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Apple Easter Egg

AnamanFan writes "Many years ago an easter egg was uncovered on the MacOS System 7.1 CD included with the Quadra 660av and 840av machines. A 91mb MOV file shows the Cyclone/Tempest team celebrating with a nice pirate flag in the background. Don't have your old System 7.1 CD from your Quadra? It's now available online, or if you'd like to you're welcome to use the Torrent."

327 comments

  1. Nice... by Tuxedo+Jack · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But not as good as cracking open a Mac 128K and finding the signatures of the design team in raised lettering on it.

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    1. Re:Nice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Here is a picture, from this site

    2. Re:Nice... by lost_tribe_of_fort_w · · Score: 3, Informative

      Some of the early versions of the Mac Plus had this case as well. I guess they were trying to use up the old 128/512 cases. I don't know how rare the plus version is. Hopefully very rare as I have one collecting dust in the closet.

    3. Re:Nice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Amiga 1000 had the same deal with its case. Hey it could emulate a Mac, so it's kind of relevant.

    4. Re:Nice... by repetty · · Score: 1

      >> Some of the early versions of the Mac Plus had this case as well. I guess they were trying to use up the old 128/512 cases.

      I don't think that was the case. I had a later platinum Mac Plus and it, too, had raised signitures in the case.

      --Richard

    5. Re:Nice... by tim_mathews · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Check out Folklore. The story Signing Party is about the signatures. The last paragraph talks about how they slowly disappeared throughout the Mac versions.

    6. Re:Nice... by Nerull · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The Sidewinder Precision Pro joystick I have has similar signatures on the inside.

    7. Re:Nice... by skinfitz · · Score: 1

      ...the names of the design team, except Jef Raskin.

    8. Re:Nice... by whiteSanjuro · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      dude this is easy...you need to cancel all those goatse.cx-esque downloads you've got going on. seriously, i've been a PC user from day 1 and only bought my first mac about 6 monthes ago, but these ridiculous anecdotal claims you make are absurd and clearly you are trolling.

    9. Re:Nice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is this news?(tm)

    10. Re:Nice... by Mancat · · Score: 1

      I have a IIcx that also has designer names under the motherboard. Do they all have that?

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    11. Re:Nice... by fireman+sam · · Score: 1

      I have a mouse with those signatures on the right mouse button. But I think it is a fake

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    12. Re:Nice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      I always thought he was missing too, but on closer inspection he's down in bottom left.

    13. Re:Nice... by Misagon · · Score: 1

      And so does the Amiga 1000 computer. (the first Amiga, another piece of obsolete technology)

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    14. Re:Nice... by TopShelf · · Score: 1

      Wasn't the 500 first, or at least released at the same time? That's what I had in college...

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    15. Re:Nice... by miruku · · Score: 1

      it was definitly the a1000; the a500 was after as it was the first to have the destinctive wedge design (the a1000 was more like a large mac lc2 iirc - i can't be bothered googling for it atm ;).

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    16. Re:Nice... by icepick72 · · Score: 1
      But not as good as cracking open a Mac 128K and finding the signatures of the design team in raised lettering on it.

      No wonder Mac hardware is so expensive!

    17. Re:Nice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like this quote "Most customers would never see them, since you needed a special tool to look inside, but we would take pride in knowing that our names were in there, even if no one else knew."

      You know you're a true artist when you call a screw driver a "special tool".

    18. Re:Nice... by macmaniac · · Score: 1

      Most people don't just keep around Torx T-15 screwdrivers (and it had to be a long shafted one too). Therefore, not a common screwdriver :)

    19. Re:Nice... by dre80 · · Score: 1

      Actually, all Mac 128K/512K/512Ke/Plus machines had the signatures in the case, and it seems about half of all SE units did (from my experience; I've opened several myself - even some "FDHD" or "SuperDrive" units had the signed cases, but not all).

    20. Re:Nice... by ozbon · · Score: 1

      Rather than "Can't be bothered to Google" why not just use the acronym "CBATG" ?

      Smooth, snappy, and sums it up perfectly.

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    21. Re:Nice... by miruku · · Score: 1

      tops! thanks for the link ;)

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  2. FP? Wow! by Tehrasha · · Score: 0

    I still have my 660av and 840av. :)

  3. Ohhhh =) by DigiShaman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pirate flag + bit torrent = hidden message?

    Tin foil hat goes ON

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    1. Re:Ohhhh =) by wootest · · Score: 3, Funny

      Not to mention it being *easter* now.

    2. Re:Ohhhh =) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What does easter have to do with pirates?

      Did they wear bunnies on their shoulders or something?

    3. Re:Ohhhh =) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure the answer can be found somewhere on lapide.zip.net!

    4. Re:Ohhhh =) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why doesn't anyone use the acronym, TFH?

    5. Re:Ohhhh =) by wootest · · Score: 1

      "Easter Egg".

  4. Slow news day? by DraconPern · · Score: 4, Funny

    You know the PSP launch is a failure when you need year old news to fill the Slashdot front page.

    1. Re:Slow news day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The initial 1,000,000 units sold out and it was a failure?

  5. That's one big ass easter egg by wootest · · Score: 3, Interesting

    91MB. I wonder if the team had permission to get it in there or if it "mysteriously appeared" all of a sudden. ;)

    1. Re:That's one big ass easter egg by attonitus · · Score: 0

      It's the MOV file showing the easter egg that's 91Mb.

    2. Re:That's one big ass easter egg by grahams · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, the MOV was the easter egg. It was a hidden file on a System CD.

    3. Re:That's one big ass easter egg by attonitus · · Score: 1

      shit, I guess I might be wrong, ignore me ... I should have waited to download it before I commented.

    4. Re:That's one big ass easter egg by xanadu-xtroot.com · · Score: 3, Funny
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    5. Re:That's one big ass easter egg by Paleomacus · · Score: 1

      Not as big as this easter egg.

  6. seeders! by Moester · · Score: 2, Interesting

    man, with this on slashdot, there will be hundreds of seeds. It is 52 Mb.

    1. Re:seeders! by andy753421 · · Score: 1

      The only time that something getting slashdoted will help me..

    2. Re:seeders! by Moester · · Score: 1

      yeah, in only a few minutes it has 8 seeders now, it will probably end up in the thousands

    3. Re:seeders! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's 50 minutes since you posted this, I've got the torrent running, and there are a whole 23 seeds, at this point. Been running for 12 minutes, DL:8.7MiB UL 10.34MiB ULR:9kBps DLR: 10kbps. Total speed 360kBps...

      Not going too fast, as you can see.

  7. Is this new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've never heard of it before, but I'm surprised it took so long to find such a large file...

    Is this really new?

    1. Re:Is this new? by Tehrasha · · Score: 1

      I think its 'new' that it is available online. Ive known about the movie on the installation CD since it was released.

  8. uh by charon_1 · · Score: 0, Informative

    You spelled torrent wrong

    1. Re:uh by charon_1 · · Score: 0

      ok. n/m. just fixed...

    2. Re:uh by KrisW · · Score: 0

      As of 11:03p.m. EST, it still says "Torent" on the front page.

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    3. Re:uh by Zorilla · · Score: 1

      This article has been corrected, but the front page text body has it still spelled as "torent".

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  9. omg pirate flag... by omicronish · · Score: 5, Funny

    !! Notify the MPAA!

  10. GANGBANG! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    1 chick, 9 guys?

    There are some days I wished these damned machines were never invented.

    1. Re:GANGBANG! by xander2032 · · Score: 1, Funny

      I hate to say it, but I don't think those boys would know what to do with a woman! They have to be the biggest geeks I've ever seen in my life!! We're talking some scary shit here man! This is why I'll never buy a Mac... Look at the people who design them!!!

    2. Re:GANGBANG! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry man computers were invented by dorks and dweebs. Not race car drivers or firemen.

  11. Don't mean to be a dick... by Lisandro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... because i usually love this stuff, but how exactly does a 91MB video file on an CD counts as "easter egg"? And how came no one noticed it before - sheeze, it cant't be that easy to miss.

    PS, the video is cool, and the recompressed version is most welcome!

    1. Re:Don't mean to be a dick... by Compact+Dick · · Score: 3, Funny
      And how came no one noticed it before - sheeze, it cant't be that easy to miss.
      We're talking Mac users. What were you expecting?
    2. Re:Don't mean to be a dick... by gl4ss · · Score: 5, Insightful

      it WAS noticed before.

      YEARS AGO..

      when 7.1 was fresh.

      you know, maybe someone thought that because such 'hidden' stuff in software is called easter eggs that it would be a proper thing to post during easter. well it's not.

      slashdot: add a "DUST FROM THE ARCHIVES" section to put this kind of stuff under...

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    3. Re:Don't mean to be a dick... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      slashdot: add a "DUST FROM THE ARCHIVES" section to put this kind of stuff under...

      No way, we'll just post it as breaking news.

    4. Re:Don't mean to be a dick... by artifex2004 · · Score: 3, Funny
      slashdot: add a "DUST FROM THE ARCHIVES" section to put this kind of stuff under...


      Shouldn't that be dust bunnies from the archives? For Easter, of course.
    5. Re:Don't mean to be a dick... by Queer+Boy · · Score: 1
      but how exactly does a 91MB video file on an CD counts as "easter egg"

      The file was hidden on the CD.

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    6. Re:Don't mean to be a dick... by dcclark · · Score: 3, Informative

      It was, among other things, hidden in an invisible folder deep inside the Installer disk, where nobody who wasn't looking for it would ever be looking.

      In addition, the news is that it's available online (specifically as a Torrent) now, not that somebody found it for the first time. I remember reading this on the (long defunct) appleeastereggs.com site about 7 years ago.

    7. Re:Don't mean to be a dick... by fm6 · · Score: 1

      RTFA. The file was not easy to find. Probably there's a magic command to play it.

    8. Re:Don't mean to be a dick... by bynary · · Score: 1

      Funny? How did parent get modded funny? Abso-freakin-lutely unbelievable.

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  12. Slow Speeds by rickst13 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is it really right to submit a story to slashdot, just because you are getting slow speeds on a download?

    1. Re:Slow Speeds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No worse than getting slow speeds on a download because someone submitted a story to slashdot.

    2. Re:Slow Speeds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it really right to submit a story to slashdot, just because you are getting slow speeds on a download?

      It's certainly ironic!

    3. Re:Slow Speeds by SCVirus · · Score: 1

      Speaking of which the 5 gig act of war torrent....

  13. what was HD size on those macs? by dmarcoot · · Score: 1, Funny

    my old 7500 was only 500 MB, so im guessing the HD they shipped was 250 MB? whatever the size was, if they had a easter egg that was that large that was irresponsible and flagrant abuse and waste of their customers hardware resources and dollars

    1. Re:what was HD size on those macs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Did you read the article, or just glance at it while freebasing? THE EASTER EGG WAS ON THE FUCKING CD.

    2. Re:what was HD size on those macs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YOU ARE DENSE

    3. Re:what was HD size on those macs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was on a system CD you fucking dumbass moron.

      For fuck's sake, read the fucking article you loser.

    4. Re:what was HD size on those macs? by pwnage · · Score: 1

      I think the file in question was on the installation CD. No knowing if it was actually copied to the HD, my guess is no.

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    5. Re:what was HD size on those macs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you read the submission?

      It was on the CD. There was nothing else that needed to go on the System CD - if it wasn't used for this, it wouldn't have been used at all.

      There was no waste of customer resources - it wasn't like they installed a secret flight simulator onto the customer's harddrive or anything...

    6. Re:what was HD size on those macs? by dmarcoot · · Score: 1

      my bad, after re-RTFA it was on sytem cd disc, and probably not the shipping hd

    7. Re:what was HD size on those macs? by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      I think it was 230 MB, actually. AV rated 1 GB SCSI ran about a grand. I still have a Micropolis 2112 from back then.

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    8. Re:what was HD size on those macs? by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      Moot point, the easter egg was on the system software CD.

      LK

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    9. Re:what was HD size on those macs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember about 10-12 years ago going to this video production place that made those annoying car commericals with shit zooming everywhere like "falling rates!" "end of year blowouuuuuutttt" and stuff. They used avid equipment. Avid was a Mac only thing, if I recall. Anyway, they had all these Macs and were showing off the 2 gig storage array they had. It had to be split into 9 or something different partitions due to the limitations of the OS. But I remember at the time going "ooohh. two gig. my god, how will a person ever use two gig?" And then ram -- 24 meg for $700 on a PowerPC 7100. An then gleefully buying the add-on L2 cache for a wickedly large sum.

      This was when Marathon was the cats meow of FPS games. I still like that game.

      Anyway, enough of that.

    10. Re:what was HD size on those macs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you got screwed , mine had a 1gig and my 7600 had a 1.2 gig , I had a lc with a 40MB :)

    11. Re:what was HD size on those macs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, who are you to abuse the meme I started? Firstly, you neglected to include the full stop, somewhat lessening the weight and finality of the statement. Secondly, this guy hasn't demonstrated himself to be DENSE to quite the same degree as the posters I always used to tag--these would invariably be people who continued arguing their points after being definitively shown to be wrong.

      Otherwise, good show. Carry on.

    12. Re:what was HD size on those macs? by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the good old days. The reason that AVID went windows (and was pretty much all windows) was because Apple dropped a lot of slots going from the 9600 to the Beige G3 minitower. I think Avid dicked around with the Magma expansion chasis, but I don't think they were very effective.

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    13. Re:what was HD size on those macs? by Mechcozmo · · Score: 1

      Eh, it was on the CD. So if the System was 150 MB that leaves about 600 MB (assuming 750 MB CD). Or assuming a 650 MB CD, there is still 500 MB of space on there. 96 MB of movie would be a few seconds more being burnt at the factory-- not on the customer's hard drive.

    14. Re:what was HD size on those macs? by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      96 MB of movie would be a few seconds more being burnt at the factory-- not on the customer's hard drive.

      They don't burn installer discs, they have a master (made of gold, IIRC, and stamp them, pretty much like vinyl records. So it doesn't matter how much or little of the CD's capacity is used, it takes the same time to press.

      A few years ago you could buy pressed warez CDROMS, and each had a label showing the app it contained. But you'd often find that the disc also contained a dozen other apps, and sometimes you'd bought duplicate discs with different labels. (After a while I noticed the disc ID number which was common to all these.) These days with 52x or better burners, they're burnt to order (reducing inventory, exposure, and overhead), so few if any freebies (or Easter Eggs, perhaps).

    15. Re:what was HD size on those macs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a Mac Quadra 660av, but the cdrom drive is busted, and I don't have the CD. Most interesting thing I play with on that box is the speech processor, etc. Lots of fun to have a bunch of those voices carry on a conversation. Also, I notice that the internet radio song "I'm a Disco Dancer" features Mac voices. I heard the song once on a station from Paris, but now cannot find it. It was really done well.

    16. Re:what was HD size on those macs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The hidden movie is resident on the install CD. It never installs on the computer's hard drive unless the owner specifically copies it over. Don't do that if you have a small hard drive. Do you have a small hard drive, dmarcoot?

    17. Re:what was HD size on those macs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are dumb.®

    18. Re:what was HD size on those macs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "A few years ago you could buy pressed warez CDROMS"

      You bought warez CDs? WTF! What an asshole you are. Usually people download warez to get the software for free. If you're going to shell out money for software, why not put in the original authors pocket, instead of some crook who stole their work.

    19. Re:what was HD size on those macs? by ralmin · · Score: 1

      Living in China, it's easier to just buy pirated CDs than to bother downloading warez. They cost less than a dollar each, and you don't have to bother backing it up.

  14. Lizard flag in early PPC machines by G4from128k · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My favorite was a real-time rendered flag with a lizard that was shown against the backdrop of the Apple campus. It came on the Powermac 8500 and OS 7.5, IIRC. It was meant to be a fun little demo of the machine's power. The mouse location controlled the angle and strength of the wind and the flag would flutter and move appropriately. If you were aggressive enough with changing the direction of the wind, the flag would break off the pole and flutter to the ground.

    The earliest Mac easter egg that I remember was one that got the dog-cow to say Moof on the Page Setup dialogs circa early system 7 and a hidden break-out game that also dates from the early system 7 era.

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    1. Re:Lizard flag in early PPC machines by chizor · · Score: 1

      yep, the lizard is the one i miss.

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    2. Re:Lizard flag in early PPC machines by J.+Random+Luser · · Score: 1
      The earliest Mac easter egg that I remember was one that got the dog-cow to say Moof on the Page Setup dialogs circa early system 7 and a hidden break-out game that also dates from the early system 7 era.


      The earliest that really impressed me was the IIci rom colour photo of the development team. But a cow-orker deflated me by pointing out the mountain-valley that had been in Finder since day one.

      Good list at Eggs Uncovered
    3. Re:Lizard flag in early PPC machines by threephaseboy · · Score: 1

      Iguana Iguana Powersurgius!
      (not sure of the spelling on that last one, it's been a while)

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    4. Re:Lizard flag in early PPC machines by zbeeble · · Score: 1

      Sad as it is, I was impressed with the Weezer video on the Windows 98 cd. I'd not really seen movies on a PC and it had fonzie in it. Dan

    5. Re:Lizard flag in early PPC machines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was a really neat link. I remember reading about a ton of those back in the day. I use a windows box now, but I do recall fondly the days of the SE/30, the IIci, and IIsi, and the last Mac I owned, a PowerBook Duo 280 -- which, even to this day, was one of the best laptops I ever used.

    6. Re:Lizard flag in early PPC machines by otuz · · Score: 2, Informative

      The first I remember works only on the Mac SE.

      1. Push the interrupt button to enter the mini-debugger.
      2. Type "g 41d89a"
      3. Enjoy the slideshow pictures of the Mac SE team.
      4. ???
      5. Profit!

      The easter egg you describe is described here in detail. (It works on any 1st generation PCI-PowerMac)

    7. Re:Lizard flag in early PPC machines by Mancat · · Score: 1

      That was the Win95 CD. I think they took it off of the Win95 OSR2 CD, though.

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    8. Re:Lizard flag in early PPC machines by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I remember that. I can't believe I actually paid for a Windows upgrade! : /

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    9. Re:Lizard flag in early PPC machines by Budrick · · Score: 1

      No, it was on the OSR2 CD, at least the ones that Time Computers were distributing with new PCs.

    10. Re:Lizard flag in early PPC machines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I read many times that the Lizard flag trick only worked on some first generation PCI machines, but later found that this was not true... It works on every PowerPC Macs with a specific version of the Mac OS (I don't remember which one. I got it running on a 6100 at an acceptable speed.

    11. Re:Lizard flag in early PPC machines by Steve+Cowan · · Score: 1

      The "iguana iguana powersurgius" worked in all the first-gen PCI Power Macs (7200, 7500, 8500, and I think 9500). With my 7200/75 I was never able to get the flag to fly off the pole though. Did anybody ever have any luck with that? Maybe mine just wasn't fast enough to generate all that wind speed.

      There were even modifier keys you could use when bringing up the easter egg to get it to display FPS.

  15. Re:Don't mean to be a dick... RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It is a hidden file, sure, it doesn't involve a weird random keystroke or a full version of a flight sim, but it's still a hidden "treat."

    PS, i think this video is kinda lame. The coolest thing is maybe seeing the awesome fashion sense of those days.

  16. Champagne in Dixie Cups by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's kind of cool seeing how even during some of the dark days under shitty management, creative people were doing cool things at Apple, and pretty much keeping it alive.

    I do video on the Mac, and I've done it, off and on, since 1992. The AV models were a big step forward in terms of making the technology available at a cheap price. (I still have a Nubus TruVista+ card that I can't bear to part with because it cost so much back in the day. Probably worthless now.)

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    1. Re:Champagne in Dixie Cups by SA+Stevens · · Score: 1

      Actually, having worked in a few skunkworks-type settings in the past, working under 'Shitty Management' actually improves the cultural depth of the workplace, and the work output.

      It's when a company is a happy-shiney success that 'progressive management' rolls in with those scary 'psychological' HR types and kills any possibility of good energy.

      Apple, H-P, and most other 'big biz' tech outfits these days don't have the old spirit. Never will again.

    2. Re:Champagne in Dixie Cups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Judging by your posts - you indeed sound like a guy who would be doing video ...

      Art has always been a honorable refuge for people who lack intellectual capacity to do more complicated ( and this more interesting ) things.

    3. Re:Champagne in Dixie Cups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, how I wish I could claim that honorable refuge! Too lazy, I guess.

      But you do have me pegged.

  17. *Shudders* by CypherXero · · Score: 5, Funny

    Early 1990's....*shudders*

  18. Bad timing. by Cheapy · · Score: 1

    Poor Bram, a direct link to a torrent is posted to the front page of Slashdot right after a new version of BitTorrent is released.

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    1. Re:Bad timing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Poor Bram, a direct link to a torrent is posted to the front page of Slashdot right after a new version of BitTorrent is released.

      You don't need the new version for this torrent. I downloaded it using 3.4.2 no problem.

    2. Re:Bad timing. by v1 · · Score: 1

      Brahm's web page only lists a link for "Old OS X Client" - any idea where the "New" (4.0.1) for OS X is at? Recalled? Not released?

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    3. Re:Bad timing. by jrockway · · Score: 1

      Just download the source code and run the utils under the Terminal. python btdownloadcurses blah.torrent. Easy.

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  19. System 7.1 cd?? by lilricky · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Don't have your old System 7.1 CD from your Quadra? It's now available online, or if you'd like to you're welcome to use the Torrent." Cool, where is the System 7.1 CD then? :)

    1. Re:System 7.1 cd?? by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      Well, Apple has System 7, and a lot of other really old software, available for free download . Hell, they even have Apple ][ stuff!

    2. Re:System 7.1 cd?? by otuz · · Score: 1

      Yeah! But not System 7.1!

  20. Don't Worry! by nxtr · · Score: 1

    It IS the MPAA!

  21. Re:FP? Wow! by wpiman · · Score: 1

    You had both? Nice. I had a 660AV. It packed a whopping 25Mhz processor (840AV was 33Mhz I believe). At the time- it was the coolest thing ever- with reasonable VR capabilities- built in modem- and a Video input. In college- it was great cause it was nearly the only computer that had the video in. I had my Ninento (not even Nintendo 64) and a VCR (no DVD) so I could use it as a TV as well- saved alot of room. I bought the overclocking set but never was able to get the machine to run stable with it. Again- Apple was the first to market with an idea- but never fully capitalized on it.

  22. RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Idiots! Read the submission! It says "Many years ago, the egg was uncovered." Meaning it's NOT NEW. The availability of this video is what is new.

    Dumbshits...

    1. Re:RTFA by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      bullshit. not even the availability of the video is really new.

      it was available all this time if you had the cd's, and on the net for years too.

      and most of them are bitching about that this is something that has been known for years(and the article submitter knows it, the editor knows it)... and they still post it(as news)!

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    2. Re:RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry but this video was not available on the net before, and only a few people have the original CD.

      This is the first time the video is on the net, and it was only put there a few days ago, this is NEWS.

  23. Re:WTF?!? Did MSNBC just buy /.? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe it has to do with tomorrow being Easter?

  24. Not new, but newsworthy... by Billy_D_Goat · · Score: 1

    While knowledge of the easter egg has been around for a while, it was never made widely available. There are older websites documenting where and how to get to these types of things. However, the Quadra AV machines were relatively unpopular and by the time the internet took off as a viable mainstream way of sharing, most Mac users had lost or forgotten their older machines. That seems to me to make it news worthy. This is the first time everyone had a chance to see it. Plus it has a pirate flag and the team, which makes it a cool piece of Apple history!

  25. Black or White? by BobWeiner · · Score: 1

    Anyone have the hidden easter egg file of the QuickTime guys photos morphing to "Black or White"? I remember a friend of mine (who worked on Quicktime back in the late '80s) showed this to me as a hidden easter egg.

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    1. Re:Black or White? by pbjones · · Score: 2, Informative

      it wasnt an easter egg, it appeared on the QT Developer release CD, IIRC QTv1.5

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  26. oh come on, be fair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    its a Sony, what did you expect ?

    BetaMax
    MiniDisc
    Memory Stick
    UMD

    you would think they would of got the hint by now

    1. Re:oh come on, be fair by shobadobs · · Score: 1

      3.5" floppy.

    2. Re:oh come on, be fair by name773 · · Score: 1

      i hear minidisc is big in asia... i bought one when the storage was cheaper than an equivalent flash card, it's a pretty good device (player/recorder), and magneto optical media is really neato
      but yeah...

    3. Re:oh come on, be fair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
      Betamax - Sony was just as liberal with the licensing as JVC was with VHS, but the latter ended up storming the market having, as it did, the rather necessary "innovation" of 2+ hour recording times (meaning you could actually put an entire movie on one cassette.)

      MiniDisc is very popular. Just not in the US. In Europe and Asia it's extremely strong.

      Memory Stick hasn't been taken up by third parties, but I don't see users complaining. Seems relatively popular.

      UMD is just one of those things that's a new technology that fills a niche. There isn't really a non-proprietary alternative. Whether it'll succeed or not has to do with whether it's actually necessary, not whether it's an example of Sony's NIH syndrome.

      Sony is also the inventor of the 3.5" floppy. Just thought I'd mention it.

    4. Re:oh come on, be fair by SewersOfRivendell · · Score: 4, Informative
      Sony is also the inventor of the 3.5" floppy. Just thought I'd mention it.

      Hmm... I doubted this statement, but I was wrong:

      In 1980, the 3.5 inch floppy drive and diskette was introduced by Sony.

    5. Re:oh come on, be fair by Gordonjcp · · Score: 0
      Betamax

      Still in use, kind of. Betacam is still the most popular professional video format, and won't be supplanted by any of the digital formats for a *long* time


      Minidisc

      Still in use in radio studios and theatres. Probably will be replaced by something, but not for a very long time. There's nothing even remotely near replacing it yet.


      you would think they would of got the hint by now


      "would *have*", not "would of". Learn to speak English.

    6. Re:oh come on, be fair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Betacam rocks, much better colours then DV, but cleaning the heads all the time is a pain.

    7. Re:oh come on, be fair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would radio studios use minidisc? Audio is much easier to deal with then video, from what I know all radio studios are computerized.

    8. Re:oh come on, be fair by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

      Because a minidisc recorder is a hell of a lot easier to carry about that a computer.

    9. Re:oh come on, be fair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People love railing on Sony's use of non-proprietary standards for the PSP (example - UMD). Nintendo Fanboys anyone? Nintendo's NEVER used a non-proprietary cartridge or disc format, have they? :p

  27. Re:FP? Wow! by vought · · Score: 1

    840AV had a 40MHz 68040 and a 66MHz AT+T 3210 DSP.

  28. Re:WTF?!? Did MSNBC just buy /.? by Frankie70 · · Score: 2, Funny


    If this Easter Egg was discovered so many years ago, then how come the news is only appearing on Slashdot now?


    You must be new here.

  29. Re:WTF?!? Did MSNBC just buy /.? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If this Easter Egg was discovered so many years ago, then how come the news is only appearing on Slashdot now?

    Maybe because there was no Slashdot in 1993?

  30. No, that's just good compression by QMO · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think that if you read the story post again you'll get some interesting information.

    You say 91 Mb, the GP says 91 MB, but the story says 91 mb. I am very interested in the compression algorithm that fits any .mov file into less than an 80th of a byte. I would like to fit my entire music collection on my Atari 800, or my TI-82 graphing calculator.

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  31. Pirate flag? by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 1, Redundant

    So the BitTorrent is..uh...pirating a pirate flag movie?

    That's almost as bad as Pirates_of_the_Carribean.torrent.

    1. Re:Pirate flag? by Jabolio · · Score: 1

      Heh. Pirates of the Pirates of the Carribean.

  32. Velcro! by Wysz · · Score: 3, Funny

    I love the guy who has the Velcro shoes. So much more convenient than laces, I wonder why they're not popular anymore.

    1. Re:Velcro! by Wysz · · Score: 1

      Of course by "love the guy," I umm, uh, I mean that I like the idea of him wearing the shoes. And yes, I know that comma should be a semicolon.

    2. Re:Velcro! by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      Protest all you want, but the dead give-away is that you noticed his shoes in the first place. Not that there's anything wrong with that. =)

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    3. Re:Velcro! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They kind of are. Give it time and I suspect you'll see them again. Do you remember those Kangaroos shoes with the little kangaroo emblem in white? This was back in 1984-86 I remember wearing them. Those and those moonboot snow boots. Last year, in the winter, I saw some chick wearing the moonboot shoes and I was like 'WTF?' nobody wears those anymore. That's how fads work, I guess. People a lot cooler than me start wearing them because nobody else will and next thing you know everyone is wearing them.

    4. Re:Velcro! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As Donald Norman noted, there's a cost: children find it so easy they keep ripping them open (riiiiiip!).

      Also, they don't provide the support that athletes typically need. You'll probably never see a marathon runner with velcro shoes.

      With shoes where such issues are less important, velcro is doing just fine, thanks. My Teva sandals have velcro, as do my cycling shoes.

    5. Re:Velcro! by sindreengen · · Score: 1

      actualy they are still quite popular with the bums, and people living under bridges

    6. Re:Velcro! by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 2, Funny

      Not popular? But I still have two pairs...

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    7. Re:Velcro! by Thing+1 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      At first I read this as "Velcro soles" and thought, "Cool! He can walk on carpeted ceilings!"

      Me, I have shoes (Reebok) that have both laces and velcro. Very nice, because you tie the laces, then strap them down with the velcro so they don't come untied.

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    8. Re:Velcro! by schiefaw · · Score: 2, Funny

      My little sister had velcro straps on her shoes when she was a kid (around 9 years old). She would cry and scream because she couldn't get the straps to line up perfectly. Should have been a warning sign, I guess. Not the shoes for obsessive compulsives.

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  33. The link title is a little misleading. by RenaissanceGeek · · Score: 4, Funny
    I was rather excited about the Macintosh System 7.1 CD finally becoming available online, and similarly disappointed that the only bit now available is the easter-egg movie.

    As nice as that is, that's not what the title of the link says.

    Although Macintosh System 6.0.x, System 7.0.1, and System 7.5.3 are both available for download for free from Apple (in "convenient" floppy-disk-sized pieces for those systems that have no CD-drive), System 7.1 remains unavailable (except via eBay, of course) due to, I believe, some liscencing issues with PowerTalk, or something. It's vaguely rediculous that software that is useful only for computers that are basically free/garbage at this point should still be subject to that kind of restriction when the newer 7.5.3 isn't.

    There's a high probability that issues like that in Apple's history is what leads their management to either aquire technologies outright (like NeXT) or develop an equivilant in-house (like Dashboard instead of Confabulator) instead of liscencing them (like Be wanted Apple to do with BeOS.)

    It means that the only force to consult in the future when deciding what happens to a given bit of code is Apple itself. MUCH simpler.

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    1. Re:The link title is a little misleading. by Queer+Boy · · Score: 2, Informative
      It's vaguely rediculous that software that is useful only for computers that are basically free/garbage at this point should still be subject to that kind of restriction when the newer 7.5.3 isn't.

      7.5.5 runs on the same hardware that 7.1 does and is just as stable. It doesn't use much more memory and doesn't take up much more space. The ability to connect to the internet with an old Mac (which you can only do with 7.1 through hacks) makes the negligible amount of extra resources used worth it.

      What ticks me off is that 7.6 is not available for free from Apple. It's the last version that ran on 030 Macs and is a big improvement over 7.5.5. Well, at least Apple gives away some of their old system software for free. I don't see old versions of OS/2 or Windows 3.1x online.

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    2. Re:The link title is a little misleading. by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      MS hasn't sent cease and desist letters to sites like bootdisk.com, if that counts.

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    3. Re:The link title is a little misleading. by stoney27 · · Score: 1

      Just one little correction, it is konfabulator, http://www.konfabulator.com/

      And I think it will still be better then Dashboard. :)

      -S

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    4. Re:The link title is a little misleading. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Careful -- you're being a bit misleading, too.

      As John Gruber noted, Dashboard and Konfabulator are quite different in implementation. Dashboard is similar in what it looks like, but that's about it. Konfabulator widgets are not HTML+CSS.

      Of the 3 categories you list,
      - In addition to NeXT, they've bought other things that were valuable to them -- what became iTunes, for example.
      - Where they developed "an equivilent in-house", well, every example I can think of is *significantly* better than the original.
      - And they also license many things: you need a license to ship an MP3 encoder, for one. Look at the about-window for your Apple programs and see how many things they licensed.

      The rule seems to be "we'll do what we need to do to make a great product", *not* "we don't like licensing". If something is close to what they'd build anyway, they buy it or license it. If nothing like what they want exists, they build it themselves. Don't read too deep into individual decisions.

    5. Re:The link title is a little misleading. by Compenguin · · Score: 1

      yeah but I hear that the linux people are ging out 2.2 for free these days.

    6. Re:The link title is a little misleading. by C_To · · Score: 1

      Remember all Mac's had some version of a Apple OS installed when they were purchased. PC's on the other hand could have DOS, DOS and Windows, OS/2, and other OSes installed instead.

      Apple wouldn't lose money posting those images because, to use them, you had to buy their hardware. On the other hand for OS/2, Windows and DOS you usually didn't have to buy anything else from Microsoft or IBM (and you could of bought the system with no OS).

    7. Re:The link title is a little misleading. by gklnx · · Score: 0

      Although Macintosh System 6.0.x, System 7.0.1, and System 7.5.3 are both available for download for free from Apple...

      I wonder if it would be a good strategy by Apple to allow free downloads of Mac OS 10.0, or even 10.1 (since the .0 release kind of sucked).

      This will help migrate the rest of the die-hard pre-OS 10 mac users to the newer OS.

    8. Re:The link title is a little misleading. by Atsi+Otani · · Score: 1

      I wholeheartedly agree about 7.6.
      IMO, it's the best version of the Mac OS for the 68K machines and the earlier Power PC Machines. I was constantly annoyed by this when I had a running LC 630 a few years ago.

  34. POS: format isn't recognized. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    On windows, it isn't recognized by windows media player, media player classic, or even Apple's quicktime media player. It's the suck.

  35. Re:FP? Wow! by Tehrasha · · Score: 1
    840av clock chipped to 48Mhz baby! Some people got 50Mhz out of them, but then the serial ports got wonky.

    My 660 is a 'Centris' model, which IIRC meant it was only 20Mhz from the factory instead of 25Mhz. This too was easily fixed, in fact I believe mine has a 33Mhz clock in it.

    My 840av currently stands as a dedicated webcam.

  36. Did somebody say Quadras? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Danamania in 3... 2... 1...

  37. Re:DO NOT DOWNLOAD FROM THE TORRENT by Armadni+General · · Score: 1, Informative

    I think you're wrong.

  38. Apple II egg by MiKM · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I still like the egg on the old Apple II (I forget which kind) that played back the devteam saying "Apple II".

    1. Re:Apple II egg by BobWeiner · · Score: 1

      I believe that was the Apple IIGS. Here's how to do it:

      1. Remove all disks from the drives
      2. Restart the computer
      3. When you see the Open-Apple move back and forth, Press Control-OpenApple-Option-N
      4. Sit back and enjoy!

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    2. Re:Apple II egg by Dahan · · Score: 0

      ROM 3 machine required for the sound clip. Otherwise, you just get a list of the people on the IIGS team.

  39. Another great Quadra 840av easter egg by mackman · · Score: 0

    If while booting the computer you press the NMI button (the little button on the front that isn't the reset or the power button), instead of the standard sad mac sound, you get a sampled screeching breaks and car crashing sound!

    1. Re:Another great Quadra 840av easter egg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That easter egg wasn't specific to the 840AV. Several Macs had that egg.

    2. Re:Another great Quadra 840av easter egg by 256byteram · · Score: 1

      That's probably the startup crash sound.

      Audio clips of the sounds from various Macintosh models are available here.
      http://www.tcp.com/~dschaub/readme.html

      I think the one you're talking about is Crash_PowerMac.

      My Performa 6300 gives Crash_PowerMac_Card when I take the RAM out and turn it on. I laughed so hard when I first heard it.

      The Apple developers always seem to have a sense of humor.

    3. Re:Another great Quadra 840av easter egg by J.+Random+Luser · · Score: 1

      The "Sad Mac Chimes" varied with models.
      You youngsters disappoint me, gloating over 12 yr old Eggs when you should be diggin' a whole crop of new ones out of OS-X

    4. Re:Another great Quadra 840av easter egg by green+pizza · · Score: 1

      Not an easter egg, that's the hardware failure sound. There were several different such sound clips on different models of Macs from the late 1980s to mid 1990s.

    5. Re:Another great Quadra 840av easter egg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would qualify this as an easter egg, hardware failures were very rare on these Macs, and the fact that it's a car crash sound is more confusing than anything else to users, so this is probably something that was hidden from the Apple management by the team.

  40. What the hell do I need to play this thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I've tried quicktime, windows media player, divx player and media player classic...no dice.

    1. Re:What the hell do I need to play this thing? by Slashcrunch · · Score: 1

      mplayer :)

    2. Re:What the hell do I need to play this thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An ancient Macintosh?

    3. Re:What the hell do I need to play this thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      VLC works just fine under w2k.

  41. Re:FP? Wow! by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

    Wasn't that "modem" a geoport? Ack!

    I wonder when LK will wade in to tell us what he thinks about Geoports. =)

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  42. Re:POS: format isn't recognized. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm having the same problem.

  43. Cutting Edge Audio Compression by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

    It compresses both frequency and time, so you hear it all at once in a one second burst.

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  44. Re:POS: format isn't recognized. by Billy_D_Goat · · Score: 1

    The file was probably made using QT 1 or 2. It uses the old Video compression. I'm not sure what effect this would have on other platforms. Does the Window QT API support the Video compression? I have a Mac running X and it plays fine in the most recent version of QT player.

  45. Re:FP? Wow! by wpiman · · Score: 1
    That machine was like $4K in 1992 dollars wasn't it? That could make you the owner of the world's most expensive webcam.

    My Centris 660AV is still in my parents house. I should check on it tommorrow on Easter. I had an external 1 Gig SCSI drive. Today- I carry a 1 Gig USB key fob. Makes me wonder if in ten to fifteen years if we will all be carrying around terabyte usb sticks.

  46. Did anyone bothering Checking? It DOESN'T WORK! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean you spend 10 minutes downloading the dam thing via bittorrent and it won't play in any media player. WTF? That and the quicktime version seems to have flaky audio. Great find!

    btw the file is called Our Gang! with no file extension.

  47. Re:POS: format isn't recognized. by aristotle-dude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now you know how mac users feel when we can't play WMV 9 files that use some new windows only codec.

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  48. Your sig... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... should totally be "I work for the Department of Redundancy Dept. is where I work."

    1. Re:Your sig... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it shouldn't. Trust me.

  49. Original file may ONLY play on Macs... by Billy_D_Goat · · Score: 5, Informative

    I noticed some people complaining about being unable to play the bittorrent original movie file. I suspect this is because of the age of the file. It was probably made using QT 1 or 2 and is in the ancient "Video" compression. Also, the file uses the classic mac resource identifiers and lacks a file extension. Anyone having trouble might try adding .MOV to the end of the Our Gang! file. The file DOES work on Macs though using QT.

    1. Re:Original file may ONLY play on Macs... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Well it might play if there was something that could uncompress it. StuffIt expander sticks the resource fork into the __MACOSX directory. Adding .mov to the filename does not fix this problem. Copying the "__MACOSX/._Our Gang!" file to "Our Gang!/rsrc" doesn't work either.

    2. Re:Original file may ONLY play on Macs... by bani · · Score: 1

      renaming to .mov doesnt make it playable either.

    3. Re:Original file may ONLY play on Macs... by MemoryAid · · Score: 1
      I noticed on my mac that the sound was pretty low quality, like the codec was different enough to induce noise. Also, I found the cinematography and editing to be very amateurish, to the point where I wouldn't have kept watching if the movie were much longer.

      In both respects, things have come a long way since 1992.

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    4. Re:Original file may ONLY play on Macs... by McDutchie · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately the file is compressed using Mac OS X 10.3's lame zip utility which splits the resource fork off into a completely incompatible __MACOSX directory, so that only other users of Mac OS X can decompress it and get a usable file! (Sheesh, you'd have thought they'd encode it with MacBinary instead.)

    5. Re:Original file may ONLY play on Macs... by slavemowgli · · Score: 1

      Interestingly enough, file(1) does identify it as a Quicktime movie, but Quicktime itself still refuses to open the file, claiming it is "not a file that Quicktime understands".

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    6. Re:Original file may ONLY play on Macs... by itomato · · Score: 1

      I haven't tried VLC, but QuickTime 6 is doing that for me.

      Is it a raw resource file or something?

    7. Re:Original file may ONLY play on Macs... by slavemowgli · · Score: 1

      To be honest, I don't know - I don't know about Macs at all really. The resource fork seems to be in a separate file, though.

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  50. Re:Huh? by krray · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry -- it's Saturday night. We're bored. The answer then is: NO

  51. Re:FP? Wow! by Tehrasha · · Score: 1
    'Back in the day' I bought my 840 near the end of its sales life. Bare bones. No HD, no RAM. I bought it as an 'upgrade path' for my 660 and dont remmeber what I paid for it. But I think when I bought my complete 660 system it was just below $3K.

    14" AV monitor, 32MB RAM, 230MB HD, 2xCDROM, Geoport Modem, KBD, Mouse

  52. Do you want MORE? by Jugalator · · Score: 2, Informative

    www.eeggs.com seems to be a good site for more easter eggs, not only computer related ones.
    In case you're into that sort of thing.

    They even have RSS feeds for daily updates.
    rofl, who subscribes to those? :-p

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    1. Re:Do you want MORE? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      rofl, who subscribes to those? :-p

      rofl, the Easter Bunny!... :-|

  53. But surely not as bad as.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Butt_pirates_of_the_pound_you_in_the_ass_prison.to rrent.

    This post has to be good for at least three pieces of flair considering all the underscores I had to type.

    1. Re:But surely not as bad as.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what about pirates_of_silicon_valley.torrent ?

  54. Re:WTF?!? Did MSNBC just buy /.? by Anonymous+Luddite · · Score: 2, Funny

    >> If this Easter Egg was discovered so many years ago, then how come the news is only appearing on Slashdot now?

    Don't worry, It'll get posted twice to make up for the delay...

  55. Re:FP? Wow! by Badfysh · · Score: 1

    I believe it was the fastest desktop on the planet at the time. Mine only died a year ago.

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  56. Re:No, that's just good compression by shrewd · · Score: 0

    yeah metric can be difficult to new-commers.....

  57. Re:POS: format isn't recognized. by dlichterman · · Score: 1

    quicktime alternative is not working either

  58. My only easter egg by fm6 · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you can find the easter egg in Delphi 7, I'm the guy holding the giant plastic rat.

    1. Re:My only easter egg by RealityMogul · · Score: 1

      It's late and I can't figure out how 3 mods found a Delphi comment so funny. I can't even imagine 3 mods even knowing what Delphi is. So, where's the egg? I happen to have D7 on my machine right now. Please say that the easter egg has something to do with some way to completely shut off that damn Delphi Direct thing!!!

    2. Re:My only easter egg by fm6 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I left Borland a couple years ago, and anything relating to the company is subject to traumatic amnesia. So I can't tell your how to shut off Delphi Direct. Or find the Easter Egg. But both are possible. GIYF.

      You're right, it is suprising that 3 people even know what Delphi is. But then Delphi has always had the pervase, but poorly publicized following in the developer community.

    3. Re:My only easter egg by kryptkpr · · Score: 1

      Any ideas on that RTL bug that makes Delphi7 compiled apps sometimes crash on XP SP2 machines, and almost always on Intel Hyperthreaded machines? My users would thank you..

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    4. Re:My only easter egg by fm6 · · Score: 1

      My departure from Borland was a tad depressing, and I no longer track product issues. The library people were pretty obsessive about that sort of thing, so if you take this problem up with somebody who still works there, you'll probably get results.

    5. Re:My only easter egg by Lord+Crc · · Score: 1

      Any ideas on that RTL bug that makes Delphi7 compiled apps sometimes crash

      Have you checked out QualityCentral?

  59. Re:WTF?!? Did MSNBC just buy /.? by Ether3k · · Score: 1

    "Maybe it has to do with tomorrow being Easter?"

    This.

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  60. Lunch? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    T-He.

  61. Re:POS: format isn't recognized. by No+Panic · · Score: 3, Informative

    Had to add extensions to the filename to make it play in WinXP.

    Added ".mp4" to the filename, and it plays in WMP, but sound was missing.

    Added ".mov" to the filename, and it plays OK in Quicktime (and sound works). ...

  62. Packard Bell by toddestan · · Score: 1

    On a somewhat unrelated note, I remember a Packard Bell 486 I got around 1994 or so. This was supposed to be a multimedia PC, and Packard Bell decided Windows 3.1 wasn't flashy enough. So they had their own "Navigator" GUI that ran on top of Windows 3.1 that automatically started whenever the computer started up. And part of Navigator was this amusing and very cheesy video of a mime showing you how to use the computer. The video was over 40MB (if I remember right), and the computer had a 420MB harddrive, so this was a huge waste of space. Not to mention all the other space that the Navigator program took up. So after playing around with it for a bit, it got deleted.

    If anyone has that video though, I would love to see it again. It's probably even funnier now than it was then.

    1. Re:Packard Bell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I worked at OfficeMax at the time. We sold a shitload of those grey PBells -- probably very similar to the one you described. It had a two-tone case, with little ripples on the sides. This was right when the P5 was hitting about 75-120 mhz. But when Digital released a consumer model P5 133, and then Compaq with an MMX 166, people were in awe at how Fing fast computers would be. Price for the PBells at 75 was around $1,200-$1,400.

    2. Re:Packard Bell by toddestan · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I had a friend who had one of the P75's. I was jealous of him at the time. But later I laughed at him when I built my 450Mhz AMD system, and he was still running the P75 (and by that time, I had long figured out that PB = junk).

      The one I had was one of the last 486 models, which looked like the Pentium ones. I also remember the ones where you could change the gray plastic ripples to other colors - whatever suited your mood (and this was long before the iMac).

    3. Re:Packard Bell by Brianwa · · Score: 1

      Without anything better to do, I pull out an old HD with Navigator on it and tried to find that video. Unfortunately, I compressed that disk using the DOS "dblspace" utility, and couldn't access the video in Windows XP. Bummer. I suppose if you really want do see the video, I could boot up DOS from that disk and try to copy it...

    4. Re:Packard Bell by otuz · · Score: 1

      Which iMac model allowed yout to change (gray) plastic pieces to suit your mood?

    5. Re:Packard Bell by toddestan · · Score: 1

      Hmm... bummer. I think Windows all the way up to Windows ME could read dblspace compressed drives, but I think support was dropped for XP (support probably never existed for the NT/2000 line in the first place). While it would be pretty neat to see that video again, don't go to too much trouble to try to read that disk. Besides, if you had to compress that drive, you probably already nuked that large video file anyway.

    6. Re:Packard Bell by MemoryAid · · Score: 1
      Which iMac model allowed yout [sic] to change (gray) plastic pieces to suit your mood?

      If I recall correctly, it was the 'Tangerine' and the 'Blueberry.' Of course the grey plastic pieces weren't included; it was assumed that you already had access to them.

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    7. Re:Packard Bell by el_gordo101 · · Score: 1

      I had the same machine. I upgraded the thing to 16MB RAM and eventually got Mindows ME running on it. What a POS.

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    8. Re:Packard Bell by Brianwa · · Score: 1

      I was able to boot into DOS, and I did find several videos, but they were all short clips totaling around 6MB, and there is no mime. I don't recall ever finding (or watching) any large movies, so I can only assume that they decided to drop the movie some time between when our Packard Bells were made (mine is somewhat newer than yours). If you want a copy of theses videos just email me and I'll send them as an attachment.
      Oh well, I tried my best, and even learned a bit in the process...

  63. That's nothing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
    I remember one easter egg where the guy programmed a person in a VW bug who mooned you! Can't remember what the program was but I think it was a graphics program of some sort.

    Anyhoo the guy was going to get sacked for putting the easter egg in the program but when sales took off all was forgiven....

  64. Re:FP? Wow! by import · · Score: 1

    Around the year 2000, I'd been walking home from school one day and some guy had a 660AV on his doorstep so I rang his bell and he gave it to me. He said it was broken but all it needed was a battery. I played around with it, oooh ahhh retro mac with video, I said. Ultimately, it left my hands along with a IIci, a IIfx, a 610, and a couple 6100s for a couple cases of beer.

  65. Re:POS: format isn't recognized. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    download the recompressed version, mpeg4, 10mb:

    http://www.pitt.edu/~clh23/our_gang.mov

  66. how about in OS X? by mashy · · Score: 1

    ooh I remember the System 7 days well.. dragging the text clipping "secret about box" to the desktop activated a hidden brickout game, or an interactive flag blowing in the wind in front of the Cupertino HQ..

    are there any such hidden eggs in OS X?

    1. Re:how about in OS X? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not that I'm going to be able to prove this easily, but I came up with the invocation mechanism, and wrote the patch to the Drag Manager that enabled the "secret about box" mechanism. We had the breakout game ready to go, but nobody could come up with a good way to invoke it. We had a number of code reviews until everyone was satisified it wouldn't break anything. Fun times...

      That was my first significant addition to the OS. :-)

    2. Re:how about in OS X? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that made my day, way back then. not that I can prove it easily, but hey it's slashdot

  67. Re:FP? Wow! by vought · · Score: 1

    The Centris 660AV had two major differences from the Quadra 660AV. The Centris (budget 68040 machines) were rolled into the Quadra nameplate in October, 1993.

    -Tray loading, rather than caddy loading 2X CD-ROM drive.
    -The first manual-inject floppies from Apple.

    The Centris and Quadra 660av both had a 25MHz 68040 on a 32-bit bus and a 55MHz AT&T 3210 DSP.

    The "av" machines introduced some Apple-first and Apple only features, including:

    -Directional microphone with speech recognition (This was a pain in the ass to demo in the student unions I was charged with!)
    -Compsite video input and output; direct to hard disk recording from any analog or s-video source.
    -Direct PowerPC upgradability via a logic board swap - rather than the PDS slot upgrade available for previous Quadra/Centris 6xx/700/9xx machines.

    The serial ports did indeed get strange at overclocking frequencies above 48MHz - due to the logic board's reliance on a half-multiple of the CPU speed, the serial controllers would die pretty ealy on.

    The Quadra 800 (33MHz 68040) was actually more overclockable than the 840av in terms of percentage, but the 840 was, and remains, the fastest 68040 Apple machine ever, coming as it did at the sunset of the 68000 series. The PowerPC 6100, 7100, and 8100 were released March 14, 1994 and even the $2000.00 6100/60 (60 MHz PowerPC 601) easily eclipsed even the 840av in raw computational performance.

  68. ITS TORRENT by UlfGabe · · Score: 1

    not torent.

    geeze, hit that 'r' another time, please?

    or edit!

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    1. Re:ITS TORRENT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thats alot of bullshit coming from a moron who writes with sentence fragments and can't master basic punctutation. Fucking idiot!

  69. Nice machines by green+pizza · · Score: 1

    Like all Quadras, the AV's also had onboard ethernet.

    The text-to-speech and voice recognition were also pretty impressive for 1992, they made good use of the AT&T DSP that was soldered to the mobo.

    My only complaint about the 660av and 840av was the lack of realtime video compression, you could capture video but you either needed a load of ram or a load of disk space as compression was done after capture. Thankfully Radius made a nice add-on board that did realtime MJPEG compression making the AV macs some very nice editing machines if you added VideoFusion, Avid VideoShop, or Adobe Premiere.

  70. Bah by nmb3000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    C'mon, Apple has got to have something better than this "easter egg". It's nothing compared to previous Excel eggs.

    Say what you will about Microsoft, but they (did) have some cool people working on Office :)

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    1. Re:Bah by Ibanez · · Score: 1

      Moof!

    2. Re:Bah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry. I've heard that on the OSX Tiger CD there is an easter egg that will give you the 5 minutes of your life back that you've wasted watching this video.

    3. Re:Bah by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 1

      You forgot to mention that Apple/Linux crowd called the inclusion of the Excel eggs "Bloatware" .

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  71. early 1990s rocked by green+pizza · · Score: 1

    The early 1990s only sucked if you were forced to use a 486 with a 14" VGA monitor.

    1992 was a great year for computing!
    Apple's Quadra 840av was a multimedia powerhouse, Silicon Graphics had both the Indigo2 and Onyx for those who needed more power, Adobe Photoshop 2.0 and 2.5 with the new one-pass color flatbed scanners made color desktop publishing a lot easier and a lot cheaper. You could even buy a good graphics card and 20" monitor bundle for less than $2500! Almost half of what that would have cost just 2 years earlier!!

    1992 rocked, for me at least.

    1. Re:early 1990s rocked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah mac users-- buy a Mac or pay the rent. At least Mac users helped to stimulate the renting situation...

    2. Re:early 1990s rocked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      W e'll, PC users had Wolfenstein 3d :p

    3. Re:early 1990s rocked by neden · · Score: 1

      1992 must have indeed rocked for you, if you had an 840AV, since that machine wasn't released until July of 1993. :-)

      http://www.apple-history.com/noframes/body.php?pag e=gallery&model=840

      I remember this because Fall of '93 was when I got my 660AV. Still have that baby in my basement. Great machines.

      K.

    4. Re:early 1990s rocked by Pope · · Score: 1

      Hell, thanks to eBay, I just picked up a Number Nine 128 video card that MSRPd for $750 back in 1997 for a dollar!

      Now to get the damn drivers...

      --
      It doesn't mean much now, it's built for the future.
  72. Your sig by Dwonis · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Use ISO 8601 dates [YYYY-MM-DD]

    IIRC, ISO 8601 allows a whole bunch of optional syntax that can confuse things. Also, the text of ISO 8601 isn't freely available. Why not campaign for RFC 3339 full-date format dates instead?

    1. Re:Your sig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why not always use UTC?

    2. Re:Your sig by Effika · · Score: 1
      why not always use UTC?

      Because it's easier to tell when people who don't live near you are sleeping.

      Anyway, I'm digging those hip poloshirts and huge glasses. They all are so happy to be finished; it makes me smile.

  73. but... by stefanmi · · Score: 0

    Very true, I hardly consider something an easter egg if it's as easy as pressing down on the remote a couple times and...ooh looky there I guess I can select the person's eyeball...ooh a hidden menu? If you remember those old easter eggs in old versions of excel (where you could fly around), the way to get to those easter eggs wasn't very easy and IMO would be basically impossible to discover without looking it up on the web. So I can't say that they've made this specific egg way too hard to find.

  74. Proof that Apple supports Piracy! by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 2, Funny

    After all, why wave around a pirate flag when you do not support piracy?

    Arrrhhhh, pirates of ye world, unite, Apple be hoisting the pirate colors. Party at One Infinte Loop, Captain Steve is buying the rum! Thar be booty fer all!

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    1. Re:Proof that Apple supports Piracy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  75. Re:FP? Wow! by Tehrasha · · Score: 1

    I know alot of people found the Geoports to be total nightmares. I believe they ended up discovering that the units had bad internal grounding. I must have had one of the few good ones. My biggest disappointment was that they discontinued support for them when 14.4K was dying off. I never heard finally whether a lack of horsepower in the DSP was the reason for the lack of 28.8K or not. Pity, as that was supposed to be the advantage of a software modem. When a new standard arrives, you simply upgrade the software.

  76. The point here... by eltirado · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think the point here is to encourage dialogue about Easter Eggs, not bash Slashdot. Anyone got any cool MacOS X Easter Eggs???

    1. Re:The point here... by Mechcozmo · · Score: 1

      Apple pulled most easter eggs from OS X due to security concerns... but... Press and hold the Shift key and then activate something to do with the UI. Exposé, minimize to the dock, etc. Cool, eh?

    2. Re:The point here... by option8 · · Score: 1

      older, i think DPx versions of X had a fun one. maybe it was rhapsody...

      do a ctl+alt+del at the login prompt, or i think anywhere in the finder, and a dialog would pop up informing you that you were not using Windows NT.

      (ah! found an ars technica review of DP3: http://arstechnica.com/reviews/1q00/macos-x-dp3/ma cos-x-dp3-4.html

  77. From the MPAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the MPAA. We have come to know that you are sharing the file OurGang.zip which is a digital version of this . We advice you to stop sharing the movie immediately and delete all other movies in your computer. We are going to sue you ass off for this till you end up liquidating all your assets. We are sending a subponea your way!

    Thanks,
    Your friendly MPAA agent.
    P.S: How did you manage to compress the movie to such a small size? If you let us know who the author of the compression program (or algorithm) is, we would make a deal with you to sue you just to the level of you selling your car and sue the other guy ass off.

  78. Re:FP? Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd have taken that trade. I was never fond of the 6100, or the G3 machines. I used to work at this small town newspaper that was mostly a Mac shop. There were only four reporters, but we all had these SEs and SE/30s for typing stories using WriteNow!. Sold little machines. I clocked an SE using the Distributed.net client and it cranked out keys at 800 keys/sec. The fastest machine they had at the time was one of the first gen G3 machine that hit around 800,000 keys/sec. But they all interoperated nicely via the ghettofabulous localtalk.

  79. THis does not work for me. by ABeowulfCluster · · Score: 1

    I get a OurGang! file, and it doesn't play. Tried renaming the file to ourgang.mov, and it still didn't work.

  80. Re:My only easter egg [winhat] by winhat · · Score: 0

    And when he had opened the fifth seal, i saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the next guy, but i just remebered how much more lopsided the numbers were in 1995-2000 when linux was the founder of the majority.

  81. Legend 2000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Was the computer called Legend 2000?

    1. Re:Legend 2000 by toddestan · · Score: 1

      Yes, I do believe that is the one. Or maybe it had a slightly larger number (Legend 2050?) I think the Legend 2000 was a 486-33, which I saw a lot of back in those days.

  82. Re:POS: format isn't recognized. by Filberts · · Score: 1

    My WMP for OS X plays pretty much every WMP9 file I can find... And in the rare case that it doesn't, you can always try VLC.

  83. Re:POS: format isn't recognized. by krunk4ever · · Score: 1

    thanks! the renaming trick didnt work for me.

  84. Re:POS: format isn't recognized. by aristotle-dude · · Score: 1

    I usually find that I try VLC first and end up having to resort to the crapastic WMP 9 for OS X when it does not play in the former. i have found some files that refuse to play in both however.

    --
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  85. Re:POS: format isn't recognized. by Ibanez · · Score: 1

    Yeah, and apparently, all the porn sites now use the newest version of WMV, so half my bittorrent downloads end up being worthless. *ugh* :D

    Blake

  86. System 7.1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    7.5.5 runs on the same hardware that 7.1 does and is just as stable.

    Stability claims I'll leave up to others, but 7.1 is faster and much smaller. If not in the actual install, at least in the installer. I don't remember the exact number, but 7.1 comes on about 6 or 7 discs. 7.5.3 comes as 30+ floppies (or on CD.) On top of that, if you download it from Apple's site, the 30+ files form a single disc image. Not very usable if you were handed an old Mac and don't have another machine to do the install from.

    The ability to connect to the internet with an old Mac (which you can only do with 7.1 through hacks)

    Hacks? When my old Mac died a few months back and I was waiting for my new one, I used a System 7.1 machine and don't recall ever having to do any kind of hacks to get it online.
    -gko

  87. Re:Nice...VOID by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 2, Funny
    But not as good as cracking open a Mac 128K and finding the signatures of the design team in raised lettering on it.

    Voided your warrenty on that box real quick, didn't you.

    --
    "It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
  88. Math is Hard by not_hylas(+) · · Score: 2, Informative

    David K.Every had the best collection, hands down.

    http://www.mackido.com/EasterEggs/index.html

    ftp://ftp.tidbits.com/info-mac/info/apple-easter -e ggs-14.hqx

    There is a Apple Easter Eggs 1.5 and I believe a 1.6 version but I can't find it right now.

    A Blue Meanie's Story:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20040212041626/http:/ /w ww.spies.com/~greg/eastereggs.html

    http://web.archive.org/web/20040212093750/http:/ /w ww.spies.com/~greg/a12nonparade.html

    Dig around and append the links in Greg's story on the Wayback Machine and you'll get the whole story.
    He knows where all the bodies are buried. ;-)

    System 7.5's Breakout game was one of the best.

    http://www.mackido.com/EasterEggs/Breakout.html

    MacsBug has a lot of secret stuff still.
    CanOpener v4.0

    http://www.abbottsystems.com/co.html

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    ~hylas
  89. 796 seeders already as of this post. by seanvaandering · · Score: 2, Informative

    Make that 797 when I'm done - I'll let this run for a day or two. ;)

  90. Re:I have three older Apples... by symbolic · · Score: 2, Interesting


    I still have a clone (which I still use regularly), an 840AV, and another model that's sitting behind my desk. I think the 840AV purchase was about the time that Apple started losing favor with me. I know it had some cool features, but for the price (and all the hype we heard from local reps), I was disappointed with the overall performance. I bought the clone after that because it was available at a good price (compared to Apple's prices). So far, that has been my last Apple purchase- afterward, I began acquainting myself with PCs so I could run Linux.

  91. Re:POS: format isn't recognized. by dlichterman · · Score: 1

    thanks man!

  92. No Eggs in OSX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    There was a recent entry on The Unofficial Apple Weblog asking about this. So far no eggs posted by anyone, at least none in the OS itself. Those noted are either for specific apps, or stuff carried over from OSX's UNIX roots (LOTR dates in the calendar files, games in emacs.)

    I recall reading somewhere that Easter Eggs in the Mac OS were so prevalent at one time that Apple actually had a group overseeing them! But at some point (I'm guessing Jobs' return,) a no-egg policy began.

    Even the trusty old, option-selecting "About Finder" egg is gone.
    -gko

  93. If you're ever handed a Macintosh Classic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    ...but the harddrive is hosed and don't have any boot discs, you can still start up the machine. Hold down command-option-x-o after you power it up.

    There was enough leftover space in the ROMs that they put a System(6) Folder in there, accessed by the above key combination.

  94. Some other hardware too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The StyleWriter II printer also has names inside the case. I stumbled upon those when repairing one once. Don't know if any other hardware has such.

  95. This is news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How is this news people!? Half the Apple news items that are posted are compleatly useless... if theres no apple news dont make bullshit into news!

  96. Re:No, that's just good compression by attonitus · · Score: 1
    Oh dear.

    I know I can't really complain given my GP comment, but at least I recognised that what I said made me sound like a twat.

  97. Playback on Windows? by jthorpe · · Score: 1

    I've tried Quicktime, WMP10, VLC and Real - none of them can play this even after renaming to different extensions. 50 Karma points to the first person who figures out how to play it :-)

    1. Re:Playback on Windows? by hcuar · · Score: 1

      Buy a Mac.

      Now, how about those 50 karma points.

    2. Re:Playback on Windows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like mentioned upthere this is an old "unflatten" QT movie, that was not saved in the QT cross-platform format. Quicktime movies created on the Mac are cross-platform by default now since a few years.

      Someone should try to flatten the movie on a Mac using some older utilies.

  98. Re:FP? Wow! by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

    I know a guy who spent big money (coughcough**LK) on an ISDN that hooked up thru the Geoport. Boy was he pissed when Apple dropped it. He still hates Apple.

    (Hey, LK, if you read this, I tease because I love. Just not in that way*. =)

    *Not suggesting that's how you like it either. Not that there's anything wrong with it.)

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    It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
  99. Also on Sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You could take off the side panel on a Sun 386i and find signatures from the design team all over it.

  100. R. by dangitman · · Score: 1
    I doubt Apple has any problem with ye olde seafarin' arts, matey. Surely Jobs has a yacht and a schooner or two?

    I think their next product should be called the iPatch. Available in white or ship-grade aluminium. After all, two eyes are superfluous.

    Note: Parrot available separately. Do not taunt iPatch.

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    1. Re:R. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  101. MOD PARENT UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... and thanks!

  102. Re:I have three older Apples... by justforaday · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...afterward, I began acquainting myself with PCs so I could run Linux.

    Rather than running linux on the machines you already had?

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  103. Looks great! (screenshot) by uibi · · Score: 3, Funny
  104. Re:POS: format isn't recognized. by slavemowgli · · Score: 1

    Yeah, but you'd think that at least Quicktime would be able to play it, considering it *is* a Quicktime movie...

    --
    quidquid latine dictum sit altum videtur.
  105. all of you hypnotised by Apple Marketting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please get over it.
    They are a corporation with corporation lawyers running their corporation money mongering and brainwashing schemes.
    They are shameless in their marketting, ruthless, and their products are just rerolled FREE BSD.

    Big deal I say.

    They are just as bad a Microsuck

  106. Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stupid video.

    No wonder Apple almost folded around this time.

  107. at least you could write your own rant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  108. Photo in the ROM of a Mac SE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi:

    I had a Mac SE--and the motherboard is still on the wall as a piece of art.

    That motherboard had a photo built into the ROM. Hit the interrupt button on the programmer's switch brought up a prompt.

    You typed in an alpha numeric string like G 41D89A and blammo, afew scanned-in photos of the entire Mac Plus crew right there on you screen in glorious one bit black and white.

    Another interrupt and G Finder restarted the finder. Or Multi-finder. (God, I'm old.)

    Last thing, I took some snaps of that motherboard and it's appearing as background art on my boss's website. Yep, twenty years later and my old SE lives on. The case is a buddy's fishtank now.

  109. anyone care to translate? by option8 · · Score: 1

    can anyhone translate what they're geeking out about when showing off the board? there's some gushing about components on both sides of the board, which is understandably new back then, but then they go on about "new age" - is that the ROM? i thought the new age macs were much more recent than the quadras, more in the PPC realm?

    and civic-1?

    PS1?

    and the leftover port for "when all our video-in stuff was out on separate boards" did they ship with that still on? did they call it karma?

    anyhow, i find it interesting that, despite the fact that they could probably have all been fired for being part of the egg, or at least whoever put the 91 meg video on the master could have been sacked, they were still a little coy about putting things on the video itself. the sound cuts out as they're talking, i presume about something on the board that they shouldn't have said, and there's one guy on the team wearing a badge he didn't want on camera, "what do you mean we can't show that? what are they going to do"

    "to you?"

    interesting glimpse into those days. i used to fight to get one of the quadras in the labs at school. the alternative was a centris.

    1. Re:anyone care to translate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      NewAge was the floppy disk controller. Prior to the AV Macs the floppy drive was pretty much bit-banged by the CPU, NewAge was Apple's first hardware floppy controller for thier propritary disk format. (The name of that format I have longe since forgotten.)

      Interesting Factoid: NewAge had terrible noise problems in the PLL section, and there was talk about dropping floppies from the AV machines because newage was unreliable. I eventually found a set of filter components (Not reccomended by the chip manufacturer) which reliably worked - except if you used cheap crappy memory.

      There were several major ASIC efforts in the AV
      models, since each IO device had to opperate without as much CPU babysitting.

      * MUNI - NuBus controller
      * CIVIC - Graphics System (+Video Interface)
      * SEBASTIAN - Graphics Formatter
      * MCA - Memory Controller
      * PSC - IO DMA interface
      * NEWAGE - Floppy Controller
      * VDC - Video-In formatter
      * CURIO - Super IO (Serial, SCSI, Ethernet)
      * CUDA - RTC & ADB
      * ENDEVOR - Graphics PLL

      The Video and sound IO were originally on a separate PCB both for noise isolation and to match the product design of the moment.
      That design changed, and we were able to make the audio work on the main PCB by careful design. It was called Karma becasue the guy who was responsable called it that. Everything had a codename at Apple - I named the 660AV the "Tempest" because we had to have something to call it in the months before marketing came up with "660AV"

    2. Re:anyone care to translate? by option8 · · Score: 1

      thanks much.

      so, which one were you in the video?

    3. Re:anyone care to translate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone in the Video was on the firmware team.
      I was on the hardware team.

    4. Re:anyone care to translate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does anyone know if the MUNI NuBus controller was perhaps named after San Francisco's public transport system?

  110. one egg i've always wanted to try by option8 · · Score: 1

    i have a lot of macs at home. a LOT. but i don't have a mac classic. color classic, 512k, SE, SE/30... yes. but not a classic. or a 128... but that's another rant.

    apparently the classic had an undocumented feature in the ROM that allowed it to boot without a floppy. if one held down Command + Option + X + O whilst turning on the computer, it would boot into a very limited system 6.0.3 shoehorned into the ROM.

    considering how much room this took up in the precious ROM, and how bloody useful it would be to boot without spinning media, it's amazing it was hidden away.

    http://www.savetz.com/ku/ku/byard_system_in_the_ma chine_the_january_1991.html for more.

    1. Re:one egg i've always wanted to try by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a Mac Classic, and it boots in around 4 seconds using the ROM system. I used to use it for some rare applications that didn't work well with System 6.0.7.

      I remember that on some occasions the trick wouldn't work, I'm not sure why (I think that it was something about the Starup Disk control panel).

      If you do a get info on the ROM disk, at the right of the "Where:" item it's written something like "Hidding inside this machine"

  111. Old XT DOS easter egg by satsuke · · Score: 1

    Here is a magic way to clear disk space on any XT class machine.

    do the following

    debug
    g=c800:5

    just select most any option like change the HD interleave or low level format = instant drive space.

  112. Re:Nothing important to say.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuck you and the mods. He summed this story up perfectly.

  113. Re:FP? Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The 660s and 840s had different PPLs for the main CPU, In the lab, we got a 660 to run to 60MHz, the 840 (Bigger board, longer traces) ran to 45MHz.

    I still have the only 40 Mhz 660AV.

  114. Unzip it on OS X... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    with PearPC.

  115. Commodore 128 by selfabuse · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My boss was one of the guys who worked on the Commodore 128 - there's a key sequence you can press (I don't recall what it is off the top of my head - I'm sure a quick googling will turn it up) that will bring up all the engineers names, and an anti-war message. I never had a 128, but I found someone on IRC a couple years back that had one right next to him. I googled up the key sequence, and relayed it back to him, and he read back everything it said to me. It was pretty neat that I work in a pretty small (under 20 employees) company, and my bosses name pops up on a C128.

    1. Re:Commodore 128 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SYS32800,123,45,6

  116. I posted the original comment on Folklore.org by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You make my (Easter) day!

    Not that I can prove this easily but I posted the comment on Folklore.org (in the Pirate Flag story) where I mentionned the flag found in the 660av/840av movie easter egg. The guy that did make the movie available found about it while reading my comment.

    Now I'm happy to find that the movie is at last available on the net and that there is a Slashdot thread about it!!

    In the days my friend had a brand new Centris 660av I found about the trick in a magazine.

    So yes info has been published before, even on the web, but it's the first time the movie is downloadable by the public.

    At the time I only watched the movie once or twice because you had to copy the preference folder to the hd to be able to make visible the movie file inside, and that took most of the remaining space on the 230megs HD.

    The original file would need to be "Flatten" to play on windows since it is an old Quicktime 2 file that was not saved in the cross-platform format. These kind of problem are long gone since Quicktime now save every file as cross-platform by default.

    Antoine
    -------------------
    Metroid Cubed ideator
    http://pages.infinit.net/voxel/

  117. Greg, is that you? by not_hylas(+) · · Score: 1

    "Not that I'm going to be able to prove this easily, but I came up with the invocation mechanism, and wrote the patch to the Drag Manager that enabled the "secret about box" mechanism. We had the breakout game ready to go, but nobody could come up with a good way to invoke it. We had a number of code reviews until everyone was satisified it wouldn't break anything. Fun times...

    That was my first significant addition to the OS. :-)"

    Greg, is that you?
    If you are Greg, please put your "spies" info on folklore with the "not a parade" stuff and tell us all the gory details of MacsBug.
    Tell us why "Math is Hard" - so funny.
    If you're not Greg, you are at least BLUE - spill the beans Buddy ;-)
    We need an easteregg section.
    Personally, I want to know about the emulation egg(?) that is so spooky in 7.5.5 (nuKernal - Quadra-Centris/68k).
    (I found it and it's weird)
    Star Trek?
    Bodies please.

    http://www.folklore.org/index.py

    --
    ~hylas
  118. Re:I have three older Apples... by symbolic · · Score: 1


    I was aware of a distro called PPC Linux, but those I was working with at the time were using Redhat. Not only that, but I didn't want to ditch all my software. I suppose I could have dual-booted, but it's not an option I'd considered at the time.

  119. Re:POS: format isn't recognized. by jo_ham · · Score: 1

    And you'd think all WMV files would play in Windows Media Player, since they are Windows Media files....

  120. Thanks for the pointer by Compact+Dick · · Score: 1

    I'll have a think about it.

  121. Great testament to the improvement in compression by benwaggoner · · Score: 1

    Wow,

    That file was from right around when I started doing compression, and it's an amazing testament to how much things have gotten better.

    Video is Apple Video, codenamed "Road Pizza" pre-Cinepak. No data rate control. 5-bit per channel RGB.

    Audio is uncompressed 8-bit. Pre IMA, and well pre MP3 for computer playback. Computers of that era weren't fast enough play back MP3 in real-time, let alone with video along with it!

    File totals 300 KBytes/Sec, or 2400 Kbps. One could easily provide better quality at 100 Kbps today. 24x improvement in a little over a decade - not Moore's Law, but not bad!

  122. Re:WTF?!? Did MSNBC just buy /.? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was Easter years ago too, an old video from the 1990's is not news.

  123. Other fun stuff on Apple CDs by EvilStein · · Score: 1

    Not really a secret either, but:

    * Cranberries video, on the Mac OS 7.6 CD
    * Barenaked Ladies video on the Mac OS 8.5 CD
    * Static X "Push It" video on the 9.x CD

    I don't remember if they changed between 8.0 -> 8.1 (likewise with 9.x) but the videos are usually found in the Quicktime folder as a way to showcase the Quicktime software.

  124. year old? by commodoresloat · · Score: 2

    This bit of news is from System *7.1*. Way more than a year ago....

    1. Re:year old? by Golias · · Score: 1

      No kidding. 7.1 has been a free download for more than five years now, and this "Easter Egg" has been known about at least as long.

      Slashdot
      Really Fucking Old News for Nerds. Stuff that didn't matter much even then.

      --

      Information wants to be anthropomorphized.

    2. Re:year old? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      7.0.1 has been a free download for some time now. 7.1 never was.

  125. Wow, submitter punished RTFA guys by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

    Download the Easter Egg:

    Torrent of original (53 meg in Quicktime) (torrent fixed, again, now zipped)

    Recompressed version (10.3 meg in Quicktime MPEG4)

    __

    In FA :)

    Mine version is near lossless with 3ivx+purevoice, 28.9 mb.

    This thing is plain fun to watch and also you can see what compression levels are up since that time.

  126. Easter Egg Plant(ed) movies by Eggheads? by newpath4comVersion2 · · Score: 1

    Not to be completely outdone, I launched a few eggs myself this past week: http://www.newpath4.com/formulaeperpetual_perpetua ltimeperpetualspaceperpetualpowerperpetualmomentum perpetualmotion_3plus4equals5.gif or http://tinyurl.com/4sjmu . Then I posted 2 more eggs: http://tinyurl.com/44h5p and http://tinyurl.com/4faag . Point of fact, I've been LAYING EGGS SO LONG I FEEL LIKE THE GHOST OF GIANT CHICKEN. All these links and more are on my website. Where we tackle any deals. hehehehehe

  127. Re:No, that's just good compression by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean 1/80th of a bit. Lower case is bit, upper case is byte. It's not that hard.

  128. Re:POS: format isn't recognized. by Jakeypants · · Score: 1

    Yeah, I second that.

    As a Mac user, I get incredibly frustrated after driving to Starbucks in my Volkswagen and being unable to show my friends from graphic design school the new Postal Service music video.

  129. Re:No, that's just good compression by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, 1/80th of a byte.
    91 millibits is less than 1/10th bit, thus less than 1/80th byte.
    The trick is to understand the math too, not just the difference in case.

  130. Re:Old XT DOS easter egg - NOT an easter egg.. by ohasten · · Score: 1

    This hard disk utility was in the HD controller ROM, with different values for different manufacturers following the colon. To call it and easter egg is a really big stretch.

    It gave you no more "instant drive space" than an unconditional format.

    --
    "You can tell the pioneers by the arrows in their backs"
  131. You need the latest Stuffit Expander on a mac by cocoa+moe · · Score: 1

    Yes it will play on macs, but not if you just add an extension to the decompressed file. The Metadata is somehow not where it should be. If however you decompress the file using Stuffit-Expander 9 you will get the correct resource-fork an you will have a pirate-flag-icon that yopu can simply double click.

  132. An Apple Egg? by hesiod · · Score: 1

    Apple Easter Egg? Which is it, an apple or an egg? Or did they crossbreed apples with fish to lay eggs?

    RTFA? Hell, I don't even read the /. summary!