I wasn't aware KDE programs did that, though it makes sense for KSnapshot. Seems like it will make it tough for the KDE windows porting effort... though I'd guess programs that use xlib directly would be the exception. The handful that I've read through don't.
...could someone point me where it says the NX server is somehow compiling KDE and X together. Thats what my message was all about in the first place, cause I don't think its really the case at all. The NX server doesn't have anything to do with KDE, other then its a possible DE that it can display (and sound server stuff, but thats neither here nor there).
You (and perhaps the moderators) don't understand the difference between a troll and BS. I didn't really think SlashdotTroll was trying to elicit some heated response, the message just didn't make much sense and it seemed to have factual errors, though it was kind of hard to tell.
I still don't understand what your saying. "NX server tries to keep X11 and KDE tightly bonded because KDE has no rendering path through anything but a X Server and Microsoft GDI. I need not say more." is a sentence that does not make sense (the presiding paragraph does, but doesn' seem relavent). Exactly what is your source that NX tries to keep X11 and KDE tightly bonded. And what does that mean regardless, I have an image of the KDE dragon in bondage gear. My point was NX may use KDE GUI for its client, and the FreeNX may be created by KDE developers... but the NX server doesn't have much to do with KDE.
I'm pretty sure the parent is BS or I just can't read what its saying. NX takes the X protocol and uses various caching and compression methods to make it more efficient. Unlike VNC which essentially takes a picture of you desktop and sends that, so its easy to see why NX works so much better. It is desktop environment anogistic more or less The client and whatnot I think are written using KDE widgets for the config menu, it uses artsd for sound. The folks developing the Free version are KDE people, thus its under the KDE category. But the server certainly doesn't know anything about KDE or Gnome or whatever, it just deals with X.
X when using xeyes, xconsole and twwm might be a quick bandwidth-efficient drawing canvas... but it isn't with any modern program, thus the need for something like NoMachine.
Why do you want to mix KDE and Xlib? Folks developing KDE don't even use Xlib, they leave that up to Trolltech. The only program I can think of thats still developed (sure there are others) and uses Xlib is the mplayer GUI, and I think everyone accepts its a POS, it mixes xlib and GTK last I heard. I just use mplayer from the console, sometimes with one of its KDE frontends.
As the 'under the threshold' replies have noted, you can't get less socialist then a poll tax. In socialism (both of the USSR idealist kind and the Swedish variety) the idea is the government should be a tool to correct social inequities. Obviously making a millionare pay the same tax as a burger-flipper isn't socialist. When I came to Europe last summer I was surprised by how high VAT is, since I had associated Europe with being more progressive.
Like in Finland your speeding tickets are determined in part by your income. Thats the socialist way of doing things. And it really only makes more sense the more you think about it.
P.S. I wasn't saying the BBC tax was a poll tax, just very similar to one since its a flat fee. And I took government class, so I know about the British poll tax in the 80s. Give us Americans some credit.:)
I could see it being annoying just because its sort has a poll tax feel to it that annoys my socialist sensebilities. Income tax is much more fair. That said, I'm American and I certainly approve of the British providing me with free radio streams.:) But I would certainly be willing to pay for it. I dunno if we in the USA could pull something off like BBC though. I think it says enough that we have seperate out local media providers (NPR, PBS) from our foreign propaganda outlet (VOA).
I felt sorry for the French official they were interviewing about France's policy regarding Sudan, and how France (and pretty much everyone else) were letting the diplomatic process go through its motions while people are being killed. I love it when they confront an official with a recording of someone else's interview, like they did to this South African official regarding women who found themselves legally married to a man they don't know. Basically the women had been told by another official that it was up to her to get the 'divorce' (and put their actual marriage and whole life on hold in the mean time), but the South African official had already said it wasn't just a big deal to do away with the marriage.
Not sure if these were Today or another program... since I don't have TV this summer I've started listening to BBC World Service and then BBC 4 when Service goes into repeat. BBC 4 is great for American insomniacs, it has all its morning programming late at night.
Basically the US should steal the House of Commons debate style (watch Prime Minister Question on CSPAN, its great), the BBC, and curry, and let Britain keep the rest of their food and tabloid press. We would be in good shape.
Well, of course government != Government in the case of Britain (big G meaning the current administration). They are part of the government but there isn't much Government control.
It's still ironic that BBC has a antiauthoritarian streak to them. Authority is decidedly in their interest. If you ever watch Yes, Minister a BBC sitcom they have a episode where the minister is able to influence the BBC by some back slapping and veiled threats. I would be surprised if there was some truth to that happening. But I would agree about them being more independent then commercial outlets, some of whom don't even have journalistic independence as even a goal, let alone a reality.
I've been listening to some of their radio stations intended for the British public. On the music stations the little news segments they have seem to be giving the government-line in a less critical fashion, then say, the World Service. Which probably has more to do with their concise nature then anything.
The BBC often (and perhaps ironically) often takes an antiauthoritarian position. Their interviews are great since they're so much more combative then what you're used to from NPR and our media in general - they really try to get their guests to answer questions.
Seems like a none issue to me. Search for new york on Google, the New York Times is the first thing that comes back.
And another question... why are they not doing Google News searchs? Google made that feature for a reason.
I agree that there is the "deep web", databases like Lexus Nexus that require payment and a lot of useful information is locked up in it. Even if your school pays for it you can't just 'include' them in Google or wherever. That would be a great feature.
Um, I wouldn't want some of the early Tintin in school libraries, certainly not in primary school (I wouldn't see a problem with it in high school). Granted, none of my school libraries had Tintin in them (I'm sure they had Tom Sawyer in them though, seeing how I'm from Missouri). Even if your not really worried about the racism, it isn't exactly historically accurate IIRC. Suppose it does have some literary value, seeing how Tintin is famous.
In my opinion, culturally insenstivity is something like wearing shorts in a Cathedral. Your making much more a fool out of yourself then you are trying to make a fool out of someone else. Depicting the "natives" in a brutish manner is dehumanizing and racist.
I doubt folks being annoyed by racism is at all a recent phenomenom.
I get what your saying. But I was responding to the notion that folks take Tintin seriously. I think being culturally-sensitive to inter-war European racism only goes so far. If "Just about everything created by that culture was racist (as it was in most of the world)" then why not label early Tintin as racist? Historical context is important, but ultimately racism and Kristallnacht and whatnot is what it is.
I hope folks don't take Tintin seriously. At least early Tintin is hella racist.
I did read Tintin when I was like 10. Isn't that more or less Tintin's audience?
I was in France last year, went to a comic convention, and did see some interesting looking comics, maybe I wasn't looking the right place, they all seemed to be in color and rather expensive (though I don't know French so I wasn't really in the market). Manga is notable for being mass produced, black and white and cheap. I think this is the biggest difference from manga and other comics around the world.
Though when I was in Mexico I saw comics books that were about the same printing quality as manga. Looked like it was mostly Westerns (I guess not really Westerns if its in Mexico) for men.
We are doing something like this in the summer. All the dorms are going to be on their own segment. The new cisco routers should give us a lot of power. But its still my belief that the underlying assumption should be that a LAN that's any more public then your home network is hostile. Each computer needs to be able to defend itself ultimately.
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I wasn't aware KDE programs did that, though it makes sense for KSnapshot. Seems like it will make it tough for the KDE windows porting effort... though I'd guess programs that use xlib directly would be the exception. The handful that I've read through don't.
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The irony is driping.
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...could someone point me where it says the NX server is somehow compiling KDE and X together. Thats what my message was all about in the first place, cause I don't think its really the case at all. The NX server doesn't have anything to do with KDE, other then its a possible DE that it can display (and sound server stuff, but thats neither here nor there).
You (and perhaps the moderators) don't understand the difference between a troll and BS. I didn't really think SlashdotTroll was trying to elicit some heated response, the message just didn't make much sense and it seemed to have factual errors, though it was kind of hard to tell.
I still don't understand what your saying. "NX server tries to keep X11 and KDE tightly bonded because KDE has no rendering path through anything but a X Server and Microsoft GDI. I need not say more." is a sentence that does not make sense (the presiding paragraph does, but doesn' seem relavent). Exactly what is your source that NX tries to keep X11 and KDE tightly bonded. And what does that mean regardless, I have an image of the KDE dragon in bondage gear. My point was NX may use KDE GUI for its client, and the FreeNX may be created by KDE developers... but the NX server doesn't have much to do with KDE.
I'm pretty sure the parent is BS or I just can't read what its saying. NX takes the X protocol and uses various caching and compression methods to make it more efficient. Unlike VNC which essentially takes a picture of you desktop and sends that, so its easy to see why NX works so much better. It is desktop environment anogistic more or less The client and whatnot I think are written using KDE widgets for the config menu, it uses artsd for sound. The folks developing the Free version are KDE people, thus its under the KDE category. But the server certainly doesn't know anything about KDE or Gnome or whatever, it just deals with X.
X when using xeyes, xconsole and twwm might be a quick bandwidth-efficient drawing canvas... but it isn't with any modern program, thus the need for something like NoMachine.
Why do you want to mix KDE and Xlib? Folks developing KDE don't even use Xlib, they leave that up to Trolltech. The only program I can think of thats still developed (sure there are others) and uses Xlib is the mplayer GUI, and I think everyone accepts its a POS, it mixes xlib and GTK last I heard. I just use mplayer from the console, sometimes with one of its KDE frontends.
I've always agreed with this sentiment, but GMail is the easiest most convienent web client I've ever used.
Someone should write a program with an interface like GMail's for offline email. That would be nice.
Obviously calls for a Angels vs. Evangelions vs. Aliens vs. Predator rumble.
As the 'under the threshold' replies have noted, you can't get less socialist then a poll tax. In socialism (both of the USSR idealist kind and the Swedish variety) the idea is the government should be a tool to correct social inequities. Obviously making a millionare pay the same tax as a burger-flipper isn't socialist. When I came to Europe last summer I was surprised by how high VAT is, since I had associated Europe with being more progressive.
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Like in Finland your speeding tickets are determined in part by your income. Thats the socialist way of doing things. And it really only makes more sense the more you think about it.
P.S. I wasn't saying the BBC tax was a poll tax, just very similar to one since its a flat fee. And I took government class, so I know about the British poll tax in the 80s. Give us Americans some credit.
Wow. So millionaires should pay the same as those living from paycheck to paycheck?
I could see it being annoying just because its sort has a poll tax feel to it that annoys my socialist sensebilities. Income tax is much more fair. That said, I'm American and I certainly approve of the British providing me with free radio streams. :) But I would certainly be willing to pay for it. I dunno if we in the USA could pull something off like BBC though. I think it says enough that we have seperate out local media providers (NPR, PBS) from our foreign propaganda outlet (VOA).
I felt sorry for the French official they were interviewing about France's policy regarding Sudan, and how France (and pretty much everyone else) were letting the diplomatic process go through its motions while people are being killed. I love it when they confront an official with a recording of someone else's interview, like they did to this South African official regarding women who found themselves legally married to a man they don't know. Basically the women had been told by another official that it was up to her to get the 'divorce' (and put their actual marriage and whole life on hold in the mean time), but the South African official had already said it wasn't just a big deal to do away with the marriage.
Not sure if these were Today or another program... since I don't have TV this summer I've started listening to BBC World Service and then BBC 4 when Service goes into repeat. BBC 4 is great for American insomniacs, it has all its morning programming late at night.
Basically the US should steal the House of Commons debate style (watch Prime Minister Question on CSPAN, its great), the BBC, and curry, and let Britain keep the rest of their food and tabloid press. We would be in good shape.
And probably more so with IBM since I'm sure they still have NT and OS/2 developers.
Well, of course government != Government in the case of Britain (big G meaning the current administration). They are part of the government but there isn't much Government control.
It's still ironic that BBC has a antiauthoritarian streak to them. Authority is decidedly in their interest. If you ever watch Yes, Minister a BBC sitcom they have a episode where the minister is able to influence the BBC by some back slapping and veiled threats. I would be surprised if there was some truth to that happening. But I would agree about them being more independent then commercial outlets, some of whom don't even have journalistic independence as even a goal, let alone a reality.
I've been listening to some of their radio stations intended for the British public. On the music stations the little news segments they have seem to be giving the government-line in a less critical fashion, then say, the World Service. Which probably has more to do with their concise nature then anything.
Having to register doesn't mean you have to be truthful. This is the case especially with NYT. Its not really any sort of privacy threat.
The BBC often (and perhaps ironically) often takes an antiauthoritarian position. Their interviews are great since they're so much more combative then what you're used to from NPR and our media in general - they really try to get their guests to answer questions.
Seems like a none issue to me. Search for new york on Google, the New York Times is the first thing that comes back.
And another question... why are they not doing Google News searchs? Google made that feature for a reason.
I agree that there is the "deep web", databases like Lexus Nexus that require payment and a lot of useful information is locked up in it. Even if your school pays for it you can't just 'include' them in Google or wherever. That would be a great feature.
I'm sure the Russian mafia will do its job - they won't be waiting until August 13th. Probably more like next week.
Um, Denmark. RTFA.
Um, I wouldn't want some of the early Tintin in school libraries, certainly not in primary school (I wouldn't see a problem with it in high school). Granted, none of my school libraries had Tintin in them (I'm sure they had Tom Sawyer in them though, seeing how I'm from Missouri). Even if your not really worried about the racism, it isn't exactly historically accurate IIRC. Suppose it does have some literary value, seeing how Tintin is famous.
In my opinion, culturally insenstivity is something like wearing shorts in a Cathedral. Your making much more a fool out of yourself then you are trying to make a fool out of someone else. Depicting the "natives" in a brutish manner is dehumanizing and racist.
I doubt folks being annoyed by racism is at all a recent phenomenom.
I get what your saying. But I was responding to the notion that folks take Tintin seriously. I think being culturally-sensitive to inter-war European racism only goes so far. If "Just about everything created by that culture was racist (as it was in most of the world)" then why not label early Tintin as racist? Historical context is important, but ultimately racism and Kristallnacht and whatnot is what it is.
I hope folks don't take Tintin seriously. At least early Tintin is hella racist.
I did read Tintin when I was like 10. Isn't that more or less Tintin's audience?
I was in France last year, went to a comic convention, and did see some interesting looking comics, maybe I wasn't looking the right place, they all seemed to be in color and rather expensive (though I don't know French so I wasn't really in the market). Manga is notable for being mass produced, black and white and cheap. I think this is the biggest difference from manga and other comics around the world.
Though when I was in Mexico I saw comics books that were about the same printing quality as manga. Looked like it was mostly Westerns (I guess not really Westerns if its in Mexico) for men.
We are doing something like this in the summer. All the dorms are going to be on their own segment. The new cisco routers should give us a lot of power. But its still my belief that the underlying assumption should be that a LAN that's any more public then your home network is hostile. Each computer needs to be able to defend itself ultimately.
Then the students bring their computers back from the summer.
Making a campus LAN not a dangerous one is impossible. You have to assume worms are going to get in.