This operating system is targeted for appliances and the such. That is why they are selling source code. Now I'll agree that it might take a little more time to obtain the proper documentation to develop under linux, its out there and its not as bad as we make it out to be. Not to mention the large developer base and the fact that if you open source your project others with similar needs will help to solve your problems. And commercial support is available and getting better all the time.
Linux is not perfect nor the final answer for everything. However, there are other free thing out there that come with better documation. The open source BSDs are well documented, commercial support is available for them, and have 20 years of history.
If transmeta puts windows on there machines, more companies will buy it. Personally if I was transmeta I would wait till someone got gcc to compile native transmeta code. Then redhat and the likes would create transmeta enhanced distro's. They slap redhat on, negotiate a limited contract for technical support, and bamn Intel loses market share in portable chips. That means, assuming AMD keeps its dominance of high end and low end desktop we are just a merger away from seeing intel stocks from taking a major dive.
I personally run OpenBSD on my washer/dryer. I run a cron job to move my laundry from my hamper (also OpenBSD)hamper to the washer via encrypted coda. Unfortunatly, my firewall is being constantly attacked by underpants gnomes. However, the setup works and is secure. I've never fallen victim to Ddos (distributed denial of socks) attacks.
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Well I'm pretty sure BIOS code (the propietary kind that most people have in there ROM) is written assembly so minus it not being commented a dissassembler in theory would give you source code.
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I really don't see what Mandrake has to offer as a laptop company. All the distros have laptop issues, although you can get most distros on most laptops. The two biggest issues are X and sound. pcmcia works fine, the only issue is people compiling there first kernel might not realize that pcmcia has to be recompiled. For supported hardware it is plug and play. Any propietary pcmcia upgrade cards like dvd players just need to have drivers written for them, which isn't that hard for a development team with specs. You can easily tune any distros install for a particular line of laptops. Honestly I think Slackware would be perfect if Compaq or IMB gave the boys at linuxmafia.com a hand with libslacktool and some pretty X utils for the newbies. And contrary to popular belief X is great in Slack. Any distro would be good, and with the market elovling I can definatly see multi distro and even FreeBSD laptops. People want choices, the current and emerging linux laptop market will definatly want choices.
they can make Windoze Open Source, and publish it in paper form so we can all burn a copy each
That could lead to a large class action law suit. Members of the wine development team would auctually read the source code which in all probality cause there brains to explode.
I predict that within ten years, the "good schools" will be the ones that bite the bullet and realize that hands on learning gets you much farther than the traditional drill-and-grill mode.
I think some hands on would be benificial. This could be implemented by making research part of the undergraduate cirriculum. Schools like research, it gets them fame and money. An undergraduate research program will encourage students to study in there lecture classes because they will see school in general in as much more useful. However, in order for it to be continually successful and undergraduate research program would have to allow students to work on existing projects as well as start new ones. Also the fact that the type of students that will partake in the program lack the skills and desire to make proper reports and notes would have to be taken into consideration. There should be accompaining lectures on technical writing along with plenty of available writing consulation. Also there should be TA's to assist the falculaty advisiors.
Well the less command in linux is more++. BTW, in FreeBSD more has less like functionality, more or less. Therefore Lesstif would be a better version under your frame of logic. Although the real reason is that laMtif (laMtif ain't Motif) sounds bad.
Well I never used a 2.3 kernel, but they are unstable, and as far as I know no distro allows you to install a 2.3 kernel in an out of box install except arguable slackware since during the install it lets you put any kernel on ytour system that you have on a floppy. Anyway the point is 2.3 is unstable, although not as bad as winblows, and therefore probally locks up on ocassion. Also, linux does not have 100% uptime as stated n previous posts. Not even if you assume no hardware or kernel upgrades. It is possible, however hard to lock up a linux machine. Want to see it done? set up a script to login to an anonymous ftp site and close the ftp client without closing the connection(exit the ftp client with kill -9 or crtl+c). New connections will open faster than they are closed and the machine will die. This works on solaris to I believe. FreeBSD lives through this. I only guarantee this to work on 2.0.38 and whatever version of solaris that my school was running at the time on the student shell account server with that special unauthorized backpatch from 2.2.x for the ultra anal rententive although it will probally work on and 2.0.x.
It was probally before moderation. Auctually, and hopefully some original posters could verify this, first posting was probally originally just about getting your post up top where all would see. It probally slowly downgraded as people became more obsessed with being first and then compromised the contents of their posts. Eventually they would append first post to the end of their posts and finally the contents of the post were ommitted.
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We all complain about censorship and especially about web filtering software. However, there are many readers of slashdot who are forced to use computers with this software installed. Using such language in posts will not help keeping out of these software's list's. Lets take som social responsibility here people.
its great to see that there is one site to go for linux games. its also great to see that this is a sourceforge site. Windows is still king of games, but between this and loki the penguin might over take his thrown.
We all sit at our computers and complain about how big brother is gonna get us , but none of us are going out to become active in political organizations and bringing out these issues. previous generations have done so about issues of the day, but we seem to ake our freedom for granted.
Well if you really want to be fair you have to do one of two things.
Take Win2k and load it up with Fictional Daemon (telnet only ftp disabled), apache, exchange server, and an ftp server that is known to be rootable. Throw in some other things to make up for things like finger that you can't add to win 2k and use VNC as a sorta equiviland of xdm. Now that Win2k is ready to take whatever comes into you machines NIC, except mabey hot grits. Now that you have windows set up like an out of box linux install count all known bugs and compare it with the bug count of your favorite distro.
Take your favorite linux distro. Remove inetd completly, install X with kde since it is releatively similar look and feel wise to linux. Install kde progs to match standard Win2k utilities. Add smb and a stable kde gui frontend. Remove all console utilities that have no equlivant in win2k. Now install a natile portman desktop theme on both computers. Compare the amount of known bugs
comparing a bugcount of the two kernels is not fair because the windows kernel is not really seperate from the rest of the OS, while the linux kernel could be placed on a system without any of the traditional unix tools and a custom init and work
Well auctually since Judge Dredd takes place in the future he probally would use C++. Hopefully by then the use of C++ by universities in introductory programming courses will end prejudices towards this wonderful supetset of C and most apps, including any judgment ones, will be written in C++.
You should see if you can stay at universities and other places that are wired for ethernet during you tour. Not as a main connection but a secondary one. For when you have to make large downloads from ftp sites (or Windows Update if your one of them). Seriously though downloading kernel 2.4 or the FreeBSD ports collection at 9600 is not my idea of a good time.
I've played with 3.4 on a friends system and am about to go from slack to Free on my real system. Compiling works fine although I've had lots of trouble with KDE and the only time I tried a make world it screwed up ncurses which really sucks for a console freak like me
Are they going to leave the specs open so Linux and the BSDs can support it? Seriously this could be kewl if you could think commands into a bash prompt, or think your mouse to move, or use whatever interface it works with just by thinking. If you combine this with voice recognition you could have a very efficient UI.
Well I am also of the understanding that all nasa computers that go into space are powered byc 286's. Apparently they're the only things that don't get screwed up by cosmic rays. S If this is the case then I assume hardrives have similar problems. Although this does pose a problem if Slashdot ever aqquires a space shuttle. Commander Taco would be forced to become a minix guru.
I am well aware of Slackware's current rpm capabilities and its inclusion of Gnome. However, I have issues with both of them.
First the gnome inclusion. While I know it works fine, my instance on recompling EVERYTHING (yes even gcc)has caused me to have issues wih libraries that have caused it to no longer work.
This brings up the rpm issue. If Slack was rpm based then I would use source rpms for most of my software and install the binary rpms. This would make it much easier to resolve issues such as these. While its true that rpm --force would work if slack was rpm based, or if someone made a tool that allowed you to do a base install of slack use the tgz package database to start off building the rpm database so the rpm tool would work right.
However, I really think that the best thing for a person like me to do is to switch to FreeBSD.
I think I might builg and RPM like slackware with this. I find slack is the only thing I use, but a working rpm database would make it easier to fix slackware when it starts to get broken. right now I can't get Gnome to compile or run binaries because of library issues
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This operating system is targeted for appliances and the such. That is why they are selling source code. Now I'll agree that it might take a little more time to obtain the proper documentation to develop under linux, its out there and its not as bad as we make it out to be. Not to mention the large developer base and the fact that if you open source your project others with similar needs will help to solve your problems. And commercial support is available and getting better all the time.
Linux is not perfect nor the final answer for everything. However, there are other free thing out there that come with better documation. The open source BSDs are well documented, commercial support is available for them, and have 20 years of history.
If transmeta puts windows on there machines, more companies will buy it. Personally if I was transmeta I would wait till someone got gcc to compile native transmeta code. Then redhat and the likes would create transmeta enhanced distro's. They slap redhat on, negotiate a limited contract for technical support, and bamn Intel loses market share in portable chips. That means, assuming AMD keeps its dominance of high end and low end desktop we are just a merger away from seeing intel stocks from taking a major dive.
I personally run OpenBSD on my washer/dryer. I run a cron job to move my laundry from my hamper (also OpenBSD)hamper to the washer via encrypted coda. Unfortunatly, my firewall is being constantly attacked by underpants gnomes. However, the setup works and is secure. I've never fallen victim to Ddos (distributed denial of socks) attacks.
Well I'm pretty sure BIOS code (the propietary kind that most people have in there ROM) is written assembly so minus it not being commented a dissassembler in theory would give you source code.
I really don't see what Mandrake has to offer as a laptop company. All the distros have laptop issues, although you can get most distros on most laptops. The two biggest issues are X and sound. pcmcia works fine, the only issue is people compiling there first kernel might not realize that pcmcia has to be recompiled. For supported hardware it is plug and play. Any propietary pcmcia upgrade cards like dvd players just need to have drivers written for them, which isn't that hard for a development team with specs. You can easily tune any distros install for a particular line of laptops. Honestly I think Slackware would be perfect if Compaq or IMB gave the boys at linuxmafia.com a hand with libslacktool and some pretty X utils for the newbies. And contrary to popular belief X is great in Slack.
Any distro would be good, and with the market elovling I can definatly see multi distro and even FreeBSD laptops. People want choices, the current and emerging linux laptop market will definatly want choices.
That could lead to a large class action law suit. Members of the wine development team would auctually read the source code which in all probality cause there brains to explode.
I predict that within ten years, the "good schools" will be the ones that bite the bullet and realize that hands on learning gets you much farther than the traditional drill-and-grill mode.
I think some hands on would be benificial. This could be implemented by making research part of the undergraduate cirriculum. Schools like research, it gets them fame and money. An undergraduate research program will encourage students to study in there lecture classes because they will see school in general in as much more useful. However, in order for it to be continually successful and undergraduate research program would have to allow students to work on existing projects as well as start new ones. Also the fact that the type of students that will partake in the program lack the skills and desire to make proper reports and notes would have to be taken into consideration. There should be accompaining lectures on technical writing along with plenty of available writing consulation. Also there should be TA's to assist the falculaty advisiors.
Well the less command in linux is more++. BTW, in FreeBSD more has less like functionality, more or less. Therefore Lesstif would be a better version under your frame of logic. Although the real reason is that laMtif (laMtif ain't Motif) sounds bad.
Well I never used a 2.3 kernel, but they are unstable, and as far as I know no distro allows you to install a 2.3 kernel in an out of box install except arguable slackware since during the install it lets you put any kernel on ytour system that you have on a floppy. Anyway the point is 2.3 is unstable, although not as bad as winblows, and therefore probally locks up on ocassion. Also, linux does not have 100% uptime as stated n previous posts. Not even if you assume no hardware or kernel upgrades. It is possible, however hard to lock up a linux machine. Want to see it done? set up a script to login to an anonymous ftp site and close the ftp client without closing the connection(exit the ftp client with kill -9 or crtl+c). New connections will open faster than they are closed and the machine will die. This works on solaris to I believe. FreeBSD lives through this. I only guarantee this to work on 2.0.38 and whatever version of solaris that my school was running at the time on the student shell account server with that special unauthorized backpatch from 2.2.x for the ultra anal rententive although it will probally work on and 2.0.x.
It was probally before moderation. Auctually, and hopefully some original posters could verify this, first posting was probally originally just about getting your post up top where all would see. It probally slowly downgraded as people became more obsessed with being first and then compromised the contents of their posts. Eventually they would append first post to the end of their posts and finally the contents of the post were ommitted.
We all complain about censorship and especially about web filtering software. However, there are many readers of slashdot who are forced to use computers with this software installed. Using such language in posts will not help keeping out of these software's list's. Lets take som social responsibility here people.
Are you implying that MS engages in unfair business practices in order to eradicate its competition?
Where could you get such an idea?
its great to see that there is one site to go for linux games. its also great to see that this is a sourceforge site. Windows is still king of games, but between this and loki the penguin might over take his thrown.
We all sit at our computers and complain about how big brother is gonna get us , but none of us are going out to become active in political organizations and bringing out these issues. previous generations have done so about issues of the day, but we seem to ake our freedom for granted.
comparing a bugcount of the two kernels is not fair because the windows kernel is not really seperate from the rest of the OS, while the linux kernel could be placed on a system without any of the traditional unix tools and a custom init and work
Well auctually since Judge Dredd takes place in the future he probally would use C++. Hopefully by then the use of C++ by universities in introductory programming courses will end prejudices towards this wonderful supetset of C and most apps, including any judgment ones, will be written in C++.
Ah I remember those weren't they popular on a certain model of Tandy computers.
You should see if you can stay at universities and other places that are wired for ethernet during you tour. Not as a main connection but a secondary one. For when you have to make large downloads from ftp sites (or Windows Update if your one of them). Seriously though downloading kernel 2.4 or the FreeBSD ports collection at 9600 is not my idea of a good time.
I've played with 3.4 on a friends system and am about to go from slack to Free on my real system. Compiling works fine although I've had lots of trouble with KDE and the only time I tried a make world it screwed up ncurses which really sucks for a console freak like me
I believe it was 86 but I'm not sure
Are they going to leave the specs open so Linux and the BSDs can support it? Seriously this could be kewl if you could think commands into a bash prompt, or think your mouse to move, or use whatever interface it works with just by thinking. If you combine this with voice recognition you could have a very efficient UI.
Well I am also of the understanding that all nasa computers that go into space are powered byc 286's. Apparently they're the only things that don't get screwed up by cosmic rays. S If this is the case then I assume hardrives have similar problems. Although this does pose a problem if Slashdot ever aqquires a space shuttle. Commander Taco would be forced to become a minix guru.
I am well aware of Slackware's current rpm capabilities and its inclusion of Gnome. However, I have issues with both of them.
First the gnome inclusion. While I know it works fine, my instance on recompling EVERYTHING (yes even gcc)has caused me to have issues wih libraries that have caused it to no longer work.
This brings up the rpm issue. If Slack was rpm based then I would use source rpms for most of my software and install the binary rpms. This would make it much easier to resolve issues such as these. While its true that rpm --force would work if slack was rpm based, or if someone made a tool that allowed you to do a base install of slack use the tgz package database to start off building the rpm database so the rpm tool would work right.
However, I really think that the best thing for a person like me to do is to switch to FreeBSD.
I love that page. Hopefully the slashdoting it recieves is appreciated by the owner.
I think I might builg and RPM like slackware with this. I find slack is the only thing I use, but a working rpm database would make it easier to fix slackware when it starts to get broken. right now I can't get Gnome to compile or run binaries because of library issues