Microsoft has bought or stolen everything that has made them any money!
Most open source projects out there that are related to Microsoft "innovations" are not innovative in what they do but rather how they do it. Poptop is clearly a better pptp server than Windows built in, yet that was a Microsoft protocol. It is more secure, and very easy to configure the right way. Many things brought to Linux by way of Microsoft are re-implemented in innovative ways.
I replaced my config file with the freshrpms, probably should have saved it, but didn't. Would you mind pasting the updates-testing so that other fools like myself could try?
My prediction is that there will be more intrusive ads, instead of pop ups (pop unders, etc) there will be more ads like on Yahoo where you have to wait for the timeout to be redirected to the final page. These ads are more like commercials on t.v and are easily enforceable on all browsers.
Microsoft did not create DHCP. Hell Microsoft didn't have a tcp/ip stack for Windows 3.1, it wasn't until Windows 98 that it became a default (Win95 included tcp/ip, but not by default). DHCP was created by by the IETF DHC working group
at a certain point, if you keep loading enough garbage hardware into a cluster, it becomes detrimental to the performance. It must be fast enough to actually help, else it is just a waste.
> 2. FreeBSD is far more secure then Linux and windows. There is a reason that major ISPs use an OS like FreeBSD, Not nearly the amount of bugs that are found in Linux and Windows. And it is far more stable. (Try reading about it)
Actually as you state in 3, Linux is just a kernel. There have been a few bugs here and there, but because Linux is just a kernel there have been no remote root exploits! Those would be in the daemons, which also can run on FreeBSD
> 4. Every time I have personally compared the speed of applications running on FreeBSD to Linux (on the same machine) FreeBSD has been the winner.
Are you interested in getting work done or do you constantly redo your work on the same machine in both OS's? Where are the numbers buddy? Come back with numbers.
> 5. BSD is the best operating system to run a network server like apache, or exim. Believe it. It's true. There is a reason yahoo runs on it. I have been a part of ten ISPs now and ALL of them have used *BSD for critical servers.
Ya-Who? Who the fuck are they? Let's not forget google is run on Linux!
SMP on Linux 2.4 (Read Stable Branch) is still a ways better than anything in *BSD arsonal. FreeBSD didn't get decent SMP until 5.x (Read Dev Branch).
Most non-open source apps are for Linux, can't beat the real thing!
Hardware support is pathetic in Linux compared to Windows. However... hardware support in FreeBSD is pathetic compared to Linux!
Don't get me wrong, I like FreeBSD and am actually typing this on my workstation (running FreeBSD), but I still feel that Linux edges it out in certain arena's. If you're just running Open Source Software on a single processor, older machine, then FreeBSD is perfect for you! Otherwise Linux is still king in of the Freenix's.
I have been using GNU binutils, GNU ld and GNU strip on Solaris. I can safely say that Solaris x86 and Sparc both interoperate with the GNU utilities like a champ. I've never had any issues with either on boht platforms.
As for the LDFLAGS, I've run into that a few times.
Actually that is a very good point, I had not seen it from that perspective. I mean it wasn't until recently that http 1.1 was finally ratified and that was in use for as long as I can remember.
Hehe, that's not quite what I was saying. Although I have noticed this as a fairly standard configuration in quite a few companies. Which is reminiscent of an article on slashdot a few days ago. Link I personally always set up a yum repository or another means of updating.
My point was that the last AC didn't seem to want to have RedHat Linux for anything other than the purpose of testing some precompiled software that is for RedHat Linux. Not only would it probably run with very little work on another distro, but if you are just using Linux to learn the app there is no reason why you can't firewall and/or disconnect from the net and learn. It's not like RedHat Linux will self destruct come Jan 1st. And it's not like this won't directly apply to RedHat Enterprise or any of the many rebuilds.
I use a custom install of Tsunami Codec Pack, and the latest DivX.
I've yet to run into a video I couldn't play in Windows with mplayer2.exe. I just wish that bloated piece of shit wmplayer.exe would stop taking over the damn associations.
On Linux, I just use good ol' mplayer tweaked out with all the Windows dll's. That works better than anything!
My friend gave me an HD that he didn't need anymore, and it had a password set. My laptop did not recognize the drive when I didn't enter the password and my friend didn't remember his password.
Just by dumb luck, I happen to have an external USB enclosure and I figured what the hell. I put the drive in this and it worked fine as an external drive. However no amount of fdisk'ing, low level formatting or anything would remove the password. Oh well, it makes for a great Ghost'ing/portable hd that works (with fat16 or fat32) with just about every major OS out there.
I believe it stores the information in some sort of NVRAM on the hard disk. Using a dumber implementation of IDE (I.E. the USB Enclosure) got around it, so it must require the BIOS to honor the password stored in NVRAM. Don't know much else.
The machines tend to fail to recognize the hard disk when the password is not entered. When you do boot up off a dos floppy to attempt to fdisk, it doesn't find any hard disks (assuming it's the only disk in the machine).
> Yes, it's a joke if you're a Debian geek. If not you probably won't understand.
Naw, not a Debian geek, but not closed off to the world of Free *NIX outside of RedHat. Mostly a RedHat/OpenBSD'er actually, right tool for the right job.
Personally I opted to rebuild my own RedHat Enterprise Rebuild, have scripted and yumified my own update system for my servers and workstations.
I would have released it, but I was too lazy to sit there and remove RedHat trademarks on software they mark as GPL. Kind of funny how their packages and artwork are licensed GPL and still gotta be removed before distribution!
Name : redhat-artwork Source RPM: redhat-artwork-0.73.2-1E.src.rpm License: GPL URL : http://www.redhat.com Summary : Artwork for Red Hat default look-and-feel
I don't see why, on the copyright side they give me the right to redistribute ala GPL, but on the trademark side they would viciously go after me if I did.
Are you the same troll from the last thread about ping'ing and routers? Eh...n/m
As far as running software from other companies on RedHat, there is no reason why you can't just run WhiteBox, Caosity or TaosLinux, all free RedHat Enterprise Rebuilds.
That's the point, there are options! Had you found or built or even (God Forbid) paid for your own RedHat Enterprise 2.1 then you wouldn't be having any issues with staying up to date. If you don't want to renew your service agreement after a year, simply download the src.rpm and rpmbuild --rebuild them via a script. No big deal.
If you truly are just doing this to learn XYZ Commercial Software, then build and firewall that machine off from the rest of the world and run whatever version of RedHat you like with the software that you want until you learn it. The knowledge doesn't just go away because you didn't pay for RedHat.
Also you may keep your cars for five years, but you probably bought it too. If someone gave you a clunker and it lasted a year, you wouldn't be complaining and would probably be grateful that it lasted that long.
1) RedHat is Not Linux! 2) Debian has support well over five years, hell unstable has been unstable for what seems like five years! 3) If you are interested in staying with your existing RedHat install after the EOL, you can compile your own code or pay for a service that does it for you. When Microsoft EOL's a product, you are SOL! 4) There are quite a few RedHat Enterprise rebuild that you can download for free (Caosity, TaosLinux, WhiteBox) and use that for FREE! 5) Just because Microsoft had five years of support for their older versions of Windows doesn't mean that will continue. They seem to be pushing licensing 6.0, which seems more like leased software and they will use that to cram upgrades down peoples throats.
I could go on for quite a while, OSS has options. Windows does NOT and that is the power of OSS.
How many years of your life have you spent shitting? How many years of your life have you spent eating? How many years of your life have you spent breathing?
Answer to all 3 is probably all your life, however this doesn't mean that you have lived three times your age!
> Ahh, if only MS hadn't crushed netscape we might actually have a standard that is actually followed (rather than re-written as MS sees fit).
*aHeM* Netscape, pre-Microsoft-killing, was not anywhere near being standard. The last version of Netscape that supported the standards properly was probably Netscape 3.01. After that they too tried to pull Microsofts game on Microsoft, embrace/extend/etc. However Microsoft ultimately won due to the tight grip on the desktop.
Walgreens entire set up for their pharmacies is based on a locked down NT4.0. I wonder what major corps that relied upon MS are going to do now? Probably asking themselves the same question all those companies that rolled out RedHat Linux not too long ago are asking themselves now.
At least with the EOL of RedHat, you still CAN roll your own updates.
I actually purchased CDRWIN, instead of getting the hack of Astalavista, and when I reinstalled my machine it refused to take my license because it said that my license was too old. I did however give up on trying to use Windows as a Desktop. K3b is so much nicer anyways.
Of course it's not disabled on the system, because in fact his machine can generate and will generate pings internally. Just because it is blocked in transit doesn't mean it wasn't generated. Besides no one is going to sit there and remove ping and replace it with echo "ping is disabled". That would be a stupid move, using ping is useful in diagnosing a lot of intranet problems.
It's quite obvious that you aren't a sysadmin, probably a developer much like the tard that wrote this article.
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Microsoft has bought or stolen everything that has made them any money!
Most open source projects out there that are related to Microsoft "innovations" are not innovative in what they do but rather how they do it. Poptop is clearly a better pptp server than Windows built in, yet that was a Microsoft protocol. It is more secure, and very easy to configure the right way. Many things brought to Linux by way of Microsoft are re-implemented in innovative ways.
I replaced my config file with the freshrpms, probably should have saved it, but didn't. Would you mind pasting the updates-testing so that other fools like myself could try?
Thanks
My prediction is that there will be more intrusive ads, instead of pop ups (pop unders, etc) there will be more ads like on Yahoo where you have to wait for the timeout to be redirected to the final page. These ads are more like commercials on t.v and are easily enforceable on all browsers.
Click here for more information on DHCP.
Microsoft did not create DHCP. Hell Microsoft didn't have a tcp/ip stack for Windows 3.1, it wasn't until Windows 98 that it became a default (Win95 included tcp/ip, but not by default). DHCP was created by by the IETF DHC working group
at a certain point, if you keep loading enough garbage hardware into a cluster, it becomes detrimental to the performance. It must be fast enough to actually help, else it is just a waste.
Unless you use the Intel Compilers, a p2 and a p4 would still be i686 as the architecture.
> 2. FreeBSD is far more secure then Linux and windows. There is a reason that major ISPs use an OS like FreeBSD, Not nearly the amount of bugs that are found in Linux and Windows. And it is far more stable. (Try reading about it)
Actually as you state in 3, Linux is just a kernel. There have been a few bugs here and there, but because Linux is just a kernel there have been no remote root exploits! Those would be in the daemons, which also can run on FreeBSD
> 4. Every time I have personally compared the speed of applications running on FreeBSD to Linux (on the same machine) FreeBSD has been the winner.
Are you interested in getting work done or do you constantly redo your work on the same machine in both OS's? Where are the numbers buddy? Come back with numbers.
> 5. BSD is the best operating system to run a network server like apache, or exim. Believe it. It's true. There is a reason yahoo runs on it. I have been a part of ten ISPs now and ALL of them have used *BSD for critical servers.
Ya-Who? Who the fuck are they? Let's not forget google is run on Linux!
SMP on Linux 2.4 (Read Stable Branch) is still a ways better than anything in *BSD arsonal. FreeBSD didn't get decent SMP until 5.x (Read Dev Branch).
Most non-open source apps are for Linux, can't beat the real thing!
Hardware support is pathetic in Linux compared to Windows. However... hardware support in FreeBSD is pathetic compared to Linux!
Don't get me wrong, I like FreeBSD and am actually typing this on my workstation (running FreeBSD), but I still feel that Linux edges it out in certain arena's. If you're just running Open Source Software on a single processor, older machine, then FreeBSD is perfect for you! Otherwise Linux is still king in of the Freenix's.
Why not go for the Apache license? It's basically the BSD license, except you can't call it X without permission from the original coder.
I have been using GNU binutils, GNU ld and GNU strip on Solaris. I can safely say that Solaris x86 and Sparc both interoperate with the GNU utilities like a champ. I've never had any issues with either on boht platforms.
As for the LDFLAGS, I've run into that a few times.
Actually that is a very good point, I had not seen it from that perspective. I mean it wasn't until recently that http 1.1 was finally ratified and that was in use for as long as I can remember.
Hehe, that's not quite what I was saying. Although I have noticed this as a fairly standard configuration in quite a few companies. Which is reminiscent of an article on slashdot a few days ago. Link I personally always set up a yum repository or another means of updating.
My point was that the last AC didn't seem to want to have RedHat Linux for anything other than the purpose of testing some precompiled software that is for RedHat Linux. Not only would it probably run with very little work on another distro, but if you are just using Linux to learn the app there is no reason why you can't firewall and/or disconnect from the net and learn. It's not like RedHat Linux will self destruct come Jan 1st. And it's not like this won't directly apply to RedHat Enterprise or any of the many rebuilds.
It's basically YARHELR (Yet Another RedHat Enterprise Linux Rebuild)
I use a custom install of Tsunami Codec Pack, and the latest DivX.
I've yet to run into a video I couldn't play in Windows with mplayer2.exe. I just wish that bloated piece of shit wmplayer.exe would stop taking over the damn associations.
On Linux, I just use good ol' mplayer tweaked out with all the Windows dll's. That works better than anything!
My friend gave me an HD that he didn't need anymore, and it had a password set. My laptop did not recognize the drive when I didn't enter the password and my friend didn't remember his password.
Just by dumb luck, I happen to have an external USB enclosure and I figured what the hell. I put the drive in this and it worked fine as an external drive. However no amount of fdisk'ing, low level formatting or anything would remove the password. Oh well, it makes for a great Ghost'ing/portable hd that works (with fat16 or fat32) with just about every major OS out there.
I believe it stores the information in some sort of NVRAM on the hard disk. Using a dumber implementation of IDE (I.E. the USB Enclosure) got around it, so it must require the BIOS to honor the password stored in NVRAM. Don't know much else.
The machines tend to fail to recognize the hard disk when the password is not entered. When you do boot up off a dos floppy to attempt to fdisk, it doesn't find any hard disks (assuming it's the only disk in the machine).
> Yes, it's a joke if you're a Debian geek. If not you probably won't understand.
Naw, not a Debian geek, but not closed off to the world of Free *NIX outside of RedHat. Mostly a RedHat/OpenBSD'er actually, right tool for the right job.
Personally I opted to rebuild my own RedHat Enterprise Rebuild, have scripted and yumified my own update system for my servers and workstations.
I would have released it, but I was too lazy to sit there and remove RedHat trademarks on software they mark as GPL. Kind of funny how their packages and artwork are licensed GPL and still gotta be removed before distribution!
Name : redhat-artwork
Source RPM: redhat-artwork-0.73.2-1E.src.rpm
License: GPL
URL : http://www.redhat.com
Summary : Artwork for Red Hat default look-and-feel
I don't see why, on the copyright side they give me the right to redistribute ala GPL, but on the trademark side they would viciously go after me if I did.
Are you the same troll from the last thread about ping'ing and routers? Eh...n/m
As far as running software from other companies on RedHat, there is no reason why you can't just run WhiteBox, Caosity or TaosLinux, all free RedHat Enterprise Rebuilds.
That's the point, there are options! Had you found or built or even (God Forbid) paid for your own RedHat Enterprise 2.1 then you wouldn't be having any issues with staying up to date. If you don't want to renew your service agreement after a year, simply download the src.rpm and rpmbuild --rebuild them via a script. No big deal.
If you truly are just doing this to learn XYZ Commercial Software, then build and firewall that machine off from the rest of the world and run whatever version of RedHat you like with the software that you want until you learn it. The knowledge doesn't just go away because you didn't pay for RedHat.
Also you may keep your cars for five years, but you probably bought it too. If someone gave you a clunker and it lasted a year, you wouldn't be complaining and would probably be grateful that it lasted that long.
There are a few things I would like to point out.
1) RedHat is Not Linux!
2) Debian has support well over five years, hell unstable has been unstable for what seems like five years!
3) If you are interested in staying with your existing RedHat install after the EOL, you can compile your own code or pay for a service that does it for you. When Microsoft EOL's a product, you are SOL!
4) There are quite a few RedHat Enterprise rebuild that you can download for free (Caosity, TaosLinux, WhiteBox) and use that for FREE!
5) Just because Microsoft had five years of support for their older versions of Windows doesn't mean that will continue. They seem to be pushing licensing 6.0, which seems more like leased software and they will use that to cram upgrades down peoples throats.
I could go on for quite a while, OSS has options. Windows does NOT and that is the power of OSS.
How many years of your life have you spent shitting?
How many years of your life have you spent eating?
How many years of your life have you spent breathing?
Answer to all 3 is probably all your life, however this doesn't mean that you have lived three times your age!
> Ahh, if only MS hadn't crushed netscape we might actually have a standard that is actually followed (rather than re-written as MS sees fit).
*aHeM* Netscape, pre-Microsoft-killing, was not anywhere near being standard. The last version of Netscape that supported the standards properly was probably Netscape 3.01. After that they too tried to pull Microsofts game on Microsoft, embrace/extend/etc. However Microsoft ultimately won due to the tight grip on the desktop.
Walgreens entire set up for their pharmacies is based on a locked down NT4.0. I wonder what major corps that relied upon MS are going to do now? Probably asking themselves the same question all those companies that rolled out RedHat Linux not too long ago are asking themselves now.
At least with the EOL of RedHat, you still CAN roll your own updates.
Odd how a piece of shit like Win98 can last so long, and RedHat 9 will only have one year before it's big EOL.
Thank Goodness for the GPL and WhiteBoxLinux
IIRC there are quite a few programs that do this!
I actually purchased CDRWIN, instead of getting the hack of Astalavista, and when I reinstalled my machine it refused to take my license because it said that my license was too old. I did however give up on trying to use Windows as a Desktop. K3b is so much nicer anyways.
Of course it's not disabled on the system, because in fact his machine can generate and will generate pings internally. Just because it is blocked in transit doesn't mean it wasn't generated. Besides no one is going to sit there and remove ping and replace it with echo "ping is disabled". That would be a stupid move, using ping is useful in diagnosing a lot of intranet problems.
It's quite obvious that you aren't a sysadmin, probably a developer much like the tard that wrote this article.