within about 50 dollars of each other I got the 955 for like 130 and I got a deal on the i5 which ran me about 179.
And both motherboards where about 110 and I originally had 4 and 4 but added an extra 8 to run a VM.
on an average system there is NO speed difference from 4 gigs to 12 gigs. NONE. I use the extra 8 gigs to run a linux vm on a OSX host. I've benched the piss out of them and whilst I did not expect the AMD to come anywhere NEAR my i7 2600k I DID expect it to run nearly as well as a i5 running nearly a Ghz slower and it didn't even come close.
I really honestly DO want to like them. And I don't really hate them any more [mostly since I stopped using them about 4 or so years ago] And to be honest for the dollar AMD does quite well against Intel for most needs. My problem with AMD systems are a much MUCH higher failure rate for the motherboards using the same brand, quality, and price point as the intel bretheren:( and they are slower.
My biggiest issue is I am VERY VERY impatient when it comes to computers and I can't find anything from AMD that even comes CLOSE to my current i7 2600K @ 5Ghz. Not even a mb/cpu(s)/memory costing 3 times as much can touch this thing in most everyday things I do such as read/program/play games/photoshop/repeat. I finally, a few weeks ago, broke down and gave them another chance and built "my" 1st amd rig in like I said about 4 or so years and whilst it's fine for the money [it's a Phenom II X4 955 Black, water cooled, overclocked to 4.2Ghz with 4 gigs DDR3 @ 1333]. it's still much slower than the i5 I built around the same time [i5 750 @ 3.4Ghz, and 12 gigs DDR3 @1328 air cooled] and both cost about the same in parts, yet the i5 SMOKES the 955 even at 800Mhz less per core. So dollar for dollar you're still "faster" with intel and I Like fast. I pay well for fast. IF Amd was faster I'd be using them right now but they don't have ANYTHING to offer me except the HD 6990 I have in here but that's still ATI in my minds eye.
AMD will need to pull a major magic rabbit out thier hats on this upcoming bulldozer [which does seem to have intel worried as they are delaying the x78 chipset and subsiquent LGA2011 cpu's and boards until AMD reviels thier hand]. Smart on thier part I guess, sucks on mine cause I couldn't wait and went with the flakey p67 but hey in a couple of months I'll have a fairly cheap motherboard/cpu combo for sale:)
man I feel the pain. Costs like 1.6 cents [as of 2009 and according wikipedia 1.79 cents per penny last year] just to make one penny and they SUCK. 99% of the time I just tell whatever cashier/staff keep the pennies. Keeps em out of my pocket/change jar and might help the next bloke who is a penny short:)
so you would rather them not fix it at all? I don't care about a 200 meg download [and oddly mine was less then 65M last night] but I do care if I am running an unpatched system.
Wait I also installed Ubuntu 11.04 last night and on bootup it had at least 100 megs of updates. and 11.04 only like what 28 days old or something. THAT's some patchin right there!
So please mr. joe compnay, please keep fixing your horrible [or not so horrible] code.
Now if the folks who do Java could figure out how to actually fix it so I don't get 5 calls a week about some malware that says their system is infected or their hard drive is failing, I'd be a happy camper. Poorer, but happier. Out of the last 20 or so incident calls I have had to go fix that involved malware, they have ALL been introduced to a fully patched and locked down system using some java crap. I would remove Java like the plague, which it is, if it weren't for them needing it for the damn medical and or finacial softwares they run.
aye but I was really just saying, while it most likely CAN be done [both the car thing and the andriod thing], it is not "trivial" and requires somebody with the proper skills to make it happen. The old rod days it was pretty simple IF you knew what you where doing. But still needed the skills to fabricate a plate so the tranny would bolt to the engine. Fabricate a clutch and throwout bearing. Fabricate engine mounts to bolt the engine to the frame. Fabricate a drive shaft to run that power from the tranny back to the ford 9 incher you left in there. Now it's nearly impossible since each part listed is controlled by a computer and NONE of them would be able to talk to each other without some mad coding skills. It just drives me crazy when somebody says "it's just Linux, how hard can it be?" So hard that if you have to ask that, you have NO idea just what you are asking. If it were so easy then they could just write it themselves and not need to ask.
that relying on others for anything, ever, is going to come back and bite you in the ass later. Be it cloud, public api, or anything that somebody else controls.
kinda crazy really. Started doing it on my pc for just xbox and a few years later I have 6 machines doing pretty much just XBMC builds 24/7 lol.
I had to go buy a bigger window unit AC last week because it's already REALLY hot down here [deep south. texas] AND 10,000 BTU wasn't doing it [it's only about 144 SQ Feet too:(] [sarcasm >for some reason 12 really hard run computers can heat a space like that up in a matter of minutes/endsarcasm] so I had to up it to 12,000 BTU and it's BARELY doing it:(. I'm working on just building another uber server and running 3/4 of the builds in VMs and selling off about a dozen computers lol.
XBMC (without 4XBOX in the name) has dropped support for xbox. This group is re-integrating xbox support. So XBMC itself has dropped support, and this project without xbox support is irrelevant, I'd say.
XBMC.org hasn't supported Xbox for like almost 2 years now. It was always just one person [Arnova] who was backporting all the changes from the main branch to XBMC for Xbox. Then we split off and became XBMC4Xbox and it's STILL Arnova doing the work, but now we have awesome talents of Exobuzz doing a lot of the grunt work along with a few others. We could always use more help though.
As somebody who has been offering nightly XBMC builds for Xbox and all other platforms for the last few years I can say that interest is still there for an ANCIENT platform. http://www.xbmcsvn.com/ still gets thousands of downloads a day and many of them are Xbox. I just added a new section to the site to include the new "Stable" builds that should be coming more often then before. We can always use help over at http://www.xbmc4xbox.org/forum so if you are so inclined head on over. kick off your shoes and stay a while. We are the forum without the attitude:P
whilst this will surely be non-politically-correct I'm going to say BS. We haven't won a war where we just didn't go balls out to win. And when I mean balls out, I mean drop so much crap from the air as to leave little left on the ground intact. All this minimize collateral damage is all good and dandy but it proves you can't win a war with it. Only when you do so much damage that the other side has no choice to give up do you really win.
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And both motherboards where about 110 and I originally had 4 and 4 but added an extra 8 to run a VM. on an average system there is NO speed difference from 4 gigs to 12 gigs. NONE. I use the extra 8 gigs to run a linux vm on a OSX host. I've benched the piss out of them and whilst I did not expect the AMD to come anywhere NEAR my i7 2600k I DID expect it to run nearly as well as a i5 running nearly a Ghz slower and it didn't even come close.
My biggiest issue is I am VERY VERY impatient when it comes to computers and I can't find anything from AMD that even comes CLOSE to my current i7 2600K @ 5Ghz. Not even a mb/cpu(s)/memory costing 3 times as much can touch this thing in most everyday things I do such as read/program/play games/photoshop/repeat. I finally, a few weeks ago, broke down and gave them another chance and built "my" 1st amd rig in like I said about 4 or so years and whilst it's fine for the money [it's a Phenom II X4 955 Black, water cooled, overclocked to 4.2Ghz with 4 gigs DDR3 @ 1333]. it's still much slower than the i5 I built around the same time [i5 750 @ 3.4Ghz, and 12 gigs DDR3 @1328 air cooled] and both cost about the same in parts, yet the i5 SMOKES the 955 even at 800Mhz less per core. So dollar for dollar you're still "faster" with intel and I Like fast. I pay well for fast. IF Amd was faster I'd be using them right now but they don't have ANYTHING to offer me except the HD 6990 I have in here but that's still ATI in my minds eye.
AMD will need to pull a major magic rabbit out thier hats on this upcoming bulldozer [which does seem to have intel worried as they are delaying the x78 chipset and subsiquent LGA2011 cpu's and boards until AMD reviels thier hand]. Smart on thier part I guess, sucks on mine cause I couldn't wait and went with the flakey p67 but hey in a couple of months I'll have a fairly cheap motherboard/cpu combo for sale :)
i just don't see it.
there are actual silver linings.
Ask a dude which way is North and most can tell you without much thought. Ask a woman the same question and they have to ask thier friends first.
that's what I'd like to think anyway
man I feel the pain. Costs like 1.6 cents [as of 2009 and according wikipedia 1.79 cents per penny last year] just to make one penny and they SUCK. 99% of the time I just tell whatever cashier/staff keep the pennies. Keeps em out of my pocket/change jar and might help the next bloke who is a penny short :)
And here all this time I always thought sodu's more advanced replacement was su
damnit dude, now I have this major craving for a T-Bone and some awesome saucey short ribs. Thanks a LOT.
they are that bad.
so you would rather them not fix it at all? I don't care about a 200 meg download [and oddly mine was less then 65M last night] but I do care if I am running an unpatched system.
Wait I also installed Ubuntu 11.04 last night and on bootup it had at least 100 megs of updates. and 11.04 only like what 28 days old or something. THAT's some patchin right there!
So please mr. joe compnay, please keep fixing your horrible [or not so horrible] code.
Now if the folks who do Java could figure out how to actually fix it so I don't get 5 calls a week about some malware that says their system is infected or their hard drive is failing, I'd be a happy camper. Poorer, but happier. Out of the last 20 or so incident calls I have had to go fix that involved malware, they have ALL been introduced to a fully patched and locked down system using some java crap. I would remove Java like the plague, which it is, if it weren't for them needing it for the damn medical and or finacial softwares they run.
Freaking java should just die.
Or is this more of a case of stepping on the tail of a tiger?
Your UID is to high to be making car analogies.
cause I didn't log in for like 2 years and lost me good one :(
kinda sucks I had to explain it lol.
Ok sure I suck at analogies.
But it was "technically" correct :)
It's just an android device though, isn't it? Yeah, it's got Barnes and Noble stuff on it, but still, it can't be that hard to hack.
It's a ford. Shouldn't be that hard to put a chevy engine and a crystler transmission in should it? After all it's just a car.
I'm guessing you have never even used Sharepoint. SP is probably the best package MS has ever made. Way underappreciated.
does what you need and then some.
I'm even afraid to use anonymous ftp now. One slip up and you have a whole army at your door.
not any more :(
Of course relying on yourself for everything will also bite you in the ass.
Best course of action, kevlar undies.
while true enough I still feel less angry when I screw up then when I rely on somebody and they screw up lol.
that relying on others for anything, ever, is going to come back and bite you in the ass later. Be it cloud, public api, or anything that somebody else controls.
kinda crazy really. Started doing it on my pc for just xbox and a few years later I have 6 machines doing pretty much just XBMC builds 24/7 lol. I had to go buy a bigger window unit AC last week because it's already REALLY hot down here [deep south. texas] AND 10,000 BTU wasn't doing it [it's only about 144 SQ Feet too :(] [sarcasm >for some reason 12 really hard run computers can heat a space like that up in a matter of minutes /endsarcasm] so I had to up it to 12,000 BTU and it's BARELY doing it :(. I'm working on just building another uber server and running 3/4 of the builds in VMs and selling off about a dozen computers lol.
XBMC (without 4XBOX in the name) has dropped support for xbox. This group is re-integrating xbox support. So XBMC itself has dropped support, and this project without xbox support is irrelevant, I'd say.
XBMC.org hasn't supported Xbox for like almost 2 years now. It was always just one person [Arnova] who was backporting all the changes from the main branch to XBMC for Xbox. Then we split off and became XBMC4Xbox and it's STILL Arnova doing the work, but now we have awesome talents of Exobuzz doing a lot of the grunt work along with a few others. We could always use more help though.
As somebody who has been offering nightly XBMC builds for Xbox and all other platforms for the last few years I can say that interest is still there for an ANCIENT platform. http://www.xbmcsvn.com/ still gets thousands of downloads a day and many of them are Xbox. I just added a new section to the site to include the new "Stable" builds that should be coming more often then before. We can always use help over at http://www.xbmc4xbox.org/forum so if you are so inclined head on over. kick off your shoes and stay a while. We are the forum without the attitude :P
Well ka gi gi gi chip chirp to you too.
whilst this will surely be non-politically-correct I'm going to say BS. We haven't won a war where we just didn't go balls out to win. And when I mean balls out, I mean drop so much crap from the air as to leave little left on the ground intact. All this minimize collateral damage is all good and dandy but it proves you can't win a war with it. Only when you do so much damage that the other side has no choice to give up do you really win.
It's not expensive and if you get worth out of the investment it's a good thing all the way around.