Proably a 3 computer network (including mom's laptop) that all run MS.
Ouch, why am I being so mean lately? Has the clueless troll ratio gone up again on/. ?
I don't know if I really can point a finger at any one company and say, they are not bad. But your posting as an AC anyway so I don't really feel too bad about all that.
I will say however that I do sometimes get calls for polls and some orginizations that are somewhat worthy of calling me up. And to he honest these people are not that bad. As has beeen pointed out in this thread and in others that not all telemarkters are bad but they have such a horrable image problem right now that they are being shunned as a whole.
And let me say this after doing much tech support and other such phone related (ISP work mostly) work over the years. I've had to cold call more than my fair share of people and key in not getting a pervierbal cold sholder was to identify who I was and why I was calling. (IE I'm calling to help you! Don't hang up!)
If someone calls me and says right up front something to the effect of "I'm calling to conduct a poll, I'm not selling anything, this poll will take 15 mins (or whatever) of your time, do you wish to participate?" There is a a very good chance that I will say yes. (Important to get my geeky views into those databases!;)
Anyway, I've gone on too long here but I'm just saying that I think that the reason that the orignal post got modded up was because he was trying to be as honest as he could about an indistry that is really undergoing a major change and if they want to survive they really *need* to play by the rules or perish. And so lets let the ones that are trying at least try before we kick them some more. We allready lead in the punch count right now by alot.
Hum, I've lived in Fla for a while now and have been going out to bars down here since I turned 21. (And even a little before that.)
I've never seen this anywhere that I've been and that includes North Fla, North Centeral Fla, Centeral Fla, and most points inbetween.
Maybe this is just a South Fla kinda thing but I even go diveing down there sometimes and have not seen it. (Granted I don't go down there as often as I am around the other places mentioned but still.)
I've waited more tables than I care to remember and have used many many pens.
At one point I had a gold Cross that I used when I worked at a 4 star italian restraunt but it eventually got thrashed pretty good. After that I just went back to the good ol Bic Blue's.
They write great, can be used to punch open boxes and other things with no guilt, when you lose one/it goes dead/vanishes into someone elses hands you simply pull out your box and get a new one.
Boy, mods must be smoking some good stuff today. For those who don't speak troll, I'll try to translate a bit.
I don't use Linux because it's an unneccessary pain in the ass to do things with it. I use Win2K Pro. However, all the software running the server components are Open Source (Apache, GuildFTPd) or just well respected freeware like Mercury Mail.
I'm a clueless noob who maybe installed Mandrake once but when I realized that I might actually have to have a clue on how computers really work I went back to windows. Windows is so pretty.
Using Apache just demonstrates what a great product Apache is. It has nothing to do with Linux. I'm not going to abandon the simplicity and stability of Win2K just because Apache can faithfully serve up HTTP requests.
Win2K is ereet. I'm ereet for knowing it. Unless you know how to, cough, admin Win2k your a loozer.
Nobody is debating that IIS is feature bloated hacker friendly piece of garbage. But that has nothing to do with Windows.
I show my total ignorance again because Windows and IIS come from the same company, IIS can't be run on anything *but* Windows, and not to mention if say a court that convited MS for being a monopoly tried to make them seperate them they would manufactor evidence to say that the two products are so "tied in" that they can't be seperated.
I have better things to do with my time (like actually building up the web-site) than dicking around with an OS.
Ahhh, the truth comes out. I'm really just a webmonkey. The scary things that computers do make me cry so I would much perfer to tinker with my nice little web page.
The high quality of one open source product has zero to do with the quality of another.
And of course the high quality, cough cough!, of MS producs have nothing to do with the oh so high quality of other MS products. Oh, and Windows is cool. So is IIS and Outlook. And don't you forget it!
Wow, that was harsh even for me. Ah well, I'm bored and that was so begging for it.
Know that I'm posting late here but after thinking about it, I mean the "why" part of why RMS does all that he does.
And yeah, I'm aware of why he says what he does. But going back a little more, before he even did it why would he even think to do it.
Around 20 years ago Unix was the big iron, PCs were still expensive and not nearly as useful as what we take for granted today. Being able to code in a high level (not ASM/Machine code...and yeah ASM is even higher than machine because you can keep the source for it but lets be real; c is/was a major improvement. uhm wasn't it?;) and keep the source around make programming much easier when your working with large projects. You can review your source and make changes. Thanks to Unix you can link of course so you want to keep track of those libs too.
What I'm saying is that there is a boom of people who are writing all sorts of cool things in the late 70's early 80's. At that point there was that good old 70's "Public Domain" idea where code was released for "free". But how free was it? If you made money from that code, or even the binary's, did you have to pay money back to the author? When an author sued did they have any protection with that lisance. And mostly, because you wern't about to have a compiler on your 80's computer unless you were a total geek you had to release binarys.
But those cool projects for the total geeks who were running cutting edge minix on some PCs and or had access to the big iron were out there and wanted to write cool stuff. Not to mention the whole legon of hobbyists who have been buying these little PCs since they came out. So there you are, you want projects that get started to be protected and grow. You love code yourself so you decide that the 1st thing to do obviously is make a free compiler.
And the great thing, if your right, is that others will do the same. They will write code to support your project, using your free compiler of course, but keep their code open too.
Oh, but before that you have to decide how you want to lisance that compiler. Since your going to be releaseing the source and...lets face it...pretty much tell people to compile it on their own and help you fix it if there are any bugs, you want to protect this creation and in a way that keeps with the spirit of keeping the code open for the good of the code. Thus, is born the GPL.
So I know Linus is the engineer in this mix, but I don't think we should ever forget that RMS is really an engineer at heart too, he just happens to be a really really loud one.
Now my understanding of this planet is limited to watching a goodly bit of Nova/TLC/some collage geology but what has always struck me is the fact that this planet is not a static thing.
It's changing and has been changing for millions of years now. Hell, the core is not even cooled! And yet whenever we find something that has changed or, more likely, figure out that something is changing everyone freaks out.
And part of that is understandable, we are at a point in time in our personal history (Which everyone should keep in mind is oh so very short.) that we have everything the way we kind of want it. (In a geological sence and mostly because we just happened to adapt during this current timeframe.) So change is a bad thing(tm). But really, while we have contributed to some of the obvious change and will continue to do so we must understand that even without any of our "help" that this plant will change.
At best right now I think that all that really should be happening is a constant re-evaulation of what we call the "earth" based on what our current knowladge is. To say anything more than that is imo pure speculation because this ball of water and rock has been doing a lot more than we know about right now and will continue to do so even if we cease to exist upon it.
I understand that without a crime there can be no test of a law due to what you have just established. Or to put it another way, without a party that has been wronged there can be no case that can be brought before the high court to rule upon.
Ok, right. So what we are saying here is that, its ok to pass laws that aren't legal until the wrong someone. And then when they get wronged they have to go though the *whole* court system before they finally get ruled on and then maybe if your lucky the high court will hear your case vs the law and rule against it thus striking down a law that never should have been enacted in the 1st place.
All of that takes time, money, and much much effort. But hey, it's ok because you can site some reference in the original constitution (Where I'm quite sure the founder fathers envisioned it that way.) to where that makes it so.
Well, all I'm saying is I call shenanigans on that clause and hello to a way to review laws that effect, lets face it, the whole gawd damn world before we enact them.
In my post I specificly mentioned the Bill of Rights. If that does not have something to do with, "The province of the court is solely to decide the rights of individuals." (Marbury v. Madison.) then I don't know what does.
I swear, there needs to be a check after each law is passed such that it is even legal!
How many laws would we have today if they were checked before they were put into action by the high court of the land. Just even for that nasty bill of rights kinda deal.
...I just get the feeling that Linus/RMS/GNU Community's definition of DRM or "Trusted Computing" is a little diffrent than say, oh I dunno dancing monkey boy's.
I actually broke a/. trend and went and RTA before posting here.
Now I can understand the *nix gamers lament. I've considered switching my main desktops over to linux for many reasons that we all know and have disussed here for years now. I still have not and yeah, it's mostly because of the games.
And yeah oh no I must not be a real Linux/GNU/OSS person because there are games for linux! Well yeah, duh, but to be quite frank they are not even in the same league with the sheer number of games that you can play on a Win32 boxen, let alone if you want to, gasp, pick what you can play.
But back to my point, this guy says he wants games on his *nix boxen but instead he just figures that buying a console is going to be better!? Excuse me? An XBox no less?!
I'm sorry, but this just set of my BS meter over the top. Yeah, consoles are gaming platforms and for people that use them it's cool. But are they any better than using a proprietary OS? And on top of that a proprietary console from MS?
Take it another level that thoughout history mankind has been expanding. And thoughout it we have pretty much reproduced, killed (either ourselfs or other things), grew, and thought in that order.
Growth always seems to always come before thought. I mean we are still even reproducing or killing even before we get to growth, what little time we have left for thought is like enought to get us were we are now. With more ways to kill ourselfs than ways to advance ourselfs. I mean I'm not trying to be too negative here, there is a lot of good that we as a people have done but whenever there is a new element it will mostly carry sex, ways that it can be used to kill (Almost kind of amuseing that the inet was, however, setup to provide something in case we try to kill everything.), a lot of growth, and then finally some thought.
I can see the immediate appeal of this kind of puerile action, but in the end you're just sinking to the telemarketers' level.
Ok, so here your basicly saying that what the people who called the telemarketing group did basicly the same thing that the telemarketing group did, pick up a phone and call someone. Because thats what the telemarketers say, we are just calling you.
Dave has interfered with these people's ability to make a living.
You I could come back with something on this but Dave allready did it so well, I'll just quote him: "Of course, you could use pretty much the same reasoning to argue that laws against mugging cause unemployment among muggers," he wrote. "But that would be unfair. Muggers rarely intrude into your home."
Do the ends justify the means? No. This is the kind of dangerous thinking that brings abortion clinic bombings, the ongoing fighting between northern and southern Ireland, the danger in the Middle East, and countless other bloodbaths.
You go from talking about ends justfying means, and your argument there is weak at best, to bloodbaths? Unless someone was beaten over the head with a phone I don't think any blood has been spilled here.
Dave's had his fun and done his damage.
Ahhh, the "damage". Well again back to the orignal point we basicly now have a law that says that if you sign up for the National Do-Not-Call list that these people can't call you. Such as it is you could then argue that that law is doing "damage" to them. I mean it will, hopefully, reduce the number of calls that a "business" like this one can make and thus force it to lay off or close up shop totally. But, we as a people have decided that we want to be able to control who calls our phones that *we pay for*. And on top of all that, this company has said that it's unconstutional for such a law to exist! Now IANAL, much less a consitintuonal scholar but if any of these lowlifes could please point out to me where the right to protect a buissness model exists I'll be glad to take my words back. Such as it is however that is simply not the case.
Laugh if you must, but sit back and don't make this any worse than it already is!
I did laugh, thank you. How my "sitting back" when I did it made it worse I'm still a little confused about.
Mostly because I'm sure there are no real geeks working for SCO anymore. None that are worth a damn proably.
I invision that building being a bunch of yes men and raid attack lawers who have the combigned morals of Stalin, Goering, and Ghengis Kahn all rolled up into one.
Oh, you said greek! Well, what I said still holds true.
Warez sites attempted to use a bit of legal mumbo jumbo that basically says "by entering this site you agree not to sue." I don't believe that's ever held up in court.
Typically, and no I would never goto a warez site, nope not me, not ever, I think that the bits of legal mumbo jumbo in question are mostly to the effect of saying that if you are a law enforment officer you must state so right now. And, while IANAL, I do beileve the courts still do enforce this right.
Now of course how that would apply a warez site in general is beyond me. I mean I know that if I'm doing something that might be illegal and I ask if the person who I am dealing with is a law enforcement officer and they deny it, even if they are undercover, I can claim intrapment. But again, how this would apply to a site/online service is really beyond me and i've gone on way too long about this anyway.
Much like a troll who once spammed threads IBM is making headway in getting it's karma back in line.
I applaud IBM these days for all it has done but don't forget what it was like back in the early days when IBM was that big evil co that invented the term FUD and tried to crush anything that even remotely threatened it.
Keep it up IBM and you'll get that Karma Bonus and realize that having positive karma is a good thing.
Imagine if everyone had been using VOIP and there were no self-powered phone network? I hope you have a ham radio license!
Well that and a generator.
One of the nice things about POTS is the fact that it's self powered. Even though with the fact that everyone uses cordless phones and have thus forgotten that phones don't really require outside power it is a nice thing during a power outage to be able to plug in a standard phone and get a dial tone.
The infastructure to provide that kind of fallback during a power outage has a long way to go before it can compete with POTS simply because of that fact.
Back in the day when I worked for this little sub shop we had one video game. They would normally swap them out every now and then and so we never got too annoyed with them but this one time they brought in some horrable one.
We bashed on it and told the kids that came in to play it to beat the crap out of it but the sucker refused to die. So, I took it upon myself to dump a large (32 oz. if I remember correctly) of Coke into it's air vents on the top of the machine. It took a while, but that did the trick all right.
The owners of the shop of course asked us all about what happened and we said, of course, "Those damn kids! We told them not to put their drinks up there." The top of the cabinet in question had no less than a 30 degree angle and so placeing a drink up there was pretty much out of the question. I wonder if they knew I was lying?;)
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Proably a 3 computer network (including mom's laptop) that all run MS. Ouch, why am I being so mean lately? Has the clueless troll ratio gone up again on
I don't know if I really can point a finger at any one company and say, they are not bad. But your posting as an AC anyway so I don't really feel too bad about all that.
;)
I will say however that I do sometimes get calls for polls and some orginizations that are somewhat worthy of calling me up. And to he honest these people are not that bad. As has beeen pointed out in this thread and in others that not all telemarkters are bad but they have such a horrable image problem right now that they are being shunned as a whole.
And let me say this after doing much tech support and other such phone related (ISP work mostly) work over the years. I've had to cold call more than my fair share of people and key in not getting a pervierbal cold sholder was to identify who I was and why I was calling. (IE I'm calling to help you! Don't hang up!)
If someone calls me and says right up front something to the effect of "I'm calling to conduct a poll, I'm not selling anything, this poll will take 15 mins (or whatever) of your time, do you wish to participate?" There is a a very good chance that I will say yes. (Important to get my geeky views into those databases!
Anyway, I've gone on too long here but I'm just saying that I think that the reason that the orignal post got modded up was because he was trying to be as honest as he could about an indistry that is really undergoing a major change and if they want to survive they really *need* to play by the rules or perish. And so lets let the ones that are trying at least try before we kick them some more. We allready lead in the punch count right now by alot.
Hum, I've lived in Fla for a while now and have been going out to bars down here since I turned 21. (And even a little before that.)
I've never seen this anywhere that I've been and that includes North Fla, North Centeral Fla, Centeral Fla, and most points inbetween.
Maybe this is just a South Fla kinda thing but I even go diveing down there sometimes and have not seen it. (Granted I don't go down there as often as I am around the other places mentioned but still.)
I've waited more tables than I care to remember and have used many many pens.
At one point I had a gold Cross that I used when I worked at a 4 star italian restraunt but it eventually got thrashed pretty good. After that I just went back to the good ol Bic Blue's.
They write great, can be used to punch open boxes and other things with no guilt, when you lose one/it goes dead/vanishes into someone elses hands you simply pull out your box and get a new one.
Yeah.
You've got a screwed up set of priorities.
Well said.
Yeah, I took it a bit far (which I admitted), but when you see comments like:
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"Nobody is debating that IIS is feature bloated hacker friendly piece of garbage. But that has nothing to do with Windows."
So sorry, that kind of bs needs to be stoped in it's tracks. The courts may let MS get away with such FUD but I'm not gonna let it happen on
Boy, mods must be smoking some good stuff today. For those who don't speak troll, I'll try to translate a bit.
I don't use Linux because it's an unneccessary pain in the ass to do things with it. I use Win2K Pro. However, all the software running the server components are Open Source (Apache, GuildFTPd) or just well respected freeware like Mercury Mail.
I'm a clueless noob who maybe installed Mandrake once but when I realized that I might actually have to have a clue on how computers really work I went back to windows. Windows is so pretty.
Using Apache just demonstrates what a great product Apache is. It has nothing to do with Linux. I'm not going to abandon the simplicity and stability of Win2K just because Apache can faithfully serve up HTTP requests.
Win2K is ereet. I'm ereet for knowing it. Unless you know how to, cough, admin Win2k your a loozer.
Nobody is debating that IIS is feature bloated hacker friendly piece of garbage. But that has nothing to do with Windows.
I show my total ignorance again because Windows and IIS come from the same company, IIS can't be run on anything *but* Windows, and not to mention if say a court that convited MS for being a monopoly tried to make them seperate them they would manufactor evidence to say that the two products are so "tied in" that they can't be seperated.
I have better things to do with my time (like actually building up the web-site) than dicking around with an OS.
Ahhh, the truth comes out. I'm really just a webmonkey. The scary things that computers do make me cry so I would much perfer to tinker with my nice little web page.
The high quality of one open source product has zero to do with the quality of another.
And of course the high quality, cough cough!, of MS producs have nothing to do with the oh so high quality of other MS products. Oh, and Windows is cool. So is IIS and Outlook. And don't you forget it!
Wow, that was harsh even for me. Ah well, I'm bored and that was so begging for it.
Know that I'm posting late here but after thinking about it, I mean the "why" part of why RMS does all that he does.
;) and keep the source around make programming much easier when your working with large projects. You can review your source and make changes. Thanks to Unix you can link of course so you want to keep track of those libs too.
And yeah, I'm aware of why he says what he does. But going back a little more, before he even did it why would he even think to do it.
Around 20 years ago Unix was the big iron, PCs were still expensive and not nearly as useful as what we take for granted today. Being able to code in a high level (not ASM/Machine code...and yeah ASM is even higher than machine because you can keep the source for it but lets be real; c is/was a major improvement. uhm wasn't it?
What I'm saying is that there is a boom of people who are writing all sorts of cool things in the late 70's early 80's. At that point there was that good old 70's "Public Domain" idea where code was released for "free". But how free was it? If you made money from that code, or even the binary's, did you have to pay money back to the author? When an author sued did they have any protection with that lisance. And mostly, because you wern't about to have a compiler on your 80's computer unless you were a total geek you had to release binarys.
But those cool projects for the total geeks who were running cutting edge minix on some PCs and or had access to the big iron were out there and wanted to write cool stuff. Not to mention the whole legon of hobbyists who have been buying these little PCs since they came out. So there you are, you want projects that get started to be protected and grow. You love code yourself so you decide that the 1st thing to do obviously is make a free compiler.
And the great thing, if your right, is that others will do the same. They will write code to support your project, using your free compiler of course, but keep their code open too.
Oh, but before that you have to decide how you want to lisance that compiler. Since your going to be releaseing the source and...lets face it...pretty much tell people to compile it on their own and help you fix it if there are any bugs, you want to protect this creation and in a way that keeps with the spirit of keeping the code open for the good of the code. Thus, is born the GPL.
So I know Linus is the engineer in this mix, but I don't think we should ever forget that RMS is really an engineer at heart too, he just happens to be a really really loud one.
Some post earlyer about TCP/IP over Bongo Drumbs?
Expermenting with VOIP is good and all but...
Now my understanding of this planet is limited to watching a goodly bit of Nova/TLC/some collage geology but what has always struck me is the fact that this planet is not a static thing.
It's changing and has been changing for millions of years now. Hell, the core is not even cooled! And yet whenever we find something that has changed or, more likely, figure out that something is changing everyone freaks out.
And part of that is understandable, we are at a point in time in our personal history (Which everyone should keep in mind is oh so very short.) that we have everything the way we kind of want it. (In a geological sence and mostly because we just happened to adapt during this current timeframe.) So change is a bad thing(tm). But really, while we have contributed to some of the obvious change and will continue to do so we must understand that even without any of our "help" that this plant will change.
At best right now I think that all that really should be happening is a constant re-evaulation of what we call the "earth" based on what our current knowladge is. To say anything more than that is imo pure speculation because this ball of water and rock has been doing a lot more than we know about right now and will continue to do so even if we cease to exist upon it.
The DMCA.
I understand that without a crime there can be no test of a law due to what you have just established. Or to put it another way, without a party that has been wronged there can be no case that can be brought before the high court to rule upon.
Ok, right. So what we are saying here is that, its ok to pass laws that aren't legal until the wrong someone. And then when they get wronged they have to go though the *whole* court system before they finally get ruled on and then maybe if your lucky the high court will hear your case vs the law and rule against it thus striking down a law that never should have been enacted in the 1st place.
All of that takes time, money, and much much effort. But hey, it's ok because you can site some reference in the original constitution (Where I'm quite sure the founder fathers envisioned it that way.) to where that makes it so.
Well, all I'm saying is I call shenanigans on that clause and hello to a way to review laws that effect, lets face it, the whole gawd damn world before we enact them.
In my post I specificly mentioned the Bill of Rights. If that does not have something to do with, "The province of the court is solely to decide the rights of individuals." (Marbury v. Madison.) then I don't know what does.
I swear, there needs to be a check after each law is passed such that it is even legal!
How many laws would we have today if they were checked before they were put into action by the high court of the land. Just even for that nasty bill of rights kinda deal.
Talk about checks and balances.
...I just get the feeling that Linus/RMS/GNU Community's definition of DRM or "Trusted Computing" is a little diffrent than say, oh I dunno dancing monkey boy's.
I actually broke a /. trend and went and RTA before posting here.
Now I can understand the *nix gamers lament. I've considered switching my main desktops over to linux for many reasons that we all know and have disussed here for years now. I still have not and yeah, it's mostly because of the games.
And yeah oh no I must not be a real Linux/GNU/OSS person because there are games for linux! Well yeah, duh, but to be quite frank they are not even in the same league with the sheer number of games that you can play on a Win32 boxen, let alone if you want to, gasp, pick what you can play.
But back to my point, this guy says he wants games on his *nix boxen but instead he just figures that buying a console is going to be better!? Excuse me? An XBox no less?!
I'm sorry, but this just set of my BS meter over the top. Yeah, consoles are gaming platforms and for people that use them it's cool. But are they any better than using a proprietary OS? And on top of that a proprietary console from MS?
I'm sorry, the whole artical is -1 Flamebait.
Take it another level that thoughout history mankind has been expanding. And thoughout it we have pretty much reproduced, killed (either ourselfs or other things), grew, and thought in that order.
Growth always seems to always come before thought. I mean we are still even reproducing or killing even before we get to growth, what little time we have left for thought is like enought to get us were we are now. With more ways to kill ourselfs than ways to advance ourselfs. I mean I'm not trying to be too negative here, there is a lot of good that we as a people have done but whenever there is a new element it will mostly carry sex, ways that it can be used to kill (Almost kind of amuseing that the inet was, however, setup to provide something in case we try to kill everything.), a lot of growth, and then finally some thought.
My, what a crafty troll. I think I'll bite.
I can see the immediate appeal of this kind of puerile action, but in the end you're just sinking to the telemarketers' level.
Ok, so here your basicly saying that what the people who called the telemarketing group did basicly the same thing that the telemarketing group did, pick up a phone and call someone. Because thats what the telemarketers say, we are just calling you.
Dave has interfered with these people's ability to make a living.
You I could come back with something on this but Dave allready did it so well, I'll just quote him: "Of course, you could use pretty much the same reasoning to argue that laws against mugging cause unemployment among muggers," he wrote. "But that would be unfair. Muggers rarely intrude into your home."
Do the ends justify the means? No. This is the kind of dangerous thinking that brings abortion clinic bombings, the ongoing fighting between northern and southern Ireland, the danger in the Middle East, and countless other bloodbaths.
You go from talking about ends justfying means, and your argument there is weak at best, to bloodbaths? Unless someone was beaten over the head with a phone I don't think any blood has been spilled here.
Dave's had his fun and done his damage.
Ahhh, the "damage". Well again back to the orignal point we basicly now have a law that says that if you sign up for the National Do-Not-Call list that these people can't call you. Such as it is you could then argue that that law is doing "damage" to them. I mean it will, hopefully, reduce the number of calls that a "business" like this one can make and thus force it to lay off or close up shop totally. But, we as a people have decided that we want to be able to control who calls our phones that *we pay for*. And on top of all that, this company has said that it's unconstutional for such a law to exist! Now IANAL, much less a consitintuonal scholar but if any of these lowlifes could please point out to me where the right to protect a buissness model exists I'll be glad to take my words back. Such as it is however that is simply not the case.
Laugh if you must, but sit back and don't make this any worse than it already is!
I did laugh, thank you. How my "sitting back" when I did it made it worse I'm still a little confused about.
Mostly because I'm sure there are no real geeks working for SCO anymore. None that are worth a damn proably.
I invision that building being a bunch of yes men and raid attack lawers who have the combigned morals of Stalin, Goering, and Ghengis Kahn all rolled up into one.
Oh, you said greek! Well, what I said still holds true.
Warez sites attempted to use a bit of legal mumbo jumbo that basically says "by entering this site you agree not to sue." I don't believe that's ever held up in court.
Typically, and no I would never goto a warez site, nope not me, not ever, I think that the bits of legal mumbo jumbo in question are mostly to the effect of saying that if you are a law enforment officer you must state so right now. And, while IANAL, I do beileve the courts still do enforce this right.
Now of course how that would apply a warez site in general is beyond me. I mean I know that if I'm doing something that might be illegal and I ask if the person who I am dealing with is a law enforcement officer and they deny it, even if they are undercover, I can claim intrapment. But again, how this would apply to a site/online service is really beyond me and i've gone on way too long about this anyway.
These people are playing dirty ball.
+1 No Shit
Much like a troll who once spammed threads IBM is making headway in getting it's karma back in line.
I applaud IBM these days for all it has done but don't forget what it was like back in the early days when IBM was that big evil co that invented the term FUD and tried to crush anything that even remotely threatened it.
Keep it up IBM and you'll get that Karma Bonus and realize that having positive karma is a good thing.
Imagine if everyone had been using VOIP and there were no self-powered phone network? I hope you have a ham radio license!
Well that and a generator.
One of the nice things about POTS is the fact that it's self powered. Even though with the fact that everyone uses cordless phones and have thus forgotten that phones don't really require outside power it is a nice thing during a power outage to be able to plug in a standard phone and get a dial tone.
The infastructure to provide that kind of fallback during a power outage has a long way to go before it can compete with POTS simply because of that fact.
Heh.
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Back in the day when I worked for this little sub shop we had one video game. They would normally swap them out every now and then and so we never got too annoyed with them but this one time they brought in some horrable one.
We bashed on it and told the kids that came in to play it to beat the crap out of it but the sucker refused to die. So, I took it upon myself to dump a large (32 oz. if I remember correctly) of Coke into it's air vents on the top of the machine. It took a while, but that did the trick all right.
The owners of the shop of course asked us all about what happened and we said, of course, "Those damn kids! We told them not to put their drinks up there." The top of the cabinet in question had no less than a 30 degree angle and so placeing a drink up there was pretty much out of the question. I wonder if they knew I was lying?
Fire! Fire! Fire!