They ARE easy to cut up and transport. It's simple oxy-propane torchwork to cut them into pieces sized to fit the standard trailers and rolloff containers used to carry other scrap to salvage.
I suspect that the program began a while back when stainless and mild steel were dirt cheap and it continued out of inertia. In the case of the cars with small amounts of asbestos there might not be a domestic market for them due to having to remove it before the hulls hit the shredder. Asbestos disposal regs are strict and anything the produces friable asbestos is avoided. (That's also part of why we can no longer profitably scrap ships in the United States.)
I'm surprised they aren't selling them for scrap. A common automobile crushes at more than 200 dollars. Subway cars contain many more tons of easily recoverable steel, copper wiring, etc. A crew could easily scrap them on-site at a trainyard.
"I've been trying without success to claim deductions for blackjack and hookers for years, so my advice is to just pay up. And don't forget to leave a tip."
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The flip side to that is many WWII vets were into history and collecting stuff from the period.
G.I.s are natural scroungers and came back from every theater with guns and gear. Souvenir prohibitions are recent, but after WWII soldiers were encouraged to bring back Mausers, Lugers, Arisakas, Nambus, etc. Unlike the fear-freak society today, owning guns and using them responsibly was considered quite normal. The WWII vets I grew up around (in suburban Bergen County, NJ, BTW) introduced me to collecting militaria and had some impressive stashes, including lots of the weapons used against them.
"Hence why you don't click on random things and go to websites that could potentially be unsafe. It doesn't take much common sense to keep this stuff at bay..."
Unless the "safe-looking" websites are infected... "But she looked like a nice girl. How would I know she had the clap?"
"I knew a guy who claimed he was abducted and sodomized with various probes then dumped in a field in the middle of nowhere. Is he lying? He believes it."
All I know is those probe kits are a bitch to clean...
"Every time my computer does something strange, I'm worried that I might be infected."
Dispose of Windows, install a more secure OS, and take the time to learn to properly use your new OS. Surf using a virtual appliance to isolate the rest of the system. Some folks even surf and do much of their stuff using a live CD. Somewhat awkward but quite safe, and not a bad idea for online banking etc. Even if one isn't especially worried, this stuff is fun and useful to learn.
"I don't get cautious around most black people, but you better believe I get cautious around ones that look like they've bought into the thug culture."
There is also no downside to avoidance, That's also why actions like "white flight" from areas into which blacks buy are logical When it is observable that neighborhoods with a certain demographic are of a certain character, one may choose where to live taking this into account.
"if he's made millions of dollars, can't he just move to a small island off the coast of Mexico and have young women make him ceviche, bring him beer, and blow him for the rest of his life?"
Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
"And what's with all the Islam apologist idiots on here today? "
But, but, religion is "special". It's not PC to attack any superstition, only purely secular beliefs. Americans have been brainwashed by the superstition-based attacks between superstitions to think that ALL superstitions should be left critically unexamined. They have also been brainwashed into differentiating doctrine from practice, which differentiation is actually a dodge superstitions use for self-defense. "Don't judge X-religion by its followers, judge it by the books of mumbo-jumbo which I will interpret for you."
I could attack Nazism all day, but I'd get modded flamebait for comparing Jihadist calls for death to the Jews as Islamonazism. The solution is to develop a very thick skin and press on.
Religion is nothing more than a framework for enslavement to other believers and has always been a threat to freedom. We forget how many Christians had to die before they relaxed their stranglehold on government. (I thank the French for their liberal use of the guillotine in that regard.) Now that most religions have been tamed, we have Islam left as the last attempt to set freethinking back thousands of years. IMO that's worth any level of violence to stop, and just because the NeoCons are incompetent and Bush is as sharp as a bowling ball does not mean there isn't a clash of cultures.
It may matter more who they serve. Companies and workers have always been expendable one way or the other. If enough of the right people make money during a CEOs tenure, there is no reason not to use him or her elsewhere. Companies can be used as throwaways in a larger war (SCO) or be sucked dry and discarded. Those with enough money can always whip up a new company if needed.
Of course, since companies and workers don't matter, that eliminates any reason for worker loyalty. Scam what you can and fuck them before they fuck you.
FaunOS looks interesting, especially because Puppy and Damn Small Linux (handy as they are) are rather limited. Thanks for the useful post, I'll give it a shot.
Granular isn't worth my time to download, despite the Slashvertisement.
Until you take one the Bible Nazis and other religious fanatics directly, they will remain a threat to all our freedoms. Bush is a symptom, not the problem.
"Refusal to be prepared for that sort of thing is the fault of US military leadership."
Troll, eh?
Sending soft-skinned light truck HMMWVs into urban combat works badly. They cannot surmount roadblocks and do not effectively protect their crews. (US forces at Mogadish had to be rescued by Pakistani M113 and M48s, because the US armor was left in CONUS!) Uparmoring HMMWVs for Iraq was reactive to tactics that had been used against soft trucks for DECADES.
As for soft-skinned supply convoys (OK in open desert, not OK when channelized in cities) we had protective solutions in the form of the famous Viet Nam war gun trucks. We have them again, but they had to be fabbed locally (again) because of the collective post-Viet Nam brain dump. Good thing the enlisted folks and contractors had their act together.
BTW, Israel has figured out how to carry troops into combat under far more armor than the US uses. The Israelis use recycled Russian tank hulls as the basis for the Achzarit. Might be time for us to do the same thing.
"In a few years, laptops in bubble-packs for $89.95 will be hanging on racks at the drugstore. Microsoft isn't ready for that."
The lappy makers may not be either. Palm could have done exactly that, but kept pursuing more expensive offerings.
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'The Iraqui insurgents have figured out a doctrine that works against armor. That's new.'
Command-detonated mines, conventional mines, and Panzerfausts (ancestor of the RPG) are hardly "new".
Refusal to be prepared for that sort of thing is the fault of US military leadership. They were amply warned by Somalia and Chechnya, and had "lessons learned" reports aplenty. The "insurgent" doctrine works against ROADBOUND convoys in URBAN areas (and of course against vehicles whose operators keep them on roads elsewhere).
Open desert is different because it does not channelize vehicles into kill zones. RMA firepower works very well there.
"It's like saying Ford extending the life of their 1965 sedan into the 2010."
Not really. Software isn't hardware, and just because the public is groomed to accept drastic OS changes doesn't mean that we need to replace systems that work sufficiently well for their intended purpose. Refinement instead of replacement can avoid all sorts of problems such as, well, Vista. Given the MSFT market share, they could have gradually improved XP and made even more money than they have by dumping capital into Vista.
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"You don't need a computer at all to do those things."
A PDA or smartphone is still, technically, a small computer.
Hello APK.
http://www.jaylittle.com/jaylittle/default.aspx?cmd=article&sub=display&id=30
"A subway car? Not so easy to transport."
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They ARE easy to cut up and transport. It's simple oxy-propane torchwork to cut them into pieces sized to fit the standard trailers and rolloff containers used to carry other scrap to salvage.
I suspect that the program began a while back when stainless and mild steel were dirt cheap and it continued out of inertia. In the case of the cars with small amounts of asbestos there might not be a domestic market for them due to having to remove it before the hulls hit the shredder. Asbestos disposal regs are strict and anything the produces friable asbestos is avoided. (That's also part of why we can no longer profitably scrap ships in the United States
I'm surprised they aren't selling them for scrap. A common automobile crushes at more than 200 dollars. Subway cars contain many more tons of easily recoverable steel, copper wiring, etc. A crew could easily scrap them on-site at a trainyard.
"I've been trying without success to claim deductions for blackjack and hookers for years, so my advice is to just pay up. And don't forget to leave a tip."
Eliot? Is that you?
Optical drives are a complex PITA compared to flash. The sooner kids learn not to need them the better.
"Kaiser Wilhelm II is suing them both for use of the term "Stormtrooper"."
There's quite a market for their gear too.
Nice badge:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.militarytour.com/Reproductions/ImagesReproduct/25.htm13_small.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.militarytour.com/Reproductions/WW1/repoww1.htm&h=192&w=125&sz=5&hl=en&start=7&um=1&tbnid=YTfzDlpZcBm5eM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=67&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dww1%2Bstormtrooper%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN
The flip side to that is many WWII vets were into history and collecting stuff from the period.
G.I.s are natural scroungers and came back from every theater with guns and gear. Souvenir prohibitions are recent, but after WWII soldiers were encouraged to bring back Mausers, Lugers, Arisakas, Nambus, etc. Unlike the fear-freak society today, owning guns and using them responsibly was considered quite normal. The WWII vets I grew up around (in suburban Bergen County, NJ, BTW) introduced me to collecting militaria and had some impressive stashes, including lots of the weapons used against them.
If you want more info on collecting and wrenching military vehicles, check out
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/
"With a 3-cylinder engine, you could pretty much stop it with your outstretched arm."
If they used a skid-steer drivetrain or parts of it, good luck with the "outstretched arm" method.
Hello APK!
http://windowsitpro.com/articles/index.cfm?articleid=41095&cpage=11
http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/51009562/m/3680937305
"Hence why you don't click on random things and go to websites that could potentially be unsafe. It doesn't take much common sense to keep this stuff at bay..."
Unless the "safe-looking" websites are infected...
"But she looked like a nice girl. How would I know she had the clap?"
"I knew a guy who claimed he was abducted and sodomized with various probes then dumped in a field in the middle of nowhere. Is he lying? He believes it."
All I know is those probe kits are a bitch to clean...
"Every time my computer does something strange, I'm worried that I might be infected."
Dispose of Windows, install a more secure OS, and take the time to learn to properly use your new OS. Surf using a virtual appliance to isolate the rest of the system. Some folks even surf and do much of their stuff using a live CD. Somewhat awkward but quite safe, and not a bad idea for online banking etc. Even if one isn't especially worried, this stuff is fun and useful to learn.
"I don't get cautious around most black people, but you better believe I get cautious around ones that look like they've bought into the thug culture."
There is also no downside to avoidance, That's also why actions like "white flight" from areas into which blacks buy are logical When it is observable that neighborhoods with a certain demographic are of a certain character, one may choose where to live taking this into account.
"if he's made millions of dollars, can't he just move to a small island off the coast of Mexico and have young women make him ceviche, bring him beer, and blow him for the rest of his life?"
Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
"And what's with all the Islam apologist idiots on here today? "
But, but, religion is "special". It's not PC to attack any superstition, only purely secular beliefs. Americans have been brainwashed by the superstition-based attacks between superstitions to think that ALL superstitions should be left critically unexamined. They have also been brainwashed into differentiating doctrine from practice, which differentiation is actually a dodge superstitions use for self-defense. "Don't judge X-religion by its followers, judge it by the books of mumbo-jumbo which I will interpret for you."
I could attack Nazism all day, but I'd get modded flamebait for comparing Jihadist calls for death to the Jews as Islamonazism. The solution is to develop a very thick skin and press on.
Religion is nothing more than a framework for enslavement to other believers and has always been a threat to freedom. We forget how many Christians had to die before they relaxed their stranglehold on government. (I thank the French for their liberal use of the guillotine in that regard.) Now that most religions have been tamed, we have Islam left as the last attempt to set freethinking back thousands of years. IMO that's worth any level of violence to stop, and just because the NeoCons are incompetent and Bush is as sharp as a bowling ball does not mean there isn't a clash of cultures.
It may matter more who they serve. Companies and workers have always been expendable one way or the other.
If enough of the right people make money during a CEOs tenure, there is no reason not to use him or her elsewhere.
Companies can be used as throwaways in a larger war (SCO) or be sucked dry and discarded. Those with enough money can always whip up a new company if needed.
Of course, since companies and workers don't matter, that eliminates any reason for worker loyalty. Scam what you can and fuck them before they fuck you.
FaunOS looks interesting, especially because Puppy and Damn Small Linux (handy as they are) are rather limited.
Thanks for the useful post, I'll give it a shot.
Granular isn't worth my time to download, despite the Slashvertisement.
I just tried "abort", 'abortifacient", and "abortion". Seems those terms are not blocked.
http://db.jhuccp.org/ics-wpd/popweb/
Until you take one the Bible Nazis and other religious fanatics directly, they will remain a threat to all our freedoms. Bush is a symptom, not the problem.
"Refusal to be prepared for that sort of thing is the fault of US military leadership."
Troll, eh?
Sending soft-skinned light truck HMMWVs into urban combat works badly. They cannot surmount roadblocks and do not effectively protect their crews. (US forces at Mogadish had to be rescued by Pakistani M113 and M48s, because the US armor was left in CONUS!) Uparmoring HMMWVs for Iraq was reactive to tactics that had been used against soft trucks for DECADES.
http://www.specialoperations.com/Operations/Restore_Hope/97-0364.pdf
As for soft-skinned supply convoys (OK in open desert, not OK when channelized in cities) we had protective solutions in the form of the famous Viet Nam war gun trucks. We have them again, but they had to be fabbed locally (again) because of the collective post-Viet Nam brain dump. Good thing the enlisted folks and contractors had their act together.
VN "Iron Butterfly" truck w.box style body:
http://134.198.33.115/sims12.htm
OIF homebrew version:
http://news.webshots.com/photo/1124605382054144800oTBMQt
Livermore high-dollar version:
https://publicaffairs.llnl.gov/news/news_releases/2005/NR-05-07-07.html
VN truck King Cobra (scroll down)
http://134.198.33.115/agee1.htm
Looks familiar!
http://www.cmvmag.co.uk/cgi-bin/news.cgi?article=040103
MRAP armored truck:
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/xml/news/2007/05/marine_mrap_070523/070253mrap_story.JPG
BTW, Israel has figured out how to carry troops into combat under far more armor than the US uses. The Israelis use recycled Russian tank hulls as the basis for the Achzarit. Might be time for us to do the same thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1ly0fk1Pro
"In a few years, laptops in bubble-packs for $89.95 will be hanging on racks at the drugstore. Microsoft isn't ready for that."
The lappy makers may not be either. Palm could have done exactly that, but kept pursuing more expensive offerings.
'The Iraqui insurgents have figured out a doctrine that works against armor. That's new.'
Command-detonated mines, conventional mines, and Panzerfausts (ancestor of the RPG) are hardly "new".
Refusal to be prepared for that sort of thing is the fault of US military leadership. They were amply warned by Somalia and Chechnya, and had "lessons learned" reports aplenty. The "insurgent" doctrine works against ROADBOUND convoys in URBAN areas (and of course against vehicles whose operators keep them on roads elsewhere).
Open desert is different because it does not channelize vehicles into kill zones. RMA firepower works very well there.
"It's like saying Ford extending the life of their 1965 sedan into the 2010."
Not really.
Software isn't hardware, and just because the public is groomed to accept drastic OS changes doesn't mean that we need to replace systems that work sufficiently well for their intended purpose. Refinement instead of replacement can avoid all sorts of problems such as, well, Vista. Given the MSFT market share, they could have gradually improved XP and made even more money than they have by dumping capital into Vista.