It's good that you're trying to counter an argument when you obviously have not used Opera for more than a day or two. Rewind and Fast Forward are NOT the same thing as back and forward. Here's a link for you since you are unable to look it up for yourself before replying:
Bzzt! These are your assertions, its your job to prove them. Expecting other people to prove your points for you is not only lunacy, its supreme laziness. Care to try again, and this time close your html tags so your post is readable?
Firefox would be not where it is today without Opera.
How's that? It would seem that competition with IE would be the primaking motivation for both teams (and profit, in Opera's case).
Tabbed browsing is better, more natural.
What is that supposed to mean? What's unnatural about the way Firefox does it?
Rewind and fast forward
This is better than the "back" and "forward" that have been around for about a decade?
Simply faster
So it'll take me 4 seconds to load a graphics heavy page rather than 5 seconds. Yawn.
Sessions and reloading all my pages after a crash.
Or it could just not crash in the first place...
All you've got is a big list of worthless features (smooth image zoom) and unsubstantiated claims (better tabbed browsing). How about making a shortened list of differences that actually matter, and back them up with links or at least arguments.
Oh, he said "Two lawyers ran for president," Edwards wasn't "running" for anything. After posting, I realized he might have been referring to other parties or primaries, but couldn't think of who he would have meant.
Hrm? What do you mean he didn't run for anything? Edwards finished #2 in the primaries, losing to Kerry, but he beat Dean, Gephart and the general dude who's name I cant remember.
It did predict some sort of embedded identification system known as "The Number of the Beast"
blah blah blah. People have been saying that some new thing "is the sign of the Beast!" every couple years for the last 2000 years. RFID is merely the latest.
Oni is still a big sore spot with me...even more so than the XBoxification of Halo. They tore multiplayer out of Oni just before releasing it, with the lame excuse that people wouldn't be happy with internet play. Well whoop de frikkin do! Marathon, the subject of this story, had multiplayer years before most people had internet access! If Oni had been released with multiplayer and modding tools, it would have been one of the coolest games ever.
The source you quote is correct, but you're not. Just because 98% of the complaints came from one group DOES NOT mean that the majority wants to see Janet's breast. Your logic is flawed.
And your reasoning is bunk. Free speech is protecting UNPOPULAR speech, not POPULAR speech.
I think you are refering to my post here since I mentioned Dell.
As the PP said, no he wasn't, but one thing he didn't mention is that these arguments always comapre a Big Name OEM, in this case Apple, to what a hobbyist can build by ordering his own parts. Except, other Big Name OEM's like Dell and Gateway will also look bad compared to the parts you can order and assemble from Newegg and Mwave.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a perfect illustration on why Apple has less than 5% of the market.
If they have less than 5% of the market, why do you guys waste so much time hyperventilating over the fact that you salvaged your powersupply from a toaster oven?
Yes, but that's because no one bothers to write Mac OS worms.
No one bothers to write Mac worms because it nearly impossible to do so, not because of marketshare. Apple's code could possibly be as buggy as Microsoft's, but Apple doesn't leave ports open all over the place and doesn't have Microsoft's piss poor privledge seperation.
There have been plenty of remote root flaws in OS X.
Nonsense. There have been flaws in the open source services that come with OS X, but those are all turned off by default. It doesn't matter if there's an exploit for ssh or apache if you aren't running either service. And even if you are running a web server and get hacked, someone had to target your machine specifically, which is a far cry from having your unpatched Windows box get infected when you hook it up to the internet.
The same is the case with XP.
Hardly comparible. OS X has sudo-like authentication for its gui widgets...Windows doesn't. You either have to run as administrator, which is a security risk, or you authenticate to a seperate administrator account whenever you do something, which is a pain in the ass in addition to being a security risk.
Don't forget the student developer package for $99 USD, and you still get the same developer discount, but you can only get said student developer discount once in your lifetime.
And What They Want is a commodity OS (Linux/Windows)
Huh? Linux, sure, but Windows, a commodity? Since when? Its expensive to start with, then you have the expense of administering possibly the buggiest and least secure operating system you can buy.
Much of healthcare's expense is welfare for lawyers.
No, that would be welfare for the insurance industry.
My ex, a general surgeon in rural Montana who had never been the subject of a lawsuit, was paying seven figures for her yearly liability insurance.
From your other post, those aren't her personal costs for being a surgeon, those are the costs of running a business. If the entire liability for all the employees gets counted as your sister's personal liability, then its only fair that the wages of all the other employees are counted as only your sister's wages.
The American people let the legislators pull the wool over their eyes by allowing absurd jury awards, shuffling personal responsibility off to the nearest set of (presumably) deep-pocket targets, and otherwise fostering the stupidity du jour.
Nonsense. Trying to get *rid* of large damage awards is "pulling the wool over people's eyes". Instances of enormous negligence or incompetence require enormous consequences, or they'll just keep happening again. As if the doctor who amputated the wrong leg from a man, or the girl who died after a doctor transplanted an organ of the wrong blood type don't deserve to be sued for millions of dollars. Limited awards mean limited liability, and if liability is limited, doctors will be free to be sloppy and corners will be cut to save money.
States that have "tort reform" haven't lowered their medical costs, they've only allowed for sloppiness and pushed responsiblity back onto the consumer. Lawyers and lawsuites aren't the cause of high medical costs, they're a byproduct. Want to see insurance go down, tackle the insurance companies and take medical licences away from bad doctors.
Except Wal-Mart is completely against ever paying overtime, so you'll never work more than 40 hours a week.
Except that they also completely insist on getting all the work done. So sometimes managers have felt forced to make people work until the job is finished, and any work over 40 hours goes unpaid. They've been sued for it several times.
Wal-mart is the pinicle of a very successful business. You can't fault them for making money, it's what they are supposed to do.
I can fault them for doing it illegaly. I can fault them for driving manufacturers out of business by demanding 5% cost reductions every year. I can fault them for crushing any attempts to form a union.
Well, I would imagine more people are likely to replay a 45 minute CD on a whim, that restart a 10-20 hour game.
But of course you'd have to listen to that CD 26 times from start to finish just to equal your first time through the game.
I would also be willing to bet the vast majority of people who buy games don't finish half of them.
What do you base that on? And for that matter, how many people like every song on every CD?
There's a firm trend of developers putting all they've got into the first half of the game and leaving the last half lacking.
Pfft. Not nearly as many as the number of bands that put one or two good songs on an album, and the rest is crap filler.
Well, this is a point of opinion so there's not much point arguing it. The games that provide this sort of experience are a minority, however, and there are many many more great movies or CDs out there.
Ha! I got you figured out now. You're engaging in an ICSTSTSIL falacy, or I'll-compare-stuff-that-sucks-to-stuff-I-like. Any time you compare good product from group A) to bad or average product B), which one is going to look better? You're just like the people who bitch about how movies suck today compared to a "golden age" fifty to sixty years ago, except they forget the Ed Wood's of their era. They are comparing Casablanca to Biodome, while ignoring modern movies like Fight Club and Schindler's List.
So in other words, you aren't going to get away with comparing the average game against the average GREAT movie or cd. For every crappy game there's a Troma movie or a Milli Vanilli cd.
Well, I don't know where you live, but here in Australia games are often priced 4-5 times the price of a CD or DVD.
Well duh, because the game will most likely last longer than 4-5 times the length of a movie.
That's what I call over-priced, especially when chances are the game will not be good enough to make me want to finish it anyway. I don't have a lot of time to play games, and I'm not going to force myself to play shitty games.
Well I don't know about you guys in Australia, but here in the United States we have these stores where you can rent console games. You don't even have to buy them to play through the entire game! And for computer games, most will have a demo that you can download...for free!
Any woman that's not too shallow to be worth your time is going to be very open minded about looks. Looks can be faked, personality can't be.
Obviously. My beef is that people will whine and carry on about men objectifying women, but equal female objectifying of men isn't worthy of mention. Just like how you'll hear women bitch about how big boobed women are in comics, ignoring the fact that even the men in comics who are supposed to be the origional 98 lbs weaklings, like Bruce Banner and pre-spider bite Peter Parker, are ripped.
Right, like male models are all 100 lbs overweight and have acne. Women are such hypocrites on this - they bitch and moan at men for being atracted to thin, busty women, but would pass over your Average Overweight Joe for Brad Pitt in fight club in a nanosecond. Women, just as men, are very movitated by looks - its just that men aren't completely two-faced about it.
That "whats good for your small community is good for everyone", like I quoted. Duh.
Say something stupid like presuming to know what is good for the world based on one's own little block
He didn't say anything remotely like that. He said A) that Wal-Mart was evil and that B) it sucked "in small community", he never said that A was proved by B. You don't even know if he was talking about his hometown, though part of that was due to some broken English. Try cutting back to 4 pots of coffee and three packs of ciggarretts a day, and try to comprehend what you are reading.
I guess I had no choice
Right, you were on the internet, so you had no choice but to flame away.
The last time I wrote about this it was marked down as Troll
Or maybe you are just as much of a dick in your other posts as in this one, in which case a troll mod was completely inappropirate. Flaimbait is much more applicable.
The license agreement dictates what rights the copyright owner grants the user.
Rights? EULA's try to take away rights, not bestow them on you. Once you have bought a copy of a piece of software, unless you've signed an agreement before purchase, only standard copyright applies. So you can burn the disk or sell it on ebay for a billion dollars, you just can't make and distribute copies without permission.
Slashdot Mirror
Derrr, oh yeah.
:) Why is he called Redface?
Hey, you were right about Clark.
It's good that you're trying to counter an argument when you obviously have not used Opera for more than a day or two. Rewind and Fast Forward are NOT the same thing as back and forward. Here's a link for you since you are unable to look it up for yourself before replying:
Bzzt! These are your assertions, its your job to prove them. Expecting other people to prove your points for you is not only lunacy, its supreme laziness. Care to try again, and this time close your html tags so your post is readable?
Firefox would be not where it is today without Opera.
How's that? It would seem that competition with IE would be the primaking motivation for both teams (and profit, in Opera's case).
Tabbed browsing is better, more natural.
What is that supposed to mean? What's unnatural about the way Firefox does it?
Rewind and fast forward
This is better than the "back" and "forward" that have been around for about a decade?
Simply faster
So it'll take me 4 seconds to load a graphics heavy page rather than 5 seconds. Yawn.
Sessions and reloading all my pages after a crash.
Or it could just not crash in the first place...
All you've got is a big list of worthless features (smooth image zoom) and unsubstantiated claims (better tabbed browsing). How about making a shortened list of differences that actually matter, and back them up with links or at least arguments.
Oh, he said "Two lawyers ran for president," Edwards wasn't "running" for anything. After posting, I realized he might have been referring to other parties or primaries, but couldn't think of who he would have meant.
Hrm? What do you mean he didn't run for anything? Edwards finished #2 in the primaries, losing to Kerry, but he beat Dean, Gephart and the general dude who's name I cant remember.
It did predict some sort of embedded identification system known as "The Number of the Beast"
blah blah blah. People have been saying that some new thing "is the sign of the Beast!" every couple years for the last 2000 years. RFID is merely the latest.
Yawn.
Oni is still a big sore spot with me...even more so than the XBoxification of Halo. They tore multiplayer out of Oni just before releasing it, with the lame excuse that people wouldn't be happy with internet play. Well whoop de frikkin do! Marathon, the subject of this story, had multiplayer years before most people had internet access! If Oni had been released with multiplayer and modding tools, it would have been one of the coolest games ever.
fukkin Microsoft
Apple-H
*cough* Command-H *cough*
Silly Apple II users....
The source you quote is correct, but you're not. Just because 98% of the complaints came from one group DOES NOT mean that the majority wants to see Janet's breast. Your logic is flawed.
And your reasoning is bunk. Free speech is protecting UNPOPULAR speech, not POPULAR speech.
I think you are refering to my post here since I mentioned Dell.
As the PP said, no he wasn't, but one thing he didn't mention is that these arguments always comapre a Big Name OEM, in this case Apple, to what a hobbyist can build by ordering his own parts. Except, other Big Name OEM's like Dell and Gateway will also look bad compared to the parts you can order and assemble from Newegg and Mwave.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a perfect illustration on why Apple has less than 5% of the market.
If they have less than 5% of the market, why do you guys waste so much time hyperventilating over the fact that you salvaged your powersupply from a toaster oven?
Yes, but that's because no one bothers to write Mac OS worms.
No one bothers to write Mac worms because it nearly impossible to do so, not because of marketshare. Apple's code could possibly be as buggy as Microsoft's, but Apple doesn't leave ports open all over the place and doesn't have Microsoft's piss poor privledge seperation.
There have been plenty of remote root flaws in OS X.
Nonsense. There have been flaws in the open source services that come with OS X, but those are all turned off by default. It doesn't matter if there's an exploit for ssh or apache if you aren't running either service. And even if you are running a web server and get hacked, someone had to target your machine specifically, which is a far cry from having your unpatched Windows box get infected when you hook it up to the internet.
The same is the case with XP.
Hardly comparible. OS X has sudo-like authentication for its gui widgets...Windows doesn't. You either have to run as administrator, which is a security risk, or you authenticate to a seperate administrator account whenever you do something, which is a pain in the ass in addition to being a security risk.
Don't forget the student developer package for $99 USD, and you still get the same developer discount, but you can only get said student developer discount once in your lifetime.
And What They Want is a commodity OS (Linux/Windows)
Huh? Linux, sure, but Windows, a commodity? Since when? Its expensive to start with, then you have the expense of administering possibly the buggiest and least secure operating system you can buy.
Much of healthcare's expense is welfare for lawyers.
No, that would be welfare for the insurance industry.
My ex, a general surgeon in rural Montana who had never been the subject of a lawsuit, was paying seven figures for her yearly liability insurance.
From your other post, those aren't her personal costs for being a surgeon, those are the costs of running a business. If the entire liability for all the employees gets counted as your sister's personal liability, then its only fair that the wages of all the other employees are counted as only your sister's wages.
The American people let the legislators pull the wool over their eyes by allowing absurd jury awards, shuffling personal responsibility off to the nearest set of (presumably) deep-pocket targets, and otherwise fostering the stupidity du jour.
Nonsense. Trying to get *rid* of large damage awards is "pulling the wool over people's eyes". Instances of enormous negligence or incompetence require enormous consequences, or they'll just keep happening again. As if the doctor who amputated the wrong leg from a man, or the girl who died after a doctor transplanted an organ of the wrong blood type don't deserve to be sued for millions of dollars. Limited awards mean limited liability, and if liability is limited, doctors will be free to be sloppy and corners will be cut to save money.
States that have "tort reform" haven't lowered their medical costs, they've only allowed for sloppiness and pushed responsiblity back onto the consumer. Lawyers and lawsuites aren't the cause of high medical costs, they're a byproduct. Want to see insurance go down, tackle the insurance companies and take medical licences away from bad doctors.
I think he's talking about Edwards and Kerry.
Except Wal-Mart is completely against ever paying overtime, so you'll never work more than 40 hours a week.
Except that they also completely insist on getting all the work done. So sometimes managers have felt forced to make people work until the job is finished, and any work over 40 hours goes unpaid. They've been sued for it several times.
Wal-mart is the pinicle of a very successful business. You can't fault them for making money, it's what they are supposed to do.
I can fault them for doing it illegaly. I can fault them for driving manufacturers out of business by demanding 5% cost reductions every year. I can fault them for crushing any attempts to form a union.
Well, I would imagine more people are likely to replay a 45 minute CD on a whim, that restart a 10-20 hour game.
But of course you'd have to listen to that CD 26 times from start to finish just to equal your first time through the game.
I would also be willing to bet the vast majority of people who buy games don't finish half of them.
What do you base that on? And for that matter, how many people like every song on every CD?
There's a firm trend of developers putting all they've got into the first half of the game and leaving the last half lacking.
Pfft. Not nearly as many as the number of bands that put one or two good songs on an album, and the rest is crap filler.
Well, this is a point of opinion so there's not much point arguing it. The games that provide this sort of experience are a minority, however, and there are many many more great movies or CDs out there.
Ha! I got you figured out now. You're engaging in an ICSTSTSIL falacy, or I'll-compare-stuff-that-sucks-to-stuff-I-like. Any time you compare good product from group A) to bad or average product B), which one is going to look better? You're just like the people who bitch about how movies suck today compared to a "golden age" fifty to sixty years ago, except they forget the Ed Wood's of their era. They are comparing Casablanca to Biodome, while ignoring modern movies like Fight Club and Schindler's List.
So in other words, you aren't going to get away with comparing the average game against the average GREAT movie or cd. For every crappy game there's a Troma movie or a Milli Vanilli cd.
Well, I don't know where you live, but here in Australia games are often priced 4-5 times the price of a CD or DVD.
Well duh, because the game will most likely last longer than 4-5 times the length of a movie.
That's what I call over-priced, especially when chances are the game will not be good enough to make me want to finish it anyway. I don't have a lot of time to play games, and I'm not going to force myself to play shitty games.
Well I don't know about you guys in Australia, but here in the United States we have these stores where you can rent console games. You don't even have to buy them to play through the entire game! And for computer games, most will have a demo that you can download...for free!
Sorry, is this sarcasm?
Absolutely not!
Any woman that's not too shallow to be worth your time is going to be very open minded about looks. Looks can be faked, personality can't be.
Obviously. My beef is that people will whine and carry on about men objectifying women, but equal female objectifying of men isn't worthy of mention. Just like how you'll hear women bitch about how big boobed women are in comics, ignoring the fact that even the men in comics who are supposed to be the origional 98 lbs weaklings, like Bruce Banner and pre-spider bite Peter Parker, are ripped.
Who listens to a music CD once?
He's talking about the amount of time for a single use. Nothing keeps you from playing a game only once, either.
A game, however, I'll be lucky to get all the way through before I get bored
Drink some coffee.
and the quality of entertainment just isn't of the same calibre as a good movie or CD.
Yeah...games can be way better. A good game is far more immersive, and far longer, than any movie or CD.
Games are way too overpriced.
Not anymore than albums are underpriced, because some hippie from the 60's has listened to The Wall six thousand times.
I don't disagree that made from scratch is better than junk food, however, all the cheapest ingredients are loaded with carbs: flour, potatoes, rice.
However, what disgusted me so much was the idea that all women should try for the Victoria's Secret ideal.
Just as many women expect men to look like Brad Pitt. Why is that not every bit as sexist?
Right, like male models are all 100 lbs overweight and have acne. Women are such hypocrites on this - they bitch and moan at men for being atracted to thin, busty women, but would pass over your Average Overweight Joe for Brad Pitt in fight club in a nanosecond. Women, just as men, are very movitated by looks - its just that men aren't completely two-faced about it.
I think he's speaking relatively...being able to stay underwater for twenty or more years at a time would functionally count as "indefinetly" for me.
Would what?
That "whats good for your small community is good for everyone", like I quoted. Duh.
Say something stupid like presuming to know what is good for the world based on one's own little block
He didn't say anything remotely like that. He said A) that Wal-Mart was evil and that B) it sucked "in small community", he never said that A was proved by B. You don't even know if he was talking about his hometown, though part of that was due to some broken English. Try cutting back to 4 pots of coffee and three packs of ciggarretts a day, and try to comprehend what you are reading.
I guess I had no choice
Right, you were on the internet, so you had no choice but to flame away.
The last time I wrote about this it was marked down as Troll
Or maybe you are just as much of a dick in your other posts as in this one, in which case a troll mod was completely inappropirate. Flaimbait is much more applicable.
The license agreement dictates what rights the copyright owner grants the user.
Rights? EULA's try to take away rights, not bestow them on you. Once you have bought a copy of a piece of software, unless you've signed an agreement before purchase, only standard copyright applies. So you can burn the disk or sell it on ebay for a billion dollars, you just can't make and distribute copies without permission.