Prior to this thing with microsoft there happened to be an open source IM client by AOL. Now you can still download it from other peoples sites but the AOL site and development has been put on hold. Just when you think the IM wars was over and the page might return, BAM this happens. The client is written in tcl/tk and can run on any platform that can run the scripts. The protocol was totally published, and if you look at the files in the distrobution it still tells you about all the functions. Annoying thing about this is whenever AOL changes something the tik servers just happen to loose all of our buddy lists. But, since the developers of tik let you save your buddy list locally and/or on their servers some of us have backup. Another thing, tik does not have adds (and happened to have features that AIM2 didnt even have.) I just wish it was back on the burner for AOL because without the page there and their push for development of the package, not much has happened.
90% of what is on mp3.com is crap anyway (my stuff probably falls into that, but hey, it's for fun). Lots of it is just dance mixes and synth tunes that some kid programmed into a shareware MIDI sequencer. You really have to search for the gems, the actual bands that put together some good songs.
I totally disagree with you. I think its when people have the taste of your average top 40 or commercial radio listener that they dont find anything. I myself do not listen to mainstream music and mostly buy stuff that is on indie record labels. Mp3.com is so great for me because I can put in an artist I know I like, and it comes up with similar artists. That feature alone makes it so much easier to find the good music. In the indie world, you would not list an artist as being similar unless you know their work and you just get more credible results this way. Genres like electronica are usually flooded by a great deal of this garbage which you probably found. If instead you liked a particular genre which wasnt so broad and had some other artists in mind you would get better results. I know when I put in something like Sebadoh, I am going to get similar artists and most of the tracks I hear I like... and I dont even have to download to listen it just streams in. Also, if something is good enough there is a change I might purchase the CD. I like having CD's. I don't want to mess with files and downloading and piecing together an album. I like having the lyrics, song credits, artwork all in front of me and it makes me feel good to know that the artist is getting a couple bucks from it so they can continue to make more records.
Music = Art/Entertainment Medical Practice = Science
You dont need a license to be an artist.
I think real artists wouldnt care who downloaded their music as long as they get heard. The ones who want to do it for a living would probably want to get signed to a major label, and thus exposure is good for them.
Yeah, but I want to see what Mandrake Linux does next, they havent yet put in their gui install program or hardware configuration program, and both look very promising. Also, mandrake tends to have the most recent software usually. They are more willing to put in a pre-release such as the frozen development version of KDE2 than redhat.
Well, the communist manifesto was never fully adopted. It worked in theory, but there is always some power hungry dictator and we still end up calling that communism. Marxism would be nice, but I don't see it happen with so much alienation especially do to technology. Nowadays its all about the have and the havenots some way or another.
Somtimes I think the unibomber was right... Well, accept for all that blowing up people part. This professor I had as a freshman had a paper he wrote on the the unibombers manifesto, though it related more to environmental issues. You could see the current wave of technology similar to the industrial revolution. Instead of threats to physical world, now we are affecting the social world. There will always be nay sayers and monkey wrenchers, but maybe this time we could look at consequence _before_ it happens.
Even Linuxworld conference wont let anyone under 12 in (and no strollers too they say). Hmmm... Could they have known that a representative of Microsoft this young might show up to do a little "research" on the linux community?
It still kind of surprised me when I heard about the WTO and china being a part when so many people have talked about trying to help tibet... almost like its not an issue anymore.
Doesn't this summit involve trying to keep trade with China? When I heard this was going to happen a week or so ago I thought that something might go down and a lot of people would be angry. There are many who support Tibet and want China to leave them alone. One of the efforts was to boycott products from China in order to show disdain for their policy in regards to Tibet. If that is what the riot is about, then it is sad to see it has turned to violence. There werent too many details I could see, so we will have to find out what really happened.
A few years ago I used to frequent the BBS just before they started to dissapear for good. The large BBS turned into ISPs years ago, some of the small ones just shut down or the sysop moved somewhere else. But anyway, these telnet BBS may have some of the same door games but the things that made the BBS so fun are missing. The major appeal was that everyone who would be calling would usually be from your area unless they are calling long distance. You might never know the people in person but they lived in your area so it had a community feel. A friend might turn you onto his BBS, and there was just something neet about knowing your sysop personally. File bases were uncluttered and message bases might be local or in a net from around the country. All of this without commercialism, and usually it was free. You just can't bring back the same feeling of the old BBS.
Looks like O'Reilly is really expanding their coverage of the geek spectrum. First the user friendly comic book (which I even saw in the leisure reading section of my school's bookstore) and now this.
I guess it's a bit unfair to the Jewish, but they get an 8 day Chanakuh celebration, so don't begrudge us Gentiles are 1 day of fun, eh?
I think you missed my point. I wasnt putting down anyone religion, just saying that this kind of topic could be adjusted to fit in all holidays around this time where people are getting gifts. I wasn't saying you couldnt have your fun, just to include other people too and not be so christian centered. The old pagan traditions have nothing to do with my arguement. Maybe I shouldnt have said anything and stayed in my own little jewish world if nobody would listen. (that was a little sarcasm not flame instigation) Here, maybe if I put it this way you would understand how I feel sometimes: I know a lot of you are linux users, and the public always bombards you with the microsoft way of things, marketing and hardware constantly being directed to Windows users. How does that make you feel? To know you are a linux user but they dont recognise you enough just to make some drivers for their hardware. It is the same kind of thing, I tolerate it but it still bothers me sometime when messages in a place like slashdot are directed at christmas.
I know I run the risk of down moderation or flame, but I would just like to say this one thing. Why keep this topic limited to "Christmas" and not have it as "Holidays". I know some may thing I am being picky about this, or overly PC perhaps, but I happen to be raised jewish and am myself agnostic. If I were to practice religion I would be jewish. Either way, when I see things like this even though I try not to be too critical I am still somewhat bothered by something which is so christian based in a place where there is no need to be. I don't mean this to start a flame war over religion, just to say that you could be more ambigious in order to fit in people from other cultures.
My stepmom is a graphic designer for a living and she has gone through the surgery for the injuries, and wears the wrist things sometimes... But still I think that just adjusting the hieght on a chair and knowing how to sit and set up your own equipment does a lot more good than buying ergonomic equipment. Maybe if more employers spent the time to teach (assuming they have learned themselves already) the proper way to sit and things like exercises you can do every so often to prevent things like RSI. These things do happen, but it isnt always because the person is overweight or lazy, that is a prejudice you should deal with.
This is another thing that Linus mentioned during his keynote speach at comdex, the fact that countries not as well off as us are adopting open source. Using open source enables a lot more freedom and less dependance on corperate software. Spreading this kind of technology to people who in the past couldnt afford it helps them to catch up. Another reason why free software is so adoptable to foreign countries is (as Linus mentioned) that there is more support for things like internationalization and seeing as the code is open, anyone can modify it to fit the users needs.
This is just the kind of thing Linus was talking about during his keynote, the ability of Linux to scale not only to small systems but also large ones. Quite impressive having such an adaptable OS. Emulating it, not quite shure if that is as impressive. Wouldn't it take away from the power of a direct port?I wonder what uses this could bring if it has been ported... hmmm
Recently a fairly young Windows user that I know wanted to install Linux on his 486 that he had laying around. I am quite happy to help new users if they need anything, but this kid could not understand that if you just read the documentation that comes with the distrobution, 9 times out of 10 you will be able to find what you need to accomplish your specific goal. I was bombarded with questions about how to configure this or that and even before that questions about the install procedure (even after telling him several times what it is like and to just go ahead with it). My point is some people, no matter how clearly spelled out something might be, cannot handle not having the computer do the work for you. I see it sort of like cars, the OS is the engine and the car is the PC. If the engine is already installed and the user learns to drive the car, everything is fine. Having a novice install a new engine however is a different case. Same thing with Linux or windows: a user who learns to use a computer which already has linux installed would do fine eventually. Perhaps what should happen is there should be a distiction between a box with power in it, where knowledge is required to run it and basically an idiot box which does not require knowledge and things like OS or command lines etc are not a concern.
If this makes any sense, I am glad... its 4 AM and I can't sleep so take that in mind.
I usually create passwords that I can easily remember, but a cracking program would not guess. I do this by combining letters with numbers, where the numbers are relevent. Something like 411info, or info411 would be easy to remember, but a cracking program usually goes for a dictionary of words and sometimes attaches numbers like 123 or similar.
All of those mods were done by editing the map file and the data files that contained the images. I remember having a dos editor to import images into the map file. Maybe if you find a still running BBS they would have it laying around. Thats where you used to find tons of stuff like that in the good ol BBS days.
I would like to see a port of the 2D version, and also the original Duke Nukem 2D games, which I loved. Heck, I would like to see all of the old apogee games on Linux. Open the source!
I don't really think all the parts would be bought off of places on pricewatch. Microsloth would be buying everything in such large quantities and things would be custom. They will end up paying less than the places you found that sell those items pay for them.
Hmm, I better jump on it and get a domain of my own country on another planet. Moon domains... What would they be called? Slashdot.moo sounds interesting. Heck, if all those people can grab.to and.cc domains, why cant i have.mrs for mars domains? Just have to put a server out there first perhaps.
Slashdot Mirror
Prior to this thing with microsoft there happened to be an open source IM client by AOL. Now you can still download it from other peoples sites but the AOL site and development has been put on hold. Just when you think the IM wars was over and the page might return, BAM this happens. The client is written in tcl/tk and can run on any platform that can run the scripts. The protocol was totally published, and if you look at the files in the distrobution it still tells you about all the functions. Annoying thing about this is whenever AOL changes something the tik servers just happen to loose all of our buddy lists. But, since the developers of tik let you save your buddy list locally and/or on their servers some of us have backup. Another thing, tik does not have adds (and happened to have features that AIM2 didnt even have.) I just wish it was back on the burner for AOL because without the page there and their push for development of the package, not much has happened.
_joshua_
90% of what is on mp3.com is crap anyway (my stuff probably falls into that, but hey, it's for fun). Lots of it is just dance mixes and synth tunes that some kid programmed into a shareware MIDI sequencer. You really have to search for the gems,
the actual bands that put together some good songs.
I totally disagree with you. I think its when people have the taste of your average top 40 or commercial radio listener that they dont find anything. I myself do not listen to mainstream music and mostly buy stuff that is on indie record labels. Mp3.com is so great for me because I can put in an artist I know I like, and it comes up with similar artists. That feature alone makes it so much easier to find the good music. In the indie world, you would not list an artist as being similar unless you know their work and you just get more credible results this way. Genres like electronica are usually flooded by a great deal of this garbage which you probably found. If instead you liked a particular genre which wasnt so broad and had some other artists in mind you would get better results. I know when I put in something like Sebadoh, I am going to get similar artists and most of the tracks I hear I like... and I dont even have to download to listen it just streams in. Also, if something is good enough there is a change I might purchase the CD. I like having CD's. I don't want to mess with files and downloading and piecing together an album. I like having the lyrics, song credits, artwork all in front of me and it makes me feel good to know that the artist is getting a couple bucks from it so they can continue to make more records.
_joshua_
Music = Art/Entertainment
Medical Practice = Science
You dont need a license to be an artist.
I think real artists wouldnt care who downloaded their music as long as they get heard. The ones who want to do it for a living would probably want to get signed to a major label, and thus exposure is good for them.
_joshua_
Yeah, but I want to see what Mandrake Linux does next, they havent yet put in their gui install program or hardware configuration program, and both look very promising. Also, mandrake tends to have the most recent software usually. They are more willing to put in a pre-release such as the frozen development version of KDE2 than redhat.
_joshua_
By the time this comes out the new kernel 2.4 should be out right?
:)
Lets say that is out, Xfree 4 is out, KDE 2 is on the horizon, Englightenment has been updated, Xfce and others...
So around then, possibly earlier for distros like mandrake that use pre-release software, we will see new distrobutions of your favorites.
Man, it can be hard to keep up with such a fast paced OS.
_joshua_
Well, the communist manifesto was never fully adopted. It worked in theory, but there is always some power hungry dictator and we still end up calling that communism. Marxism would be nice, but I don't see it happen with so much alienation especially do to technology. Nowadays its all about the have and the havenots some way or another.
_joshua_
Somtimes I think the unibomber was right... Well, accept for all that blowing up people part. This professor I had as a freshman had a paper he wrote on the the unibombers manifesto, though it related more to environmental issues. You could see the current wave of technology similar to the industrial revolution. Instead of threats to physical world, now we are affecting the social world. There will always be nay sayers and monkey wrenchers, but maybe this time we could look at consequence _before_ it happens.
_joshua_
Even Linuxworld conference wont let anyone under 12 in (and no strollers too they say). Hmmm... Could they have known that a representative of Microsoft this young might show up to do a little "research" on the linux community?
_joshua_
It still kind of surprised me when I heard about the WTO and china being a part when so many people have talked about trying to help tibet... almost like its not an issue anymore.
_joshua_
Doesn't this summit involve trying to keep trade with China? When I heard this was going to happen a week or so ago I thought that something might go down and a lot of people would be angry. There are many who support Tibet and want China to leave them alone. One of the efforts was to boycott products from China in order to show disdain for their policy in regards to Tibet. If that is what the riot is about, then it is sad to see it has turned to violence. There werent too many details I could see, so we will have to find out what really happened.
_joshua_
A few years ago I used to frequent the BBS just before they started to dissapear for good. The large BBS turned into ISPs years ago, some of the small ones just shut down or the sysop moved somewhere else.
But anyway, these telnet BBS may have some of the same door games but the things that made the BBS so fun are missing. The major appeal was that everyone who would be calling would usually be from your area unless they are calling long distance. You might never know the people in person but they lived in your area so it had a community feel. A friend might turn you onto his BBS, and there was just something neet about knowing your sysop personally. File bases were uncluttered and message bases might be local or in a net from around the country. All of this without commercialism, and usually it was free. You just can't bring back the same feeling of the old BBS.
_joshua_
Looks like O'Reilly is really expanding their coverage of the geek spectrum. First the user friendly comic book (which I even saw in the leisure reading section of my school's bookstore) and now this.
_joshua_
I guess it's a bit unfair to the Jewish, but they get an 8 day Chanakuh celebration, so don't begrudge us Gentiles are 1 day of fun, eh?
I think you missed my point. I wasnt putting down anyone religion, just saying that this kind of topic could be adjusted to fit in all holidays around this time where people are getting gifts. I wasn't saying you couldnt have your fun, just to include other people too and not be so christian centered. The old pagan traditions have nothing to do with my arguement. Maybe I shouldnt have said anything and stayed in my own little jewish world if nobody would listen. (that was a little sarcasm not flame instigation)
Here, maybe if I put it this way you would understand how I feel sometimes:
I know a lot of you are linux users, and the public always bombards you with the microsoft way of things, marketing and hardware constantly being directed to Windows users. How does that make you feel? To know you are a linux user but they dont recognise you enough just to make some drivers for their hardware. It is the same kind of thing, I tolerate it but it still bothers me sometime when messages in a place like slashdot are directed at christmas.
_joshua_
I know I run the risk of down moderation or flame, but I would just like to say this one thing. Why keep this topic limited to "Christmas" and not have it as "Holidays". I know some may thing I am being picky about this, or overly PC perhaps, but I happen to be raised jewish and am myself agnostic. If I were to practice religion I would be jewish. Either way, when I see things like this even though I try not to be too critical I am still somewhat bothered by something which is so christian based in a place where there is no need to be. I don't mean this to start a flame war over religion, just to say that you could be more ambigious in order to fit in people from other cultures.
_joshua_
My stepmom is a graphic designer for a living and she has gone through the surgery for the injuries, and wears the wrist things sometimes... But still I think that just adjusting the hieght on a chair and knowing how to sit and set up your own equipment does a lot more good than buying ergonomic equipment. Maybe if more employers spent the time to teach (assuming they have learned themselves already) the proper way to sit and things like exercises you can do every so often to prevent things like RSI. These things do happen, but it isnt always because the person is overweight or lazy, that is a prejudice you should deal with.
_joshua_
"Yes!! First letter to the editor! I rule!"
_joshua_
This is another thing that Linus mentioned during his keynote speach at comdex, the fact that countries not as well off as us are adopting open source. Using open source enables a lot more freedom and less dependance on corperate software. Spreading this kind of technology to people who in the past couldnt afford it helps them to catch up. Another reason why free software is so adoptable to foreign countries is (as Linus mentioned) that there is more support for things like internationalization and seeing as the code is open, anyone can modify it to fit the users needs.
_joshua_
This is just the kind of thing Linus was talking about during his keynote, the ability of Linux to scale not only to small systems but also large ones. Quite impressive having such an adaptable OS. Emulating it, not quite shure if that is as impressive. Wouldn't it take away from the power of a direct port?I wonder what uses this could bring if it has been ported... hmmm
_joshua_
Recently a fairly young Windows user that I know wanted to install Linux on his 486 that he had laying around. I am quite happy to help new users if they need anything, but this kid could not understand that if you just read the documentation that comes with the distrobution, 9 times out of 10 you will be able to find what you need to accomplish your specific goal. I was bombarded with questions about how to configure this or that and even before that questions about the install procedure (even after telling him several times what it is like and to just go ahead with it). My point is some people, no matter how clearly spelled out something might be, cannot handle not having the computer do the work for you. I see it sort of like cars, the OS is the engine and the car is the PC. If the engine is already installed and the user learns to drive the car, everything is fine. Having a novice install a new engine however is a different case. Same thing with Linux or windows: a user who learns to use a computer which already has linux installed would do fine eventually. Perhaps what should happen is there should be a distiction between a box with power in it, where knowledge is required to run it and basically an idiot box which does not require knowledge and things like OS or command lines etc are not a concern.
If this makes any sense, I am glad... its 4 AM and I can't sleep so take that in mind.
_joshua_
I usually create passwords that I can easily remember, but a cracking program would not guess. I do this by combining letters with numbers, where the numbers are relevent. Something like 411info, or info411 would be easy to remember, but a cracking program usually goes for a dictionary of words and sometimes attaches numbers like 123 or similar.
_joshua_
All of those mods were done by editing the map file and the data files that contained the images. I remember having a dos editor to import images into the map file. Maybe if you find a still running BBS they would have it laying around. Thats where you used to find tons of stuff like that in the good ol BBS days.
_joshua_
I would like to see a port of the 2D version, and also the original Duke Nukem 2D games, which I loved. Heck, I would like to see all of the old apogee games on Linux. Open the source!
_joshua_
I don't really think all the parts would be bought off of places on pricewatch. Microsloth would be buying everything in such large quantities and things would be custom. They will end up paying less than the places you found that sell those items pay for them.
Then what exactly does this game bring to the table
Lots and lots of dead Nazis
Hmm, I better jump on it and get a domain of my own country on another planet. Moon domains... What would they be called? Slashdot.moo sounds interesting. Heck, if all those people can grab .to and .cc domains, why cant i have .mrs for mars domains? Just have to put a server out there first perhaps.