> Firstly, Microsoft was dealing with a universal format - HTML. Sure, they may have buggered it up or extended it, but BOTH Netscape and Microsoft needed to deal with that format. In this case, Microsoft is trying to introduce a new format that noone has adopted yet. I don't think it's going to fly - people have too much invested in Adobe's PDF and PS formats.
When Metroviewer is shipped with Longhorn and XPSP3, pdf producers will see that they can switch to Metro and the majority if their audience will need no extra software whatsoever. Couple this with the 80/20 rule (about 80 percent of pdf creators use 20 percent of the feature set) then a free beer Metro export bundled with MS Office will seem very attractive to them.
> Netscape completely and utterly ballsing up their browser (4.x and up) while IE continued to get better and better probably helped a teeny bit, as well.
And Acrobat Reader (the only PDF viewer of which most windows users are aware) Is pretty crappy as well
> I'd be fascinated to hear what all the "IE only became popular because it was bundled with Windows" crowd has to say about Firefox's burgeoning marketshare...
There is a certain fractionof people that will explore their browser options, everyone else will stick with what they are given. I'd be very surprised to see Firefox hit 20%.
> I think they are a bit late in the game, given that most people are used to PDF and have PDF reader installed already. It's like Firefox, sure it made IE dropped below 90%, that's still a tiny splash and I don't think it will have the chance to become the majority.
Netscape had massive market share before IE was bundled with windows. Bundling with windows can do excellent things to your market share.
On the other hand there are some very small very non-invasive extensions that could be easily included without any serious size increase. For instance miniT (drag+indicator) is only 8k.
I kind of miss the old gimp interface (the one without the menubar on the images). but I know most people don't agree. It felt very object oriented to me.
>How would they keep up, test and fix bugs for GNOME on a 6 month cycle or KDE on a ?? month cycle?... >The trouble is that at the moment the Linux desktop is moving too fast (with no effort put on old releases of libs or software) at the moment for major software vendors to put out anything but huge 3D apps that are basically their own desktop enviroment, sandboxed from the rest of the system.
You don't have to keep up with the gnome/kde release cycles, that is the point of versioned libraries and stable ABIs.
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yeah but I hear that the linux people are ging out 2.2 for free these days.
SP2 was released close to OS X 10.3.5 August 2004 SP1 was released close to OS X 10.2.1 Sptember 2002 Windows XP was released close to OS X 10.1 October, 2001
So writing off any Mac OS X flaws fixed in Jaguar or Panther would be like writing any windows flaws fixed by SP1 or SP2, furthermore XP->SP1->SP2 were all free upgrades. Upgradeing to panther costs you $129 (I think).
I've never heard of him, yet completed 3 semesters of calculus differential equations and some signal processing classes that are very math intensive and yet I've never heard of him and I don't "live under a goddamn rock" either.
>I've seen too many documentaries that portray evolution is being the final matter-of-fact proven answer. I have no heard mention of the idea that they believe that evolution simply "most accurately represents what we are currently observing". It's always touted is fact.
But how often do you see it portraied that Maxwell's Euqations, the Quantum Mechanical Model of the Atom, The Standard Model, and Gravitation as best models we currently have to fit our observations?
As an aside a Applied Physics professor once told my class, [paraphrased] del dot B equals zero until further notice. If you're looking for a nobel prize consider putting something on this side.
Now that seamonkey has being discontinued are there any plans to release a libgecko/libgre type package that the aviary products can link against and that the embedders (e.g. yelp/galeon/epiphany) can link agianst?
That's been the plan for quite a while and the suite's being discontinued but I don't see that on the horizon for the next aviary release. I'd really like this to happen but i don't see it on the way.
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You could do it with regexps just as easily
> you got 100% of what was asked.
I thought I read in one of the articles that apple was not following section 2b of the lgpl:
"b) You must cause the files modified to carry prominent notices stating that you changed the files and the date of any change."
According to Wikipedia NetCaptor was the first tabbed browser so your beloved Opera infact copied them.
Furthermore, I've been using native sbg in mozilla for well over a year. It has just been turned off by default.
No documentation indeed:l e_format_specification.pdf
http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flash/flash_fi
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> Firstly, Microsoft was dealing with a universal format - HTML. Sure, they may have buggered it up or extended it, but BOTH Netscape and Microsoft needed to deal with that format. In this case, Microsoft is trying to introduce a new format that noone has adopted yet. I don't think it's going to fly - people have too much invested in Adobe's PDF and PS formats.
When Metroviewer is shipped with Longhorn and XPSP3, pdf producers will see that they can switch to Metro and the majority if their audience will need no extra software whatsoever. Couple this with the 80/20 rule (about 80 percent of pdf creators use 20 percent of the feature set) then a free beer Metro export bundled with MS Office will seem very attractive to them.
> Netscape completely and utterly ballsing up their browser (4.x and up) while IE continued to get better and better probably helped a teeny bit, as well.
And Acrobat Reader (the only PDF viewer of which most windows users are aware) Is pretty crappy as well
> I'd be fascinated to hear what all the "IE only became popular because it was bundled with Windows" crowd has to say about Firefox's burgeoning marketshare...
There is a certain fractionof people that will explore their browser options, everyone else will stick with what they are given. I'd be very surprised to see Firefox hit 20%.
> I think they are a bit late in the game, given that most people are used to PDF and have PDF reader installed already. It's like Firefox, sure it made IE dropped below 90%, that's still a tiny splash and I don't think it will have the chance to become the majority.
Netscape had massive market share before IE was bundled with windows. Bundling with windows can do excellent things to your market share.
> Looks cool, but I could have done without the annoying auto-resizing of Firefox...
Then set dom.disable_window_move_resize to true.
On the other hand there are some very small very non-invasive extensions that could be easily included without any serious size increase. For instance miniT (drag+indicator) is only 8k.
Well his last company, eazel (who developed nautilus) didn't last long either
Hub of abiword fame is workign on an X-less Gtk+ for MacOS.
I kind of miss the old gimp interface (the one without the menubar on the images). but I know most people don't agree. It felt very object oriented to me.
For the love of god apt isn't a package manger its a package and dependency fetcher. "Is apt better than RPM?" makes absolutely no sense.
> "One of the Midwest's only remaining 'hacker' cons..."
What!!!
It was new last year
No, instead they use flowery language like penumbra and using the equal protection clause for all sorts of crazy things like "libery of the contract"
>How would they keep up, test and fix bugs for GNOME on a 6 month cycle or KDE on a ?? month cycle? ...
>The trouble is that at the moment the Linux desktop is moving too fast (with no effort put on old releases of libs or software) at the moment for major software vendors to put out anything but huge 3D apps that are basically their own desktop enviroment, sandboxed from the rest of the system.
You don't have to keep up with the gnome/kde release cycles, that is the point of versioned libraries and stable ABIs.
yeah but I hear that the linux people are ging out 2.2 for free these days.
I'm not a windows fan but
SP2 was released close to OS X 10.3.5 August 2004
SP1 was released close to OS X 10.2.1 Sptember 2002
Windows XP was released close to OS X 10.1 October, 2001
So writing off any Mac OS X flaws fixed in Jaguar or Panther would be like writing any windows flaws fixed by SP1 or SP2, furthermore XP->SP1->SP2 were all free upgrades. Upgradeing to panther costs you $129 (I think).
In what context did you hear of him?
I've never heard of him, yet completed 3 semesters of calculus differential equations and some signal processing classes that are very math intensive and yet I've never heard of him and I don't "live under a goddamn rock" either.
>I've seen too many documentaries that portray evolution is being the final matter-of-fact proven answer. I have no heard mention of the idea that they believe that evolution simply "most accurately represents what we are currently observing". It's always touted is fact.
But how often do you see it portraied that Maxwell's Euqations, the Quantum Mechanical Model of the Atom, The Standard Model, and Gravitation as best models we currently have to fit our observations?
As an aside a Applied Physics professor once told my class, [paraphrased] del dot B equals zero until further notice. If you're looking for a nobel prize consider putting something on this side.
Now that seamonkey has being discontinued are there any plans to release a libgecko/libgre type package that the aviary products can link against and that the embedders (e.g. yelp/galeon/epiphany) can link agianst?
> 4-bit system tray icons in Windows XP? Double-u Tee Eff?
Actually they fixed that a few versions back
That's been the plan for quite a while and the suite's being discontinued but I don't see that on the horizon for the next aviary release. I'd really like this to happen but i don't see it on the way.