I think the confusion is over the fact that Rendezvous has nothing to do with assigning IPs and netmasks to devices on the network. So no, it wont do that for you.
This particular problem with Rendezvous was that it didnt do something its not suppost to.:)
Now, if your printer (or print server) also supported Rendezvous, and could talk on the network (IE you had the IP informatino setup correctly) then you would have been able to use the printers name without ever assigning that name an IP address.
I didnt see anything in the review that said that is what you tried to do either.
You actually made it sound like the printer is a network printer and not connected to a mac os X host to share it. If that was/is the case, Rendezvous will have nothing to do with the printer anyways, so everything is working as it should:)
Go to section '2. The Top Level Structure of the Domain Names'
See the following:
Of these generic domains, five are international in nature, and two are restricted to use by entities in the United States.
World Wide Generic Domains:
COM - This domain is intended for commercial entities, that is companies. This domain has grown very large and there is concern about the administrative load and system performance if the current growth pattern is continued. Consideration is being taken to subdivide the COM domain and only allow future commercial registrations in the subdomains.
So, my question is why dont they bring charges aginst HP for knowingly forcing people to use software that does not do what they claim (Unless being broken into is on the features list) as well as claim damages for the couple days their DMCA invocation caused by making us all run their vulnerable software?
Also, i cant remember the name, but if you threaten someone with a lawsuit and have no intentions of following through with it, that is a crime as well.
Ah well, thats the joy of the USA.. everything is a crime now
Actually in Mac OS X and Windows XP it has changed. It works exactly as you request in the end of your post. (Well, bugs aside, its Suppost to work that way.)
Once those OSes become the 'oldest still willing to run' in 10 years, all OSes will have that feature.
What i want to see is a replacement for the floppy drive, identical up to the connector/bus and power feed, and 3.5" size.
Something cheap and mounts flash disks or whatnot, but is a dropin replacement and seen as a larger floppy disk to the pc.
Unfortunatly, till then, cdrs and floppys are all we have.
Does nobody here run correctly setup intrusion detection anymore??
Ok, so go check out the program Tripwire, or any other app like it.
It makes multiple types of hashes for system files and directories (you tell it what in a config) and it saves these in a database.
This database should be saved on a floppy. Then you lock the floppy with the little tab and put it back in.
tripwire runs every 12 hours from cron and compares the database on the floppy with the realsystem.
if something pops up that you didnt change, you got hacked.
If its something you changed yourself, unlock the floppy disk with the little tab, put it back, update those files hashes and whatnot, then when its done saving, lock the floppy again.
If you DO get broken into, it is not possible to sneek it past you by installing a rootkit and simply updating tripwires database themselfs. They cant, without physical access to that floppy.
You could use NFS on one central fileserver, if you were 100% positive that machine would never be broken into. But can you be 100% sure?
Floppy drives are great for this. Disks are cheap if not free, drives are standard, and they are perfect hardware lockable media to protect the computer from itself.
But that is along the lines of copyrighting the 'System requierments' of your software.
I do realize that while you can say what others can and cant do with your copyrighted works, does this hold true for a legal contract?
In addition, once a piece of paperwork goes through a court (atleast the evedence that is) it becomes public record.
You sorta have to submit the EULA as evedence if you wish to attempt to prove someone commited a crime by violating its terms.
So even if this 'copyright' was true and held, it would only be held up until the EULA was tested in court. After the first court battle, it becomes public record and you are free to do with as you please in terms of posting it (Now you are simply posting public court records, not a document that belongs to someone else, which is another nice detail about the US court system)
This information would also be good to have in the database (If it has been issued as evedence in any court cases yet) which would tell you both, if its ok to repost or not, and if it has never been tested in court.
That way if it HAS been tested in court, you a) know you can post it elsewhere, and b) can see if it upheld or not (links to court cases and info would be great) so you can see how it came out incase you were planning on voilating its terms as well.
You are correct, the system needs to reply with that, so the ping is processed by the normal IP stack and echoed back. The reply is what causes the disconnect.
Ping is just one method to do it. If the remote machine has any services running like FTP or sendmail or whatnot, you can usually telnet to the service and type (as example)
USER +++ATH0 PASS asdf
Some services end up sending a reply such as Bad password for
Of course almost any protocol using TCP can be effected if it echos any user supplied data back out.
Fun to embed into a webpage as well, older IE wouldnt take a link provided as is and escape it before requesting that link. (Dont know what other browsers would do this still however)
"ps. bonus question, food for thought: 'who' gets the libel for AI decisions?"
Well, just in that we train our children to act a certain way, AI will need to be trained also.
This opens up a whole new meaning to 'bad parent', and being able to take responsibility for your own actions.
One would of course hope for the best, but knowing how the USA is, i see AI not being concidered life/intelligence and being enslaved for some time before anything 'right' is done.
Just hope they dont make the comparisons between AI and real people, because as one would imagine they would 'wake up and see' and make AI equal to us, i fear they will do so by lowering our rights to match that of enslaved machines.
Sorry for being a bit on the bitter side, but you have to admit you can see it happening:P
The "security lockdown" is obviously not at all related to security. The govt. simply wants to remove all of our personal freedom.
Just because we were taught to hate countrys like russa and germany for doing these things, doesnt mean our govt wouldnt kill to be able to do them to us.
"How will the starship designs in Star Trek influence real shuttle and space craft designs?"
Cant say about starships, but the concept of a 'bridge' was introduced on StarTrek and then taken by the US millatary for use on seagoing ships and subs and what have you.
Pre star trek there was no central command station, other than where the captan happened to be standing on deck maybe.
Engine room, map/plot room, comm room, etc were all spread out over the ship, with communications between them. In the old old days (sorry) this communication system was just a bunch of pipes one could talk into and sorta hear out of the other side.
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"So what do you use for links on your web pages? IP addresses, which will go bad as soon as the destination site reorganizes; or DNS names, which won't work for any users who subscribe to a different database?"
Well, for internal links you do what you should be doing now. Dont include the domain at all, and dont begin the url with a HTTP://
bad : href="http://www.example.com/path/to/my/document.h tml" good: href="/path/to/my/document.html"
For external links, the idea is stability in IP addresses (Which isnt easy in IPv4, not because its not doable, but because ICANN would like us to believe its not doable.)
as 56kbit will fit within 64kbit, you know with no math that you can easily fit 24 56kbit streams in a t1 with plenty left over.
With some math you see there is 8kbit left over per channel, so that is 8kbit * 24 = 192kbit, which / 24 channels is 3.43. So you could fit another 3 full 56k streams in there.
This totals 27 (24+3) full 56kbit streams in a t1 and that Still leaves bandwidth left over.
The 0.43 left over is out of 56kbit, so thats really 24kbit left over.
As we all know, a group of people on 56k lines will not all be using 100% of their bandwidth at the same time, nor will all be getting exactly 56kbit/sec unless they are digital lines and not analog modems.
However being able to have 27 56kbit/sec streams and a single 24kbit/sec stream all inside a T1 before its 'full' is a far cry from "that's 1/20 of a T1 for home users. FYI, that's slower then 56k."
If you know, would you mind giving out a URL to a step by step doc for those of us not experenced with windows administration on how to make the 'my documents' folder be on a file share?
.tgz is a gziped tar file. It is not a package format at all, anymore than.zip is a package format for windows.
tar combines multiple files with paths into one file, and gzip compresses a single file. zip is both of these features together.
(Tar came first as it was used to combine files into one to store on tapes, thus 'tar' which is 'tape archiver')
The extent of the slackware package system is that each.tgz file contains a shell script that is installed to/install/doinst.sh which is run after the tgz is extracted. The doinst.sh script is suppost to do anything that simply placing files in the system cant. It also contains files to let the system know it was installed (for removals and sorta for dependencys, but just dependencys for removing files, not what you need to install)
The idea behind slack is only system software is installed from packages, which are on the CD. You dont need packages for anything but the OS.
Anything YOU install (in/usr/local, or/opt ) is suppost to be installed by you from source.
If you want a packaging system for non OS related software, use a distribution that has that, like almost any of the other ones have.
The AC never said you were a thief, so i dont understand your post at all?
Way to point out something that has nothing to do with the thread though:}
He said you were a criminal.. by the fact you said you were using a pirated version in your post.
Piracy is a crime as well.
Now, if anyone other than MS cares you are a criminal, thats a different story all together.
But if you live in the USA, you are a criminal anyway. It is not possible to go a day without breaking a law, or doing something (or not doing something) where the govt. can throw you in a catch-all law and convict you anyways.
You my friend are indeed a criminal, but then again 95% of all/. readers are by what the 'law' defines a criminal.. so who cares:}
I have to fully aggree. I got my TiVo back in August of 01. Recently (2-3 weeks ago ish) it developed a problem with its modem. (Couldnt attach to the line enough to send/get sounds, but could tell if the line was in use by its voltage) and i suspect it had to do with a storm hitting the line itself.
So had to send it back in to tivo for replacement.
In the past two weeks, ive had the TV on twice, maybe for 30 minutes each.
I simply can not watch TV without TiVo anymore. Nothing is on when i can watch tv, and everything i want to see is on when im not home.
Im the type that gets maybe 3-4 hrs once a week to devote to TV, and sometimes on the weekends depending. I like having the weeks worth of shows sitting there for when i have time to watch.
Without tivo i simply cant stand 'channel flipping' and settling on something simply because its the best on at the moment.
The plus side is i am a tad more constructive with those few free hours a week now i suppose:}
I got my replacement tivo however it had a dead HD on arrival.. so now have to send it back and wait even longer *groan*
Best part was while on the phone about the 2nd tivo, they not only appologized up and down (and i wasnt even mad or upset or anything, let alone sounded that way.. Its not like they have control over how UPS kicks packages around, and i dont fault them for it) they also offered a free month of service for the problems, without me even asking. Now thats customer support!
Quite a few abortion clinics are bombed and doctors murdered under the name of christianity and christian ways, when its clear the law has a different say in the matter (IE what these drs are doing is legal.)
While i personally realize ALL christians arnt like this, its about as good of an argument as yours stating what ALL christians do/dont do.
This is why 'grouping' people sucks. Its next to impossible to have a group where literally ALL of its members meet a criteria. All it takes is one (1) single person to have an alterior motive and 'all' is no longer a true statement.
Totally off topic but thought I would share (What the hey its a slow day at work)
When i was taking my drivers test, i was #2 in line for the day. My mother and I were standing by the front window of the building watching out, standing next to and chatting with the mother of the girl taking her test before me.
As the girl pulls up to the parking spot, the instructer opens the door and begins to get out. She then suddenly pulls forward and the rear tire ended up actually running over the instructors foot!
It was of course not funny at the time it was all happening, but afterwards when i took my test (Different instructor of couse) and came back, I found out this person indeed passed fully.
And all that time before i was so worried about ME passing the test...
On a totally unrelated and seperate occasion, I got a ticket for something and wanted to lookup how many points that is on your licence, and how many you can get before it was suspended in the state of Ohio (It was my first ticket, i was just curious.)
Once you hit 8 points your licence is suspended. Further down on the violations->points chart, it listed "Vehicular Manslaughter -- 6 points"
Parently you can hit and kill someone and if its your only voilation still not have your licence revoked:P
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I think the confusion is over the fact that Rendezvous has nothing to do with assigning IPs and netmasks to devices on the network.
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So no, it wont do that for you.
This particular problem with Rendezvous was that it didnt do something its not suppost to.
Now, if your printer (or print server) also supported Rendezvous, and could talk on the network (IE you had the IP informatino setup correctly) then you would have been able to use the printers name without ever assigning that name an IP address.
I didnt see anything in the review that said that is what you tried to do either.
You actually made it sound like the printer is a network printer and not connected to a mac os X host to share it. If that was/is the case, Rendezvous will have nothing to do with the printer anyways, so everything is working as it should
--Jon
Go to section '2. The Top Level Structure of the Domain Names'
See the following:
So, my question is why dont they bring charges aginst HP for knowingly forcing people to use software that does not do what they claim (Unless being broken into is on the features list) as well as claim damages for the couple days their DMCA invocation caused by making us all run their vulnerable software?
Also, i cant remember the name, but if you threaten someone with a lawsuit and have no intentions of following through with it, that is a crime as well.
Ah well, thats the joy of the USA.. everything is a crime now
If you arnt another company, "building a working relationship with _____" generally means attempting to get the company to reply to your emails.
I think the message was that its free to whoever plugged into the extension cord and used it :)
Not to the person providing it.
But that should be that persons choice is the over all point of course
Actually in Mac OS X and Windows XP it has changed. It works exactly as you request in the end of your post. (Well, bugs aside, its Suppost to work that way.)
Once those OSes become the 'oldest still willing to run' in 10 years, all OSes will have that feature.
What i want to see is a replacement for the floppy drive, identical up to the connector/bus and power feed, and 3.5" size.
Something cheap and mounts flash disks or whatnot, but is a dropin replacement and seen as a larger floppy disk to the pc.
Unfortunatly, till then, cdrs and floppys are all we have.
Does nobody here run correctly setup intrusion detection anymore??
Ok, so go check out the program Tripwire, or any other app like it.
It makes multiple types of hashes for system files and directories (you tell it what in a config) and it saves these in a database.
This database should be saved on a floppy. Then you lock the floppy with the little tab and put it back in.
tripwire runs every 12 hours from cron and compares the database on the floppy with the realsystem.
if something pops up that you didnt change, you got hacked.
If its something you changed yourself, unlock the floppy disk with the little tab, put it back, update those files hashes and whatnot, then when its done saving, lock the floppy again.
If you DO get broken into, it is not possible to sneek it past you by installing a rootkit and simply updating tripwires database themselfs. They cant, without physical access to that floppy.
You could use NFS on one central fileserver, if you were 100% positive that machine would never be broken into. But can you be 100% sure?
Floppy drives are great for this. Disks are cheap if not free, drives are standard, and they are perfect hardware lockable media to protect the computer from itself.
But that is along the lines of copyrighting the 'System requierments' of your software.
I do realize that while you can say what others can and cant do with your copyrighted works, does this hold true for a legal contract?
In addition, once a piece of paperwork goes through a court (atleast the evedence that is) it becomes public record.
You sorta have to submit the EULA as evedence if you wish to attempt to prove someone commited a crime by violating its terms.
So even if this 'copyright' was true and held, it would only be held up until the EULA was tested in court. After the first court battle, it becomes public record and you are free to do with as you please in terms of posting it (Now you are simply posting public court records, not a document that belongs to someone else, which is another nice detail about the US court system)
This information would also be good to have in the database (If it has been issued as evedence in any court cases yet)
which would tell you both, if its ok to repost or not, and if it has never been tested in court.
That way if it HAS been tested in court, you a) know you can post it elsewhere, and b) can see if it upheld or not (links to court cases and info would be great) so you can see how it came out incase you were planning on voilating its terms as well.
Great idea!
You are correct, the system needs to reply with that, so the ping is processed by the normal IP stack and echoed back. The reply is what causes the disconnect.
Ping is just one method to do it. If the remote machine has any services running like FTP or sendmail or whatnot, you can usually telnet to the service and type (as example)
USER +++ATH0
PASS asdf
Some services end up sending a reply such as
Bad password for
Of course almost any protocol using TCP can be effected if it echos any user supplied data back out.
Fun to embed into a webpage as well, older IE wouldnt take a link provided as is and escape it before requesting that link. (Dont know what other browsers would do this still however)
"ps. bonus question, food for thought: 'who' gets the libel for AI decisions?"
:P
Well, just in that we train our children to act a certain way, AI will need to be trained also.
This opens up a whole new meaning to 'bad parent', and being able to take responsibility for your own actions.
One would of course hope for the best, but knowing how the USA is, i see AI not being concidered life/intelligence and being enslaved for some time before anything 'right' is done.
Just hope they dont make the comparisons between AI and real people, because as one would imagine they would 'wake up and see' and make AI equal to us, i fear they will do so by lowering our rights to match that of enslaved machines.
Sorry for being a bit on the bitter side, but you have to admit you can see it happening
The "security lockdown" is obviously not at all related to security. The govt. simply wants to remove all of our personal freedom.
Just because we were taught to hate countrys like russa and germany for doing these things, doesnt mean our govt wouldnt kill to be able to do them to us.
Nice, thats exactly what i was looking for.
Thanks!
"I have the whole 10cd set "
I too would be interested in knowing more about that... Was this custom made by yourself or obtained somewhere?
feel free to contact me about it if youd be willing to share info
"How will the starship designs in Star Trek influence real shuttle and space craft designs?"
Cant say about starships, but the concept of a 'bridge' was introduced on StarTrek and then taken by the US millatary for use on seagoing ships and subs and what have you.
Pre star trek there was no central command station, other than where the captan happened to be standing on deck maybe.
Engine room, map/plot room, comm room, etc were all spread out over the ship, with communications between them. In the old old days (sorry) this communication system was just a bunch of pipes one could talk into and sorta hear out of the other side.
"So what do you use for links on your web pages? IP addresses, which will go bad as soon as the destination site reorganizes; or DNS names, which won't work for any users who subscribe to a different database?"
h tml"
Well, for internal links you do what you should be doing now. Dont include the domain at all, and dont begin the url with a HTTP://
bad : href="http://www.example.com/path/to/my/document.
good: href="/path/to/my/document.html"
For external links, the idea is stability in IP addresses (Which isnt easy in IPv4, not because its not doable, but because ICANN would like us to believe its not doable.)
A T1 is a DS1 made into 24 channels each of 64k.
/1024 = 1.500 mbit
64kbit * 24 chans = 1536kbit or
as 56kbit will fit within 64kbit, you know with no math that you can easily fit 24 56kbit streams in a t1 with plenty left over.
With some math you see there is 8kbit left over per channel, so that is 8kbit * 24 = 192kbit, which / 24 channels is 3.43.
So you could fit another 3 full 56k streams in there.
This totals 27 (24+3) full 56kbit streams in a t1 and that Still leaves bandwidth left over.
The 0.43 left over is out of 56kbit, so thats really 24kbit left over.
As we all know, a group of people on 56k lines will not all be using 100% of their bandwidth at the same time, nor will all be getting exactly 56kbit/sec unless they are digital lines and not analog modems.
However being able to have 27 56kbit/sec streams and a single 24kbit/sec stream all inside a T1 before its 'full' is a far cry from
"that's 1/20 of a T1 for home users. FYI, that's slower then 56k."
--jon
Unfortunatly however, you only own the CD. its very hard to sell the CD without the music that is already on it, which you do not own.
:(
This is no doubt what they will be taxing.
I dont like it either, nor are arguing for them.. just pointing it out is all
If you know, would you mind giving out a URL to a step by step doc for those of us not experenced with windows administration on how to make the 'my documents' folder be on a file share?
Thanks!
My bank offers a service where i can generate one-time-use creditcard numbers only valid up to a certain amount and certain expiration date.
I use this for any online purchase anymore out of paranoia.
Its called MBNA Shop Safe and if you have any MBNA creditcard you can go online to do it yourself.
http://www.mbnanetaccess.com/
.tgz is a gziped tar file. It is not a package format at all, anymore than .zip is a package format for windows.
.tgz file contains a shell script that is installed to /install/doinst.sh which is run after the tgz is extracted. The doinst.sh script is suppost to do anything that simply placing files in the system cant.
/usr/local, or /opt ) is suppost to be installed by you from source.
tar combines multiple files with paths into one file, and gzip compresses a single file.
zip is both of these features together.
(Tar came first as it was used to combine files into one to store on tapes, thus 'tar' which is 'tape archiver')
The extent of the slackware package system is that each
It also contains files to let the system know it was installed (for removals and sorta for dependencys, but just dependencys for removing files, not what you need to install)
The idea behind slack is only system software is installed from packages, which are on the CD.
You dont need packages for anything but the OS.
Anything YOU install (in
If you want a packaging system for non OS related software, use a distribution that has that, like almost any of the other ones have.
The AC never said you were a thief, so i dont understand your post at all?
:}
/. readers are by what the 'law' defines a criminal.. so who cares :}
Way to point out something that has nothing to do with the thread though
He said you were a criminal.. by the fact you said you were using a pirated version in your post.
Piracy is a crime as well.
Now, if anyone other than MS cares you are a criminal, thats a different story all together.
But if you live in the USA, you are a criminal anyway. It is not possible to go a day without breaking a law, or doing something (or not doing something) where the govt. can throw you in a catch-all law and convict you anyways.
You my friend are indeed a criminal, but then again 95% of all
I have to fully aggree.
:}
I got my TiVo back in August of 01.
Recently (2-3 weeks ago ish) it developed a problem with its modem. (Couldnt attach to the line enough to send/get sounds, but could tell if the line was in use by its voltage) and i suspect it had to do with a storm hitting the line itself.
So had to send it back in to tivo for replacement.
In the past two weeks, ive had the TV on twice, maybe for 30 minutes each.
I simply can not watch TV without TiVo anymore.
Nothing is on when i can watch tv, and everything i want to see is on when im not home.
Im the type that gets maybe 3-4 hrs once a week to devote to TV, and sometimes on the weekends depending. I like having the weeks worth of shows sitting there for when i have time to watch.
Without tivo i simply cant stand 'channel flipping' and settling on something simply because its the best on at the moment.
The plus side is i am a tad more constructive with those few free hours a week now i suppose
I got my replacement tivo however it had a dead HD on arrival.. so now have to send it back and wait even longer *groan*
Best part was while on the phone about the 2nd tivo, they not only appologized up and down (and i wasnt even mad or upset or anything, let alone sounded that way.. Its not like they have control over how UPS kicks packages around, and i dont fault them for it) they also offered a free month of service for the problems, without me even asking. Now thats customer support!
Cant praise tivo enough -- Jon
heh
My signature on the credit card recept was also a typo and thus not a valid contract.. So its now not fraud to have the bank reverse the charges?
Use their logic aginst them.
Quite a few abortion clinics are bombed and doctors murdered under the name of christianity and christian ways, when its clear the law has a different say in the matter (IE what these drs are doing is legal.)
While i personally realize ALL christians arnt like this, its about as good of an argument as yours stating what ALL christians do/dont do.
This is why 'grouping' people sucks. Its next to impossible to have a group where literally ALL of its members meet a criteria. All it takes is one (1) single person to have an alterior motive and 'all' is no longer a true statement.
Totally off topic but thought I would share (What the hey its a slow day at work)
:P
When i was taking my drivers test, i was #2 in line for the day. My mother and I were standing by the front window of the building watching out, standing next to and chatting with the mother of the girl taking her test before me.
As the girl pulls up to the parking spot, the instructer opens the door and begins to get out.
She then suddenly pulls forward and the rear tire ended up actually running over the instructors foot!
It was of course not funny at the time it was all happening, but afterwards when i took my test (Different instructor of couse) and came back, I found out this person indeed passed fully.
And all that time before i was so worried about ME passing the test...
On a totally unrelated and seperate occasion, I got a ticket for something and wanted to lookup how many points that is on your licence, and how many you can get before it was suspended in the state of Ohio (It was my first ticket, i was just curious.)
Once you hit 8 points your licence is suspended.
Further down on the violations->points chart, it listed "Vehicular Manslaughter -- 6 points"
Parently you can hit and kill someone and if its your only voilation still not have your licence revoked
Gotta love the system
--Jon