LOL you are truly pathetic! Let me explain the obvious to you, dimwit:
1) The 3 or 4 German sentences you supplied are grammatically correct. However, a few simple phrases in German do not indicate any level of proficiency let alone fluency in the German language as you claim to possess. I haven't made any claims about my knowledge of German, but I will let you know that it's more than sufficient to justify a good laugh at your expense, for thinking that a few utterances makes a linguist.
Ich gebe gern zu, dass das relativ wenig Deutsch war. Aber mir ging es gar nicht darum, hier einen deutschen Roman zu veröffentlichen, sondern ich wollte einfach zeigen, dass Deutsch meine Muttersprache ist und ich deswegen beliebig verschaubte und komplexe Sätze im Deutschen bilden kann. Vermutlich kannst du das Gleiche in deiner Muttersprache, und es kann durchaus sein, dass Englisch deine Muttersprache ist. Ich versuche deswegen überhaupt nicht, mit dir in irgendeiner Weise auf dem Gebiet der englischen Grammatik zu konkurrieren. Ich bin mir sicher, dass ich viele Fehler mache. Ich hab dir ja bereits erzählt, dass ich keine formale Ausbildung im Englischen habe, ich bin Autodidakt. Vier Monate Englisch an der Volkshochschule ersetzen sicher keinen neun- oder elfjährigen Unterricht bei englischen Muttersprachlern.
2) I don't know Dutch and have never claimed to know it. You on the other hand supply a single line of Dutch which I was able to translate using Google. Given that you probably obtained this simple pair of phrases from Google yourself, it hardly qualifies you as having any knowledge of Dutch language whatsoever. You must think we are idiots, to believe that one or two sentences in a smattering of common European languages means you are in any way proficient in those languages (do you know we have to study 2 European languages in the UK?)
Ah, wusste ich es:) Du bist ein englischer Muttersprachler. Aber zwei Fremdsprachen stehen auf dem Stundenplan jedes EU-Landes in der höheren Schulbildung, da ist das Vereinigte Königreich weder eine positive noch eine negative Ausnahme. Ansonsten nehm ich relativ selten Google zum Übersetzen, für das Englische bevorzuge ich Leo.Org.
3) You are correct, your French grammar in even your own chosen couple of phrases is poor. Perhaps your deranged sister-wife supplied these utterances for you?
Interessanterweise ist meine Frau tatsächlich Französischlehrerin, aber sie schläft schon lange. Und für ein bisschen Spaß auf Slashdot muss ich sie nicht unbedingt wecken. Ich weiß, dass ich den Passé composé falsch gebildet habe. Sowas passiert mir immer mal wieder. Ich verwechsle oft phonetisch gleich oder ähnlich klingende Wörter. Mir ist es bereits passiert, dass ich "this" und "dies" verwechselt habe, weil sie einmal im Englischen und einmal im Deutschen das Gleiche bedeuten. Solche Fehler deckt keine automatische Fehlerkorrektur auf. Mit diesen muss ich leben.
4) Same goes with your lax Russian sentence.
Ich stamme aus Ostdeutschland. Russisch war für uns alle verpflichtende erste Fremdsprache. Gelernt haben wir Russisch, als ob es Latein wäre. Ich habe in der mündlichen Prüfung in Russisch eine Vier bekommen, weil mich Russisch nie interessiert hat. Mir reichte es, wenn ich in verwandten Sprachen wie Polnisch oder Tschechisch die Lautsprecherdurchsagen am Bahnhof verstand.
And now a request to you: PLEASE KEEP UP THE FACADE!!
Und du bezahlst die Fassadenreinigung? Fein!
We are really loving it here on Slashdot.. You see we're so stupid that we are overwhelmed by your attempts at articulating your 2 or 3 sentence utterances in 3 or 4 foreign languages.. Oh sure, you've really proved your worth with those (note: I am using something called 'sarcasm' but don't worry your li
There is the article: Akte LS (the german Name for X-Files is "Akte X"). And there is one the RPGs: Nightfall. Log in and check for "Sique". Feel free to try to solve the Schilda quest, which I wrote 10 years ago.
Ach, hör einfach auf, dich aufzuspielen:) Bisher war ich so freundlich, dass ich das Spielfeld im Englischen gelassen habe, damit du wenigstens ein bisschen mitspielen kannst. Aber ich glaube nicht, dass du irgendwas kapierst, falls ich anfangen sollte, deutsch zu schreiben.
Maar mischien jij versta een beetje nederlands? Ik ben niet helemaal goed, maar ik kun het lezen en weet wat jij vertellen wilt.
Je ne sais pas que je peut ecrir toute une posting en francais, mais je peut essayer. Il est possible que ma grammaire francais est plus mauvaise que mon anglais. Mais pourquoi non? Je n'ai utiliser pas la francais pour cinq ans.
Ya utshal russkij yassyk dvatsat let nazad, i ya nikogda ne yestj v Rossiyu, potomu-tshto ya nye mogu govoritj po-russki.
Why I should? I learned English all myself, without never ever attending any taxpayer paid class. Probably differently than you I paid for all my english classes with my very own money. Probably differently than you I had never any english class in school, because I am no native english speaker. My foreign languages I learned as a child were Russian, French and Dutch, while my native language is German.
At age 20 I paid for english lessons, took them for four month, and then learned English by reading english books (which I bought with my own money) and playing online role playing games in English (which I helped programming and expanding). So take your tax payer money and go out an by a new cliché. Yours is quite worn out.
It's time for the confusing and wrong car analogy.
Normally you also don't see tests of vans against trucks even though they may build on the same frame and engine, and both are designed to carry more than a car.
My next project is a field test of a XMPP based Single-Number-Service-System for Siemens phone system, the OpenScape 3.0. Seems that there is really some XMPP around right now.
The truth is those that benefits from the current systems do not want electronic voting to work. You caught me here. I profiteer from paper ballot voting. And I am convinced that for an elementary reason electronic voting will never work.
The whole idea behind electronic voting is to speed up the counting process to have the results early. And that's exactly the reason why I don't want any electronic voting. With paper ballots I (that's me personally. Not a rhetoric "I", but just me, the person registered as "Sique" on Slashdot) can make sure that at least in my voting district there is no tampering with the votes. I can watch the whole process, registering of the voters, printing the ballots, distributing the ballots, sealing of the voting boxes, checking the identity of the single voter, handing the ballots to the voters, putting of the ballots in the box, breaking the seal, counting and charting the results, then resealing the boxes and sending them to the central election office, and recounting them for the final results.
I don't need any special abilities. I don't need to understand code, I don't need to understand hardware, I don't need to know about chip card formats or sending protocols. But I can verify that my vote gets counted exactly as I cast it. Every speed up of the process means I lose the ability to watch what happens to my personal vote, or I have to give up the anonymity of my vote.
Where I come from this ability to be able to watch an election was the reason we caught the election board of a complete country rigging the election, and we had enough proof to put them in prison. I don't see how we would ever managed it without being able to watch the whole voting process.
So I have worked in a bank where the licenses for the key cards were running low, so a colleague and me, we didn't get our own key card, lower beings we were, just hired contractors. Instead both of us got a binary clone of a key card from someone else, and we were instructed to immediately sign us out again as soon as we entered the bank, so the original key holder was able to enter the bank too.
Hey, you get all the nifty airplanes and laser guided missiles and helicopters to play with. Other armies concentrate on providing the right basic tools to do the job at hand. Thus the french military has the FAMAS, and the Germans have the Leopard II tank.
That's right, and I was trying to point out that the network was deployed for purpose A only, and purpose B was just a byproduct, because it was part of the protocol.
As a bad analogy thing of it as traceroute. IP routing was thought to be transparent for the application. But because of the fact that a gateway sends a message to the origin node when the TTL of a packet has reached zero, there was the potential of traceroute. Sending a "TTL exceeded" message was never intended to help you map the routes. But it was a nice way to use it.
Somehow the same happened to SMS. It was thought to implement some error messaging and to allow for paging people on duty. It grow into a communication device for young people. But it was never deployed as one.
What about actually reading the posting you are replying to?
I never said that GSM cost is zero. I said that the cost of SMS within GSM is zero, because SMS is just a part of GSM (its stderr channel). So if you deploy a huge GSM network to work as a provider of mobile voice services, you get the SMS service for free. When GSM first was deployed it was never thought to have SMS as a separate service. Thus the first huge SMS networks were paid for by voice users who weren't even using SMS. Then the providers which already had a complete SMS infrastructure in place saw that the usage of SMS started to grow and they could just print money by increasing the SMS prices.
When GSM was introduced in the U.S., the SMS facility was already been known to the providers as a big cash cow, and the calculations were already taking that in account.
But still the cost to send an short message is much lower than the cost to send a phone conversation with about the same price. Here in Austria the charge for 1 min of mobile phone conversation is often 1 ct (up to 5 ct/min for prepaid plans). So for the cost of a single short message (19 ct) I can have a conversation for about 19 minutes. Which one will be more expensive to transmit for the provider?
SMS is the byproduct of the GSM standard. It was never designed to actually be a customer product. It was more or less thought to be some stderr of sort.
When SMS was introduced at the beginning of the 90ies in Europe, it was basicly free. There were SMS gateways all over the Internet. But then the carriers were recognizing the marketing potential of SMS, and slowly the prices per single message were rising until they reached 49 ct (in Germany at the end of the 90ies). Only when parents were stunned by the SMS cost of their children, protests started to mount, and then the diverse regulation offices in the different countries were trying to limit SMS prices, so there were actual plans which included for example 1000 short messages per month.
SMS is a prime example for the difference between price and cost of a product. The cost is nearly zero, but the pricing is expensive.
You mean, they just do it and tell no one? And the CIA, which knows about this, keeps its mouth shut because otherwise the Chinese would reveal more domestic spying programs?
Usually, A would have already made adjustments for his loss by the time it is found that C purchased the stuff. Insurance would have paid if there was any, whatever was stolen would ave been replaced and so on. You know what actually happens if insurance company IC reimbursed the stolen car to A? In fact A is selling the car to IC, and now IC is the rightful owner of the car. So A is really out of the loop, as you correctly state, but now IC will get the car once it is located at C's backyard by the police. IC might now consider to sell the car back to A, or put it to scrap metal or sell it at the next used car market, they are now the rightful owner of the car and are entitled to do with the property as they think it fits.
But if they intrude your property, they have either you, a person you authorise, or at least someone not involved with the police with them as a witness. At least that's the current law in Germany.
If the sale was a fraud (either because B knowingly sold him a lemon, or because the car was stolen), he has indeed the right to get his money back. But here I was always agreeing to. I was just wondering about a legal system where C can keep a car he bought (may it be in good faith) even though it was stolen from A, and A has to actually pay with his money to get it back!
Bad luck for C. If C bought the Chevy from a backyard and without warranty, and it breaks down at the next corner, spilling oil to the sewer, C has to pay the bill not only for towing the Chevy, but also for cleaning the sewer, also without recourse against B. It was C's free decision to buy the Chevy, but it wasn't A's free will to have it stolen by B.
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LOL you are truly pathetic! Let me explain the obvious to you, dimwit:
1) The 3 or 4 German sentences you supplied are grammatically correct. However, a few simple phrases in German do not indicate any level of proficiency let alone fluency in the German language as you claim to possess. I haven't made any claims about my knowledge of German, but I will let you know that it's more than sufficient to justify a good laugh at your expense, for thinking that a few utterances makes a linguist.
Ich gebe gern zu, dass das relativ wenig Deutsch war. Aber mir ging es gar nicht darum, hier einen deutschen Roman zu veröffentlichen, sondern ich wollte einfach zeigen, dass Deutsch meine Muttersprache ist und ich deswegen beliebig verschaubte und komplexe Sätze im Deutschen bilden kann. Vermutlich kannst du das Gleiche in deiner Muttersprache, und es kann durchaus sein, dass Englisch deine Muttersprache ist. Ich versuche deswegen überhaupt nicht, mit dir in irgendeiner Weise auf dem Gebiet der englischen Grammatik zu konkurrieren. Ich bin mir sicher, dass ich viele Fehler mache. Ich hab dir ja bereits erzählt, dass ich keine formale Ausbildung im Englischen habe, ich bin Autodidakt. Vier Monate Englisch an der Volkshochschule ersetzen sicher keinen neun- oder elfjährigen Unterricht bei englischen Muttersprachlern.
2) I don't know Dutch and have never claimed to know it. You on the other hand supply a single line of Dutch which I was able to translate using Google. Given that you probably obtained this simple pair of phrases from Google yourself, it hardly qualifies you as having any knowledge of Dutch language whatsoever. You must think we are idiots, to believe that one or two sentences in a smattering of common European languages means you are in any way proficient in those languages (do you know we have to study 2 European languages in the UK?)
Ah, wusste ich es :) Du bist ein englischer Muttersprachler. Aber zwei Fremdsprachen stehen auf dem Stundenplan jedes EU-Landes in der höheren Schulbildung, da ist das Vereinigte Königreich weder eine positive noch eine negative Ausnahme. Ansonsten nehm ich relativ selten Google zum Übersetzen, für das Englische bevorzuge ich Leo.Org.
3) You are correct, your French grammar in even your own chosen couple of phrases is poor. Perhaps your deranged sister-wife supplied these utterances for you?
Interessanterweise ist meine Frau tatsächlich Französischlehrerin, aber sie schläft schon lange. Und für ein bisschen Spaß auf Slashdot muss ich sie nicht unbedingt wecken. Ich weiß, dass ich den Passé composé falsch gebildet habe. Sowas passiert mir immer mal wieder. Ich verwechsle oft phonetisch gleich oder ähnlich klingende Wörter. Mir ist es bereits passiert, dass ich "this" und "dies" verwechselt habe, weil sie einmal im Englischen und einmal im Deutschen das Gleiche bedeuten. Solche Fehler deckt keine automatische Fehlerkorrektur auf. Mit diesen muss ich leben.
4) Same goes with your lax Russian sentence.
Ich stamme aus Ostdeutschland. Russisch war für uns alle verpflichtende erste Fremdsprache. Gelernt haben wir Russisch, als ob es Latein wäre. Ich habe in der mündlichen Prüfung in Russisch eine Vier bekommen, weil mich Russisch nie interessiert hat. Mir reichte es, wenn ich in verwandten Sprachen wie Polnisch oder Tschechisch die Lautsprecherdurchsagen am Bahnhof verstand.
And now a request to you: PLEASE KEEP UP THE FACADE!!
Und du bezahlst die Fassadenreinigung? Fein!
We are really loving it here on Slashdot.. You see we're so stupid that we are overwhelmed by your attempts at articulating your 2 or 3 sentence utterances in 3 or 4 foreign languages.. Oh sure, you've really proved your worth with those (note: I am using something called 'sarcasm' but don't worry your li
There is the article: Akte LS (the german Name for X-Files is "Akte X"). And there is one the RPGs: Nightfall. Log in and check for "Sique". Feel free to try to solve the Schilda quest, which I wrote 10 years ago.
Ach, hör einfach auf, dich aufzuspielen :) Bisher war ich so freundlich, dass ich das Spielfeld im Englischen gelassen habe, damit du wenigstens ein bisschen mitspielen kannst. Aber ich glaube nicht, dass du irgendwas kapierst, falls ich anfangen sollte, deutsch zu schreiben.
Maar mischien jij versta een beetje nederlands? Ik ben niet helemaal goed, maar ik kun het lezen en weet wat jij vertellen wilt.
Je ne sais pas que je peut ecrir toute une posting en francais, mais je peut essayer. Il est possible que ma grammaire francais est plus mauvaise que mon anglais. Mais pourquoi non? Je n'ai utiliser pas la francais pour cinq ans.
Ya utshal russkij yassyk dvatsat let nazad, i ya nikogda ne yestj v Rossiyu, potomu-tshto ya nye mogu govoritj po-russki.
You are a quite persistant troll, but I rather doubt your ability to even detect any grammar errors in German :)
Why I should? I learned English all myself, without never ever attending any taxpayer paid class. Probably differently than you I paid for all my english classes with my very own money. Probably differently than you I had never any english class in school, because I am no native english speaker. My foreign languages I learned as a child were Russian, French and Dutch, while my native language is German.
At age 20 I paid for english lessons, took them for four month, and then learned English by reading english books (which I bought with my own money) and playing online role playing games in English (which I helped programming and expanding). So take your tax payer money and go out an by a new cliché. Yours is quite worn out.
Mine is 1 + 1(forced) (my sister-in-law used to like Buffy, so I was forced to watch it while visiting her).
I tried X-Files once, and it was so bad that I actually wrote a persiflage about it (albeit in German).
No. It's simple applying of Boxing Rules to a war. If someone cries out "it was a tie", it is surely a reference to sport.
Which means, that Vietnam as defending champion (they got the title against the French in 1956) still carries the title.
It's time for the confusing and wrong car analogy.
Normally you also don't see tests of vans against trucks even though they may build on the same frame and engine, and both are designed to carry more than a car.
My next project is a field test of a XMPP based Single-Number-Service-System for Siemens phone system, the OpenScape 3.0. Seems that there is really some XMPP around right now.
So we are back to Bernard of Chartes and his wellknown and often quoted "If I've seen further, it was by standing on the shoulders of giants."
The whole idea behind electronic voting is to speed up the counting process to have the results early. And that's exactly the reason why I don't want any electronic voting. With paper ballots I (that's me personally. Not a rhetoric "I", but just me, the person registered as "Sique" on Slashdot) can make sure that at least in my voting district there is no tampering with the votes. I can watch the whole process, registering of the voters, printing the ballots, distributing the ballots, sealing of the voting boxes, checking the identity of the single voter, handing the ballots to the voters, putting of the ballots in the box, breaking the seal, counting and charting the results, then resealing the boxes and sending them to the central election office, and recounting them for the final results.
I don't need any special abilities. I don't need to understand code, I don't need to understand hardware, I don't need to know about chip card formats or sending protocols. But I can verify that my vote gets counted exactly as I cast it. Every speed up of the process means I lose the ability to watch what happens to my personal vote, or I have to give up the anonymity of my vote.
Where I come from this ability to be able to watch an election was the reason we caught the election board of a complete country rigging the election, and we had enough proof to put them in prison. I don't see how we would ever managed it without being able to watch the whole voting process.
So I have worked in a bank where the licenses for the key cards were running low, so a colleague and me, we didn't get our own key card, lower beings we were, just hired contractors. Instead both of us got a binary clone of a key card from someone else, and we were instructed to immediately sign us out again as soon as we entered the bank, so the original key holder was able to enter the bank too.
Clans are very easy. Basicly the Clan Lord is one thread that does the protection for all the other threads within his clan.
Hey, you get all the nifty airplanes and laser guided missiles and helicopters to play with. Other armies concentrate on providing the right basic tools to do the job at hand. Thus the french military has the FAMAS, and the Germans have the Leopard II tank.
That's right, and I was trying to point out that the network was deployed for purpose A only, and purpose B was just a byproduct, because it was part of the protocol.
As a bad analogy thing of it as traceroute. IP routing was thought to be transparent for the application. But because of the fact that a gateway sends a message to the origin node when the TTL of a packet has reached zero, there was the potential of traceroute. Sending a "TTL exceeded" message was never intended to help you map the routes. But it was a nice way to use it.
Somehow the same happened to SMS. It was thought to implement some error messaging and to allow for paging people on duty. It grow into a communication device for young people. But it was never deployed as one.
But the sky is violet, not blue, thanks to the Rayleigh-effect. Our eyes are just more sensible for blue than for violet, thus we see it blue.
What about actually reading the posting you are replying to?
I never said that GSM cost is zero. I said that the cost of SMS within GSM is zero, because SMS is just a part of GSM (its stderr channel). So if you deploy a huge GSM network to work as a provider of mobile voice services, you get the SMS service for free. When GSM first was deployed it was never thought to have SMS as a separate service. Thus the first huge SMS networks were paid for by voice users who weren't even using SMS. Then the providers which already had a complete SMS infrastructure in place saw that the usage of SMS started to grow and they could just print money by increasing the SMS prices.
When GSM was introduced in the U.S., the SMS facility was already been known to the providers as a big cash cow, and the calculations were already taking that in account.
But still the cost to send an short message is much lower than the cost to send a phone conversation with about the same price. Here in Austria the charge for 1 min of mobile phone conversation is often 1 ct (up to 5 ct/min for prepaid plans). So for the cost of a single short message (19 ct) I can have a conversation for about 19 minutes. Which one will be more expensive to transmit for the provider?
SMS is the byproduct of the GSM standard. It was never designed to actually be a customer product. It was more or less thought to be some stderr of sort.
When SMS was introduced at the beginning of the 90ies in Europe, it was basicly free. There were SMS gateways all over the Internet. But then the carriers were recognizing the marketing potential of SMS, and slowly the prices per single message were rising until they reached 49 ct (in Germany at the end of the 90ies). Only when parents were stunned by the SMS cost of their children, protests started to mount, and then the diverse regulation offices in the different countries were trying to limit SMS prices, so there were actual plans which included for example 1000 short messages per month.
SMS is a prime example for the difference between price and cost of a product. The cost is nearly zero, but the pricing is expensive.
You mean, they just do it and tell no one? And the CIA, which knows about this, keeps its mouth shut because otherwise the Chinese would reveal more domestic spying programs?
But if they intrude your property, they have either you, a person you authorise, or at least someone not involved with the police with them as a witness. At least that's the current law in Germany.
If the sale was a fraud (either because B knowingly sold him a lemon, or because the car was stolen), he has indeed the right to get his money back. But here I was always agreeing to. I was just wondering about a legal system where C can keep a car he bought (may it be in good faith) even though it was stolen from A, and A has to actually pay with his money to get it back!
Bad luck for C. If C bought the Chevy from a backyard and without warranty, and it breaks down at the next corner, spilling oil to the sewer, C has to pay the bill not only for towing the Chevy, but also for cleaning the sewer, also without recourse against B. It was C's free decision to buy the Chevy, but it wasn't A's free will to have it stolen by B.