A lot of supporting points have been made regarding these doubts, but I believe that XM Radio (or something like it) has a good chance of putting digital music into ever home, car, and office.
I've never seen IIS turned on by default on a Win2K Pro box. It's not even checked by default during a custom installation. Now, maybe on a server is is different, but I don't think the average idiot customer is using win2K sever. The real problem is clueless MCSE's who don't keep their systems up to date (read: I have many M$ boxes hit with the default.ida and have never been affected).
I will agree with you, however, that Office's security is a joke, and I personally refuse to install Office or Outlook on any of my personal machines. This, however, that all M$ software is deficient.
Mod me as a troll, but that's what I'm replying to. What if I said:
GNULinux based solutions just don't work. Just look at/., it's had more downtime than win3.1 recently. Apache/Perl/MySQL has been screwing up so often.
Of course, most of us are smart enough to know that a new codebase is going to be error prone, and/.'s difficulties have nothing to do with the rock-solid stability of Apache. Same as the Russian situation with MSSQL sever. But, alas, it was M$ bashing, so the post got modded up.
If MS's "proprietary software" doesn't work, why are there many successful technological solutions working wonderfully (source: personal and anecdotal evidence)?
Well, the 1.4Ghz is actually closer to a 1.8 then a 1.7 performance wise. My point is that it's NOT a Porshce because a Porsche is more than 1/10th of a second faster than a BMW on a 0-60. Now, if you wanted to spend money, you could try a dual Xeon 1.7ghz, or a Dual Athlon 1.2Ghz. In which case Anandtech.com will tell you that they are moving all their Xeon's to the Athlon MP's because they scale better for half the price.
Maybe the Northwood will show AMD who's boss - and if so, I'll go for it when I need to upgrade. Right now, my $95 1.2Ghz Athlon is out rendering a low-stock $266 1.8Ghz P4 in 3DSMax, and only suffers a 1-2% speed loss in photoshop.
So, if you want to buy the fastest overall chip, then wait and buy the 2.2Ghz P4. If you want to be smart about it, stick with the new P3's or even better the Athlon's.
Hogwash. The EFF and it's lawyers have made a major impact on multiple electronic rights issues. Read up on the facts before posting uneducated opinions as an anonymous coward.
To save you - the busy/. reader - time, I've compiled a summary of posts:
The DMCA violates free speech. It's bad.
There's no excuse for piracy.
Hey, if I want to copy my CD to my MP3 player that's MY business (read: FAIR USE).
Let's DO something instead of talking about it. Click here[some.gov] to write your congressmen! Click here[eff.org] to donate your tax rebate to the EFF.
Our society views "hackers" as if they where "rapists". How ignorant!
The average person doesn't even know what the DMCA is, nor do they care.
Oh ya, then why has [3 big new agency links] been reporting it?
They will when they buy their error-encoded CD and find out they can't play it in their computer.
IANAL, but section i of paragraph j states [rubbish]. What this seems to say is that [attempt to decipher rubbish].
I most definatly was not being bench-selective in the sense that I strictly pointed out that there where other benchmarks with other results. I just found it funny that it's still not a "cut and dry accross the board" faster performing chip.
The issue is, although most benchmarks where held by the P4, the $400 or nearly 380% price increase compared to a 2-5% performance increase on the more broad benchmarks (read: not Quake) makes the "it wins most benchmarks" point moot. Nevertheless, the P4 is a technology that is specifically designed to meet the marketing demands of the "Ghz" ratings, and performance is secondary. This is disgusting. Now, the new P3 is a good chip - albiet overpriced. I'd rather have one of those than a P4. And since the current P4 architecture is being phased out for the Whillimate's, I see no reason in buying Intel right now - just wait, or go AMD. Intel may still come out on top, just not with thier current offering.
You make good points. Although this bootloader thing is disconcerning, the reality is, I've triple booted Win2K/RHLinux/BeOS (R5), and the ease of install and hardware (especially video and sound) went from left to right - at least RH Linux PnP'd my 3COM 905c so I could attempt to download video and sound drivers. With BeOS, it was a bit of a PITA. And please don't say I'm an "idiot if I couldn't get it working." Please, the bottom line is, I stuck my win2K disk in, and
OT: I know it's probably not the OS and more code related, but/. has had a lot more down time recently - not doing good for the whole Linux/MySQL/Perl movement:(.
I didn't make any "overgeneralized" statement in my post - read it. I didn't write the subject's topic "RE: AMD has the better chip", just the "RE:" which refers that I am replying to that thread (read: your post has the same subject). First, try to understand my point. What I said was, in Unreal Tournament (not to mention Serious Sam, and 3DStudio MAX) the Athlon 1.4ghz is still faster. I didn't say, "because of the Unreal benchamarks AMD makes a better chip". Also, I said that aside from Quake, the P4 is only marginally faster. This is based on a whole gauntlet of benchmarks. Only on a few programs is the increase in speed significant (read: maybe noticeable). My point was, the chip still isn't faster at everything (see also: "mhz myth"), and where it is faster, it's not worth the $400.
Actually, according to Firingsquad, if you're an unreal player, this tells us that the AMD 1.4ghz is STILL faster than the latest P4 offering! Aside from Quake, the P4 2ghz is only marginally faster. The 2.24ghz (OC'd) does take a bit more of a lead. So, for only $400 extra you can get 10% speed increase on a FEW programs!
It's stupid that people think they can break copyright laws and be set free by the open source fairy. I'm pretty sure this will get modded down as Flaimbait...
... And you should. First off all the software on my machine is LEGIT and PURCHASED because I believe in copyright. Please calm down and rationalize the situation. If I buy a CD, I have every right to put the CD's contents in my Car's MP3 player. I'm not stealing! If the CD's contents are encrypted, I have the right to "circumvent the technological measures" to convert it to MP3 for my car. This is not stealing.
The free speech aspect of this is the "circumvention measure" (downloadable executable, or otherwise) that allows me to listen to my CD in my car's MP3 player. The pirating of the CD itself it NOT free speech, and is not what we are fighting for.
DirectX is so hard to program in, so clunky to use...
Although I'm a fan of OpenGL, it's way to harsh to say that DirectX is clunky. It's actually quite brilliant (albeit some quirks), hence why so many predict that a lot of developers will LOVE developing for the X-BOX. One other thing to consider about DirectX, is that it's an all encompassing API which handles not only 3D accelorators, but 2D display, input devices, 3D and standard sound, and so on.
Intel plans on releasing a chipset that supports DDR DRAM within a month or so ANYWAY, so whats the point of this fight? Does Intel make MORE money licensing the chipsets that use their processors then the processors themselves?
To me, at least, I think it's just that Intel got a little egg on their face and is now trying to use their muscle to halt it.
PLEASE read the article! The issue has nothing to do with the speed of DDR SDRAM, it has to do with the fact that VIA supposedly doesn't have the proper licensing from Intel, and there could be legal battles. This is a purely legal/business issue, not a technical one.
You are absolutly right. MS's JVM is what is crippled (doesn't even support 1.2 let alone 1.3) due to legal issues (whoes fault is irrelevant). So, Microsoft decides to GIVE THE CONSUMER A CHOICE and let them use a THIRD PARTY NON-MS JVM and now we whine about it? If they didn't, we'd be grumbling about how it's using it's monopolistic powers to force it's own JVM on the industry.
But consider what it would take for you to move from a MS operating system to a competitor...
* You've paid $$$ for lots of MS-only software: will it all run?
Which was a choice we all made (remember, MAC's used to have more software availble for them then PC's).
* If not, how will you read/edit all your existing files?
What existing files? My XML or HTML files? My.txt files? My eudora email files? My PSD/GIF/JPG/PNG files? I've been using MS OS's for 12 years and I could move all of my files over to a MAC and potentially Linux with no problem at all. It's the consumer's choice to use proprietary file formats (read: vendor lock-in), not Microsoft's.
I'm pretty sure (IANA Java Expert) EJB's have access to the session object (at least under Allaire's JRUN server). JRUN can store session in a JDBC datastore, giving access to any Bean on your network.
This is where.NET takes the lead. There are multiple ways that.NET maintains state..NET comes with a "session service", that allows a cluster of machines to act as session servers. It also allows OLEDB or ODBC compliant datastores to host sessions as well. It can also (with a performance hit if your page is large) maintain state between pages via ungodly URL's or hidden form variables - all behind the scenes of a developer.
I have a hard time believing that a Quadro Setup can render something in.4 of a sec that their SGI setup takes 90mins to do.
You have a point, but it's not as crazy as you think. Although SGI's have 3D acceloration (as our gaming machines do), this is used for the actuall modelling. The server farms use don't use the video card to render (they can't for multiple reasons). Consider this: try playing Quake 3 on a 1ghz Athlon in Software mode (if you can). It looks like crap and runs sloooow. Put a geforce 3 in it, and you can get a 100x speed boost (ambiguous number to make a point). This is because the rendering get's done in the hardware.
The only problem with this, is that when you move to hardware acceloration, you can't use the super complex rendering engine that they used to render the movie. Therefore, the visual quality can't possibly be as good.
One final example: go buy a mega PRO 3D card that accelorates the modeling in 3DSMax. Ask your vender if the card will also speed up the rendering. They will tell you as I have - the rendering can't use hardware acceleration! Therefore, the machine with the GF3 has a HUGE advantage, albeit at a visual quality loss.
Am I the only one failing to grasp the importance of Web Services?
The concept behind a web service has less to do with "metered services", and more to do with managed code (like EJB's). Internally for my Fortune 1000 corporation, I can share the "login authentication code" amongs 10 seperate applications without the applications needing the compiled Servlet or DLL on the machine itself. Moreover, applications like Microsoft Passport (or similar solutions) can be seamlessly integrated into non-Microsoft sites. Both of these scenarios promote incredible Code Reuse, at the expense of the overhead caused by HTTP and XML serialization.
Both EJB's and.NET Web Services are great for certain applications (anything can be overused). I've seen a lot of PHP, ASP/COM, and Cold Fusion code that could have been so much easier to maintain if they would have stuck some of the core logic into a "distributed object model" of some sort.
It seems to me that good coders with PHP and apache knowledge seem to be able to pull a better magic than all the Javas and dotNets of this world.
It's really all about the bigger picture. Sure, some little site that uses a couple of include files and global variables can be managed fine by PHP, but it's all about scalability in terms of the applications power and complexity. Now, I'm not saying PHP or CF can't do these things - they can. It just get's to be more of a kludge then a solution as the project requirements get larger ).
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A lot of supporting points have been made regarding these doubts, but I believe that XM Radio (or something like it) has a good chance of putting digital music into ever home, car, and office.
I've never seen IIS turned on by default on a Win2K Pro box. It's not even checked by default during a custom installation. Now, maybe on a server is is different, but I don't think the average idiot customer is using win2K sever. The real problem is clueless MCSE's who don't keep their systems up to date (read: I have many M$ boxes hit with the default.ida and have never been affected).
I will agree with you, however, that Office's security is a joke, and I personally refuse to install Office or Outlook on any of my personal machines. This, however, that all M$ software is deficient.
Mod me as a troll, but that's what I'm replying to. What if I said:
/., it's had more downtime than win3.1 recently. Apache/Perl/MySQL has been screwing up so often.
/.'s difficulties have nothing to do with the rock-solid stability of Apache. Same as the Russian situation with MSSQL sever. But, alas, it was M$ bashing, so the post got modded up.
GNULinux based solutions just don't work. Just look at
Of course, most of us are smart enough to know that a new codebase is going to be error prone, and
If MS's "proprietary software" doesn't work, why are there many successful technological solutions working wonderfully (source: personal and anecdotal evidence)?
You're right - I got the Intel stuff backwards.
Well, the 1.4Ghz is actually closer to a 1.8 then a 1.7 performance wise. My point is that it's NOT a Porshce because a Porsche is more than 1/10th of a second faster than a BMW on a 0-60. Now, if you wanted to spend money, you could try a dual Xeon 1.7ghz, or a Dual Athlon 1.2Ghz. In which case Anandtech.com will tell you that they are moving all their Xeon's to the Athlon MP's because they scale better for half the price.
Maybe the Northwood will show AMD who's boss - and if so, I'll go for it when I need to upgrade. Right now, my $95 1.2Ghz Athlon is out rendering a low-stock $266 1.8Ghz P4 in 3DSMax, and only suffers a 1-2% speed loss in photoshop.
So, if you want to buy the fastest overall chip, then wait and buy the 2.2Ghz P4. If you want to be smart about it, stick with the new P3's or even better the Athlon's.
Hogwash. The EFF and it's lawyers have made a major impact on multiple electronic rights issues. Read up on the facts before posting uneducated opinions as an anonymous coward.
I know it's not much, but my $300 just got sent to the EFF. What a small sacrifice in light of what's at stake for Dmitry, and our freedom.
Well, obviously it's a personal decision.
I most definatly was not being bench-selective in the sense that I strictly pointed out that there where other benchmarks with other results. I just found it funny that it's still not a "cut and dry accross the board" faster performing chip.
The issue is, although most benchmarks where held by the P4, the $400 or nearly 380% price increase compared to a 2-5% performance increase on the more broad benchmarks (read: not Quake) makes the "it wins most benchmarks" point moot. Nevertheless, the P4 is a technology that is specifically designed to meet the marketing demands of the "Ghz" ratings, and performance is secondary. This is disgusting. Now, the new P3 is a good chip - albiet overpriced. I'd rather have one of those than a P4. And since the current P4 architecture is being phased out for the Whillimate's, I see no reason in buying Intel right now - just wait, or go AMD. Intel may still come out on top, just not with thier current offering.
Speaking of down time, /. cut off my last sentance... to complete:
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Please, the bottom line is, I stuck my win2K disk in, and... it worked.
You make good points. Although this bootloader thing is disconcerning, the reality is, I've triple booted Win2K/RHLinux/BeOS (R5), and the ease of install and hardware (especially video and sound) went from left to right - at least RH Linux PnP'd my 3COM 905c so I could attempt to download video and sound drivers. With BeOS, it was a bit of a PITA. And please don't say I'm an "idiot if I couldn't get it working." Please, the bottom line is, I stuck my win2K disk in, and
/. has had a lot more down time recently - not doing good for the whole Linux/MySQL/Perl movement :(.
OT: I know it's probably not the OS and more code related, but
Ya right, do you really think that _I_ have an Audi S4... I wish! I'll be up there in November, and if I had those wheels, I'd so be game. :)
Blair,
I didn't make any "overgeneralized" statement in my post - read it. I didn't write the subject's topic "RE: AMD has the better chip", just the "RE:" which refers that I am replying to that thread (read: your post has the same subject). First, try to understand my point. What I said was, in Unreal Tournament (not to mention Serious Sam, and 3DStudio MAX) the Athlon 1.4ghz is still faster. I didn't say, "because of the Unreal benchamarks AMD makes a better chip". Also, I said that aside from Quake, the P4 is only marginally faster. This is based on a whole gauntlet of benchmarks. Only on a few programs is the increase in speed significant (read: maybe noticeable). My point was, the chip still isn't faster at everything (see also: "mhz myth"), and where it is faster, it's not worth the $400.
Actually, according to Firingsquad, if you're an unreal player, this tells us that the AMD 1.4ghz is STILL faster than the latest P4 offering! Aside from Quake, the P4 2ghz is only marginally faster. The 2.24ghz (OC'd) does take a bit more of a lead. So, for only $400 extra you can get 10% speed increase on a FEW programs!
Please, I'll take you on in whistler with some all wheel drive from my Audi S4.
It's stupid that people think they can break copyright laws and be set free by the open source fairy. I'm pretty sure this will get modded down as Flaimbait...
... And you should. First off all the software on my machine is LEGIT and PURCHASED because I believe in copyright. Please calm down and rationalize the situation. If I buy a CD, I have every right to put the CD's contents in my Car's MP3 player. I'm not stealing! If the CD's contents are encrypted, I have the right to "circumvent the technological measures" to convert it to MP3 for my car. This is not stealing.
The free speech aspect of this is the "circumvention measure" (downloadable executable, or otherwise) that allows me to listen to my CD in my car's MP3 player. The pirating of the CD itself it NOT free speech, and is not what we are fighting for.
DirectX is so hard to program in, so clunky to use...
Although I'm a fan of OpenGL, it's way to harsh to say that DirectX is clunky. It's actually quite brilliant (albeit some quirks), hence why so many predict that a lot of developers will LOVE developing for the X-BOX. One other thing to consider about DirectX, is that it's an all encompassing API which handles not only 3D accelorators, but 2D display, input devices, 3D and standard sound, and so on.
Intel plans on releasing a chipset that supports DDR DRAM within a month or so ANYWAY, so whats the point of this fight? Does Intel make MORE money licensing the chipsets that use their processors then the processors themselves?
To me, at least, I think it's just that Intel got a little egg on their face and is now trying to use their muscle to halt it.
PLEASE read the article! The issue has nothing to do with the speed of DDR SDRAM, it has to do with the fact that VIA supposedly doesn't have the proper licensing from Intel, and there could be legal battles. This is a purely legal/business issue, not a technical one.
You are absolutly right. MS's JVM is what is crippled (doesn't even support 1.2 let alone 1.3) due to legal issues (whoes fault is irrelevant). So, Microsoft decides to GIVE THE CONSUMER A CHOICE and let them use a THIRD PARTY NON-MS JVM and now we whine about it? If they didn't, we'd be grumbling about how it's using it's monopolistic powers to force it's own JVM on the industry.
Please, IE has always been more W3C HTML compliant then Netscrape. Let's stick to the FACTS.
But consider what it would take for you to move from a MS operating system to a competitor...
.txt files? My eudora email files? My PSD/GIF/JPG/PNG files? I've been using MS OS's for 12 years and I could move all of my files over to a MAC and potentially Linux with no problem at all. It's the consumer's choice to use proprietary file formats (read: vendor lock-in), not Microsoft's.
* You've paid $$$ for lots of MS-only software: will it all run?
Which was a choice we all made (remember, MAC's used to have more software availble for them then PC's).
* If not, how will you read/edit all your existing files?
What existing files? My XML or HTML files? My
Watch it, I'm sitting in front of the character designer of clippy (don't worry, I give him crap on a daily basis).
I'm pretty sure (IANA Java Expert) EJB's have access to the session object (at least under Allaire's JRUN server). JRUN can store session in a JDBC datastore, giving access to any Bean on your network.
.NET takes the lead. There are multiple ways that .NET maintains state. .NET comes with a "session service", that allows a cluster of machines to act as session servers. It also allows OLEDB or ODBC compliant datastores to host sessions as well. It can also (with a performance hit if your page is large) maintain state between pages via ungodly URL's or hidden form variables - all behind the scenes of a developer.
This is where
I have a hard time believing that a Quadro Setup can render something in .4 of a sec that their SGI setup takes 90mins to do.
You have a point, but it's not as crazy as you think. Although SGI's have 3D acceloration (as our gaming machines do), this is used for the actuall modelling. The server farms use don't use the video card to render (they can't for multiple reasons). Consider this: try playing Quake 3 on a 1ghz Athlon in Software mode (if you can). It looks like crap and runs sloooow. Put a geforce 3 in it, and you can get a 100x speed boost (ambiguous number to make a point). This is because the rendering get's done in the hardware.
The only problem with this, is that when you move to hardware acceloration, you can't use the super complex rendering engine that they used to render the movie. Therefore, the visual quality can't possibly be as good.
One final example: go buy a mega PRO 3D card that accelorates the modeling in 3DSMax. Ask your vender if the card will also speed up the rendering. They will tell you as I have - the rendering can't use hardware acceleration! Therefore, the machine with the GF3 has a HUGE advantage, albeit at a visual quality loss.
Am I the only one failing to grasp the importance of Web Services?
.NET Web Services are great for certain applications (anything can be overused). I've seen a lot of PHP, ASP/COM, and Cold Fusion code that could have been so much easier to maintain if they would have stuck some of the core logic into a "distributed object model" of some sort.
The concept behind a web service has less to do with "metered services", and more to do with managed code (like EJB's). Internally for my Fortune 1000 corporation, I can share the "login authentication code" amongs 10 seperate applications without the applications needing the compiled Servlet or DLL on the machine itself. Moreover, applications like Microsoft Passport (or similar solutions) can be seamlessly integrated into non-Microsoft sites. Both of these scenarios promote incredible Code Reuse, at the expense of the overhead caused by HTTP and XML serialization.
Both EJB's and
It seems to me that good coders with PHP and apache knowledge seem to be able to pull a better magic than all the Javas and dotNets of this world.
It's really all about the bigger picture. Sure, some little site that uses a couple of include files and global variables can be managed fine by PHP, but it's all about scalability in terms of the applications power and complexity. Now, I'm not saying PHP or CF can't do these things - they can. It just get's to be more of a kludge then a solution as the project requirements get larger ).
the Seattle Metro area voted Yes on the new Seahawks stadium in...98 was it?
I'm talking the Mariners stadium...