People who sound like they are smoking crack have a tendency to post more and rant more than others, therefore they give a false impression of the spread of views in the Slashdot community.
I think you are right about that...although even with knowing that, it still irks me at times. Eh...maybe it's just me. YMMV.
Your not alone. I was thinking pretty much the same thing.
I don't read here nearly as much these days...the site is full of paranoid rantings and the political commentary of people who are very deeply indoctrinated in their views. The editors are pretty bad about it sometimes too.
Alot of folks here are truely "open minded" to those who agree with them. That's about it.
Don't much care whether I get modded up or down. Look at the garbage that gets modded as it is. I don't know if up or down is better anymore.
It reads: "Now, what's the point of all that? Well when you get right down to it, it's to keep you and others alive and to keep you out of the "poor house." The problem arises when for any given reason the utility grid loses power. You'd think that your motor acting as an asynchronous generator would cease to generate because it lost it's excitation. If it were just your generator and the power company's, the power would drop out like a heavy duty rock. However that's not the case. There's a factor knows as "resonance" to deal with that's inherit with power distribution systems. Some of it comes from power lines being parallel to each other, thus forming a "capacitor". However most of it comes from "power factor correction capacitors" the power company installs within it's system and inductance in transformers. Maybe some day I'll expand on those to things but for now lets stick with just the effects of resonance."
I have seen that kind of thing said on more than on occasion onm various tinkerer's sites. I wouldn't hook one up to the grid anyways personally just because of the fact that I dont' want to even get into it.
As for what it takes to start one generating, spin up an induction motor as a generator for a few minutes...then stop it, and remove any load. Wait a few minutes and start spinning it again. It'll likely generate. I have an old GE continuous duty pump motor that I got as scrap that does it...and from what I have heard, that's pretty much the norm (I read up on this stuff in the past because I considered trying to make a little generator out of it - decided against it. Would rather just get a proper generator if I need it.)...if it's dead for a longer period of time (obviously, this depends completely on how the motor is built), you'll eventually have it completely dead. Here's another link on to a site that explains it likely better than I can. Link
Basically, here's what is said: "This system depends upon residual magnetism in the rotor to start generating. Almost all the motors I've tried begin generating just fine on their own, with the appropriate capacitor connected of course! If it doesn't start generating, try speeding the motor up. That will usually get it going. However, it is extremely rare to find one that doesn't start.
If a motor doesn't start generating on the very first try, then apply 120 vac or even 12 or more volts DC to the motor for a few seconds. That will usually work to magnetize the rotor and your generator will start by itself from then on.
It is important to not shut the generator down with a load connected to it. This tends to demagnetize the rotor and can cause it to not self-energize. That is, the motor will turn, but it will not produce voltage. It is not a serious problem since the rotor can be remagnetized by following the instructions in the paragraph above. "
You could plug lights and stuff into it little cheapo one like the above link describes, and probably a good deal of other stuff - but there are things that wouldn't take too well to it, and I don't even want to have to think about it. Eh...that's just me on that one...to each their own.
Eh...sorry if I came off like a jerk...but the whole guerilla power thing (plugging into the grid improperly/illegally) just annoys the heck out of me...even if just for safety reasons (or personality quirks...I am probably just being anal about it). Alot of the people prone to doing that kinda thing honestly don't know enough to be doing it...I don't and I'll be the first one to admit it, so I leave it the heck alone. If someone wants to crank out the juice on their own though (either off the grid, or with the right hardware to sync their output to the grid), hey...go for it. (But I can't imagine that the permits to do it are THAT hard to get if you really have the appropriate gear for it?) I'd even call it a good thing...I hope the increasing numbers of people using solar eventually knocks the price down to get it in more wide use. I think the price of it is what kills the idea to most people.
Actually, no. No more than induction motors do. Induction generators draw magnetizing current (lagging waveform) from the grid, but they don't generate much in the way of nasty harmonics; to get really bad waveforms you need switching power supplies or SCR-based lamp dimmers.
It's safe to say that alot of people here have switching power supplies.
It won't be. As soon as the induction generator loses its magnetizing current, it shuts down. If you put a capacitor on your end to move your load factor closer to 1 you might need an auto-shutdown based on frequency variation, because the capacitor might allow the generator to auto-excite.
What I was talking about were the people turning old motors into AC generators - those are NOT sophisticated in the least. Actually, alot of- if not most induction motors hold enough residual magnetism to exite themselves up to generating even after a pretty good amount of time of inactivity...but beyond that: Your everyday asynchronous generator/induction motor does NOT cease to generate when it looses it's excitation from the grid. If you still plugged into the grid and spinning that motor/generator, your going to be playing with a number of things - one of which is resonance. All of those parallel electrical lines out there (basically gives a little capacitance), as well as capacitors and transformers are going to give some unusual excitation to the generator, and then the fun starts. Can it be dealt with? Sure...but I wouldn't trust some backyard hackjob induction generator rig to do it right. I don't think the power company would be too casual about it either.
I am not talking about any kind of generator with a system to shut down based on frequency variations, etc. I am talking about some of the idiotic stuff the "gurella alternative power" nutcases out there try to pull. (No permits, no regulations, etc...so lets turn this motor into a genset and jack it into the grid!) That kinda crap gets linemen zapped...that's why those regulations exist. People tend not to be so responsible all too often. Hell...I wouldn't do it myself and I think I have at least a LITTLE clue what's going on.
Well...it WAS basic...now it's getting to the fringes of what I know about AC and the grid. Give me a fuckin' break..at least I admit it, and it's been a few years since I touched wiring, your royal highness. I am pretty sure most of my most recent spewings on this one are correct at least, whether or not we are thinking of the same kinda setup here is another matter.
Eh...whatever. Might have some reading to do, so flame away.
AC induction motors don't produce pulsed DC...hate to rain on your parade. (Well...unless you wanna rectify the damn thing yet.) Alot of people doing this kind of thing don't have alot of use for a DC output...most people want AC to run all of their toys. An AC induction motor sync's to the grid by nature - the problem is when power goes out and the thing is still running. (Well...that's one problem with it anyways.) Plugging the wrong things into an induction motor generator can have some bad results too...hint...most people here, it's safe to say, own at least one thing that could be a problem.
Secondly...have you priced a syncing inverter of any meaningful power level lately? It jacks up the price on the housing by quite a bit...it's not something I'd take lightly. Most people I've seen doing that are doing it with just solar though, although if your comfortable enough to do it, sure...hook up whatever the hell you want to it.
Yep...basic stuff.
My gripe is with the "gurella alternative power" idiots out there who just dump juice into the grid as mentioned in the original post, with no reguards to permits and procedure. Alot of people pull exactly the kinda crap that I am talking about...spin an induction motor up past the point that it would spin just running on it's own and use it to generate power - but it's just not such a smart way to do it.
Poser...hehe. Oh yeah...well your an anonymous coward!
I live here.. I watch the masses of idiots who refuse to obey the speed limits and further reduce the MPG of their gas guzzlers"
Umm...ever heard of the autobahn?
Quit talking like Americans are the only ones who speed and do some traveling...that's a pretty universal phenomenon.
And for that matter....the junk generators your talking about have a problem. They are induction motors...ever tried using one as a regular generator? If a handfull of people do that, it's not going to harm much, but if everyone was doing what those idiots are, it would be a BADLY irresponsible thing to do...it would be corrupting the power grid. If an induction motor is used as a generator on it's own (once exited, etc) and you through any substancial load at it, the waveform goes all to hell, etc. It's a bad thing. Those induction generators are counting on the fact that the power company has more generating capacity than all of the induction motor generators out there by a large margin....you change that, and your gonna have trouble. If the main power goes out, and your induction genny is still plugging (if it's already exited, it will do that...)...the load you have on it might have some interested results.
Not only that...those regulations that you have to notify the power company etc, are there for reasons...safety being one of them. Some guy gets zapped up on the poll because of one of these P.O.S. "generators", I'll be applauding when the idiot running it gets carted away.
This is such basic stuff....why do you people have to fuck it up?
When they have a financier with a few hundred million in the bank, who's fault is any hardship? Bin Laden's personal fortune is probably not far from what the GDP of Afghanistan is/was. If he wanted to help his people, he had far better means available to him...if he wasn't completely nutters anyways.
Well...it's even more than that. If your in a neighborhood with alot of independantly wealthy and older retired (and wealthy) people, they have time on their hands to help more than someone who is working 2 jobs to get by. Some of the wealthy folks out there are really busy people too, but I see alot of them who can afford to be generous with their time.
Making press conferences and organizing things as much as Smart's mom takes time...she can afford to make the time as I don't think they are financially strapped. Taking the time and effort for such things would kinda come easier to someone in their position IMHO. That's about all...and sadly, social status doesn't hurt - but I don't think it's the biggest factor at all.
Well...I kinda agree with this, but with a twist: Alexis Patterson's mother might not be able to organize rallies and press conferences partially due to financial contraints that Elizabeth Smart's mother is obviously not under. Elizabeth Smart also comes from a very very nice looking neighborhood, which has also been doing a great deal to help their cause. (Volunteering, monetary donations etc.) I agree 100% though, that money and race aren't the things that are directly influencing this. Money or social status are advantageous for obvious reasons - but playing the race card on yet another tradgedy kinda sickens me.
For the record, Fox News actually has mentioned Alexis Patterson, more than once. Ironic...someone like Katz is not likely to watch conservative rubbish such as that, right?:)
Try life on a Carrier or Submarine...seriously. I am not going to cite examples...just go look it up. It's one very hard lifestyle...especially in times like these.
Almost...if you have cable access, your probably already paying for the cable to be there via your TV bills you have had all along. If you get cable modem access without having cable TV...most systems also surcharge you at least 10 bucks a month.
It's not quite as bad as the original poster said...but not quite as good either. If you exceeded the cap and they knocked you down to 10k a sec or something...I could almost see it, as you'd still get a reasonable deal comparatively...eh...that's MHO.
Sometimes making a post that is offtopic somewhere is actually important.
Sometimes something needs to be said and heard, and there was no good place to say it. The offtopic post in question was rather relavent as it was reveiling some shadey behavior on the part of some of the editors. Alot of people deserve to know what is going on, so they can see and judge the frequent hypocracy on the part of the management and make better judgements for themselves.
Guess what...if you submit an article detailing an investigation into shadey management practices on slashdot...it's going to get rejected...and the readers have no say in it.
Don't even get me started on their rediculous biases and lack of objectivity. Oh well...as long as they can keep convincing themselves they don't exist....
Yeah...Yang was a real great guy too. Bear in mind, he ran an Athiest police state. He wasn't exactly a terribly nice guy and I usually had to kick his butt. He tended to dislike the more freedom oriented societies, and most other good things in general. Miriam is no better...just on the complete opposite side of the spectrum. They are both extremist wingnuts.
You haven't figured this place out yet. "News for Nerds" is not to be confused with any kind of actual journalism. It's really just little twists on actual happenings...usually to try to reaffirm the equally twisted world views of the editors and apparently a fair number of the readers.
Sadly...I am not even trying to troll here. I'll never be able to mod with this account again because I disagreed with them and modded up one of the forbidden posts they were trying to bury.
we are talking about keyboards being more germ-laden then the average toilet seat. Compared to the current state of the bathroom in my apartment, my keyboard area is suitable for performing brain surgury.
On a lighter note....that was some darn good chili.
to thank slick willy, who signed a nice bill that dramatically increased the H1B visa limits to deal with our terrible tech worker "shortage". Even the ones who have to return home now from losing their jobs have good work experience from here and will likely just work in the outsourcing market from their own countries...for about 25% or less than you or I would have to ask to live decently. (Not extravagent folks...my car's got 123,000 miles on it, and my apartment is a hole...but at least I have modest student loans and a healthy "oh shit" fund in the bank.) Life can be a bitch for the early years of being a developer.
Welcome to the harsh realities of supply and demand folks. Don't say I didn't warn you anyways...
That was pretty much my point. Just because someone famous said something in the past, and just because a poster agrees with it...doesn't make it somehow magically right...let alone "interesting" or "insightful". Slashdot as a community is kinda lacking in the objective thinking department alot in the last year or two. Being penalized by the editors for modding up a post they don't agree with doesn't help that situation much either.
Your likely going to get modded into oblivion for saying it...but I agree with you. Unfortunately, I can't ever mod with this account again because I once modded in disagreement with the management here.
"Freedom of speech" indeed guys.
I hope some other people can see this one for what it is. Everytime someone even mentions an extremely unlikely technological/political option...the slashkiddies have to just jump all over it and cry "Canada!" to the world. Believe it or not kids...sometimes the government makes GOOD decisions...not all bad ones. I will bet anyone ANY sum of cash you've got right now, that THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN...especially not with anything like "passport" as we know it.
Heck...in a sick sort of way, I am GLAD they consider ALL options...it gives the government a chance to peer into Microsoft's fuckups in ways they wouldn't have ordinarily looked at it.
Actually...I don't think it's QUITE that bad in reality...actually it has some hope. The online world is kinda funny like that...if I am walking down the street in any city...there are laws as to what can be see publicly. People don't want their 10 year old kids looking at "moaning cum sluts" or whatever the last 12 spams I deleted were. There ARE places where that's fair game though, and the kids aren't generally allowed there...and that's fine...I'd go as far as to say, that's a good thing. If you have a clear distinction about what is a porno place, such as a prn domain name (which would be kinda like going to an adult bookstore...just in cyberspace) it's easier to keep people away from it. Rather than rely completely on quirky filtering technologies, your just have your kids internet account not allow *.prn. No...it's not infallible or perfect...but it's better than what we have now, which is a situation that kids are getting exposed to some not so right stuff for their ages...(not 17 year olds here folks...there are little ones online)...or because of some dumbass filter they can't even find info on breast cancer.
It wouldn't really be such a bad world if the same rules that applied to adult entertainment in real life, also applied to cyberspace. You can do it, and you can have it...but you can't just go throwing that stuff around anywhere.
Sure...you have the freedom to say what you want...but other people should have the freedom to not have to listen to someone else's crap too.
You keep mentioning the religeous people as the opposition to this...believe it or not, there are more than a few non-religeous people who have a problem with it too.
Don't oversimplify the problem for the sake of reinforcing your biases.
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Heh...ok...now I am getting what your thinking. It's easy to misunderstand people on here sometimes...that's my bad.
And in that case...I pretty much agree with you.:)
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As it happens, he might not have his facts nailed down (at least according to you, I don't have the time or the prior knowledge to say which one of you is right), but it remains that his post is tight. I like it. It's well written. I would mod it up.
Ok...you just said that his facts may be off (they are...look it up) but because his post is "tight" you'd mod it up? You'd mod it up as informative when the facts that it's informing about are completely wrong? Is it just me or does that sound completely illogical?
I don't mean to come off offensive or anything, but seriously... I can understand liking the directness of the post, and a good title...but wrong content is wrong content.
Style points or not...he's wrong on several points, and only showing the selective bits of truth that support his arguement. The post is loose!:)
I'd mod it down, but since Taco modslapped everyone who modded posts up in disagreement with his censoring habits and hypocracy, it looks like I won't be modding with this account ever again.
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People who sound like they are smoking crack have a tendency to post more and rant more than others, therefore they give a false impression of the spread of views in the Slashdot community.
I think you are right about that...although even with knowing that, it still irks me at times. Eh...maybe it's just me. YMMV.
Your not alone. I was thinking pretty much the same thing.
I don't read here nearly as much these days...the site is full of paranoid rantings and the political commentary of people who are very deeply indoctrinated in their views. The editors are pretty bad about it sometimes too.
Alot of folks here are truely "open minded" to those who agree with them. That's about it.
Don't much care whether I get modded up or down. Look at the garbage that gets modded as it is. I don't know if up or down is better anymore.
Well...here's the link I used to double check myself to make sure I didn't have my head up my rear.
link
It reads: "Now, what's the point of all that? Well when you get right down to it, it's to keep you and others alive and to keep you out of the "poor house." The problem arises when for any given reason the utility grid loses power. You'd think that your motor acting as an asynchronous generator would cease to generate because it lost it's excitation. If it were just your generator and the power company's, the power would drop out like a heavy duty rock. However that's not the case. There's a factor knows as "resonance" to deal with that's inherit with power distribution systems. Some of it comes from power lines being parallel to each other, thus forming a "capacitor". However most of it comes from "power factor correction capacitors" the power company installs within it's system and inductance in transformers. Maybe some day I'll expand on those to things but for now lets stick with just the effects of resonance."
I have seen that kind of thing said on more than on occasion onm various tinkerer's sites. I wouldn't hook one up to the grid anyways personally just because of the fact that I dont' want to even get into it.
As for what it takes to start one generating, spin up an induction motor as a generator for a few minutes...then stop it, and remove any load. Wait a few minutes and start spinning it again. It'll likely generate. I have an old GE continuous duty pump motor that I got as scrap that does it...and from what I have heard, that's pretty much the norm (I read up on this stuff in the past because I considered trying to make a little generator out of it - decided against it. Would rather just get a proper generator if I need it.)...if it's dead for a longer period of time (obviously, this depends completely on how the motor is built), you'll eventually have it completely dead. Here's another link on to a site that explains it likely better than I can. Link
Basically, here's what is said: "This system depends upon residual magnetism in the rotor to start generating. Almost all the motors I've tried begin generating just fine on their own, with the appropriate capacitor connected of course! If it doesn't start generating, try speeding the motor up. That will usually get it going. However, it is extremely rare to find one that doesn't start.
If a motor doesn't start generating on the very first try, then apply 120 vac or even 12 or more volts DC to the motor for a few seconds. That will usually work to magnetize the rotor and your generator will start by itself from then on.
It is important to not shut the generator down with a load connected to it. This tends to demagnetize the rotor and can cause it to not self-energize. That is, the motor will turn, but it will not produce voltage. It is not a serious problem since the rotor can be remagnetized by following the instructions in the paragraph above.
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You could plug lights and stuff into it little cheapo one like the above link describes, and probably a good deal of other stuff - but there are things that wouldn't take too well to it, and I don't even want to have to think about it. Eh...that's just me on that one...to each their own.
Eh...sorry if I came off like a jerk...but the whole guerilla power thing (plugging into the grid improperly/illegally) just annoys the heck out of me...even if just for safety reasons (or personality quirks...I am probably just being anal about it). Alot of the people prone to doing that kinda thing honestly don't know enough to be doing it...I don't and I'll be the first one to admit it, so I leave it the heck alone. If someone wants to crank out the juice on their own though (either off the grid, or with the right hardware to sync their output to the grid), hey...go for it. (But I can't imagine that the permits to do it are THAT hard to get if you really have the appropriate gear for it?) I'd even call it a good thing...I hope the increasing numbers of people using solar eventually knocks the price down to get it in more wide use. I think the price of it is what kills the idea to most people.
Sigh...
Actually, no. No more than induction motors do. Induction generators draw magnetizing current (lagging waveform) from the grid, but they don't generate much in the way of nasty harmonics; to get really bad waveforms you need switching power supplies or SCR-based lamp dimmers.
It's safe to say that alot of people here have switching power supplies.
It won't be. As soon as the induction generator loses its magnetizing current, it shuts down. If you put a capacitor on your end to move your load factor closer to 1 you might need an auto-shutdown based on frequency variation, because the capacitor might allow the generator to auto-excite.
What I was talking about were the people turning old motors into AC generators - those are NOT sophisticated in the least. Actually, alot of- if not most induction motors hold enough residual magnetism to exite themselves up to generating even after a pretty good amount of time of inactivity...but beyond that: Your everyday asynchronous generator/induction motor does NOT cease to generate when it looses it's excitation from the grid. If you still plugged into the grid and spinning that motor/generator, your going to be playing with a number of things - one of which is resonance. All of those parallel electrical lines out there (basically gives a little capacitance), as well as capacitors and transformers are going to give some unusual excitation to the generator, and then the fun starts. Can it be dealt with? Sure...but I wouldn't trust some backyard hackjob induction generator rig to do it right. I don't think the power company would be too casual about it either.
I am not talking about any kind of generator with a system to shut down based on frequency variations, etc. I am talking about some of the idiotic stuff the "gurella alternative power" nutcases out there try to pull. (No permits, no regulations, etc...so lets turn this motor into a genset and jack it into the grid!) That kinda crap gets linemen zapped...that's why those regulations exist. People tend not to be so responsible all too often. Hell...I wouldn't do it myself and I think I have at least a LITTLE clue what's going on.
Well...it WAS basic...now it's getting to the fringes of what I know about AC and the grid. Give me a fuckin' break..at least I admit it, and it's been a few years since I touched wiring, your royal highness. I am pretty sure most of my most recent spewings on this one are correct at least, whether or not we are thinking of the same kinda setup here is another matter.
Eh...whatever. Might have some reading to do, so flame away.
Umm....yeah.
AC induction motors don't produce pulsed DC...hate to rain on your parade. (Well...unless you wanna rectify the damn thing yet.) Alot of people doing this kind of thing don't have alot of use for a DC output...most people want AC to run all of their toys. An AC induction motor sync's to the grid by nature - the problem is when power goes out and the thing is still running. (Well...that's one problem with it anyways.) Plugging the wrong things into an induction motor generator can have some bad results too...hint...most people here, it's safe to say, own at least one thing that could be a problem.
Secondly...have you priced a syncing inverter of any meaningful power level lately? It jacks up the price on the housing by quite a bit...it's not something I'd take lightly. Most people I've seen doing that are doing it with just solar though, although if your comfortable enough to do it, sure...hook up whatever the hell you want to it.
Yep...basic stuff.
My gripe is with the "gurella alternative power" idiots out there who just dump juice into the grid as mentioned in the original post, with no reguards to permits and procedure. Alot of people pull exactly the kinda crap that I am talking about...spin an induction motor up past the point that it would spin just running on it's own and use it to generate power - but it's just not such a smart way to do it.
Poser...hehe. Oh yeah...well your an anonymous coward!
I live here.. I watch the masses of idiots who refuse to obey the speed limits and further reduce the MPG of their gas guzzlers"
Umm...ever heard of the autobahn?
Quit talking like Americans are the only ones who speed and do some traveling...that's a pretty universal phenomenon.
And for that matter....the junk generators your talking about have a problem. They are induction motors...ever tried using one as a regular generator? If a handfull of people do that, it's not going to harm much, but if everyone was doing what those idiots are, it would be a BADLY irresponsible thing to do...it would be corrupting the power grid. If an induction motor is used as a generator on it's own (once exited, etc) and you through any substancial load at it, the waveform goes all to hell, etc. It's a bad thing. Those induction generators are counting on the fact that the power company has more generating capacity than all of the induction motor generators out there by a large margin....you change that, and your gonna have trouble. If the main power goes out, and your induction genny is still plugging (if it's already exited, it will do that...)...the load you have on it might have some interested results.
Not only that...those regulations that you have to notify the power company etc, are there for reasons...safety being one of them. Some guy gets zapped up on the poll because of one of these P.O.S. "generators", I'll be applauding when the idiot running it gets carted away.
This is such basic stuff....why do you people have to fuck it up?
When they have a financier with a few hundred million in the bank, who's fault is any hardship? Bin Laden's personal fortune is probably not far from what the GDP of Afghanistan is/was. If he wanted to help his people, he had far better means available to him...if he wasn't completely nutters anyways.
Well...it's even more than that. If your in a neighborhood with alot of independantly wealthy and older retired (and wealthy) people, they have time on their hands to help more than someone who is working 2 jobs to get by. Some of the wealthy folks out there are really busy people too, but I see alot of them who can afford to be generous with their time.
Making press conferences and organizing things as much as Smart's mom takes time...she can afford to make the time as I don't think they are financially strapped. Taking the time and effort for such things would kinda come easier to someone in their position IMHO. That's about all...and sadly, social status doesn't hurt - but I don't think it's the biggest factor at all.
Well...I kinda agree with this, but with a twist: Alexis Patterson's mother might not be able to organize rallies and press conferences partially due to financial contraints that Elizabeth Smart's mother is obviously not under. Elizabeth Smart also comes from a very very nice looking neighborhood, which has also been doing a great deal to help their cause. (Volunteering, monetary donations etc.) I agree 100% though, that money and race aren't the things that are directly influencing this. Money or social status are advantageous for obvious reasons - but playing the race card on yet another tradgedy kinda sickens me.
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For the record, Fox News actually has mentioned Alexis Patterson, more than once. Ironic...someone like Katz is not likely to watch conservative rubbish such as that, right?
Try life on a Carrier or Submarine...seriously. I am not going to cite examples...just go look it up. It's one very hard lifestyle...especially in times like these.
Almost...if you have cable access, your probably already paying for the cable to be there via your TV bills you have had all along. If you get cable modem access without having cable TV...most systems also surcharge you at least 10 bucks a month.
It's not quite as bad as the original poster said...but not quite as good either. If you exceeded the cap and they knocked you down to 10k a sec or something...I could almost see it, as you'd still get a reasonable deal comparatively...eh...that's MHO.
His drugs...
Umm...I'm not kidding either. Seriously...
Sometimes making a post that is offtopic somewhere is actually important.
Sometimes something needs to be said and heard, and there was no good place to say it. The offtopic post in question was rather relavent as it was reveiling some shadey behavior on the part of some of the editors. Alot of people deserve to know what is going on, so they can see and judge the frequent hypocracy on the part of the management and make better judgements for themselves.
Guess what...if you submit an article detailing an investigation into shadey management practices on slashdot...it's going to get rejected...and the readers have no say in it.
Don't even get me started on their rediculous biases and lack of objectivity. Oh well...as long as they can keep convincing themselves they don't exist....
Yeah...Yang was a real great guy too. Bear in mind, he ran an Athiest police state . He wasn't exactly a terribly nice guy and I usually had to kick his butt. He tended to dislike the more freedom oriented societies, and most other good things in general. Miriam is no better...just on the complete opposite side of the spectrum. They are both extremist wingnuts.
You haven't figured this place out yet. "News for Nerds" is not to be confused with any kind of actual journalism. It's really just little twists on actual happenings...usually to try to reaffirm the equally twisted world views of the editors and apparently a fair number of the readers.
Sadly...I am not even trying to troll here. I'll never be able to mod with this account again because I disagreed with them and modded up one of the forbidden posts they were trying to bury.
we are talking about keyboards being more germ-laden then the average toilet seat. Compared to the current state of the bathroom in my apartment, my keyboard area is suitable for performing brain surgury.
On a lighter note....that was some darn good chili.
I've seen the man...he could keep a whole lotta people hooked up with spare parts. :)
to thank slick willy, who signed a nice bill that dramatically increased the H1B visa limits to deal with our terrible tech worker "shortage". Even the ones who have to return home now from losing their jobs have good work experience from here and will likely just work in the outsourcing market from their own countries...for about 25% or less than you or I would have to ask to live decently. (Not extravagent folks...my car's got 123,000 miles on it, and my apartment is a hole...but at least I have modest student loans and a healthy "oh shit" fund in the bank.) Life can be a bitch for the early years of being a developer.
Welcome to the harsh realities of supply and demand folks. Don't say I didn't warn you anyways...
That was pretty much my point. Just because someone famous said something in the past, and just because a poster agrees with it...doesn't make it somehow magically right...let alone "interesting" or "insightful". Slashdot as a community is kinda lacking in the objective thinking department alot in the last year or two. Being penalized by the editors for modding up a post they don't agree with doesn't help that situation much either.
And according to George Carlin:
"Some people are really fuckin' stupid."
Your likely going to get modded into oblivion for saying it...but I agree with you. Unfortunately, I can't ever mod with this account again because I once modded in disagreement with the management here.
"Freedom of speech" indeed guys.
I hope some other people can see this one for what it is. Everytime someone even mentions an extremely unlikely technological/political option...the slashkiddies have to just jump all over it and cry "Canada!" to the world. Believe it or not kids...sometimes the government makes GOOD decisions...not all bad ones. I will bet anyone ANY sum of cash you've got right now, that THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN...especially not with anything like "passport" as we know it.
Heck...in a sick sort of way, I am GLAD they consider ALL options...it gives the government a chance to peer into Microsoft's fuckups in ways they wouldn't have ordinarily looked at it.
Actually...I don't think it's QUITE that bad in reality...actually it has some hope. The online world is kinda funny like that...if I am walking down the street in any city...there are laws as to what can be see publicly. People don't want their 10 year old kids looking at "moaning cum sluts" or whatever the last 12 spams I deleted were. There ARE places where that's fair game though, and the kids aren't generally allowed there...and that's fine...I'd go as far as to say, that's a good thing. If you have a clear distinction about what is a porno place, such as a prn domain name (which would be kinda like going to an adult bookstore...just in cyberspace) it's easier to keep people away from it. Rather than rely completely on quirky filtering technologies, your just have your kids internet account not allow *.prn. No...it's not infallible or perfect...but it's better than what we have now, which is a situation that kids are getting exposed to some not so right stuff for their ages...(not 17 year olds here folks...there are little ones online)...or because of some dumbass filter they can't even find info on breast cancer.
It wouldn't really be such a bad world if the same rules that applied to adult entertainment in real life, also applied to cyberspace. You can do it, and you can have it...but you can't just go throwing that stuff around anywhere.
Sure...you have the freedom to say what you want...but other people should have the freedom to not have to listen to someone else's crap too.
You keep mentioning the religeous people as the opposition to this...believe it or not, there are more than a few non-religeous people who have a problem with it too.
Don't oversimplify the problem for the sake of reinforcing your biases.
Heh...ok...now I am getting what your thinking. It's easy to misunderstand people on here sometimes...that's my bad.
:)
And in that case...I pretty much agree with you.
As it happens, he might not have his facts nailed down (at least according to you, I don't have the time or the prior knowledge to say which one of you is right), but it remains that his post is tight. I like it. It's well written. I would mod it up.
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Ok...you just said that his facts may be off (they are...look it up) but because his post is "tight" you'd mod it up? You'd mod it up as informative when the facts that it's informing about are completely wrong? Is it just me or does that sound completely illogical?
I don't mean to come off offensive or anything, but seriously... I can understand liking the directness of the post, and a good title...but wrong content is wrong content.
Style points or not...he's wrong on several points, and only showing the selective bits of truth that support his arguement. The post is loose!
I'd mod it down, but since Taco modslapped everyone who modded posts up in disagreement with his censoring habits and hypocracy, it looks like I won't be modding with this account ever again.