1) Everytime I look at Cowen it is about on price parity with Apple (80GB $250.00 for iPod right now, in line with USED X5 on ebay) 2) How can you scroll through 400 albums quickly with the joystick (this is my largest concern with non-ipods) 3) How about 5000 songs 4) Last I looked deeply at iAudios you could only browse by directory structure, not database (is that still true?)
I have ripped my collection to.flac (i am not an aidiophile, but don't want to multiply lossy if I need to convert it again, and HD space is cheap).
I am considering 1) Converting to MP3 and getting an iPod 2) iPod + Rockbox 3) Giving up on the concept of all my music in my pocket and getting a meizu 4 or 8 GB model
If iAudio uses a database that allows browsing by album or artist I will reconsider them, but still on pricing and flipping through thousands of songs I am guessing I am uninterested in the joystick. The flash based iPods are even getting reasonable in price.
What would you recomend as a replacement for the iPod?
I am thinking HD based players?
The iPod looks fairly priced with a great interface (the touch round scroller appears to me to be unmatched, except by cheap looking round plastic scroll disks).
The price is reasonable too.
I will probably get modded offtopic, but I am shopping for an MP3 player and would like to know.
It's really closer to a prisoners dilemma (hawk dove?) where optimizing for google is great if your the only one who does it, but if everyone does it it leads to a lot of ugly sites.
Also, google encouraged linking to there site buy having little search boxes (providing a useful service) and getting in the media. These are things that should increase page rank.
Considering if someone farts and it sound like an idea for a new "revolutionary" search engine, it will get in the media. I would propose what google would need is a PR department.
I have a fully bloated Ubuntu 7.04 install with extra stuff running (hellanzb, amorakk, 2 firefox windows with 6+ tabs each, flash plugin, open office and more). I am using 550MB of memory. Still a ton of breathing room on your (or my) 1GB.
In fact looking at mem usage I have: soffice 78MB Firefox 75MB Compiz.real 30MB (first so called bloat) (let's not forget that whatever XFCE uses has some memory footprint too) Deskbar-applet 29MB (I am guessing most of that is the search feature that I don't use, bloat) Amorakapp 27MB (bloat, but I like it) nautilus 23MB (probably really bloated vs mc for examle, but I get previews, and built in search box, shortcuts to places I like and can easily add) Sound-juicer (not bloated I am guessing) gnome-panel 13MB (bloat) hellanzb 12MB (worth so much more space, awesomest daemon I installed) everything else is less than 5MB each)
So the "bloat" is 122MB vs the two actual apps I am running being 150MB Of couse I prefer abiword and gnumeric to open office, but some things need the OO.o. The only thing I think is wasting MB is the deskbar and amorak (I want only the run feature, and maybe lauch web search or url from deskbar, and does a music player (even a full featured one) need so much?
I will admit I find Gentoo compelling, because it always sounds like the bleeding edge is available in portage (apperently not too appealing to you), but I am sitting back with Ubuntu, because between official repositories, un-official repositories, and getdeb I have access to a whole lot, and it is easy easy easy. even if we assume that your custom compile runs everything else with 15% less usage, the bloat is insignifigant in the scheme of things (two simple apps outdoing it). In exchange I get no window redraw when switching windows (not eye-candy, just nice), expose style window switching, "CD flip"? style task switching and a lot of worthless, but fun to watch eye-candy. Along with gnome, which I have hated for years, but now choose over KDE.
Transparency can be use full too, and Desktop Wall plus Expo is nice too,
ATA 133 (I will assume this, due to the "aging hd mentioned) is only 17MB/sec for comparison's sake. I believe (could be wrong) that AGP uploads at PCI speeds and downloads at up to 8xPCI. This would put it way past a disk in speed, and the slowdown is somewhere else.
Why must Windows and Linux both be bundled? can't I be offered to pay for Windows when I order and not get Linux? Shouldn't Plan9 be bundled too? What about Amiga?
And why should Linux be free? Companies put lots of money into Linux, and often times they choose to charge for it. And how about the cost of supporting a bunch of total novices trying to save a few bucks? People are going to call and report their computer as broken because such and such does not run, and they will at the very least have to explain how they don't offer any support.
I found reading the end of the article very frustrating and poorly thought out (like this post)
Unless people consistently mount/home as noexec, malware will be a problem for Linux or OSX as soon as the get market share (based on Firefox I would say 10-20 percent is the magic number).
Once something gets into a users.rc files or whatnot, it is plenty useful as a mail relay, or a pop-up maker.
Virii in the traditional sense probably won't be as bad, but do they even exist anymore?
It is also worth noting that the greatest advancements are likely to come in non-guided settings. The people that self taught themselves assembly on an AppleII at age 12 (I am sure there are plenty CS types that started there) would likely not get the oppurtunity taking advanced highschool science classes.
Another example I read about is a group of children at a boarding school that succesfully set-up a snack business that netted $30k/year. They learned more about small business than they would have in any amount of education, but advanced pace education would have not given them the time. There are always things on the horizon that high schools and even undergraduate courses are not ready to teach, but can be learned by someone bright with free time, even at an exceptionally young age.
Of course if you are working on a phd it changes things a little, because you then have more freedom and access to the truly cutting edge that HS and Undergrad may not give you. But the vast majority of people are not going to be that much accelerated, and end up going to college a year or 2 early, and with a few credits to start, the end point is still generally the same for most people though. It's not like the average genius is going to go so much further because they have a 2 year head start on college, especially if compared to someone that enters knowing the basics of OS design (from studying the Linux kernel in their free time).
People need to be able to have free time when they are not supporting themself (at least through HS) so that they can explore things and really learn.
On November 12th there will bve a 2 week period of selling to the public for $400.00 each.
This covers 2 laptops (approx $180 before the half point interest rate cut) and a little extra for small scale distribution. I imagine S&H will be added to help the distribution too.
Your directions require: 1) package is in the repository 2) leave out simple steps I listed
Stuff in the repository is real easy to in Ubuntu. It has add/remove programs like Windows, but you can actually add pretty much whatever program you want.
For stuff not native to the distribution I chose to include everything not in the package manager for my install directions. If Linux ever gets wide commercial support for desktop apps I don't think the situation will be as good though (see SimCity 2000 problems, which I assume pacman does not include).
For this reason I actually don't think Linux will ever be a great games platform, the oldies but goodies will be hard to install, even when not too old.
What the person posing the hypothetical was asking is a hard thing to compare, because pretty much everything in Linux is native to the distribution or unavailable. The few instanced I am familiar with that arn't are: 1) Loki games (some other company too), with Loki getting it to run on the new glibc at the time (about 5 years ago? moving to 2.6 maybe?) was a chore. 2)Nvidia driver, real easy, if you are wiling to type. the typical user may be afraid to CTR+ALT+F1, killall gdm, cd to correct directory, sudo sh NVIDIA-Installer "cd" is a trickey command to people who are unfamiliar with the command line, even browsing through folders is hard for a lot of people. I suppose an install CD could be setup to run gtk-sudo or whatever it is, and already have executable set, it a double click install would work (not for graphics drivers though). 3)Wolfenstewein:ET, installs great, sound is OSS, so must do some wierd voodoo to make it work (I hit up a couple times, so I don't recall what it is at work), this is better than the Loki games problems, but still there. 4)Opera Browser, download.deb and double click, enter password. Opera packages at least 3 files (RPM, TAR.GZ, DEB, maybe many more). 5) f-prot, run a shell script and it's done.
I have found that even though people claim it is so hard to get things to install consistently, everything that installs as a shell script has worked for me (except glibc problem, and now Wolf:ET). I use fairly mainstream distros though (Redhat -> SUSE -> Debian -> Mandrake -> Ubuntu with slackware in parallel on a server at work) which may help.
Windows: 1) right click file and run as 2) enter administrator info 3) click next a lot
Linux: 1) Find.deb of file 2) double click file 3) enter password or (and this is harder than Windows, and often doesn't work with software older than a year or 2) 1) open terminal (or in KDE go to folder in konquerer) 2) cd to folder with installer (skip in KDE) 3) type sudo sh installer (or su -c sh installer) 4) enter password (or root password) The problem with ituation 2 is that Linux compatibility is a quickly moving target, and companies releasing proprietary software give up or go out of business.
When Loki went out of business SimCity 2000 was dificult to install, getting sound on Wolfenstein:ET is not automatic. But stuff that is regularly updated like the Nvidia drivers is often very easy to install, and if there is no fear of the command line easier to install than Windows drivers.
Explaining things like 'cd' to people who are afraid to type things into there computer, or even those who are not can be very difficult.
I am willing to bet if the summary was a lie, we would already know it because someone Finnish would correct things.
Even though I do not read Finnish, at this point I am relatively assured that the facts as stated (in the summary) are correct, and nothing glaring was omitted.
But we won't even pay for those people not living in their own shit for the days after the disaster, we're not going to pay to get them precious organs.
Specifically: Organs, we don't have enough anyway, without paying out the ass to rush them in (of course all th young people killed by a disaster may make it worth rushing them out?)
Antivenin, Should be available locally enough already (It's not like we are going to have tons of snakes attack somewhere).
Blood, We don't have enough in general, it is not a transportation constrained resource (like organs)
Food, Available fairly locally in any case where the victims are worth spending money on (as judged by those in charge, not me)
Medicines, Again, what are we going to do with medicine a few hours earlier? in Katrina we couldn't get it to people, and didn't have enough of the right stuff.
Saving people is not why infrastructure gets built, and certainly not to save people across the globe. Sometimes we are not too big of asshats and use existing infrastructure to save others though.
I know your trying to prove a point with a bad analogy, but it is really bad.
Energy to get information down a gable is not much at all. You are also using an example of information transport (audio) and trying to apply it to physical object transport. The GP's point was that we can transport massive amounts of information in the 3 hours it takes to fly a spaceship across the globe (in said example).
Also since audio messages are information they are amortized with the millions of web pages sent down cables.
An example of things not needing to ship quickly follows:
After 911, MBNA wanted American flags with "God Bless America" to greet all of their workers world wide on the way into the office, this was decided later on in the day on September 11th. We could either print everything locally and ship it out, or get vendors in other parts of the world to print them too. In the past getting people in Dublin to print them would have required shipping negatives (30 years ago) or disks (20? years ago) or Cds (10 - 20 years ago (maybe 15 to 20?). We were able to send the file in an hour and get it produced locally on identical equipment, where previously we would have paid FedEx out the ass (and been delayed however many days for airplane to fly again). Fast physical delivery is far less important than it used to be.
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So if I offer a book for sale, and no one ever buys it, but you start start selling bootlegs does that mean there is no damages?
Of course the court may determine it as such, but I doubt it.
I would calculate the damages for illegal use of my code in a commercial product as being a percentage of the retail dollars brought in. I would hire an expert to say (independently decide) that 20% (or whatever) of the value of the product comes from the code, and it is reasonable to assume that 50% of retail price is the cost. So damages would be 10% of the total money spent on the product by consumers (since it would be reasonable to expect that's what would be spent on buying the software).
Another solution would be to say we are 20% responsiblke for the product, and therefore want 20% of the profit, but that sounds like a bad idea for some company that is probably losing money.
But there are ways to assess damages that could probably hold up, even if something has never been sold (see patent trolls)
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1) Everytime I look at Cowen it is about on price parity with Apple (80GB $250.00 for iPod right now, in line with USED X5 on ebay)
.flac (i am not an aidiophile, but don't want to multiply lossy if I need to convert it again, and HD space is cheap).
2) How can you scroll through 400 albums quickly with the joystick (this is my largest concern with non-ipods)
3) How about 5000 songs
4) Last I looked deeply at iAudios you could only browse by directory structure, not database (is that still true?)
I have ripped my collection to
I am considering
1) Converting to MP3 and getting an iPod
2) iPod + Rockbox
3) Giving up on the concept of all my music in my pocket and getting a meizu 4 or 8 GB model
If iAudio uses a database that allows browsing by album or artist I will reconsider them, but still on pricing and flipping through thousands of songs I am guessing I am uninterested in the joystick. The flash based iPods are even getting reasonable in price.
What would you recomend as a replacement for the iPod?
I am thinking HD based players?
The iPod looks fairly priced with a great interface (the touch round scroller appears to me to be unmatched, except by cheap looking round plastic scroll disks).
The price is reasonable too.
I will probably get modded offtopic, but I am shopping for an MP3 player and would like to know.
It's really closer to a prisoners dilemma (hawk dove?) where optimizing for google is great if your the only one who does it, but if everyone does it it leads to a lot of ugly sites.
Also, google encouraged linking to there site buy having little search boxes (providing a useful service) and getting in the media. These are things that should increase page rank.
Considering if someone farts and it sound like an idea for a new "revolutionary" search engine, it will get in the media. I would propose what google would need is a PR department.
Please don't forget http://www.getdeb.net/
There is a lot of stuff I download from there, games, DVD burning software, up to date scribus, come to mind.
I pirated SUSE install media when they didn't allow it.
It even had some commercial software on it.
I don't know what your point is.
I have a fully bloated Ubuntu 7.04 install with extra stuff running (hellanzb, amorakk, 2 firefox windows with 6+ tabs each, flash plugin, open office and more). I am using 550MB of memory. Still a ton of breathing room on your (or my) 1GB.
In fact looking at mem usage I have:
soffice 78MB
Firefox 75MB
Compiz.real 30MB (first so called bloat) (let's not forget that whatever XFCE uses has some memory footprint too)
Deskbar-applet 29MB (I am guessing most of that is the search feature that I don't use, bloat)
Amorakapp 27MB (bloat, but I like it)
nautilus 23MB (probably really bloated vs mc for examle, but I get previews, and built in search box, shortcuts to places I like and can easily add)
Sound-juicer (not bloated I am guessing)
gnome-panel 13MB (bloat)
hellanzb 12MB (worth so much more space, awesomest daemon I installed)
everything else is less than 5MB each)
So the "bloat" is 122MB vs the two actual apps I am running being 150MB
Of couse I prefer abiword and gnumeric to open office, but some things need the OO.o. The only thing I think is wasting MB is the deskbar and amorak (I want only the run feature, and maybe lauch web search or url from deskbar, and does a music player (even a full featured one) need so much?
I will admit I find Gentoo compelling, because it always sounds like the bleeding edge is available in portage (apperently not too appealing to you), but I am sitting back with Ubuntu, because between official repositories, un-official repositories, and getdeb I have access to a whole lot, and it is easy easy easy.
even if we assume that your custom compile runs everything else with 15% less usage, the bloat is insignifigant in the scheme of things (two simple apps outdoing it). In exchange I get no window redraw when switching windows (not eye-candy, just nice), expose style window switching, "CD flip"? style task switching and a lot of worthless, but fun to watch eye-candy. Along with gnome, which I have hated for years, but now choose over KDE.
Transparency can be use full too, and Desktop Wall plus Expo is nice too,
Use your own domain and pay $5.00/month
I hope one controls more traditionally and uses the nunchuck, and the other just a Wii-mote.
This would allow for 4 way party playing with a more affordable cost for entry, but more what we expect for fans.
Actually they got paid a lot of money.
They only pay money if MS generates them new revenue.
It is funny how it was a good enough tool for him though.
Time and again he uses the term 'M' rated game.
Thanks for correcting my lies.
100MB a second is still pretty damned fast.
ATA 133 (I will assume this, due to the "aging hd mentioned) is only 17MB/sec for comparison's sake. I believe (could be wrong) that AGP uploads at PCI speeds and downloads at up to 8xPCI. This would put it way past a disk in speed, and the slowdown is somewhere else.
I just read the article and I feel dumber.
Why must Windows and Linux both be bundled? can't I be offered to pay for Windows when I order and not get Linux? Shouldn't Plan9 be bundled too? What about Amiga?
And why should Linux be free? Companies put lots of money into Linux, and often times they choose to charge for it. And how about the cost of supporting a bunch of total novices trying to save a few bucks? People are going to call and report their computer as broken because such and such does not run, and they will at the very least have to explain how they don't offer any support.
I found reading the end of the article very frustrating and poorly thought out (like this post)
That doesn't prevent malware in the absence of /home being mounted noexec.
I doubt people are going to want to do that though. People like to run random stuff, that is why computers get infected so easily.
Unless people consistently mount /home as noexec, malware will be a problem for Linux or OSX as soon as the get market share (based on Firefox I would say 10-20 percent is the magic number).
.rc files or whatnot, it is plenty useful as a mail relay, or a pop-up maker.
Once something gets into a users
Virii in the traditional sense probably won't be as bad, but do they even exist anymore?
WarcraftI (II?) was similar.
The walls were neutral so AI would not touch them. This lead to a bunch of units lining up and doing nothing.
It is also worth noting that the greatest advancements are likely to come in non-guided settings. The people that self taught themselves assembly on an AppleII at age 12 (I am sure there are plenty CS types that started there) would likely not get the oppurtunity taking advanced highschool science classes.
Another example I read about is a group of children at a boarding school that succesfully set-up a snack business that netted $30k/year. They learned more about small business than they would have in any amount of education, but advanced pace education would have not given them the time. There are always things on the horizon that high schools and even undergraduate courses are not ready to teach, but can be learned by someone bright with free time, even at an exceptionally young age.
Of course if you are working on a phd it changes things a little, because you then have more freedom and access to the truly cutting edge that HS and Undergrad may not give you. But the vast majority of people are not going to be that much accelerated, and end up going to college a year or 2 early, and with a few credits to start, the end point is still generally the same for most people though. It's not like the average genius is going to go so much further because they have a 2 year head start on college, especially if compared to someone that enters knowing the basics of OS design (from studying the Linux kernel in their free time).
People need to be able to have free time when they are not supporting themself (at least through HS) so that they can explore things and really learn.
On November 12th there will bve a 2 week period of selling to the public for $400.00 each.
This covers 2 laptops (approx $180 before the half point interest rate cut) and a little extra for small scale distribution. I imagine S&H will be added to help the distribution too.
Your directions require:
.deb and double click, enter password. Opera packages at least 3 files (RPM, TAR.GZ, DEB, maybe many more).
1) package is in the repository
2) leave out simple steps I listed
Stuff in the repository is real easy to in Ubuntu.
It has add/remove programs like Windows, but you can actually add pretty much whatever program you want.
For stuff not native to the distribution I chose to include everything not in the package manager for my install directions. If Linux ever gets wide commercial support for desktop apps I don't think the situation will be as good though (see SimCity 2000 problems, which I assume pacman does not include).
For this reason I actually don't think Linux will ever be a great games platform, the oldies but goodies will be hard to install, even when not too old.
What the person posing the hypothetical was asking is a hard thing to compare, because pretty much everything in Linux is native to the distribution or unavailable. The few instanced I am familiar with that arn't are:
1) Loki games (some other company too), with Loki getting it to run on the new glibc at the time (about 5 years ago? moving to 2.6 maybe?) was a chore.
2)Nvidia driver, real easy, if you are wiling to type. the typical user may be afraid to CTR+ALT+F1, killall gdm, cd to correct directory, sudo sh NVIDIA-Installer
"cd" is a trickey command to people who are unfamiliar with the command line, even browsing through folders is hard for a lot of people. I suppose an install CD could be setup to run gtk-sudo or whatever it is, and already have executable set, it a double click install would work (not for graphics drivers though).
3)Wolfenstewein:ET, installs great, sound is OSS, so must do some wierd voodoo to make it work (I hit up a couple times, so I don't recall what it is at work), this is better than the Loki games problems, but still there.
4)Opera Browser, download
5) f-prot, run a shell script and it's done.
I have found that even though people claim it is so hard to get things to install consistently, everything that installs as a shell script has worked for me (except glibc problem, and now Wolf:ET). I use fairly mainstream distros though (Redhat -> SUSE -> Debian -> Mandrake -> Ubuntu with slackware in parallel on a server at work) which may help.
Windows:
.deb of file
1) right click file and run as
2) enter administrator info
3) click next a lot
Linux:
1) Find
2) double click file
3) enter password
or (and this is harder than Windows, and often doesn't work with software older than a year or 2)
1) open terminal (or in KDE go to folder in konquerer)
2) cd to folder with installer (skip in KDE)
3) type sudo sh installer (or su -c sh installer)
4) enter password (or root password)
The problem with ituation 2 is that Linux compatibility is a quickly moving target, and companies releasing proprietary software give up or go out of business.
When Loki went out of business SimCity 2000 was dificult to install, getting sound on Wolfenstein:ET is not automatic. But stuff that is regularly updated like the Nvidia drivers is often very easy to install, and if there is no fear of the command line easier to install than Windows drivers.
Explaining things like 'cd' to people who are afraid to type things into there computer, or even those who are not can be very difficult.
I am willing to bet if the summary was a lie, we would already know it because someone Finnish would correct things.
Even though I do not read Finnish, at this point I am relatively assured that the facts as stated (in the summary) are correct, and nothing glaring was omitted.
I hate to break it to you,
But we won't even pay for those people not living in their own shit for the days after the disaster, we're not going to pay to get them precious organs.
Specifically:
Organs, we don't have enough anyway, without paying out the ass to rush them in (of course all th young people killed by a disaster may make it worth rushing them out?)
Antivenin, Should be available locally enough already (It's not like we are going to have tons of snakes attack somewhere).
Blood, We don't have enough in general, it is not a transportation constrained resource (like organs)
Food, Available fairly locally in any case where the victims are worth spending money on (as judged by those in charge, not me)
Medicines, Again, what are we going to do with medicine a few hours earlier? in Katrina we couldn't get it to people, and didn't have enough of the right stuff.
Saving people is not why infrastructure gets built, and certainly not to save people across the globe. Sometimes we are not too big of asshats and use existing infrastructure to save others though.
Actually it was a piece of paper with a photo of a red, white, and blue piece of fabric.
It was interesting to me that the product being produced in Dublin was delayed because they had a day of silence when we printed stupid posters.
I know your trying to prove a point with a bad analogy, but it is really bad.
Energy to get information down a gable is not much at all. You are also using an example of information transport (audio) and trying to apply it to physical object transport. The GP's point was that we can transport massive amounts of information in the 3 hours it takes to fly a spaceship across the globe (in said example).
Also since audio messages are information they are amortized with the millions of web pages sent down cables.
An example of things not needing to ship quickly follows:
After 911, MBNA wanted American flags with "God Bless America" to greet all of their workers world wide on the way into the office, this was decided later on in the day on September 11th. We could either print everything locally and ship it out, or get vendors in other parts of the world to print them too. In the past getting people in Dublin to print them would have required shipping negatives (30 years ago) or disks (20? years ago) or Cds (10 - 20 years ago (maybe 15 to 20?). We were able to send the file in an hour and get it produced locally on identical equipment, where previously we would have paid FedEx out the ass (and been delayed however many days for airplane to fly again). Fast physical delivery is far less important than it used to be.
So if I offer a book for sale, and no one ever buys it, but you start start selling bootlegs does that mean there is no damages?
Of course the court may determine it as such, but I doubt it.
I would calculate the damages for illegal use of my code in a commercial product as being a percentage of the retail dollars brought in. I would hire an expert to say (independently decide) that 20% (or whatever) of the value of the product comes from the code, and it is reasonable to assume that 50% of retail price is the cost. So damages would be 10% of the total money spent on the product by consumers (since it would be reasonable to expect that's what would be spent on buying the software).
Another solution would be to say we are 20% responsiblke for the product, and therefore want 20% of the profit, but that sounds like a bad idea for some company that is probably losing money.
But there are ways to assess damages that could probably hold up, even if something has never been sold (see patent trolls)