I wonder if this is the same Mac that was used in the famous transparent aluminum scene in Star Trek 4 that Scotty was speaking with. I'm pretty sure that was a Mac Plus as well.
I was going to say someone in town should solve the problem by fertilizing his crops with radiation, and then going in with a geiger counter to show that his garlic is already too radioactive to be "organic" so the tower wouldn't be so bad.
Then I realized 1: that would probably be somewhat irresponsible and illegal and more importantly 2: Anyone sufficiently motivated would face ordering the radioactive stuff... ON DIALUP.
That's way too much effort. Ordering online via dialup?! Plus doing the irradiation of his field is a lot of work too;P
Just go simple. Burn the field down! Then there will be nothing left for him to claim will be harmed by the tower >:D
Bonus points if you go back to the scene a week later and salt the earth.
On a serious note, I think this guy should be required to willingly give up all of his radio and TV receivers and any radio transmitters he might have. You shouldn't get to ban everyone else from using a multi-century old proven safe technology, while at the same time taking advantage of that technology yourself.
No more two way radios for farm hands to stay in contact, no more cell phones for emergency calls, no more TV.
I'd bet money he would not be willing to give up any of that himself.
What I use is BackupPC. It's a very nice web front end to tar over ssh.
For linux, all the remote servers need are sshd listening somewhere, and with the backuppc servers public key in an authorizedhosts file. It will pipe tar streams over an ssh connection.
For windows, it can use samba to backup over SMB
I run a copy on my home file server, which backs up all the machines in the house, plus the couple servers I have out in colo.
When it performs an incremental backup, after it is done it will populate its timestamped folder with hardlinks to the last full backup for duped files. so restoring from any incremental will still get the full version no matter when it was last backed up.
Also after each backup, it will do 2 hashes on every file and the previous backup. If the files match, it deletes the second copy and again hardlinks it to the first copy of the file. I have nearly 3 months worth of backup retention, backups every 3 days (every day on a couple), but for the base system and files that rarely change, each 'copy' does not take up the same amount of disk space. It is very good at saving disk space.
Heres some stats from its main page as an example
There are 7 hosts that have been backed up, for a total of:
* 26 full backups of total size 38.34GB (prior to pooling and compression),
* 43 incr backups of total size 0.63GB (prior to pooling and compression).
Pool is 10.11GB comprising 108499 files and 4369 directories (as of 9/16 01:00),
Restoring gives you a file browser with checkboxes. after you tell it what you want, it can send you a tar(.gz) or.zip file, OR it can directly restore the file via tar over ssh back to the machine it was on, by default in the original location but that can be changed easily too.
The main downside is the learning curve. But once you get things down, you end up just copying other systems as templates, updating the host/port/keyfile/etc settings. Also, with all those hard links, it makes it a pain to do any file/folder manipulation on its data dir. Most programs won't recognize the hard link and just copy the file, easily taking up the full amount of storage.
But works just as well with only itself and one remote server. schedule it to start at night and stop in the morning, set your frequency and how much space to use before it deletes old backups, and let it run.
As a non-American citizen I feel the reverse holds true. When I enter the USA from Canada I should bring a seperate bare-bones, no thrills cell phone and an empty laptop. Because if the TSA decides that they want to snoop through my electronics there is no telling what information they are pulling out, government created spyware being installed, or some sort of magical chip that transmits everything I am doing back to them.
See, Conspiracy theories work both ways...
I know you said all that in jest, but you are more right than you suspect. And the situation with DHS and the TSA is very close to that (Other than installing hardware.. though the law does explicitly allow them to, even if they don't do it now)
That isn't a conspiracy or paranoia, its a well proven fact.
So the copyright industry wants you kicked off the net for three mere accusations of copyright infringement. That could be as little as three songs.
Not quite, it is worse than that. You can be found guilty under this law with as little as ZERO songs.
Watch. I accuse you of infringing my copyright.
There. Unless you coincidentally are pirating music right now (lets assume not for this example), I have just accused you and thus you are guilty. Every requirement of the law has been met.
Infringing copyright is not needed. Thus no sort of proof is required since that aspect is irrelevant.
Get two more people to copy my statement above, and by law your ISP must disconnect you.
In the majority of human civilization, such pictures (the ones of mutilation) would not be regarded as artistic, but rather as obscene. In modern times, we've turned freedom of speech into a license to do wholesale degradation to beauty, truth, human sexuality, etc. to such a degree that even the most perverse things as tolerable.
So in your world, you would be OK with your government banning the practice of your wife and daughters getting their ears pierced? How bout the shaving public hair for sanitary reasons?
It is the same body mutilation, degrading the natural body and truth.
The article is about Medical Insurance (HMO's, etc) paying for consumer devices such as iPhones and software to run medical uses,
Exactly. iPhones are not medical devices. "Medical Device" has special meaning, and an iPhone with some medical apps on it does not a medical device make.
Either these people are choosing the wrong type of insurance (The correct type, or at least the only type you are going to find in existence) is that which I pointed out, or they are choosing the wrong type of device for their health. This claim however is ludicrous.
Medical insurance is to cover actual medical devices. There is a very good reason these things cost more than a smartphone ever would. They need to be safety tested with live humans, and that is not cheap.
If Apple does not wish to pay all of that money to have the iPhone certified as a medical device (and there is no reason they should), then you can't claim it a medical device, and medical insurance doesn't come into the picture.
If Apple DID want to pay for that testing, the cost of said testing will be added to the price for the end-user, and the iPhone wouldn't be $400 but $8000 instead, and these people would be having the exact same complaint.
And how many of us here bother to spend insurance on electronic items (I know some do, but I don't think it's universal)? Or is the article on about something else altogether?
Indecently, my standard renters insurance policy covers my home computer gear, and has an add-on "floater" policy to cover my laptops when not at home. The floater costs a little bit extra each month (~$40, but changes on your level of coverage), but covers theft as well as damages like fire, etc.
My iPhone is relatively new, so not insured at all, but I imagine they would let me add it to the floater policy similar to how my laptops are covered.
I would never have dreamed of attempting to claim it was for medical purposes and get medical insurance over the thing, when normal insurance is so cheap and plentiful!
Check with your renters or home owners insurance company and see what they offer. You might be surprised how inexpensive it can be.
For anyone who didn't read the above properly, or can't be bothered going back over it again, I was running Apache on Linux and the Code Red worm infected Microsoft IIS Web Servers.
Wow, WINE is coming along a lot faster than I thought!
The last Windows install I did was to XP, about five years ago. It took all afternoon. Linux (at least Mandriva and Suse) are easy to install, Windows is a pain in the ass.
Not to mention your apps, after the OS install is done.
In Debian for example, you can backup a list of installed packages with: dpkg --get-selections > packages_backup_(date).txt
A restore by package name on a fresh install is as easy as: dpkg --set-selections packages_backup_(date).txt && apt-get dselect-upgrade
Both easily aliased or scripted.
If your/usr tree is on another disk, generally one just needs to mount it and all your apps are back.
Since windows keeps most of an applications files in the c:\windows\system32 series of folders, plus most of the settings in the registry, you lose those parts of the application and the only way to fix the problem is an app reinstall, adding even more time needed to get a machine back up to a usable state.
Windows is just not designed to be easily backed up and restored in an automated fashion.
Not just fraud but breach of contract. The users accepted the iPhone EULA with the understanding that tethering would work. I smell a class-action suit.
Odd, my iPhone & AT&T contract specifically states tethering is NOT allowed.
Apple also said that tethering is a new feature available in OS 3.0 (Which it is, as in the software to do so is in the firmware), however they also say that as far as the cell carrier goes, AT&T does not offer tethering at all in the US.
A Windows machine being run by someone who cares about security and updates it regularly won't end up in a botnet either, so I'm not sure what your point is.
If Microsoft's vulnerability announcements from the past are any indication of the future, then your statement can't possibly be proven for another 1-8 years. After all, most exploits in Windows existed for 1-8 years with only Microsoft and the blackhats knowing about it, before they get announced and patched.
So all of the exploits in your current fully patched version of windows will not come to light for another 1-8 years. Just because they have not yet been fixed or announced does not mean they aren't there
Granted, I can't prove you are right or wrong for that amount of time either... Thus why I say, if the past is any indication of the future... Would YOU trust Microsoft given their past behavior?
Of course both this post and yours has nothing to do with the article.
When an admin chooses to send their root (or administrator for windows) passwords in clear text to everyone in network earshot, they could be running any OS or webserver and it wouldn't at all matter. They gave out the passwords.
I agree completely that these flaws are not shared with other commercial approaches. However, it is clear that many commercial approaches are paying attention (and experts) to solve the problems stated above (with or without success). With OSS, I'm not so sure this is actually the case.
It is a point that there are more commercial interests trying to solve the problem with their software than there are for OSS, but that is only* a problem if you look at just the manufacturer/developers. There are third party consulting services available, whom have on staff experts (or semi-experts) at most any problem you can throw at them. This service is not cheap, but I've found well worth it. An while most of my work projects don't take that into account as a primary concern, in later conversations, there is nothing I have done that our contractor company can't send someone out to deal with if needed (say if I ever left the company.)
[*] I say only, but realize with commercial software, that is most always the preferred route.
Also, although this is the wrong place to put this comment, I would like to stress the possibility of vandalism/sabotage of certain corporations on OSS.
There is also vandalism/sabotage between a lot of corporations, as well as between OSS projects. The world of software recovers extremely quickly to such things no matter where they take place.
1. Lack of user-testing 2. Incomplete, incomprehensible, multi-format documentation. 3. Lack of quality control (eg. automated testing) 4. Unannounced drop of support on certain projects. 5. A plethora of linux distributions makes it difficult to choose. 6. Too many configuration formats. 7. The UNIX framework is not mature anymore and because of its design flaws, responds horribly to new demands. 8. Too many different programming languages make it difficult for new talent to drop in or to integrate different approaches. 9. KISS principle is broken too many times. 10. Featuritis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature_creep)
Ironically (Other than #5 and #7 needing rewording) that is the exact list of complaints I have against most of the commercial software packages I have to work with!
If you replace the word 'linux distro' with 'windows release' in #5, and replace 'unix' with the list of 20 frameworks used in windows for #7, then it is an exact match.
Don't you think cops have more to do than fill out paper work on a kindle you lost? Even if it was Stolen out of your back pack, who has time to have cops filling out paperwork for a 300 dollar device?
Just make sure you buy enough ebooks for it so the value is closer to $30000 instead of $300, then it will be over the limit of being worth finding.
Or just say they plan to copy the 24 ebooks you have, and will causes a couple hundred million dollars of damage to the intellectual property economy.
How do you expect a mouse wheel to work without gravity? Strap the little guys down with elastic?
Personally I just place the official scientific-taunting-food-bite to float about 3 inches from where the floating mouse is, sit back, and watch him run!
They are so cute when hungry weightless and scared:D
"They"... Why do you just through all Police under the same buss with some idiot who needs to be charged with assault and battery? Just because some one dose something like this means all police think they can and should do it?
Well, obviously not a single cop or anyone working in any position in law enforcement there did ONE DAMN THING about that illegal immoral injustice.
So yes, every last single cop in that police department is morally bankrupt and clearly has NO objections to assault and battery of a 19 year old kid with a broken back, else they would have, I don't know, objected instead of providing excuses.
I mean, if you have proof otherwise, then please put it forward. My proof however is their very actions, during and after what happened to the kid.
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I wonder if this is the same Mac that was used in the famous transparent aluminum scene in Star Trek 4 that Scotty was speaking with. I'm pretty sure that was a Mac Plus as well.
Give up radio and telly? Do they radiate much then?
How else do you think the radio signal gets from the transmitter to the receiver?
I was going to say someone in town should solve the problem by fertilizing his crops with radiation, and then going in with a geiger counter to show that his garlic is already too radioactive to be "organic" so the tower wouldn't be so bad.
Then I realized 1: that would probably be somewhat irresponsible and illegal and more importantly 2: Anyone sufficiently motivated would face ordering the radioactive stuff... ON DIALUP.
That's way too much effort. Ordering online via dialup?! ;P
Plus doing the irradiation of his field is a lot of work too
Just go simple. Burn the field down!
Then there will be nothing left for him to claim will be harmed by the tower >:D
Bonus points if you go back to the scene a week later and salt the earth.
On a serious note, I think this guy should be required to willingly give up all of his radio and TV receivers and any radio transmitters he might have.
You shouldn't get to ban everyone else from using a multi-century old proven safe technology, while at the same time taking advantage of that technology yourself.
No more two way radios for farm hands to stay in contact, no more cell phones for emergency calls, no more TV.
I'd bet money he would not be willing to give up any of that himself.
Yeah, and that radiation makes his crops grow to many times their original size! Exactly as 60s sci-fi predicts! So now who's the idiot, huh?
The farmer featured in this article is, for saying he doesn't want the sun or any lights near his crops.
What I use is BackupPC. It's a very nice web front end to tar over ssh.
For linux, all the remote servers need are sshd listening somewhere, and with the backuppc servers public key in an authorizedhosts file. It will pipe tar streams over an ssh connection.
For windows, it can use samba to backup over SMB
I run a copy on my home file server, which backs up all the machines in the house, plus the couple servers I have out in colo.
When it performs an incremental backup, after it is done it will populate its timestamped folder with hardlinks to the last full backup for duped files. so restoring from any incremental will still get the full version no matter when it was last backed up.
Also after each backup, it will do 2 hashes on every file and the previous backup. If the files match, it deletes the second copy and again hardlinks it to the first copy of the file.
I have nearly 3 months worth of backup retention, backups every 3 days (every day on a couple), but for the base system and files that rarely change, each 'copy' does not take up the same amount of disk space.
It is very good at saving disk space.
Heres some stats from its main page as an example
There are 7 hosts that have been backed up, for a total of:
* 26 full backups of total size 38.34GB (prior to pooling and compression),
* 43 incr backups of total size 0.63GB (prior to pooling and compression).
Pool is 10.11GB comprising 108499 files and 4369 directories (as of 9/16 01:00),
Restoring gives you a file browser with checkboxes. after you tell it what you want, it can send you a tar(.gz) or .zip file, OR it can directly restore the file via tar over ssh back to the machine it was on, by default in the original location but that can be changed easily too.
The main downside is the learning curve. But once you get things down, you end up just copying other systems as templates, updating the host/port/keyfile/etc settings.
Also, with all those hard links, it makes it a pain to do any file/folder manipulation on its data dir.
Most programs won't recognize the hard link and just copy the file, easily taking up the full amount of storage.
But works just as well with only itself and one remote server.
schedule it to start at night and stop in the morning, set your frequency and how much space to use before it deletes old backups, and let it run.
As a non-American citizen I feel the reverse holds true. When I enter the USA from Canada I should bring a seperate bare-bones, no thrills cell phone and an empty laptop. Because if the TSA decides that they want to snoop through my electronics there is no telling what information they are pulling out, government created spyware being installed, or some sort of magical chip that transmits everything I am doing back to them.
See, Conspiracy theories work both ways...
I know you said all that in jest, but you are more right than you suspect. And the situation with DHS and the TSA is very close to that (Other than installing hardware.. though the law does explicitly allow them to, even if they don't do it now)
That isn't a conspiracy or paranoia, its a well proven fact.
So the copyright industry wants you kicked off the net for three mere accusations of copyright infringement. That could be as little as three songs.
Not quite, it is worse than that. You can be found guilty under this law with as little as ZERO songs.
Watch.
I accuse you of infringing my copyright.
There. Unless you coincidentally are pirating music right now (lets assume not for this example), I have just accused you and thus you are guilty. Every requirement of the law has been met.
Infringing copyright is not needed. Thus no sort of proof is required since that aspect is irrelevant.
Get two more people to copy my statement above, and by law your ISP must disconnect you.
Fun huh?
How will this pass the European Unions "right to free speech" when you have no internet connection to communicate with anyone?
If your mouth stops working when your internet connection goes down, I would suggest you see a doctor, quick!
In the majority of human civilization, such pictures (the ones of mutilation) would not be regarded as artistic, but rather as obscene. In modern times, we've turned freedom of speech into a license to do wholesale degradation to beauty, truth, human sexuality, etc. to such a degree that even the most perverse things as tolerable.
So in your world, you would be OK with your government banning the practice of your wife and daughters getting their ears pierced?
How bout the shaving public hair for sanitary reasons?
It is the same body mutilation, degrading the natural body and truth.
Sad, that.
The article is about Medical Insurance (HMO's, etc) paying for consumer devices such as iPhones and software to run medical uses,
Exactly. iPhones are not medical devices. "Medical Device" has special meaning, and an iPhone with some medical apps on it does not a medical device make.
Either these people are choosing the wrong type of insurance (The correct type, or at least the only type you are going to find in existence) is that which I pointed out, or they are choosing the wrong type of device for their health. This claim however is ludicrous.
Medical insurance is to cover actual medical devices. There is a very good reason these things cost more than a smartphone ever would. They need to be safety tested with live humans, and that is not cheap.
If Apple does not wish to pay all of that money to have the iPhone certified as a medical device (and there is no reason they should), then you can't claim it a medical device, and medical insurance doesn't come into the picture.
If Apple DID want to pay for that testing, the cost of said testing will be added to the price for the end-user, and the iPhone wouldn't be $400 but $8000 instead, and these people would be having the exact same complaint.
And how many of us here bother to spend insurance on electronic items (I know some do, but I don't think it's universal)? Or is the article on about something else altogether?
Indecently, my standard renters insurance policy covers my home computer gear, and has an add-on "floater" policy to cover my laptops when not at home.
The floater costs a little bit extra each month (~$40, but changes on your level of coverage), but covers theft as well as damages like fire, etc.
My iPhone is relatively new, so not insured at all, but I imagine they would let me add it to the floater policy similar to how my laptops are covered.
I would never have dreamed of attempting to claim it was for medical purposes and get medical insurance over the thing, when normal insurance is so cheap and plentiful!
Check with your renters or home owners insurance company and see what they offer. You might be surprised how inexpensive it can be.
For anyone who didn't read the above properly, or can't be bothered going back over it again, I was running Apache on Linux and the Code Red worm infected Microsoft IIS Web Servers.
Wow, WINE is coming along a lot faster than I thought!
How many of those will be things like "iTunes" and how many things like "BitTorrent"...?
I'd suspect Blizzard would pay a license to make World of Warcraft an allowed app. Now bittorrent is perfectly OK!
You're right though, the concept of licensed network traffic is a horrible idea none the less.
ISPs should just provide internet access not police and monitor traffic.
The alternative is that the government ends up policing and monitoring traffic.
Both are bad yes, but one just a teeny bit more so.
Wow, Where do you get one of those 42,000 RPM drives?
At the store two blocks down the road. They are also having a special on a free zero with every purchase!
The last Windows install I did was to XP, about five years ago. It took all afternoon. Linux (at least Mandriva and Suse) are easy to install, Windows is a pain in the ass.
Not to mention your apps, after the OS install is done.
In Debian for example, you can backup a list of installed packages with:
dpkg --get-selections > packages_backup_(date).txt
A restore by package name on a fresh install is as easy as:
dpkg --set-selections packages_backup_(date).txt && apt-get dselect-upgrade
Both easily aliased or scripted.
If your /usr tree is on another disk, generally one just needs to mount it and all your apps are back.
Since windows keeps most of an applications files in the c:\windows\system32 series of folders, plus most of the settings in the registry, you lose those parts of the application and the only way to fix the problem is an app reinstall, adding even more time needed to get a machine back up to a usable state.
Windows is just not designed to be easily backed up and restored in an automated fashion.
Not just fraud but breach of contract. The users accepted the iPhone EULA with the understanding that tethering would work. I smell a class-action suit.
Odd, my iPhone & AT&T contract specifically states tethering is NOT allowed.
Apple also said that tethering is a new feature available in OS 3.0 (Which it is, as in the software to do so is in the firmware), however they also say that as far as the cell carrier goes, AT&T does not offer tethering at all in the US.
Great work scientists! You've cloned an already self-cloning plant! Maybe next you can work on creating flying birds...
Are you making fun of my bird flinging catapult? [eyes node3 suspiciously]
A Windows machine being run by someone who cares about security and updates it regularly won't end up in a botnet either, so I'm not sure what your point is.
If Microsoft's vulnerability announcements from the past are any indication of the future, then your statement can't possibly be proven for another 1-8 years. After all, most exploits in Windows existed for 1-8 years with only Microsoft and the blackhats knowing about it, before they get announced and patched.
So all of the exploits in your current fully patched version of windows will not come to light for another 1-8 years.
Just because they have not yet been fixed or announced does not mean they aren't there
Granted, I can't prove you are right or wrong for that amount of time either... Thus why I say, if the past is any indication of the future... Would YOU trust Microsoft given their past behavior?
Of course both this post and yours has nothing to do with the article.
When an admin chooses to send their root (or administrator for windows) passwords in clear text to everyone in network earshot, they could be running any OS or webserver and it wouldn't at all matter. They gave out the passwords.
I agree completely that these flaws are not shared with other commercial approaches. However, it is clear that many commercial approaches are paying attention (and experts) to solve the problems stated above (with or without success). With OSS, I'm not so sure this is actually the case.
It is a point that there are more commercial interests trying to solve the problem with their software than there are for OSS, but that is only* a problem if you look at just the manufacturer/developers. There are third party consulting services available, whom have on staff experts (or semi-experts) at most any problem you can throw at them.
This service is not cheap, but I've found well worth it. An while most of my work projects don't take that into account as a primary concern, in later conversations, there is nothing I have done that our contractor company can't send someone out to deal with if needed (say if I ever left the company.)
[*] I say only, but realize with commercial software, that is most always the preferred route.
Also, although this is the wrong place to put this comment, I would like to stress the possibility of vandalism/sabotage of certain corporations on OSS.
There is also vandalism/sabotage between a lot of corporations, as well as between OSS projects.
The world of software recovers extremely quickly to such things no matter where they take place.
So, my complaint list:
1. Lack of user-testing
2. Incomplete, incomprehensible, multi-format documentation.
3. Lack of quality control (eg. automated testing)
4. Unannounced drop of support on certain projects.
5. A plethora of linux distributions makes it difficult to choose.
6. Too many configuration formats.
7. The UNIX framework is not mature anymore and because of its design flaws, responds horribly to new demands.
8. Too many different programming languages make it difficult for new talent to drop in or to integrate different approaches.
9. KISS principle is broken too many times.
10. Featuritis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature_creep)
Ironically (Other than #5 and #7 needing rewording) that is the exact list of complaints I have against most of the commercial software packages I have to work with!
If you replace the word 'linux distro' with 'windows release' in #5, and replace 'unix' with the list of 20 frameworks used in windows for #7, then it is an exact match.
Don't you think cops have more to do than fill out paper work on a kindle you lost? Even if it was Stolen out of your back pack, who has time to have cops filling out paperwork for a 300 dollar device?
Just make sure you buy enough ebooks for it so the value is closer to $30000 instead of $300, then it will be over the limit of being worth finding.
Or just say they plan to copy the 24 ebooks you have, and will causes a couple hundred million dollars of damage to the intellectual property economy.
How do you expect a mouse wheel to work without gravity? Strap the little guys down with elastic?
Personally I just place the official scientific-taunting-food-bite to float about 3 inches from where the floating mouse is, sit back, and watch him run!
They are so cute when hungry weightless and scared :D
"They" ... Why do you just through all Police under the same buss with some idiot who needs to be charged with assault and battery?
Just because some one dose something like this means all police think they can and should do it?
Well, obviously not a single cop or anyone working in any position in law enforcement there did ONE DAMN THING about that illegal immoral injustice.
So yes, every last single cop in that police department is morally bankrupt and clearly has NO objections to assault and battery of a 19 year old kid with a broken back, else they would have, I don't know, objected instead of providing excuses.
I mean, if you have proof otherwise, then please put it forward.
My proof however is their very actions, during and after what happened to the kid.
Really good points.
Well, except one:
Or if someone were to ask John McCain to put his hands high above his head. He's not able to do that - should he be tasered?
Yes, I think that would be awesome :D /humor
Just don't forget to post it on youtube for us