The one I leared to hate was up all the time, sure - because they took it down for 6 hours *every day*.
I manage as/400's as well as all manner of Unix boxen for a managed service provider. On the as/400 end I'm a monkey level admin. Alot of the mainframe principles apply to as/400s. Yes you do have to take the system down to do a full backup. However, thats only neccessary after a full backup, and the latest versions of os/400 let you save objects (files) whil e there active (have locks).
Having never dealt with a real mainframe, only there little brothers, I can't tell you how much of this applies to zSeries or there ancestors. I understand that people wait much longer between upgrades on true big iron, so even if all these features are available on the latest zSeries OS, most people don't have them.
I don't know what your Dell support level is, but when I call Dell gold support I get the problem resolved releatively quickly. I've only gotten someone with an Indian accent once, and he probally was an immigrant that worked in there call center in Texas or if not definatly not a script reader. As a matter of fact he was able to identify a problem with my server hanging on reboot as my video card not liking my monitor when the All American white anglosaxon protestand tech I called the day before was asking me to reinitialize the raid array.
Of course auctually calling for help is the exception rather than the rule. Most of the time my support call are to replace 9 gig drives on our 4300s. If youve never seen a 4300 before its 6 units high, has 6 drive bays capable of holding full height drives and a full row of card slots. CPUs are dual P3s in the 400-600 range. I believe 5 pci and one ISA but I'm not sure. They work damn well too except that the PERC 2 cards are begining to die and on ocassion we we have a server lock up hard and need a card replacement to boot again.
I don't know what you mean when you say that MS has boosted ease of use and a good office suite, I hope you are kidding.
Well I can remember a time when there was no open source office suite. Sure there was free as in beer star office and commerical alternatives such as the port of Word perfect 5.1 to SCO run via SCO binaryy emulation on Linux, but none of this came from the open source community.
Also, while open office is a great product that has some innovation in it, most of its features were inspired by Microsoft office. Microsoft office may have copied its features from elsewhere, but open office never made an attempt to be a Lotus-123 killer.
I'm not saying microsoft makes really great innovative products. I am saying microsoft made decent products that got the job done for tasks like word processing and spreadsheeting before the open source community did, and continues to. Also the open source communit gets alot of is inspiration for features of such products from Microsoft.
In other words, Microsoft is learning lessons from open source software and making IIS more like Apache httpd.
For better or for worse, Microsoft has definatly become a better company because of open source. Open source has definatly gotten better because of Microsoft too. Open source has harped on Microsoft because of security, and Microsoft has made itself more secure. Microsoft has bosted ease of use and a good office suite and as a result we get KDE, Gnome nad open office.
Which, as far as the prequels have indicated, is true. C-3PO was Anakin's creation, and R2-D2 was assigned to Padme's ship.
He was also attempting to lead Luke on the trail to become a jedi. Ben told Luke certain things at certain times to give him "a certain point of view." If he just came out and said, "Vadar is your father, Owen is your step brother, your sister was adopted by members of the royal court of alderan, and I've been bidding my time here waiting to undo 'bringing balance to the force.' So come with me becasue the entire galaxy depends on you and your daddy meeting and coming to terms," Luke might have ended up seeking out Vader to overthrow palpatine and take his place at his side.
Of course, one might wonder if Vader should've recognized the duo, but then again, there's probably a ton of similar looking droids running around.
Do you think Vader cared about a toy he built as a child and an astromech droid. Those droids, like the name anikan, no longer held any meaning for him. He didnt react to seeing them becasue destroying would mean acknowledging the droids and his "former self" held any signifigance.
Auctually all the stuff post Thrawn Trilogy (in regards to publishing not timeline) is considered cannon. Well at least in regards to each other. I believe also in regards to the Dark horse comics as well. The jedi academy trilogy did make mention of Luke turning to the dark side to become a Jedi master.
Last time I looked at the rawhide rpms there were seperate regular and xen kernel rpms. I've been playing with XEN for a while on a dual PIII 450 and coldfusion runs fine on it.
Uh minicomputer is an antiquated term from the days where mainframe wa synomous with computer, and a system/38 (the predessor to the iSeries) was considered small being it was the size of a large desk. We call iSeries class machines midranges these days
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PS Midranges arent; all green screens and dumb terminals these days. They even have this new fangled thing called apache where you can write applications that run in a web browser.
In the "real world this is not the case. Most server software can be compiled against libriaries several generations behind. This is partially due to the magic of automake/autoconf and partly due to things not changing all that much. Also alot of the apps that get work done tend to not have anythign on the system dependant on them. For example PHP. At my previous job we setup Redhat Enterprise servers. However we needed php5 and decided to compile it from the tarball. The only thing that depended on php was our code and this was for new apps so php wouldnt break anything.
Same could be applied to qmail or samba. And once an OS becomes EOLed you can just keep patching the kernel and the end user app.
The cause-effect relationship between eating pork and exhibiting trichinosis was not established until the 19th century. The idea that dietary laws against pork (which started over 5000 years ago) were somehow sane or rational is wishful thinking at best.
2 agruments against this. If the law really came from God, then he knew that pork was bad for you.
There's also a perfectly acceptable secular explaination. Pigs are organic recyclers. People kept them becasue they would eat damn near anything and then people would eat the pigs. [Cue up Elton John instrumental while James Earl Jones explains the foor chain.] Anyway, pigs had a much worse diet then than they did today and there flesh was inferior to what you buy at the supermarket. If you've ever seen a supermarket steak next to quality stuff from a butcher you would be able to tell the difference in marbling and texture. Pigs these days are fed a much better diet even when being used to reclaim organic material as foodstuff. The meat is far better quality. A group of people that decided to get together to write the laws for a nation would have realized this.
There is No such thing as a free lunch or a free market someone has to pay......
Free market is free as in speech. Free lunch refers to free as in beer.
Real geeks loved Apple up until about 1982. The Apple II was open and geeks loved it. Steve Jobs closed the Machintosh shut. No information : just plug and live with what we give you was his motto. Apple died when Woz got kicked out and the marketing droids took over. Wanna develop for Apple? Lock-in city: it only works on Apple.
That was the case with classic MacOS. OSX is Unix at the core, supports multiple languages, integrates Java better than most other platform, and much of it is open source. Even if you use the "one true toolit" Coccoa, your code can be portable to Next, GNUStep, OpenStep etc.
If you buy Apple, you are buying fluff.
It is not the "GUI" pioneer. It is not "the fastest PC". It's closed source GUI is a complete anathema to geeks.
If you buy a linux distro, you are buying fluff. You are not buying a Unix Pioneer, or an Open Source Pioneer. It is not the "fastest OS." Its a rewrite of a platform orginally developed in the 70's in New Jersey.
Apple is for the digital illiterati.
Apparently Linux is for the digital elitist in your eyes.
How the hell do you "whip" something up when there is less than zero project requirements gathering going on?
I think they meant get a basic idea if the requirements and then whip something up. I think that method leads to alot of rewrites, but it works if your not afraid to scrap your original design.
Its time for this New York Republican to remind many of you that in Texas they say, "If at first you don't secede, try try again." By the way if you all ever do secede from the union I'm sorry to say your going to have one more transplanted Yankee to deal with.
Wow, does he mention when the OpenOffice version of Access and InfoPath come out? Once we have those I'll migrate. I mean, it has been 5 years at least.
Can't comment on infopath being I never used it and I don't know what it does.
I've never heard of OO making an Access replacement. Out of curiosity what would you want said Access replacement to do. SQLite Gives you an embedded database engine that stores a database in a single file. Do you just want a GUI frontend to SQLite?
Whats your point? Microsoft has more lawyers and is goign to be more anal about such thing. It makes sense since there so pro IP. Netscape was started as the result of a college kid hacking together a web browser over the weekend that was rewritten, and eventually rewritten again after being open sourced. No one at netscape denies its Mosaic heritage. Its jsut a matter of how they go about crediting it.
Opera might be able to patent "using a tabbed interface to Multiple Document Interface"
I know of two peices of prior art to that. Lotus Notes and NoteTab Pro.
Doesn't that statement sort of contradict the entire Linux business model of give away the OS for free but sell the support?
Absolutly not. Giving the parents tech support is a cost sink. It rewards you with nothing. You profit from giving your parents a tech support free PC because it will save you time.
Now, as far as those people thast pay you for support, you want to minimize the fixing broken stuff. The human race always wants more more more. They also want things to be reliable. In the long run your better off doing the job in such a way that you have to do it once. If you kept having to go to your mechanic for the same problem, you'd probally find another one. However, if your mechanic did a good job at preventing you from making unneccessary visits to him, you'd probally be pretty loyal to him, reccomend him to friends, and listen to him when he reccomends preventative work. In the long run he would be making more money that way.
As a tech support person or firm the same would apply. Who are you going to trust to convert your busines mail server fro exchange to qmail, the smuck that can't get your Echange setup working right, or the one that can.
As a tiny minority in the Salt Lake area, your well-educated friends are simply being discrimated against and should move to a city that is not ruled by a fanatical religious cult.
I cannot speak for the specifics of Salt Lake, having never been there, but I would hardly think there being discriminated against because of there education. If there are jobs available that require high levels of education, then there being done by people with that level of education. Perhaps the people filling the jobs went to a conservative universoty, but conservative university does not neccesserally mean a non acreditted, creation science teaching, interracial dating institution such as Bob Jones University.
Also, if said educated people are living in Salt Lake, then they must have a reason to live there. If there were never any jobs in salt Lake they would have never moved there.
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The one I leared to hate was up all the time, sure - because they took it down for 6 hours *every day*.
I manage as/400's as well as all manner of Unix boxen for a managed service provider. On the as/400 end I'm a monkey level admin. Alot of the mainframe principles apply to as/400s. Yes you do have to take the system down to do a full backup. However, thats only neccessary after a full backup, and the latest versions of os/400 let you save objects (files) whil e there active (have locks).
Having never dealt with a real mainframe, only there little brothers, I can't tell you how much of this applies to zSeries or there ancestors. I understand that people wait much longer between upgrades on true big iron, so even if all these features are available on the latest zSeries OS, most people don't have them.
I don't know what your Dell support level is, but when I call Dell gold support I get the problem resolved releatively quickly. I've only gotten someone with an Indian accent once, and he probally was an immigrant that worked in there call center in Texas or if not definatly not a script reader. As a matter of fact he was able to identify a problem with my server hanging on reboot as my video card not liking my monitor when the All American white anglosaxon protestand tech I called the day before was asking me to reinitialize the raid array. Of course auctually calling for help is the exception rather than the rule. Most of the time my support call are to replace 9 gig drives on our 4300s. If youve never seen a 4300 before its 6 units high, has 6 drive bays capable of holding full height drives and a full row of card slots. CPUs are dual P3s in the 400-600 range. I believe 5 pci and one ISA but I'm not sure. They work damn well too except that the PERC 2 cards are begining to die and on ocassion we we have a server lock up hard and need a card replacement to boot again.
So what camp do you run the COPE program at? Justin Dearing Eagle Scout Vigil Honor Member Former Baiting Hollow Nature staff member.
I don't know what you mean when you say that MS has boosted ease of use and a good office suite, I hope you are kidding. Well I can remember a time when there was no open source office suite. Sure there was free as in beer star office and commerical alternatives such as the port of Word perfect 5.1 to SCO run via SCO binaryy emulation on Linux, but none of this came from the open source community.
Also, while open office is a great product that has some innovation in it, most of its features were inspired by Microsoft office. Microsoft office may have copied its features from elsewhere, but open office never made an attempt to be a Lotus-123 killer.
I'm not saying microsoft makes really great innovative products. I am saying microsoft made decent products that got the job done for tasks like word processing and spreadsheeting before the open source community did, and continues to. Also the open source communit gets alot of is inspiration for features of such products from Microsoft.
In other words, Microsoft is learning lessons from open source software and making IIS more like Apache httpd.
For better or for worse, Microsoft has definatly become a better company because of open source. Open source has definatly gotten better because of Microsoft too. Open source has harped on Microsoft because of security, and Microsoft has made itself more secure. Microsoft has bosted ease of use and a good office suite and as a result we get KDE, Gnome nad open office.
Competition is good.
Which, as far as the prequels have indicated, is true. C-3PO was Anakin's creation, and R2-D2 was assigned to Padme's ship.
He was also attempting to lead Luke on the trail to become a jedi. Ben told Luke certain things at certain times to give him "a certain point of view." If he just came out and said, "Vadar is your father, Owen is your step brother, your sister was adopted by members of the royal court of alderan, and I've been bidding my time here waiting to undo 'bringing balance to the force.' So come with me becasue the entire galaxy depends on you and your daddy meeting and coming to terms," Luke might have ended up seeking out Vader to overthrow palpatine and take his place at his side.
Of course, one might wonder if Vader should've recognized the duo, but then again, there's probably a ton of similar looking droids running around.
Do you think Vader cared about a toy he built as a child and an astromech droid. Those droids, like the name anikan, no longer held any meaning for him. He didnt react to seeing them becasue destroying would mean acknowledging the droids and his "former self" held any signifigance.
Auctually all the stuff post Thrawn Trilogy (in regards to publishing not timeline) is considered cannon. Well at least in regards to each other. I believe also in regards to the Dark horse comics as well. The jedi academy trilogy did make mention of Luke turning to the dark side to become a Jedi master.
Last time I looked at the rawhide rpms there were seperate regular and xen kernel rpms. I've been playing with XEN for a while on a dual PIII 450 and coldfusion runs fine on it.
Uh minicomputer is an antiquated term from the days where mainframe wa synomous with computer, and a system/38 (the predessor to the iSeries) was considered small being it was the size of a large desk. We call iSeries class machines midranges these days Justin Dearing Midrange/Unix admin PS Midranges arent; all green screens and dumb terminals these days. They even have this new fangled thing called apache where you can write applications that run in a web browser.
In the "real world this is not the case. Most server software can be compiled against libriaries several generations behind. This is partially due to the magic of automake/autoconf and partly due to things not changing all that much. Also alot of the apps that get work done tend to not have anythign on the system dependant on them. For example PHP. At my previous job we setup Redhat Enterprise servers. However we needed php5 and decided to compile it from the tarball. The only thing that depended on php was our code and this was for new apps so php wouldnt break anything.
Same could be applied to qmail or samba. And once an OS becomes EOLed you can just keep patching the kernel and the end user app.
The cause-effect relationship between eating pork and exhibiting trichinosis was not established until the 19th century. The idea that dietary laws against pork (which started over 5000 years ago) were somehow sane or rational is wishful thinking at best.
2 agruments against this. If the law really came from God, then he knew that pork was bad for you.
There's also a perfectly acceptable secular explaination. Pigs are organic recyclers. People kept them becasue they would eat damn near anything and then people would eat the pigs. [Cue up Elton John instrumental while James Earl Jones explains the foor chain.] Anyway, pigs had a much worse diet then than they did today and there flesh was inferior to what you buy at the supermarket. If you've ever seen a supermarket steak next to quality stuff from a butcher you would be able to tell the difference in marbling and texture. Pigs these days are fed a much better diet even when being used to reclaim organic material as foodstuff. The meat is far better quality. A group of people that decided to get together to write the laws for a nation would have realized this.
There is No such thing as a free lunch or a free market someone has to pay......
Free market is free as in speech. Free lunch refers to free as in beer.
Real geeks loved Apple up until about 1982. The Apple II was open and geeks loved it. Steve Jobs closed the Machintosh shut. No information : just plug and live with what we give you was his motto. Apple died when Woz got kicked out and the marketing droids took over. Wanna develop for Apple? Lock-in city: it only works on Apple.
That was the case with classic MacOS. OSX is Unix at the core, supports multiple languages, integrates Java better than most other platform, and much of it is open source. Even if you use the "one true toolit" Coccoa, your code can be portable to Next, GNUStep, OpenStep etc. If you buy Apple, you are buying fluff. It is not the "GUI" pioneer. It is not "the fastest PC". It's closed source GUI is a complete anathema to geeks.
If you buy a linux distro, you are buying fluff. You are not buying a Unix Pioneer, or an Open Source Pioneer. It is not the "fastest OS." Its a rewrite of a platform orginally developed in the 70's in New Jersey.
Apple is for the digital illiterati.
Apparently Linux is for the digital elitist in your eyes.
How the hell do you "whip" something up when there is less than zero project requirements gathering going on?
I think they meant get a basic idea if the requirements and then whip something up. I think that method leads to alot of rewrites, but it works if your not afraid to scrap your original design.
Its time for this New York Republican to remind many of you that in Texas they say, "If at first you don't secede, try try again." By the way if you all ever do secede from the union I'm sorry to say your going to have one more transplanted Yankee to deal with.
Wow, does he mention when the OpenOffice version of Access and InfoPath come out? Once we have those I'll migrate. I mean, it has been 5 years at least. Can't comment on infopath being I never used it and I don't know what it does.
I've never heard of OO making an Access replacement. Out of curiosity what would you want said Access replacement to do. SQLite Gives you an embedded database engine that stores a database in a single file. Do you just want a GUI frontend to SQLite?
I prefer the news organizations effectively use what influence they have, then try to gain powers they don't.
I expect the news to observer and report. Leave it to those that read the papers to do the reforming.
Whats your point? Microsoft has more lawyers and is goign to be more anal about such thing. It makes sense since there so pro IP. Netscape was started as the result of a college kid hacking together a web browser over the weekend that was rewritten, and eventually rewritten again after being open sourced. No one at netscape denies its Mosaic heritage. Its jsut a matter of how they go about crediting it.
Well perhaps we need a term for these each document is a tab interfaces.
You insult the marines by refering to chair force as grunts. GO NAVY!!!!
Uh NoteTab is tabbed, but not MDI.
NoteTab is MDI. each tab contains a seperate text file. Each text file is a document. How is that not MDI?
Opera might be able to patent "using a tabbed interface to Multiple Document Interface"
I know of two peices of prior art to that. Lotus Notes and NoteTab Pro.
Doesn't that statement sort of contradict the entire Linux business model of give away the OS for free but sell the support?
Absolutly not. Giving the parents tech support is a cost sink. It rewards you with nothing. You profit from giving your parents a tech support free PC because it will save you time.
Now, as far as those people thast pay you for support, you want to minimize the fixing broken stuff. The human race always wants more more more. They also want things to be reliable. In the long run your better off doing the job in such a way that you have to do it once. If you kept having to go to your mechanic for the same problem, you'd probally find another one. However, if your mechanic did a good job at preventing you from making unneccessary visits to him, you'd probally be pretty loyal to him, reccomend him to friends, and listen to him when he reccomends preventative work. In the long run he would be making more money that way.
As a tech support person or firm the same would apply. Who are you going to trust to convert your busines mail server fro exchange to qmail, the smuck that can't get your Echange setup working right, or the one that can.
As a tiny minority in the Salt Lake area, your well-educated friends are simply being discrimated against and should move to a city that is not ruled by a fanatical religious cult.
I cannot speak for the specifics of Salt Lake, having never been there, but I would hardly think there being discriminated against because of there education. If there are jobs available that require high levels of education, then there being done by people with that level of education. Perhaps the people filling the jobs went to a conservative universoty, but conservative university does not neccesserally mean a non acreditted, creation science teaching, interracial dating institution such as Bob Jones University.
Also, if said educated people are living in Salt Lake, then they must have a reason to live there. If there were never any jobs in salt Lake they would have never moved there.
That's like comparing dead dinosaurs and algorithms.
All I have to say is turring tar pit, the analogy that is used in the Mythical Man Month to a software project gone wrong.