Actually the old code might be better. And I don't defend blindly.
It has been my repeated experience that "Cruddy and complex" code is that way because the problem space is cruddy and complex and thats what bugfixes do to code.
You throw out that complexity and you throw out accumulated knowledge. I have yet to see a second system or third or fourth that managed to keep the bugfixes of the previous system. These issues return and they are accompanied by new ones.
In this case there might be a reason to thow out this particular baby with this particular bathwater: the only thing that new code gives you is resident experts on the new code. If you have staff turnover (Which MS always does), they may have already lost the resident experts on the previous design.
So that brings up the next point: MS may now be jumping its proverbial code shark: They've not increased in price in 3 years: stock options are worthless, they're losing people, and the hardware vendors are saying "When are you going to get us a decent 64 bit system?". They can't seem to ship secure code and now they throw out working subsystems, possibly because they've got a brain drain. MS owns the office market, but they're starting to really fall behind in shipping modern security at the OS level.
The TFA is content free but he's also wrong: The net has several peers in terms of obfuscating punditry: The entire popular media, and Think Tanks, in particular.
Unfortunately you speak of "in design parameter performance"; Tube amps are superior to transistor circuitry in only one area: specific response to transients and signals outside of their designed dynamic range. The real difference lies in why tube amps are used in the best studios as mike preamps. When you get a peak signal from a cymbal hit, a transistor amp does a hard clip. The wave form has a flat top. Analyzed in a spectrum analyzer, you'll see 3rd and 5th order harmonics predominate. In stark and harsh contrast, a tube amp tends to have a rounded top on a clip. On the spectrum analyzer, you get 2nd and 4th order harmonics. For those who are musicians, you'll note that 3rd and 5th order harmonics are not musically related, while 2nd and 4th are the octave and the 2nd octave. The octave distortion is more pleasant to the ear. There might truly be more distortion in the tube amp, oh sure, but it doesn't SOUND as bad.
Imagine you were the wire service that provided the article. This is a good way of identifying your text. A copy paste into an editor loses the color tags. Then they've gotta clean it. Its a form of copy protection. Security by inconvenience. (hey, isn't that what MS provides?... (Obligatory MS baiting, as per Slashdot Rules Paragraph 1.2.b)
This is waaaaay too intentionally worded. "Bad apples" "I'm tracking this" -- Can YOU say FUD? Even on his own people?
"Used to use Exchange" -- Horrors, does this mean than he uses a REAL email server, like Qmail/postfix/sendmail, now?
Allow me to go off the deep end here. Here it is, the New Years Party Document(s). Convince me the thinking here was not clouded by a hangover.
Dateline Redmond, 2002. MS has convinced themselves and some poor deluded fools that they are relevant in mission critical computing!
This document, assuming that it contains any actual instructions from MS upper to assist new sales, assumes one thing: That the contacts the sales staff have know anything about whats happening at the grass roots of a large organization. Stop and think about that for a sec. Do YOU tell your CEO that you used linux to build an mp3 server? Do you tell the CEO that you used linux to make a print server, or your email gateway? Why would you? They don't Care. They just want it to work.
I was part of the protest when this issue first got raised. Someone (YES, A SINGLE PERSON) called the Attorney General's office to complain about Soldier of Fortune. Now I particularly dislike SOF, but I felt I needed to speak out. I spoke to the mainstream press, along with the actual organizer of the event. The organizer, Iambe, a columnist for UF, amongst other things, spoke to the attorney general's office, and they promised they'd be sane about it. It looks like they took what we told them to do (just implement ESRB), and perverted it in the usual Canadian government way , IE, try to ban or tax or "license" things it deems objectionable. My biggest complaint about BC is the extreme lengths the government will go to be "Politically Correct". At least they didn't try to institute their own review board like their first idea. Man. Such idiocy.
Cushy integrated devel enviroments like Visual Studio and the like encourage lazy thinking, burying functionality behind buttons.
The whole unix mindset of small tools strung together with pipes encourages modular functionality oriented thinking. If your software has to work right command line, reading from a pipe, you have to have the base functionality correct. So its very difficult to get lazy and forget to make the real functions of the system robust, while you play with user interface.
By far the most stable user mode software I have ever used always seems to come from a command line style core and a gui or admin interface built on top of it. Instead of gui first and function second. There's a reason why the visual programming CASE tools never really caught on.
Which version of Linux SMP are you looking at to make these comments? Last I read on the linux-kernel list, Linus detailed that linux threads do not switch CPUs. Also, From my last look at the scheduler, there is a big preference given to the previous processor a process was run on, so as to not incur a TLB flush. But on an overloaded box, TLB flushes are a huge overhead. But we are talking about where the # of running process == # of avail CPUs. So I don't see the "processes rotated thru all available cpus" that you claim.
Ghod I wish I could go. This looks like who's who in linux/Open Source/cool stuff. Is there any hope in hell that this will be about technology, not hype or bandwagon jumping?
ActiveState has always wanted to be in bed with whoever it can get in bed with. First Microsoft. Then O'Reilly (Perl Resource Kit for NT), now Microsoft again. Can you blame them?
When you are small firm, without a strong case for an IPO, you need to hitch your wagon to the stars.
In this case, the technology industry has about 6 real stars: M$, O'Reilly and the rest of the book publishers, Sun and the rest of the Unix Makers, (The PC makers as a whole), the Open source movement, and the Internet.
ActiveState has hitched itself to 3 of the six. Big surprise. By anyones logic they should be financially successful.
Whether they are _pure_ in the light of the Open Source movements ideals is completely irrelavant, to them.
There is NO way that M$haft would be on this thing like they are if they weren't SURE they would win.
In my paraniod delusional world they have discovered the magical machine / config / software / load combination where NT actually _DOES_ outperform linux. So much so that they are betting the farm on it.
One thing the Linux community cannot afford right now is this kind of credibility being conferred to Microsoft.
MindCraft 1 showed how bad linux performs when mis-tuned. I have a feeling that the stuff I've been reading on the linux-kernel list shows that:
a) we HAD a thundering herd problem under load ( I gather its been fixed. Yay. ) b) Apache is not the right tool for raw thruput of a webserver. Who would trust 2200 hits/second to a single box anyway, no matter what OS/Hardware combo? c) Wake-one semantics on accept(2) is needed for heavy load web (and probably file) servers d) channel bonding is more powerful than was previously assumed. And last but not least
e) if you crash during a performance test, you get another try IF YOU ARE MICROSOFT. If you fold back performance and continue to work, even though heavily mistuned YOU ARE DISCRIBED as having "POOR SCALIBILITY", not "GREAT STABILITY"
God I hated high school. I got the shit beat out of me several times. Not even 1 date because I was "different" and "a nerd". Small school, just 300 students.
It was worse because of that, because I didn't even have one friend to talk to. The cliques, the jocks and their bimbos.
Shit what a piss poor way to spend 4 years. I ended up going to a community college instead of university, because university required 1 more year in that hell hole (Grade 13, can you believe it?)
Pisses me off even now, and that was 20 years ago.
Why is this happening more often lately?
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The short answer is its not.
It used to happen 20 years ago too. Just the tools used are different.
What I mean is this: given a anti-social, violent and disturbed child who decides to do something about it, 20 years ago, access to weapons was limited (really) to knives and clubs. Access to ideas was limited to much less graphic and much less sensationalized violence than is available today.
These days the kid can get a gun and a make a bomb. They can see films and games that seem to glorify violence.
The kid is anti social already and disturbed and so, unlike most sane humans he decides he's going to do it for real instead of playing another round of Doom.
When I was younger and growing up in small town Canada, the violent kids ones got into fistfights at hockey games and in the schoolyard. We steered clear of them.
What I see here is a similar though much more extreme example. Instead of punching the crap out of some kid from another town in the name of macho, they do this atrocious act.
Why? I have a theory: Call it the influence of "natural born killers" on an already sick mind.
When I was growing up there was a strong societal bias against "Extreme" violence. No knives, no clubs. Guns were not even thought of as being used on people. They were for hunting groundhogs.
Near as I can see these kids didn't have that.
Blame that on truly disturbed kid not getting the message.
You should try the Fraser Valley homegrown, then. Apparently its stronger than what you are used to.
Its hydroponically grown and about 10 times stronger than the stuff we did when I was growing up.
Its scary shit. I was fucked up after two hits from one joint. I was wasted for a full day and useless for 3. This stuff has crystals of THC on it large enough to see with the naked eye. Remember Ross Robagliati? Thats the stuff that was in his system. Its TOO strong.
Maybe I sound self righteous but really, ANYTHING that impedes my coding ability is just plain stupid.
As for being a light weight, maybe you outta look at your own habits and decide if fucking yourself up with drugs of any sort is makes you a heavy weight.
My use of caffeine and/or alcohol is probably less than most office workers: 3 to 4 cups of starbucks a day, and maybe 3 glasses of beer 1 day a week. That makes me a lightweight for caffeine and alcohol too.
Really? I must be in some kind of weird space. Me and most of the programmers I know online and RL don't do any drugs except caffeine and alcohol.
I don't because drugs make me stupid, for days. Last joint I smoked, I could not code for 3 days. I've never tried coke or anything more intense, but from what I see it looks like it kills your attention span. Great coding assistance, that.
That being said, I'm 30 something and not 20 and indestructible.
Do you 20 something people do drugs to Help your skills and abilities? Does it work? (sarcasm).
This guy can write clearly. I'm glad he's on our side. He's hopeful that the marketing guys can get it. So am I. I'm a bit more jaded than he is.
My spin on it is this: If the linux install base is equal to the commercial unix install base then the independent software vendors Have to port to linux. No question.
Now desktop applications are a different story. Where one big (solaris|AIX|SCO|HPUX) box exists, there are 50 pc's. Running microsoftware.
We straddle the two worlds: datacentre and desktop. I run a linux desktop and use a linux server, as well as SCO and Solaris servers. What needs to happen is
Fully installed OEM systems.
Full desktop documentation, on said OEM systems
Someone needs to write a scripted Auto tuning tool, that can fix up the open file limit, the ulimits and such for big servers (so that catastrophe at MindCraft won't happen again)
A full "Compatibility Suite" of office productivity software. So that MS Office addicts can double click on a word document in their email and have (wordperfect|applix|staroffice) open it and convert it properly. And double click on a url and have (netscape|opera|lynx|whatever) open it properly. This ALMOST there people. Its so close I can taste it. Gnome and KDE are very close. I use both. The productivity apps and the drag/drop interactivity is getting close to perfect.
we need someone to put together this type of office system, get it fully installed on an OEM box and ship it to Jesse Berst, the guy at Salon, and any other so-called technology writer.
Worse still, LOC is a horrible productivity measure esp when comparing brace styles: if (thing) { stuff; } versus: if (thing) stuff; the former being 4 times as "productive" as the latter.
Hey guys: the one true brace style is not as productive as other styles....Grin...
The real issue here is the current way that the USPO allows you to patent an idea, witness Colliers patent on multimedia. Thats like patenting the car or the suspension bridge or the *IDEA* of a mousetrap. If rigorously enforced, it stifles creativity. But instead if they allow only the patent on their implementation of their idea, then it leaves the potential for much better mousetraps, though no one could copy your mousetrap with the rotating steel knives and the lemon fresh scent. Innovation then would be supported and people would be protected from outright stealing of your implementation.
I knew that first article was written as a wake up call. A bit grandstanded, but still meant to examine the phenomenom from HIS side.
I've always liked Eric's writing. He's NOT a leader, anymore than Thomas Paine was an actual Leader of the American independence movement. Paine's "Rights of Man" was incredibly important advocacy in the independence movement. And there was disagreement with it.
The "Cryptonomicon" mentioned on a previous article is equally as important as "Cathedral and Bazaar". I disagree with minor points of both essays. BUT Both are clear documents that really explain the ethics, the mindset, the intent and the direction that the community wants.
We as a community deride self promoting demagogues and others who seek to co-opt the free & open source community for their own ends. This is healthy, neccessary and appropriate. What is happening, however is the same lack of basic understanding and Thought that we love to bitch about in "Lusers, AOL'ers, Script Kiddies" is coming from "Slashdot Kiddies".
I for one, am not impressed. For crying out loud, don't you insert favorite epithet here people Think?
My apologies, Bruce. This is not an attack on you. Your contributions to the community are exemplary. I wish I could say the same for myself.
I'd heard that RMS's RSI was better now. I forget where I read it. Guess it was wrong.
Don't you feel that the hype is starting to get a bit excessive? Yes there are tons of opportunists and media whores demanding sound bites from you and ESR and Linus and RMS. The shitty part of this whole thing is that all you guys are all extremely intelligent people and therefore extremely opinionated and extremely valuable the open source community.
I'm opinionated too, and I respect all your opinions. What annoys me about RMS is his lack of respect for other opinions especially when you disagree with him about the commercial aspects.
I join you in your opinion that RMS has been short changed, but with an addition: RMS's output has been short on CODE and long on Rhetoric lately. The community is just saying What have you done for us lately? to RMS.
Linus and Alan and Dave and the rest of the kernel team get TONS of hacker points, because they are long on code and short on rhetoric. The media keep asking Linus for sound bites, and he's very understated. That one of the things that the community loves about him. ESR's output is historically high on code (I use fetchmail every day), but lately his code output has been overtaken by his rhetoric output. Word to the wise: In your own document, that points to people who have less respect in the community. Same goes for Bruce P. Guys, don't damage your rep like RMS has. While I am very appreciative of all that RMS has done, his holier than thou attitude is getting a bit thin. RMS: Code some more. Before you jump on my ass, NO I have not done major Open source works. A line or two in the kernel and 10 lines in xkeycaps.
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Actually the old code might be better. And I don't defend blindly.
It has been my repeated experience that "Cruddy and complex" code is that way because the problem space is cruddy and complex and thats what bugfixes do to code.
You throw out that complexity and you throw out accumulated knowledge. I have yet to see a second system or third or fourth that managed to keep the bugfixes of the previous system. These issues return and they are accompanied by new ones.
In this case there might be a reason to thow out this particular baby with this particular bathwater: the only thing that new code gives you is resident experts on the new code. If you have staff turnover (Which MS always does), they may have already lost the resident experts on the previous design.
So that brings up the next point: MS may now be jumping its proverbial code shark: They've not increased in price in 3 years: stock options are worthless, they're losing people, and the hardware vendors are saying "When are you going to get us a decent 64 bit system?". They can't seem to ship secure code and now they throw out working subsystems, possibly because they've got a brain drain. MS owns the office market, but they're starting to really fall behind in shipping modern security at the OS level.
The TFA is content free but he's also wrong: The net has several peers in terms of obfuscating punditry: The entire popular media, and Think Tanks, in particular.
Arrgh.. gut busting.... must... not... use.. mod.. points.
Unfortunately you speak of "in design parameter performance"; Tube amps are superior to transistor circuitry in only one area: specific response to transients and signals outside of their designed dynamic range. The real difference lies in why tube amps are used in the best studios as mike preamps. When you get a peak signal from a cymbal hit, a transistor amp does a hard clip. The wave form has a flat top. Analyzed in a spectrum analyzer, you'll see 3rd and 5th order harmonics predominate. In stark and harsh contrast, a tube amp tends to have a rounded top on a clip. On the spectrum analyzer, you get 2nd and 4th order harmonics. For those who are musicians, you'll note that 3rd and 5th order harmonics are not musically related, while 2nd and 4th are the octave and the 2nd octave. The octave distortion is more pleasant to the ear. There might truly be more distortion in the tube amp, oh sure, but it doesn't SOUND as bad.
Imagine you were the wire service that provided the article. This is a good way of identifying your text. A copy paste into an editor loses the color tags. Then they've gotta clean it. Its a form of copy protection. Security by inconvenience. (hey, isn't that what MS provides? ... (Obligatory MS baiting, as per Slashdot Rules Paragraph 1.2.b)
This is waaaaay too intentionally worded. "Bad apples" "I'm tracking this" -- Can YOU say FUD? Even on his own people?
"Used to use Exchange" -- Horrors, does this mean than he uses a REAL email server, like Qmail/postfix/sendmail, now?
Allow me to go off the deep end here. Here it is, the New Years Party Document(s). Convince me the thinking here was not clouded by a hangover.
Dateline Redmond, 2002. MS has convinced themselves and some poor deluded fools that they are relevant in mission critical computing!
This document, assuming that it contains any actual instructions from MS upper to assist new sales, assumes one thing: That the contacts the sales staff have know anything about whats happening at the grass roots of a large organization. Stop and think about that for a sec. Do YOU tell your CEO that you used linux to build an mp3 server? Do you tell the CEO that you used linux to make a print server, or your email gateway? Why would you? They don't Care. They just want it to work.
What do you say folks? Should we teach him the secret handshake?
I was part of the protest when this issue first got raised. Someone (YES, A SINGLE PERSON) called the Attorney General's office to complain about Soldier of Fortune. Now I particularly dislike SOF, but I felt I needed to speak out. I spoke to the mainstream press, along with the actual organizer of the event. The organizer, Iambe, a columnist for UF, amongst other things, spoke to the attorney general's office, and they promised they'd be sane about it. It looks like they took what we told them to do (just implement ESRB), and perverted it in the usual Canadian government way , IE, try to ban or tax or "license" things it deems objectionable. My biggest complaint about BC is the extreme lengths the government will go to be "Politically Correct". At least they didn't try to institute their own review board like their first idea. Man. Such idiocy.
The whole unix mindset of small tools strung together with pipes encourages modular functionality oriented thinking. If your software has to work right command line, reading from a pipe, you have to have the base functionality correct. So its very difficult to get lazy and forget to make the real functions of the system robust, while you play with user interface.
By far the most stable user mode software I have ever used always seems to come from a command line style core and a gui or admin interface built on top of it. Instead of gui first and function second. There's a reason why the visual programming CASE tools never really caught on.
Which version of Linux SMP are you looking at to make these comments? Last I read on the linux-kernel list, Linus detailed that linux threads do not switch CPUs.
Also, From my last look at the scheduler, there is a big preference given to the previous processor a process was run on, so as to not incur a TLB flush.
But on an overloaded box, TLB flushes are a huge overhead. But we are talking about where the # of running process == # of avail CPUs. So I don't see the "processes rotated thru all available cpus" that you claim.
Works great. 4 inputs, both keyboard and mice connector styles. Cheap too, at around $150.
Ghod I wish I could go. This looks like who's who in linux/Open Source/cool stuff.
Is there any hope in hell that this will be about technology, not hype or bandwagon jumping?
When you are small firm, without a strong case for an IPO, you need to hitch your wagon to the stars.
In this case, the technology industry has about 6 real stars: M$, O'Reilly and the rest of the book publishers, Sun and the rest of the Unix Makers, (The PC makers as a whole), the Open source movement, and the Internet.
ActiveState has hitched itself to 3 of the six. Big surprise. By anyones logic they should be financially successful.
Whether they are _pure_ in the light of the Open Source movements ideals is completely irrelavant, to them.
In my paraniod delusional world they have discovered the magical machine / config / software / load combination where NT actually _DOES_ outperform linux. So much so that they are betting the farm on it.
One thing the Linux community cannot afford right now is this kind of credibility being conferred to Microsoft.
MindCraft 1 showed how bad linux performs when mis-tuned. I have a feeling that the stuff I've been reading on the linux-kernel list shows that:
a) we HAD a thundering herd problem under load ( I gather its been fixed. Yay. )
b) Apache is not the right tool for raw thruput of a webserver. Who would trust 2200 hits/second to a single box anyway, no matter what OS/Hardware combo?
c) Wake-one semantics on accept(2) is needed for heavy load web (and probably file) servers
d) channel bonding is more powerful than was previously assumed.
And last but not least
e) if you crash during a performance test, you get another try IF YOU ARE MICROSOFT. If you fold back performance and continue to work, even though heavily mistuned YOU ARE DISCRIBED as having "POOR SCALIBILITY", not "GREAT STABILITY"
It was worse because of that, because I didn't even have one friend to talk to. The cliques, the jocks and their bimbos.
Shit what a piss poor way to spend 4 years. I ended up going to a community college instead of university, because university required 1 more year in that hell hole (Grade 13, can you believe it?)
Pisses me off even now, and that was 20 years ago.
It used to happen 20 years ago too. Just the tools used are different.
What I mean is this: given a anti-social, violent and disturbed child who decides to do something about it, 20 years ago, access to weapons was limited (really) to knives and clubs. Access to ideas was limited to much less graphic and much less sensationalized violence than is available today.
These days the kid can get a gun and a make a bomb. They can see films and games that seem to glorify violence.
The kid is anti social already and disturbed and so, unlike most sane humans he decides he's going to do it for real instead of playing another round of Doom.
When I was younger and growing up in small town Canada, the violent kids ones got into fistfights at hockey games and in the schoolyard. We steered clear of them.
What I see here is a similar though much more extreme example. Instead of punching the crap out of some kid from another town in the name of macho, they do this atrocious act.
Why? I have a theory: Call it the influence of "natural born killers" on an already sick mind.
When I was growing up there was a strong societal bias against "Extreme" violence. No knives, no clubs. Guns were not even thought of as being used on people. They were for hunting groundhogs.
Near as I can see these kids didn't have that.
Blame that on truly disturbed kid not getting the message.
Its hydroponically grown and about 10 times stronger than the stuff we did when I was growing up.
Its scary shit. I was fucked up after two hits from one joint. I was wasted for a full day and useless for 3. This stuff has crystals of THC on it large enough to see with the naked eye. Remember Ross Robagliati? Thats the stuff that was in his system. Its TOO strong.
Maybe I sound self righteous but really, ANYTHING that impedes my coding ability is just plain stupid.
As for being a light weight, maybe you outta look at your own habits and decide if fucking yourself up with drugs of any sort is makes you a heavy weight.
My use of caffeine and/or alcohol is probably less than most office workers: 3 to 4 cups of starbucks a day, and maybe 3 glasses of beer 1 day a week. That makes me a lightweight for caffeine and alcohol too.
I don't because drugs make me stupid, for days. Last joint I smoked, I could not code for 3 days. I've never tried coke or anything more intense, but from what I see it looks like it kills your attention span. Great coding assistance, that.
That being said, I'm 30 something and not 20 and indestructible.
Do you 20 something people do drugs to Help your skills and abilities? Does it work? (sarcasm).
My spin on it is this: If the linux install base is equal to the commercial unix install base then the independent software vendors Have to port to linux. No question.
Now desktop applications are a different story. Where one big (solaris|AIX|SCO|HPUX) box exists, there are 50 pc's. Running microsoftware.
We straddle the two worlds: datacentre and desktop. I run a linux desktop and use a linux server, as well as SCO and Solaris servers. What needs to happen is
Fully installed OEM systems.
Full desktop documentation, on said OEM systems
Someone needs to write a scripted Auto tuning tool, that can fix up the open file limit, the ulimits and such for big servers (so that catastrophe at MindCraft won't happen again)
A full "Compatibility Suite" of office productivity software. So that MS Office addicts can double click on a word document in their email and have (wordperfect|applix|staroffice) open it and convert it properly. And double click on a url and have (netscape|opera|lynx|whatever) open it properly. This ALMOST there people.
Its so close I can taste it. Gnome and KDE are very close. I use both. The productivity apps and the drag/drop interactivity is getting close to perfect.
we need someone to put together this type of office system, get it fully installed on an OEM box and ship it to Jesse Berst, the guy at Salon, and any other so-called technology writer.
DUH.
if (thing)
{
stuff;
}
versus:
if (thing) stuff;
Worse still, LOC is a horrible productivity measure esp when comparing brace styles: if (thing) { stuff; } versus: if (thing) stuff; the former being 4 times as "productive" as the latter.
Hey guys: the one true brace style is not as productive as other styles. ...Grin...
The real issue here is the current way that the USPO allows you to patent an idea, witness Colliers patent on multimedia. Thats like patenting the car or the suspension bridge or the *IDEA* of a mousetrap. If rigorously enforced, it stifles creativity. But instead if they allow only the patent on their implementation of their idea, then it leaves the potential for much better mousetraps, though no one could copy your mousetrap with the rotating steel knives and the lemon fresh scent. Innovation then would be supported and people would be protected from outright stealing of your implementation.
I've always liked Eric's writing. He's NOT a leader, anymore than Thomas Paine was an actual Leader of the American independence movement. Paine's "Rights of Man" was incredibly important advocacy in the independence movement. And there was disagreement with it.
The "Cryptonomicon" mentioned on a previous article is equally as important as "Cathedral and Bazaar". I disagree with minor points of both essays. BUT Both are clear documents that really explain the ethics, the mindset, the intent and the direction that the community wants.
We as a community deride self promoting demagogues and others who seek to co-opt the free & open source community for their own ends. This is healthy, neccessary and appropriate. What is happening, however is the same lack of basic understanding and Thought that we love to bitch about in "Lusers, AOL'ers, Script Kiddies" is coming from "Slashdot Kiddies".
I for one, am not impressed. For crying out loud, don't you insert favorite epithet here people Think?
I'd heard that RMS's RSI was better now. I forget where I read it. Guess it was wrong.
Don't you feel that the hype is starting to get a bit excessive? Yes there are tons of opportunists and media whores demanding sound bites from you and ESR and Linus and RMS. The shitty part of this whole thing is that all you guys are all extremely intelligent people and therefore extremely opinionated and extremely valuable the open source community.
I'm opinionated too, and I respect all your opinions. What annoys me about RMS is his lack of respect for other opinions especially when you disagree with him about the commercial aspects.
Linus and Alan and Dave and the rest of the kernel team get TONS of hacker points, because they are long on code and short on rhetoric.
The media keep asking Linus for sound bites, and he's very understated. That one of the things that the community loves about him.
ESR's output is historically high on code (I use fetchmail every day), but lately his code output has been overtaken by his rhetoric output. Word to the wise: In your own document, that points to people who have less respect in the community. Same goes for Bruce P. Guys, don't damage your rep like RMS has.
While I am very appreciative of all that RMS has done, his holier than thou attitude is getting a bit thin. RMS: Code some more.
Before you jump on my ass, NO I have not done major Open source works. A line or two in the kernel and 10 lines in xkeycaps.