I disagree for a simple reason. If I fall a victim to a targeted attack, security updates will be meaningless. They will use zero day and that's it.
The first thing they taught me in university on IT security course was that security is not a product, but a process. If I were important enough to be a target of targeted attacks, I'd take much more brutal lockdown measures. I would for example sandbox everything, run a hardware firewall in addition to NAT, use a transparent proxy that would monitor traffic for potential infections and so on.
But these measures are costly, and a massive overkill for my threat level. It would be like securing a single apartment with tanks, attack helicopters and AAA fully staffed with soldiers instead of just having a lock on the door.
Security is a process, and as such should be appropriately tailored to counter threats that will be faced - not threats that won't. Which is why I can do what I did and go without infections essentially forever. While a big fortune500 company would have to secure its hardware in much, much more brutal fashion. But that's because their threat level is much higher than mine.
1. You have to be really dense to call it something other than slower. I've had it running on the same machine with 4GB of RAM and E8800. Even when RAM was clearly sufficient, machine was noticeably slower under fresh 7 install than under old XP one. OS overhead is clearly much greater both in terms of RAM and CPU. That means OS is in fact slower. 3. Impossible to turn off. Hard coded part of OS. Unfortunately. 4. Can be turned off, yes. Will it make you to jump through hoops to do it? Yes. Will it be on by default and one of the biggest problems I hit when coming to fix someone else's computer? Yes. Hence, problem.
1. You do not understand the concept of tree-based menu. Google it. 2. It's a lot slower and a massive memory hog. No way around that. Even games have to print that you need more RAM for it, and machines that run tasks on XP fine crawl under 7. Basically you need a significantly more powerful PC to get as much performance out of 7 as you could get out of XP. 3. It's a whole lot worse. There's a reason why web-based interfaces are essentially always worse than native interfaces. Microsoft sacrificed usability for familiarity of next generation that knows nothing but links. 4. UAC is generally an awful thing, that is only desired because many people do not know how to use computers all that well and need to be protected from themselves. To those of us computer-literate enough not to need a padded room it's a nuisance at best and massively harmful system at worst.
1. DX11 features have NOTHING to do with new driver model. Essentially all of them have been implemented on openGL on XP. "But we need this because of WDDM update" is the sales pitch. If you actually are big enough of a sucker to swallow this pitch at face value, surely you would like to buy some cheap land on the moon? In reality, it would have been trivial to implement DX11 without WDDM support on XP. But MS knew that openGL was a mess (which they helpfully pulled it into) and wasn't enough of a competitor so they could brute force their way riding on their de facto monopoly. 3. Some people blindly hating because people don't like people pointing out obvious flaws in their favorite company's latest product is nothing new.
I suppose it was fine in the "it's not longer a gangrenous limb, it's just crippled after the operation and hurts like hell, but it's not longer life threatening" kind of way.
It was significantly worse on many fronts and better on some others.
Minuses: 1. Abortion of a start menu (luckily they kept the old one in the system files for most part so it could be restored with applications like classic start menu). 2. Slow and a huge memory hog, requiring at least 1GB of extra RAM for overhead than XP. Especially noticeable in games where official system requirements for 7 where almost always "XP requirements + 1GB RAM". 3. New click-based rather than old icon based system menus. It's like jury-rigging web interface into desktop with all its problems. 4. UAC being utterly retarded in spite of all the fixes. Luckily it's easily turned off or at least reconfigured to have some sanity.
Pluses: 1. DX11. Jury rigged to not support XP to sell the OS. It worked. 2. Functional 64-bit OS. 3. Improved search functionality. The only significant improvement in OS over XP in terms of usability. Some argue it replaced tree style start menu with some success. Considering the existence and wide usage of applications like classic start menu, I'd argue that it didn't.
Then you have some things that are pretty much unknown, like the supposed under hood improvements (it's pretty scary to think that 7 requires a boatload more ram and noticeably better CPU to run as well as XP even with all the supposed improvements, just how slow would it be without them?) Some also like the Aero look, though that was axed in 8.
The reason why vista was surrounded by "pure fucking unadulterated bullshit" was because that operating system was "pure fucking unadulterated bullshit" which kept leaking into surroundings.
The point is that to most businesses IP is an expense. A harmful existence. Your example of bakery is a good one.
Such companies are unlikely to be invested in the concept. It wouldn't be surprising if they were opposed to it in fact, as it increases their cost of doing business.
It's always fun to hear that someone has an impotent fit of hysteria after running out of arguments. It also explains the whole "snappier" thing - as it does take quite an active delusion/imagination to draw such positive conclusions about 8.
Microsoft could go into negative in its windows division and do fine. Office is the main money maker anyway, and it's still going to get a cut off almost every PC sold even if it stopped developing windows tomorrow.
OEMs on the other hand sell hardware. And hardware sits on the shelves, while customers ask "can I get this with 7? Only 8? Yeah, I'll stick to my old machine after all, thanks".
Calling that "crying", well, there is a special place in hell for people like you.
There is a single continous Chinese (specifically Han) culture however. Parents argument was that "chinese are new to diplomacy". As far as we are concerned, current chinese culture practiced diplomacy about ten times longer than white colonists lived on American continent.
Why you are so exceptionally clueless is beyond me. Automotive ICE efficiency is several TIMES worse than that of a major power plant burner.
As a result, how electricity is generated is largely irrelevant for the subject. It will still be always better than automotive ICE, even if it's a coal plant from the fifties.
It's a simply fact of both efficiency of using steam turbines vs pistons/wankel and economy of size.
I'm sorry, are you someone who has any kind of power to change microsoft's stupidity?
No?
Then why on earth would Samsung, HP, Toshiba, Acer and so on care enough about you or your opinion on the subject?
P.S. They have been complaining to about anyone in the press who has been listening though. Because unlike you, these people actually have the push to do something about it. A basic google search will result in a boatload of hits on the subject.
P.P.S. At least during vista, alternatives have been pretty crappy. Right now, alternatives are plentiful and PC sales show it. We're looking at a nosedive in PC sales for everyone right now. Far worse than ever before.
Tell that to OEMs making those PCs. I'm sure they're interested to hear the grand olden stories of the good old days.
Unfortunately reality is that if you ask anyone working in today's shop what's the single most important reason people walk out of their shop without purchase, it's their answer "no" to the question "can I get this with windows 7?"
That is the sad reality. And excessive brown nosing isn't going to make it better - it's going to make it worse because the problem will not be fixed for a longer period of time.
Indeed. Except that right now, even OEMs are screaming down your employer's/idol's ear to make a desktop OS for desktop again.
That and they are shifting towards making things other than PCs. Sadly. I guess we'll see what gives in first, desktop PC market or microsoft bosses egoes. As I quite like desktop PCs, I'm hoping is the latter.
You know, there was a really good write up a while ago on al-jazeera about free trade and democracy. Specifically how to free trade, democracy is a despot, and despotic ruler is a good one. Because corporatism and fascism relies on pliable leaders willing to sell out their constituents, and democracy, when it works, produces leaders that do not.
The so called "bolivarian socialist places" such as Venezuela are a great example. Even with the massive economic punishment unleashed upon them by both multinationals and US, leaders of which apparently felt massively insulted by the fact that people actually dared to resist it, they managed to stand on their own two feet and improve their lives dramatically.
So do tell me, how are they "the same"? Do they push people into poverty in the name of enriching multinationals in Venezuela? Because last I checked, they keep nationalizing key industries, and using the profits to subsidize things like cheap food for the poor.
If that is "more of the same", we do not live in the same world, for I live in reality and you apparently live in the fantasy world filled with stars, stripes and freedom.
Problem with WASTE is its hilarious overhead. We had a case where around min 2000s uni network's DC hub was shut down and users moved to WASTE. Suddenly all those intranet 100mbps-1gbps links that you never saw coming close to 10% usage were getting saturated as WASTE bounced every file transfer several times between nodes to obfuscate sender/receiver.
Because they are. One of the reasons for cyanogenmod's existence is to cut down on the "ad bombardment" through reduction of data collection and implementing privacy control and limited ad blocking.
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I disagree for a simple reason. If I fall a victim to a targeted attack, security updates will be meaningless. They will use zero day and that's it.
The first thing they taught me in university on IT security course was that security is not a product, but a process. If I were important enough to be a target of targeted attacks, I'd take much more brutal lockdown measures. I would for example sandbox everything, run a hardware firewall in addition to NAT, use a transparent proxy that would monitor traffic for potential infections and so on.
But these measures are costly, and a massive overkill for my threat level. It would be like securing a single apartment with tanks, attack helicopters and AAA fully staffed with soldiers instead of just having a lock on the door.
Security is a process, and as such should be appropriately tailored to counter threats that will be faced - not threats that won't. Which is why I can do what I did and go without infections essentially forever. While a big fortune500 company would have to secure its hardware in much, much more brutal fashion. But that's because their threat level is much higher than mine.
I'll give you even better one. They were working on IMPROVING national SECURITY!
1. You have to be really dense to call it something other than slower. I've had it running on the same machine with 4GB of RAM and E8800. Even when RAM was clearly sufficient, machine was noticeably slower under fresh 7 install than under old XP one. OS overhead is clearly much greater both in terms of RAM and CPU. That means OS is in fact slower.
3. Impossible to turn off. Hard coded part of OS. Unfortunately.
4. Can be turned off, yes. Will it make you to jump through hoops to do it? Yes. Will it be on by default and one of the biggest problems I hit when coming to fix someone else's computer? Yes.
Hence, problem.
1. You do not understand the concept of tree-based menu. Google it.
2. It's a lot slower and a massive memory hog. No way around that. Even games have to print that you need more RAM for it, and machines that run tasks on XP fine crawl under 7. Basically you need a significantly more powerful PC to get as much performance out of 7 as you could get out of XP.
3. It's a whole lot worse. There's a reason why web-based interfaces are essentially always worse than native interfaces. Microsoft sacrificed usability for familiarity of next generation that knows nothing but links.
4. UAC is generally an awful thing, that is only desired because many people do not know how to use computers all that well and need to be protected from themselves.
To those of us computer-literate enough not to need a padded room it's a nuisance at best and massively harmful system at worst.
1. DX11 features have NOTHING to do with new driver model. Essentially all of them have been implemented on openGL on XP. "But we need this because of WDDM update" is the sales pitch. If you actually are big enough of a sucker to swallow this pitch at face value, surely you would like to buy some cheap land on the moon?
In reality, it would have been trivial to implement DX11 without WDDM support on XP. But MS knew that openGL was a mess (which they helpfully pulled it into) and wasn't enough of a competitor so they could brute force their way riding on their de facto monopoly.
3. Some people blindly hating because people don't like people pointing out obvious flaws in their favorite company's latest product is nothing new.
I suppose it was fine in the "it's not longer a gangrenous limb, it's just crippled after the operation and hurts like hell, but it's not longer life threatening" kind of way.
It was significantly worse on many fronts and better on some others.
Minuses:
1. Abortion of a start menu (luckily they kept the old one in the system files for most part so it could be restored with applications like classic start menu).
2. Slow and a huge memory hog, requiring at least 1GB of extra RAM for overhead than XP. Especially noticeable in games where official system requirements for 7 where almost always "XP requirements + 1GB RAM".
3. New click-based rather than old icon based system menus. It's like jury-rigging web interface into desktop with all its problems.
4. UAC being utterly retarded in spite of all the fixes. Luckily it's easily turned off or at least reconfigured to have some sanity.
Pluses:
1. DX11. Jury rigged to not support XP to sell the OS. It worked.
2. Functional 64-bit OS.
3. Improved search functionality. The only significant improvement in OS over XP in terms of usability. Some argue it replaced tree style start menu with some success. Considering the existence and wide usage of applications like classic start menu, I'd argue that it didn't.
Then you have some things that are pretty much unknown, like the supposed under hood improvements (it's pretty scary to think that 7 requires a boatload more ram and noticeably better CPU to run as well as XP even with all the supposed improvements, just how slow would it be without them?) Some also like the Aero look, though that was axed in 8.
The reason why vista was surrounded by "pure fucking unadulterated bullshit" was because that operating system was "pure fucking unadulterated bullshit" which kept leaking into surroundings.
That's what maids are for!
He has to wait in line?
The point is that to most businesses IP is an expense. A harmful existence. Your example of bakery is a good one.
Such companies are unlikely to be invested in the concept. It wouldn't be surprising if they were opposed to it in fact, as it increases their cost of doing business.
It's always fun to hear that someone has an impotent fit of hysteria after running out of arguments. It also explains the whole "snappier" thing - as it does take quite an active delusion/imagination to draw such positive conclusions about 8.
Microsoft could go into negative in its windows division and do fine. Office is the main money maker anyway, and it's still going to get a cut off almost every PC sold even if it stopped developing windows tomorrow.
OEMs on the other hand sell hardware. And hardware sits on the shelves, while customers ask "can I get this with 7? Only 8? Yeah, I'll stick to my old machine after all, thanks".
Calling that "crying", well, there is a special place in hell for people like you.
There is a single continous Chinese (specifically Han) culture however. Parents argument was that "chinese are new to diplomacy". As far as we are concerned, current chinese culture practiced diplomacy about ten times longer than white colonists lived on American continent.
Why you are so exceptionally clueless is beyond me. Automotive ICE efficiency is several TIMES worse than that of a major power plant burner.
As a result, how electricity is generated is largely irrelevant for the subject. It will still be always better than automotive ICE, even if it's a coal plant from the fifties.
It's a simply fact of both efficiency of using steam turbines vs pistons/wankel and economy of size.
I'm sorry, are you someone who has any kind of power to change microsoft's stupidity?
No?
Then why on earth would Samsung, HP, Toshiba, Acer and so on care enough about you or your opinion on the subject?
P.S. They have been complaining to about anyone in the press who has been listening though. Because unlike you, these people actually have the push to do something about it. A basic google search will result in a boatload of hits on the subject.
P.P.S. At least during vista, alternatives have been pretty crappy. Right now, alternatives are plentiful and PC sales show it. We're looking at a nosedive in PC sales for everyone right now. Far worse than ever before.
Tell that to OEMs making those PCs. I'm sure they're interested to hear the grand olden stories of the good old days.
Unfortunately reality is that if you ask anyone working in today's shop what's the single most important reason people walk out of their shop without purchase, it's their answer "no" to the question "can I get this with windows 7?"
That is the sad reality. And excessive brown nosing isn't going to make it better - it's going to make it worse because the problem will not be fixed for a longer period of time.
Indeed. Except that right now, even OEMs are screaming down your employer's/idol's ear to make a desktop OS for desktop again.
That and they are shifting towards making things other than PCs. Sadly. I guess we'll see what gives in first, desktop PC market or microsoft bosses egoes. As I quite like desktop PCs, I'm hoping is the latter.
Not sure if troll or ignorant. Chinese empire is the oldest one on earth by far. No other civilization in our history survived as long as theirs.
Yes, because these are solely spent on cars, and if cars didn't exist, we wouldn't need the electricity.
Seriously, head and ass. They should not be inside of one another. Normally.
And I drive a gasoline powered car by the way. And about 40% of electricity I buy is generated from coal according to my invoice. So what?
Which dictatorships? Democratic ones?
You know, there was a really good write up a while ago on al-jazeera about free trade and democracy. Specifically how to free trade, democracy is a despot, and despotic ruler is a good one. Because corporatism and fascism relies on pliable leaders willing to sell out their constituents, and democracy, when it works, produces leaders that do not.
The so called "bolivarian socialist places" such as Venezuela are a great example. Even with the massive economic punishment unleashed upon them by both multinationals and US, leaders of which apparently felt massively insulted by the fact that people actually dared to resist it, they managed to stand on their own two feet and improve their lives dramatically.
So do tell me, how are they "the same"? Do they push people into poverty in the name of enriching multinationals in Venezuela? Because last I checked, they keep nationalizing key industries, and using the profits to subsidize things like cheap food for the poor.
If that is "more of the same", we do not live in the same world, for I live in reality and you apparently live in the fantasy world filled with stars, stripes and freedom.
Problem with WASTE is its hilarious overhead. We had a case where around min 2000s uni network's DC hub was shut down and users moved to WASTE. Suddenly all those intranet 100mbps-1gbps links that you never saw coming close to 10% usage were getting saturated as WASTE bounced every file transfer several times between nodes to obfuscate sender/receiver.
Because they are. One of the reasons for cyanogenmod's existence is to cut down on the "ad bombardment" through reduction of data collection and implementing privacy control and limited ad blocking.
I'd be betting on a big manufacturer buying them instead, such as Samsung, to start their own phone line loosely based on android.
So basically it's an attempt to stack overhead costs in a way that would make electric car look bad.
How original. As you obviously cannot do the same with the actual burning process, you try to throw shit hoping some will stick.
Hint: Dollar costs do not reflect efficiency nor pollution/CO2 emissions.
No, I'll just keep using seven wondering how long microsoft can keep it up.