aware of these issues. They are a threat to the future efficacy of Linux in the marketplace.
I, personally, believe that the GPLv3 is a step in the right direction and that, if Linus wants to preserve Linux for the future, then he'll move the kernel to it.
Not really. The problem is that the Novell patent license guarantees that only people who are SuSE customers cannot be sued. According to the GPL, you must grant any patent rights to ALL users, not to a specific subset.
In short, this has nothing to do with the fact that they made a deal with Microsoft and it has everything to do with the legal effect of the deal.
GNUstep implements many parts of Cocoa. It's not *simply* an implementation of OPENSTEP. It's also an implementation most of the Cocoa additions to OPENSTEP as well. GNUstep is a cross platform API first and foremost.
Wow... not to engage in Ad Hominem, but I don't know anyone who holds that opinion of IB. IB has been hailed by many people as the best GUI builder around.
That said, his POV is not exactly neutral.
Then again... neither is mine... I am the maintainer of Gorm (the IB equivalent for GNUstep).
Sounds like SGI has been taking a page out of SCO's book. Next thing you know they'll be spreading false claims about how parts of IRIX were illegally contributed to Linux or some crap like another three letter "S" company did.
The GPL v3 doesn't need to be used by anyone who doesn't want to use it. The FSF could come out with GPL v3 and everyone could simply go about thier business and continue to use v2, if they want to.
The fact is, however, that v3 clarifies many things that have been concerns in v2, since v2 is somewhat old and doesn't adequately address such issues as patents and DRM.
Also, Linus and crew are making a huge deal about making lots and lots of noise when Eben Moglen has asked them to PLEASE be a part of the process instead of simply complaining.
BMI is an inaccurate measure of body fat. It compares weight versus height. Keeping in mind that muscle weighs more than fat, it is entirely possible that you could have someone who is the epitome of health and have a high BMI because they have a lot of muscle.
Also, one of the basic things that science teaches us is that the correlation between to things and a relationship between them are two entirely different things.
Additionally, measuring IQ has never been an exact science. There has been debate regarding the accuracy of IQ tests since thier inception, and it's not likely to be a debate that is going to be resolved soon. When measuring IQ lots of things come into play, such as the person's cultural background, or their ability to take tests (while some people are smart, they sometimes freeze up during tests... it's called "test anxiety").
So, in conclusion, we have two somewhat inexact sciences put together and some french scientist thinks that their might be a correlation between the two.
I think you overestimate the average intelligence of most police officers. With very few exceptions, they're really not that bright.
Then again, perhaps her husband is as big of an asshole as you are, in which case... I wouldn't blame her for running away.:) Perhaps she even murdered herself out of the agony of having to put up with an ass such as yourself.
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64 is young. ;) I just guess I hate the idea of Scaled Composites now belonging to one of the largest, most evil, expensive, good-ole-boy, overcharging, never invented anything really new companies.
It's like seeing Bill Gates pay an open source project to get the rights to the code. Depressing.
GJC
So, basically, what you're saying is that a new, fresh company sold out to and older behemoth. Does this mean the end of new, fresh ideas from Burt Rutan?
GJC
What most people forget is that Free Software is a balance between the rights of the creator and the user. Anything that disturbs that balance needs to be dealt with. Both patents and DRM represent things that disturb the rights of the users in favor of the creators.
RMS is not trying to force his personal beliefs on people. You don't have to change to the GPLv3, no one does. Linus, on the other hand, is coming out and engaging in name calling. I've seen more and more of this from Linus over the past few years. I don't see him as any better than RMS, in fact, I see him as worse. To me he seems like the kind of person who, if you don't agree with him, he'll freely and publically call you names. That doesn't seem to me to be the approach of an intelligent or reasonable person. It seems to be to be the approach of someone who's ego has gotten a little too big for his own good. Not one of the reasons Linus has yet given for his dislike of the GPLv3 has made a great deal of sense from my point of view. Linus seems unable or, possibly, unwilling to engage in a debate about this pertaining to the facts of the matter. Instead he would rather distract people from the real issues by calling RMS a fanatic and calling anyone that adopts the GPLv3 hippocrites.
I don't live my life to please others. My project and many others are in the process of adopting the GPLv3. If Linus thinks I'm a hippocrite or that others are, because of it... then so be it. I think his rationale is completely wrong.
He states that the GPLv3 will make it difficult for business' to use GPL'd software. This is, in fact, correct. The GPLv3 will make it more difficult for companies to restrict the rights of their users (people like you and me). The GPL was meant to protect against this type of thing. As the world evolved, the GPLv2 became inadequate due to the simple fact that many of the technologies and problems which exist now did not exist when it was drafted. It therefore, has legal holes it in nowadays that one could drive a truck through. The GPLv3 was meant to address the shortcomings and, in some cases, the lack of clarity of the GPLv2. It protects the users better and is clearer on what is and is not distribution.
If Linus wants to play name calling games, that's just fine. If, however, he wants to actually discuss the facts, he and the rest of his sycophantic followers should engage the FSF in a debate.. or, at least, they should have been more of a part of the drafting of the GPLv3 than they were... certainly... if you don't put your 2 cents into something, especially when you're invited to do so (GPLv3 comments were open to the public and, indeed, Eben Moglen publically asked the Linux contributors to participate)... then, in my opinion, you have no cause to complain when the process is finish.
Linus and his ilk had their chance to say something and they remained silent. Why should they be listened to now?
Sincerely, GJC
So is Linus... also, simply because RMS is a fanatic, that doesn't make him wrong. ;)
GJC
Linus gets a big boost from calling RMS a fanatic... quite frankly I'm not sure if he does it because he actually believes it or because fomenting dissent within the community makes him more popular.
Honestly, I find the infighting between RMS and Linus to be boring and beneath notice. If Linus wants to continue to expose the Linux kernel to the legal risks caused by the flaws in GPLv2, then that is entirely up to him. I, however, am free to switch to another open source OS, like the upcoming Open Solaris or, indeed, help with one which will be GPLv3, namely... GNU-Hurd.
Linus needs to seriously get a grip and stop believing his own press.
GJC
The GPL is a balance between the freedom of the people who make/distribute software and those who use it. The GPLv3 attempts to address certain inequities that have arisen over the past few years which have upset this balance. These inequities threaten our freedom as users of the software (things like DRM) and also threaten to allow big companies to marginalize Linux and other GPL'd software (things like the Novell-MS, Linspire-MS deals... etc).
You can rest assured that RMS and the FSF has taken these into account when considering the changes for GPLv3. Linus' focus seems to be very pro-business. He seems to believe that whatever is good for businesses using Linux is good for Linux. In doing so he either doesn't care or, indeed, isn't aware of these issues. They are a threat to the future efficacy of Linux in the marketplace.
I, personally, believe that the GPLv3 is a step in the right direction and that, if Linus wants to preserve Linux for the future, then he'll move the kernel to it.
Sincerely, GJC
No one uses that either. :) D'oh!
GJC
Not really. The problem is that the Novell patent license guarantees that only people who are SuSE customers cannot be sued. According to the GPL, you must grant any patent rights to ALL users, not to a specific subset.
In short, this has nothing to do with the fact that they made a deal with Microsoft and it has everything to do with the legal effect of the deal.
GJC
This would be more the case, yes, thanks. :)
GJC
There is a tool in the GNUstep toolchain known as pbxbuild which works well for this purpose. It's currently experimental, but it is making progress.
GJC
GNUstep implements many parts of Cocoa. It's not *simply* an implementation of OPENSTEP. It's also an implementation most of the Cocoa additions to OPENSTEP as well. GNUstep is a cross platform API first and foremost.
GJC
People are probably moving from SuSE to Redhat in reaction to the MS-Novell agreement.
GJC
Wow... not to engage in Ad Hominem, but I don't know anyone who holds that opinion of IB. IB has been hailed by many people as the best GUI builder around.
That said, his POV is not exactly neutral.
Then again... neither is mine... I am the maintainer of Gorm (the IB equivalent for GNUstep).
GJC
Who should file? Isn't it up to MS to file against companies and individuals using Linux before any legal resolution can be reached?
GJC
It's too bad, SuSE was a good distro. I hope that Novell understands that they are driving people away from it by doing this.
I'm considering:
1) Debian
2) Ubuntu
3) Roll my own Linux Distro.
Later, GJC
Yeah, and you can become a particle physicist in your spare time too.
G.
Wrong.
Like any science, it can be applied or theoretical.
G.
Sounds like SGI has been taking a page out of SCO's book. Next thing you know they'll be spreading false claims about how parts of IRIX were illegally contributed to Linux or some crap like another three letter "S" company did.
Later, GJC
The GPL v3 doesn't need to be used by anyone who doesn't want to use it. The FSF could come out with GPL v3 and everyone could simply go about thier business and continue to use v2, if they want to.
The fact is, however, that v3 clarifies many things that have been concerns in v2, since v2 is somewhat old and doesn't adequately address such issues as patents and DRM.
Also, Linus and crew are making a huge deal about making lots and lots of noise when Eben Moglen has asked them to PLEASE be a part of the process instead of simply complaining.
GJC
Taking two innacurate measures and finding a correlation, does not imply causation.
Think what you like... it's poor science.
GJC
BMI is an inaccurate measure of body fat. It compares weight versus height. Keeping in mind that muscle weighs more than fat, it is entirely possible that you could have someone who is the epitome of health and have a high BMI because they have a lot of muscle.
Also, one of the basic things that science teaches us is that the correlation between to things and a relationship between them are two entirely different things.
Additionally, measuring IQ has never been an exact science. There has been debate regarding the accuracy of IQ tests since thier inception, and it's not likely to be a debate that is going to be resolved soon. When measuring IQ lots of things come into play, such as the person's cultural background, or their ability to take tests (while some people are smart, they sometimes freeze up during tests... it's called "test anxiety").
So, in conclusion, we have two somewhat inexact sciences put together and some french scientist thinks that their might be a correlation between the two.
GJC
Ridiculous.
ReiserFS is an excellent filesystem. It's had it's problems, but which FS hasn't?
Someone will pick up development of it.
GJC
Yeah, sure... call me when that happens.
GJC
Yes, we'll still need data centers. Data centers will always be necessary because people will always want to store more and more data.
GJC
I think you overestimate the average intelligence of most police officers. With very few exceptions, they're really not that bright.
:) Perhaps she even murdered herself out of the agony of having to put up with an ass such as yourself.
Then again, perhaps her husband is as big of an asshole as you are, in which case... I wouldn't blame her for running away.
G.