hinderances to OSS is the image. I say this because ive met people who will use macs but they wont use linux because of the people who promote it as an anti business anti capitalist vehicle. The mozilla logo doesnt go very far in helping remove that image. then there those who genuinely belive that through linux they can bring a revolution of a politicla nature. its unlikely to happen it wil just hurt linux
when some shmuck online will give it to you for free... welcome to the age of kazaa where, if it isnt tangible, taking it without paying isnt considered a crime(by people). (im not trolling)
sounds easy enough huh, heh how about you try it once. if you can do it without breaking your system then i will be impressed. heck most posts on the mandrake news group have similar issues.. know what the answer is? reinstall
let me clarify, i meant Gaim2. try installing that on mandrake 9. try the packages on rpmfind, gaims site and urpmi. I was wondering why you were so adamant that it works fine yeah gaim works fine i meant gaim2. and no it is not just a GTK issue. honestly i put up with a lot of shit under linux but that was the last straw,
are you kidding. whos is spreading FUD. I am only telling you of my expeience using linux since 1996. Yes things are getting better, is it ready for prime time . hell no. the fact that no new mandrake binaries will work on 8.1 anymore is pretty bad. If I compile, it may solve the problem, but woudl youspend all your time compiling? try compiling kde 3.1 kdevelop and qt3 and see how long it takes. The fact that you say just recompile as if it is really a snap gives me the impression you dont do it very often. You accuse me of spreading FUD, look at youself. Obviously you have no idea what you are saying. Are you saying my machine is too old to run linux properly and regularly get the latest updates. Try compliling the kde messenger kopete on a pentium pro with 128 MB ram, see how it teakes over a day?( yes, i did comple it) now windows 2000 works just fine runs everything new really nicely too and it doesnt take over a day to install trillian.
linux has a serious binary compatibility isssue. One which linux advocates do not mention but sadly enough has become more an more prevalent these days. It got so bad recetly that i had to reinstall my mandrake 9.0 syatem with 9.1 just to use gaim. Thats pretty bad. Also just try using mandrake 8.x.. hardly any precompiled packages off the web will work fo you. Its really sad becasue all of the resinatlling and crashing drove me to the point that i swotched to OSX so i sould use a satble desktop. the major problems are: 1. Gcc changes 2. Glibc changes 3. libpng changes (2 and 3 are not compatible on the same machine) 4. people using beta perl or X11 versions to compile 5. people using bizzare libs (not so much a problem anymore)
and yes redcarpet and urpmi have helped also switching to kde helped since it does not have alot of carzy random libraries. but it was still aproblem and i realised that i spent more time fixing and configuring than being productive.. that forced me to switch to OSX
1. battery life.. does it need recharging?
2. display.. most watched can take a few bumps and bruises.. i wonder if this can
3. why does teh guy in the picture look so dorky?
i know you ar an AC so i will reply anyway, would you say the same if the mozilla logo was a dino on a black swastika (pointing the nazi way) ? Seriously.
really now, what exactly qulaifies one as a mozilla developer? appreanlty thisguy contributes to mozilla. To make people like you happy, ill say, If there is a better word for it insert that into my original post. Thank you for calling me a liar.
because the guy who made it is such a loser (among other things) that he thinks Stalin was a great benevolent leader.
That probably deserves a darwin award in itself. But its fun to laugh at people like that;)
here is an intersting website by a moz developer (which sadly is not a parody but the REAL thing.. this guy is dead serious).
http://mithgol.pp.ru/Mozilla/
Living near a communist country i have seen what it does to those deemed racially undesirable. Sound familiar?
i know what communism is in theory. But even you HAVE to admit that it has never happened. Every single country that that has a communist label and even those who are fighting for communism have turned into mass murderers. I believ i am i accutae in depicting a system which may have somehwt noble goals but does so through the pain and suffering of millions as evil. I doesnt matter if you say they are not communist (which i might add is a argument used by many aplolgists). Aditinally, Cuba whicjh it appears you accept is a communit country (from this post) accepts china the USSR among others to be other communist countries. If you accpet cuba to be a communist country and they slabghter millions and do the stuff i pointed out, doesnt that imply you accept communits do slaughter millions etc? (which counters your first argument)
Secondly, in your orginal post you siad that these countries that claim to be communist an slaughter millions are not communits (to paraphrase, you said just because they have socilait or communist doesnt make them so) however mozilla does use the sybols posters and slogans made by the USSR as its logo. So, what type of communist system is the ussr? what is mozilla?
here is an intersting website by a moz developer (which sadly is not a parody but the REAL thing.. this guy is dead serious).
http://mithgol.pp.ru/Mozilla/
what do you expect when you give your work away for free? this is something anyone who works on open source projects should wthink about. Ideology is one thing but it alone wont feed you.
Simply put, OSS and free software in genreal is not practical. Giveing stuff away for free makes no money. (something we learned from the.bombs)
If so many companies use the software you sure could have licenced it.
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hinderances to OSS is the image. I say this because ive met people who will use macs but they wont use linux because of the people who promote it as an anti business anti capitalist vehicle. The mozilla logo doesnt go very far in helping remove that image. then there those who genuinely belive that through linux they can bring a revolution of a politicla nature. its unlikely to happen it wil just hurt linux
when some shmuck online will give it to you for free... welcome to the age of kazaa where, if it isnt tangible, taking it without paying isnt considered a crime(by people). (im not trolling)
actually, the software that comes with tah ati tv wonder does do that. Was quite impressed when i saw it the other day
sounds easy enough huh, heh how about you try it once. if you can do it without breaking your system then i will be impressed. heck most posts on the mandrake news group have similar issues.. know what the answer is? reinstall
let me clarify, i meant Gaim2. try installing that on mandrake 9. try the packages on rpmfind, gaims site and urpmi. I was wondering why you were so adamant that it works fine yeah gaim works fine i meant gaim2. and no it is not just a GTK issue. honestly i put up with a lot of shit under linux but that was the last straw,
are you kidding. whos is spreading FUD. I am only telling you of my expeience using linux since 1996. Yes things are getting better, is it ready for prime time . hell no. the fact that no new mandrake binaries will work on 8.1 anymore is pretty bad. If I compile, it may solve the problem, but woudl youspend all your time compiling? try compiling kde 3.1 kdevelop and qt3 and see how long it takes. The fact that you say just recompile as if it is really a snap gives me the impression you dont do it very often. You accuse me of spreading FUD, look at youself. Obviously you have no idea what you are saying. Are you saying my machine is too old to run linux properly and regularly get the latest updates. Try compliling the kde messenger kopete on a pentium pro with 128 MB ram, see how it teakes over a day?( yes, i did comple it) now windows 2000 works just fine runs everything new really nicely too and it doesnt take over a day to install trillian.
linux has a serious binary compatibility isssue. One which linux advocates do not mention but sadly enough has become more an more prevalent these days. It got so bad recetly that i had to reinstall my mandrake 9.0 syatem with 9.1 just to use gaim. Thats pretty bad. Also just try using mandrake 8.x .. hardly any precompiled packages off the web will work fo you.
Its really sad becasue all of the resinatlling and crashing drove me to the point that i swotched to OSX so i sould use a satble desktop.
the major problems are:
1. Gcc changes
2. Glibc changes
3. libpng changes (2 and 3 are not compatible on the same machine)
4. people using beta perl or X11 versions to compile
5. people using bizzare libs (not so much a problem anymore)
and yes redcarpet and urpmi have helped also switching to kde helped since it does not have alot of carzy random libraries. but it was still aproblem and i realised that i spent more time fixing and configuring than being productive.. that forced me to switch to OSX
I just checked at at a local store xp home is like 160. and since you have to buy MS office anyway to make good use of this.. not a big difference
hey how is this a troll? im serious, fm broadcast is how i do it
FM broadcast .. ok thats 2 words..
Read the Fucking ID??
1. battery life.. does it need recharging? 2. display .. most watched can take a few bumps and bruises.. i wonder if this can
3. why does teh guy in the picture look so dorky?
yeah thats something i strongly agree with. its sad that in this day and age it is atill acceptable to casually present communist insignia
scroll down, hes promoting stalinsim. communism (stalinsin, maoism etc) and nazim have alot on common
i know you ar an AC so i will reply anyway, would you say the same if the mozilla logo was a dino on a black swastika (pointing the nazi way) ? Seriously.
really now, what exactly qulaifies one as a mozilla developer? appreanlty thisguy contributes to mozilla. To make people like you happy, ill say, If there is a better word for it insert that into my original post. Thank you for calling me a liar.
because the guy who made it is such a loser (among other things) that he thinks Stalin was a great benevolent leader. ;)
That probably deserves a darwin award in itself. But its fun to laugh at people like that
here is an intersting website by a moz developer (which sadly is not a parody but the REAL thing.. this guy is dead serious). http://mithgol.pp.ru/Mozilla/
Both sad and funny at the same time.
and years of training.. i too am golden master!
linux 1% apple 2-5 %? i dont see apple losing much.
sfari 1 and the new ichat is on saftware update and at apple.com!!! yes!! posting with safari 1!
of course 10.1 is free if you have 10.0 thus there is no reason to use 10.1 still
Living near a communist country i have seen what it does to those deemed racially undesirable. Sound familiar?
i know what communism is in theory. But even you HAVE to admit that it has never happened. Every single country that that has a communist label and even those who are fighting for communism have turned into mass murderers. I believ i am i accutae in depicting a system which may have somehwt noble goals but does so through the pain and suffering of millions as evil. I doesnt matter if you say they are not communist (which i might add is a argument used by many aplolgists). Aditinally, Cuba whicjh it appears you accept is a communit country (from this post) accepts china the USSR among others to be other communist countries. If you accpet cuba to be a communist country and they slabghter millions and do the stuff i pointed out, doesnt that imply you accept communits do slaughter millions etc? (which counters your first argument)
Secondly, in your orginal post you siad that these countries that claim to be communist an slaughter millions are not communits (to paraphrase, you said just because they have socilait or communist doesnt make them so) however mozilla does use the sybols posters and slogans made by the USSR as its logo. So, what type of communist system is the ussr? what is mozilla?
here is an intersting website by a moz developer (which sadly is not a parody but the REAL thing.. this guy is dead serious).
http://mithgol.pp.ru/Mozilla/
I saw this an left OSS and mozilla all together.
what do you expect when you give your work away for free? this is something anyone who works on open source projects should wthink about. Ideology is one thing but it alone wont feed you. .bombs)
Simply put, OSS and free software in genreal is not practical. Giveing stuff away for free makes no money. (something we learned from the
If so many companies use the software you sure could have licenced it.
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