Quoth the poster: perhaps linked to the orientation of ancient scrolls.
Funny you should say "orientation" Early European maps had EAST at the top Ever hear of "orienting" a map? Point the way in front of you towards your destination (the orient)
(Of course on the way back I guess you had an "occident")....bad pun, but I couldn't resist
Boy, did we.... and the National Visa Card is now bursting at the seams. The latest maniac to occupy 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue (with the original cast of "Ronnie's Raiders" backing him up) is currently making the Gipper look like a piker in comparison.
Yes, we outspent the Soviets. Indeed the Soviet Union ceased to exist politically in late 1991 thanks, in part to that spending. Unfortunately, the current US debt (7x10^12) is a drag on any economic recovery real or imagined. A falling dollar along with a rise in interest rates doesn't give any potential investor any "warm cuddlies". If we continue to borrow and spend, we might as well all learn to speak Mandarin.
This was the same group that said SDI wouldn't work back in '83-'84.
Yeah, all those "successful" SDI tests, right?
Now the problem becomes convincing any potential adversaries that they need to tell us when and where they plan to attack, and, oh yes.... would they mind terribly putting a radar beacon on any incoming warheads?
Though while they're at it, they should also clone Steve Jobs and "upgrade" the current version to include the willingness to actually put a version of MacOS X on the market for x86... Though I suspect if that actually happened the sun would have a divide by zero error and implode into a very dark spot with alot of gravity...
Haven't you heard the news? Apple will release the x86 version of OS X the day after Gates makes Windows open source. It was in ALL the papers... you CAN'T have missed it!
Enterprise is also very old, and it is likely that Columbia's age played an indirect part in this accident. If I were an astronaut, I would not want to fly on a retrofitted Enterprise.
You needn't worry about the age of the orbiters. The shuttles are extensively refurbished after every fourth or fifth flight. The only piece of 'original' (read: 22 year old) equipment on the Columbia was the name.
Why use the goverment to quiet those with whom you do not agree?
Not suggesting that at all. Let the right-wing bloviaters spew their propaganda to a willing segment of the population all they want. All I'm saying is that for every hour of Limbaugh, Liddy, Ingraham, Hannity, Harvey et al Clear Channel and other media behemoths should provide an equal outlet to the likes of Randi Rhodes, Steve Crockett, Al Lawrence, Jim Hightower, Greg Palast, et al. True, Clear Channel owns the radio stations, but (and this is something most folks seem to forget) WE (the People.... just like it says on the Constitution) own the airwaves! If the media conglomerates can't remember that, perhaps it's time to remind them...... when licencing renewal comes up
Something caused the universe to begin. Whatever that something is, He is God.
Use some logic.
Something caused God to begin. Whatever that something is...... uh, oh..... damn causality loops!:)
Nothing matters, nothing ever mattered, nothing ever will matter, and your entire existance is completely meaningless.
....and there is a problem with this worldview? I know is doesn't give the religous a nice warm, cuddly feeling to think that humanity is not the sole reason why the cosmos exists, but even the most megalomaniacal among us would have to admit that the universe as a whole would no more mourn or indeed even NOTICE our extinction than you would notice a sand flea dying in the Sahara.
Not to argue the finer points of pedagogy with you, but I think you've missed the point.
Anyone can grok the HOW (a reasonably bright chimpanzee can be taught to hammer out HTML, indeed many a chimp makes a fairly good living at it these days!)
The parent of this post was looking to suppliment his(her?) shallow knowledge of chemistry and to gain a deeper understanding of that subject matter.
To gain an understanding of the WHY one must first fully understand the foundation upon which the knowledge is based. The OSI example was perhaps a poor choice (so shoot me, I was trying to reach the geeks in the audience)
You might say "Bugger the whys", but knowing _why_ something works gives you a deeper understanding of _how_ something works. Which I believe was the original intent of this thread. Indeed, you may come up with a better way of how to do something once you understand why that something works the way it does.
Take simple arithmetic for instance. Division to be specific. You can tell a class about the no-no on division by zero. You can state it as simple fact, as if the God of Division parted the heavens one day and a flaming finger came out of the sky, pointed to the first math teacher and spake "THOU SHALT NOT DIVIDE BY ZERO" A lot of kids will be satisfied by that (particularly in the Bible Belt ) but there will be a group of kids who will ask "Why not?" You can show them "why not" by solving division problems using multiplication... e.g.
12 / 4 = z 12 = 4 x z z = 3
fair enough... so therefore
12 / 0 = z 12 = 0 x z
what number can you multiply by zero to get twelve?
That is the "why" to the prohibition on division by zero.
The "hows" are good at creating things that people want. You can then sell those things to get more research grants to finance more "whys". It's the "whys" that eventually lead you to building more and better "hows"..... a nice self reinforcing loop, that. The "whys" are what lead to a better understanding of any subject matter, and indeed our entire universe.
Just think.... if you answer a "why" that no one has ever thought to ask before, you might find yourself sitting on a dais in Stockholm one day!
Physics does have a place in Chemistry, I readily admit this. But from my (admittedly young) knowledge of Chemistry (I am going into my 2nd year for a Chemistry B.S.), you're gonna have a difficult time trying to find what I personally consider the interesting parts of Chemistry in Physics.
Try looking at it backwards. Don't look for the interesting parts of chemistry in physics, rather look for the interesting parts of physics in chemistry. Poring over and memorizing periodical tables and reaction charts may give you an understanding of how chemistry works, but even the broadest concepts of the underlying physics can give you a better appreciation of why it works. Therein lies the path to deeper understanding of chemistry, Grasshopper. [grin]
It's kind of like the OSI layering standard. This message is displayed on your browser after:
leaving my machine across a wire (layer 1)
going thru a switch to the cable modem (layer 2)
bouncing thru any of a number of devices to get to/. (Layer 3)
making sure it got there without losing any bits along the way (layer 4)
setting up a cosy little chat with the OSDF server (layer 5)
coding/decoding all the ASCII/GIF's/JPG's et al (layer 6)
and finally, bunging all thru HTML on your browser.
Each layer building on the other to make itself understood. A thorough grounding in mathematics gives you the basics for delving into physics. Even the most elementary physics can give you a deeper understanding of chemistry, as can an understanding of chemistry give you a deeper appreciation for the intricacies of biology (although my heart goes out to you when you have to deal with the details of organic chem [grin])
I can understand that order at the high school level. To really grok most physics problems requires at least passing familiarity with integration and derivation. (One could argue that Newton/Leibnitz invented/discovered the calculus to deal with some of their more vexing problems) Coursework attempting to impart an understanding of physics without the use of calculus is about as popular as compulsory military service
Ok.... I'll take it slowly this time.... This woman wants to send e-mail to her boyfriend and maybe do a little web surfing. Unless she lives in a VERY small town, she has her pick of any of a number of ISP's. Thus, she doesn't have to deal with the likes of AOL or MSN. No non-standard PPP, no problem.
Thus, all your e-mail contacts would be unable to contact you
Here's a concept for you.... gather all the addresses in your address book and send each entry a small email saying
"Hi! I got a new ISP recently. My email address has changed from me@old.isp.com to me@new.isp.com. Please update your address book Thanx!"
As for the website passwords.... if your memory is not up to the task, I suggest writing down your passwords and storing them in a secure place..... or just put 'em on a post-it and stick it to your monitor like the rest of us do! [grin]
Slashdot Mirror
that passwords are always vulnerable to the "Rubber Hose Exploit"
i.e. apply a rubber hose smartly and often to the person who knows the password until he/she divulges it
--MAB
All Your Computers Are Belong To Us
The Cure for 1984 is 1776
When Jobs didn't want games on the Mac to counter the argument that the Macintosh was "just a toy?"
But 6 times 9 DOES equal 42..... in base 13.
--MAB
These aren't the droids you're looking for.... he can go about his business
Quoth the poster: perhaps linked to the orientation of ancient scrolls.
....bad pun, but I couldn't resist
Funny you should say "orientation"
Early European maps had EAST at the top
Ever hear of "orienting" a map?
Point the way in front of you towards your destination (the orient)
(Of course on the way back I guess you had an "occident")
--MAB
We outspent them
Boy, did we.... and the National Visa Card is now bursting at the seams. The latest maniac to occupy 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue (with the original cast of "Ronnie's Raiders" backing him up) is currently making the Gipper look like a piker in comparison.
Yes, we outspent the Soviets. Indeed the Soviet Union ceased to exist politically in late 1991 thanks, in part to that spending. Unfortunately, the current US debt (7x10^12) is a drag on any economic recovery real or imagined. A falling dollar along with a rise in interest rates doesn't give any potential investor any "warm cuddlies". If we continue to borrow and spend, we might as well all learn to speak Mandarin.
This was the same group that said SDI wouldn't work back in '83-'84.
Yeah, all those "successful" SDI tests, right?
Now the problem becomes convincing any potential adversaries that they need to tell us when and where they plan to attack, and, oh yes.... would they mind terribly putting a radar beacon on any incoming warheads?
A TS or higher clearence.
geek + pulse + clearence = job
Scary but true.
....not to mention the inevitable lawsuit from Charo
Quoth the poster:
but you might want to compile your own PHP with support for more libraries such as PNG and zlib and stuff
Surf on over to here for one stop downloading goodness.
PHP, MySQL and Apache under MacOSX all in one easily installed file
17 and counting, mi amigo....
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FindLaw is your friend. (The Google for Law Geeks!)
http://news.findlaw.com/legalnews/lit/enron/ind
Though while they're at it, they should also clone Steve Jobs and "upgrade" the current version to include the willingness to actually put a version of MacOS X on the market for x86... Though I suspect if that actually happened the sun would have a divide by zero error and implode into a very dark spot with alot of gravity...
Haven't you heard the news?
Apple will release the x86 version of OS X the day after Gates makes Windows open source.
It was in ALL the papers... you CAN'T have missed it!
Linux won't be very popular with the Martians. They only have 3 fingers.
..... and three fingers is all you need to hit ctrl-alt-del, right?
Enterprise is also very old, and it is likely that Columbia's age played an indirect part in this accident. If I were an astronaut, I would not want to fly on a retrofitted Enterprise.
You needn't worry about the age of the orbiters. The shuttles are extensively refurbished after every fourth or fifth flight. The only piece of 'original' (read: 22 year old) equipment on the Columbia was the name.
Its so very interesting to me how you people thing that forcing the broadcast of an opinion is fair.
It is so very interesting to me that you consider a three hour RNC commercial (Limbaugh/Liddy) to be "opinion"
Why use the goverment to quiet those with whom you do not agree?
Not suggesting that at all. Let the right-wing bloviaters spew their propaganda to a willing segment of the population all they want. All I'm saying is that for every hour of Limbaugh, Liddy, Ingraham, Hannity, Harvey et al Clear Channel and other media behemoths should provide an equal outlet to the likes of Randi Rhodes, Steve Crockett, Al Lawrence, Jim Hightower, Greg Palast, et al. True, Clear Channel owns the radio stations, but (and this is something most folks seem to forget) WE (the People.... just like it says on the Constitution) own the airwaves!
If the media conglomerates can't remember that, perhaps it's time to remind them...... when licencing renewal comes up
reinstating the Fairness Doctrine?
40 hrs+ a week of hate radio is a bit extreme.
Any chance of getting Clear Channel/Scaife/Faux to let America hear a different slant?
Something caused the universe to begin. Whatever that something is, He is God.
:)
....and there is a problem with this worldview? I know is doesn't give the religous a nice warm, cuddly feeling to think that humanity is not the sole reason why the cosmos exists, but even the most megalomaniacal among us would have to admit that the universe as a whole would no more mourn or indeed even NOTICE our extinction than you would notice a sand flea dying in the Sahara.
Use some logic.
Something caused God to begin. Whatever that something is...... uh, oh..... damn causality loops!
Nothing matters, nothing ever mattered, nothing ever will matter, and your entire existance is completely meaningless.
Not to argue the finer points of pedagogy with you, but I think you've missed the point.
Anyone can grok the HOW (a reasonably bright chimpanzee can be taught to hammer out HTML, indeed many a chimp makes a fairly good living at it these days!)
The parent of this post was looking to suppliment his(her?) shallow knowledge of chemistry and to gain a deeper understanding of that subject matter.
To gain an understanding of the WHY one must first fully understand the foundation upon which the knowledge is based. The OSI example was perhaps a poor choice (so shoot me, I was trying to reach the geeks in the audience)
You might say "Bugger the whys", but knowing _why_ something works gives you a deeper understanding of _how_ something works. Which I believe was the original intent of this thread. Indeed, you may come up with a better way of how to do something once you understand why that something works the way it does.
Take simple arithmetic for instance. Division to be specific. You can tell a class about the no-no on division by zero. You can state it as simple fact, as if the God of Division parted the heavens one day and a flaming finger came out of the sky, pointed to the first math teacher and spake "THOU SHALT NOT DIVIDE BY ZERO" A lot of kids will be satisfied by that (particularly in the Bible Belt ) but there will be a group of kids who will ask "Why not?" You can show them "why not" by solving division problems using multiplication... e.g.
12 / 4 = z
12 = 4 x z
z = 3
fair enough... so therefore
12 / 0 = z
12 = 0 x z
what number can you multiply by zero to get twelve?
That is the "why" to the prohibition on division by zero.
The "hows" are good at creating things that people want. You can then sell those things to get more research grants to finance more "whys".
It's the "whys" that eventually lead you to building more and better "hows"..... a nice self reinforcing loop, that.
The "whys" are what lead to a better understanding of any subject matter, and indeed our entire universe.
Just think.... if you answer a "why" that no one has ever thought to ask before, you might find yourself sitting on a dais in Stockholm one day!
Since there were TWO Voyager probes, you then have a plural possessive "Voyagers'"
;>
You're welcome
Try looking at it backwards. Don't look for the interesting parts of chemistry in physics, rather look for the interesting parts of physics in chemistry. Poring over and memorizing periodical tables and reaction charts may give you an understanding of how chemistry works, but even the broadest concepts of the underlying physics can give you a better appreciation of why it works.
Therein lies the path to deeper understanding of chemistry, Grasshopper. [grin]
It's kind of like the OSI layering standard.
This message is displayed on your browser after:
Each layer building on the other to make itself understood. A thorough grounding in mathematics gives you the basics for delving into physics. Even the most elementary physics can give you a deeper understanding of chemistry, as can an understanding of chemistry give you a deeper appreciation for the intricacies of biology (although my heart goes out to you when you have to deal with the details of organic chem [grin])
I can understand that order at the high school level.
To really grok most physics problems requires at least passing familiarity with integration and derivation.
(One could argue that Newton/Leibnitz invented/discovered the calculus to deal with some of their more vexing problems)
Coursework attempting to impart an understanding of physics without the use of calculus is about as popular as compulsory military service
To gain "understanding" take the sciences in order.
1. Physics
2. Chemistry
3. Biology
Think of it this way:
Without physics, there can be no chemistry. Without chemistry, there is no biology
Ok.... I'll take it slowly this time....
This woman wants to send e-mail to her boyfriend and maybe do a little web surfing. Unless she lives in a VERY small town, she has her pick of any of a number of ISP's. Thus, she doesn't have to deal with the likes of AOL or MSN. No non-standard PPP, no problem.
Thus, all your e-mail contacts would be unable to contact you
Here's a concept for you.... gather all the addresses in your address book and send each entry a small email saying
"Hi! I got a new ISP recently.
My email address has changed from me@old.isp.com to me@new.isp.com.
Please update your address book Thanx!"
As for the website passwords.... if your memory is not up to the task, I suggest writing down your passwords and storing them in a secure place..... or just put 'em on a post-it and stick it to your monitor like the rest of us do! [grin]