Q: How many internet mail list subscribers does it take to change a light bulb?
A: 1,331: 1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail list that the light bulb has been changed 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently. 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs. 53 to flame the spell checkers 156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness to this mail list. 41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames. 109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and to please take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb 203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing light bulbs be stopped. 111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we are all use light bulbs and therefore the posts *are* relevant to this mail list. 306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique, and what brands are faulty. 27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs 14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post corrected URLs. 3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs relevant to this list. 33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote them including all headers and footers, and then add "Me Too." 12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they cannot handle the light bulb controversey. 19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three." 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ. 1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup. 47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion was meant for, leave it here. 143 votes for alt.lite.bulb.
[Note - making the list and newsgroups rounds in a big way, original author unknown - ed.]
How very true. It is kinda funny that I found this story online. I just landed here in India today and am/.ing from Bombay. Lets face a couple of things. The only thing that any cyberwar between these two countries would achive is vandalism of some key websites. Most of the infrastructure in both these countries (99%) is so antiquated that even a nuclear bomb would not cause much damage to society (other than death and destruction). I can barely keep my phone line connection alive for more than 10 minutes. Forget doing anything worth while:)
Why I have given up on search engines....
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Google is launched!
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Lets face it folks, no matter what the technologies the engines are having a *tough* time keeping up with the plethora of sites thats out there. A lot of the brick and mortar businesses, mom and pop businesses and companies that provide niche products are just getting online NOW. By the time these engines catch up with the new sites it would be a while.
Lets also take into account that even human edited directories are having a hard time. My vote goes for ODP the only "search engine" that I bother with anymore. They are turning into something that yahoo used to be in the good old stanford days.. a genuine human edited interface for joe-surfer.
Just venting some frustration over people go gaga over a google.
What Microsoft forgets that it has in many ways, some ethical and some unethical killed off its competition. The company I work for has been in the past a target of veiled threats from MS... "Release product A and we might just be forced to release a free version of product B which will cost you so many millions of dollars in sales". Innovation goes both ways. This is the sad thing that Microsoft forgets all about. MS product managers are trained to assimililate and eliminate threats made to their product line.
I took a look at this story and hurried over to the NSI website and the account I use to register some domains to check this out. Nothing.
I am glad there was nothing, no dotcomnow account that I can think of and no email with my nice little present from Netsol. If there was, I guess I might have joined in the frenzy here.
This got me thinking about what the "security hole" is.
a) That account cannot be used to change my domain parameters, since it does not match the e-mail address I registered from. b) Anyone can really set up an account on one of thousands of webmail providers and pretend to be me. Heck, this has happened to me before on some discussion groups, and there is simply nothing I can do to prevent someone from misrepresenting me to lusers. People who know me know where my e-mail comes from, and know I use digital signatures. c) How is this different from your friendly bank sending you a credit card without your approval? Infact that is something which I consider more dangerous than this act of stupidity by Netsol.
Having said this, I seriously think we're over reacting.
3rd Party ad servers are essentially great for small websites who do not have the manpower (I'm a one person website for example) or the popularity (i cant imagine amazon taking a website with 50000 page loads / month seriously).
From my perspective, the ads pay the bills related to hosting the site, so they are a necessary evil.
We were out partying last night in Hong Kong (well past mid-night) and one of my buddies who is a senior cop threatened to "get medieval" on the bartender if the Carlsberg tap stopped functioning after midnight, when he was planning on joining us.
He told us that 28,000 cops were deployed last night here in HK. During one of their planning meetings he had mentioned to his supervisors that he thought this was just general paranioa. "Sir, I have never heard of a computer nicking a criminal".
I had paid about 50 odd dollars for a 5.2 CD-ROM a while back. However, it was a waste, considering I live outside the US. Was a lot easier to browse through howto sites.
Don't they realise that most people technical enough to want to install their own operating system (especially linux) would know enough about getting support from free sources (no pun intended).
This is so flipping *STUPID*. Does any resonable IT person with a brain belive a telco vendor when they say that they do not need a contingency plan???
While MCI and apparently Lucent share a major percentage of the blame in this particular situation someone at CBOT screwed up big time. What next? Someone told us we did not need a UPS for our systems?
Does anyone else remember the flack Ebay took for apparently running their business without redundancies in their infrastructure?
H1-B is a visa which allows a foreign citizen to work / conduct business in the US and get paid for it. Here's the description from the US Embassy site in Hong Kong.
H-1B classification applies to persons in a specialty occupation which requires the theoretical and practical application of a body of highly specialized knowledge requiring completion of a specific course of higher education. This classification requires a labor attestation issued by the Secretary of Labor (65,000). This classification also applies to Government-to-Government research and development, or coproduction projects administered by the Department of Defense (100);
Thank you for a sane and objective post. Yes, I agree with you. Linus has impacted the IT market, but not the "century". Unfortunately, we are in the Internet era where zealots of all sorts can band together easily and impact a poll of this sort.
My choices would be someone from a decade other than the one we are in. The 90's have just been too weird... impeachment, wars / conflicts breaking out like almost no other time in recent history, the acceptance that trade is worth more than human rights...
*Grin* Your post reminded me of the report of man landing on the moon in "Our Dumb Century" by The Onion Folks. Seriously though, the trend is moving back to luggables / portables for home and small office space usage. I would not classify these new machines as laptops. I personally prefer to use a large notebook at home because I can move it around easily between the living room, bedroom, study etc when I am working at home. Additionally, space is at a premium in most parts of Asia (especially places like Hong Kong, Japan etc) and having a notebook with a large screen which takes up less real estate makes life a lot easier.
Wasnt it just about 3 or 4 months ago that the folks at Elbrus were asking for financing? What exactly happened between now and then? I recall reading in early April that they were still running simulations on the chip and that there was no silicon available.
Anyone here who has more information than whats on their website?
I live in Hong Kong and must admit, I have browsed a dozen plus bookstores and tried to order from them. However, I keep going back to Amazon since they can package DVDs, CDs AND books in one shipment. No other e-tailer can do this at the moment. This represents an incredible saving for me.
I have also found their service incredibly friendly, helpful and *gasp* generous when it comes to replacing an order which got lost while upgrading the shipment at the same time.
I just wish they could ship via regular airmail which might be a little cheaper for me than worldmail. However, I am not complaining. Shri - A happy Amazon customer.
I would be more comfortable if UN speeded up its debt collection. A lot of the countries (the US that I know of specifically) who use the UN to further their political agendas do not pay up their annual membership (?) dues. I recall reading some statistics that the UN is owed a few billion dollars.
If the UN cannot collect from its member nations, what hope does it have to collect from Joe Spammer??
Oh give me a break. I am tired of people extrapolating the 2 billion armpit market into "worlds largest IT market". Most of the folks in China are barely making ends meet. The rest are too busy pirating software to really be considered a market.
*sigh* Crisis management has taken such a turn in these days. A few years ago it would have taken atleast a couple of days between the various events that have taken place. Nowadays, everyone wants to jump on a hot story, be the first person to post, the first person to break the news (drudge, cnn etc all have fallen victim to this).
On a side note, I remember a story on segfault, called an anti-/. kit.... perhaps there is really a market to detect abnormal traffic (e-mail, hits on web sites, DOS etc..) and firing off alerts on various pagers?
Same here.. and this must be the second time in a couple of months that I have tried to access the site. Seems like they're blocking href's from slashdot.
Slashdot Mirror
Dug up this one from the rec.humor.funny archives.
. htmlNewsgroup behavior (fwd)
http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/97/May/listlb
bfinley@sade.eco.REMOVETHIS-NOSPAM.utexas.edu (Photo Dude)
(chuckle, Internet)
Q: How many internet mail list subscribers does it take to change a light bulb?
A: 1,331: 1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail list that the light bulb has been changed 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently. 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs. 53 to flame the spell checkers 156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness to this mail list. 41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames. 109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and to please take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb 203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing light bulbs be stopped. 111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we are all use light bulbs and therefore the posts *are* relevant to this mail list. 306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique, and what brands are faulty. 27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs 14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post corrected URLs. 3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs relevant to this list. 33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote them including all headers and footers, and then add "Me Too." 12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they cannot handle the light bulb controversey. 19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three." 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ. 1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup. 47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion was meant for, leave it here. 143 votes for alt.lite.bulb.
[Note - making the list and newsgroups rounds in a big way, original author unknown - ed.]
How very true. It is kinda funny that I found this story online. I just landed here in India today and am /.ing from Bombay. Lets face a couple of things. The only thing that any cyberwar between these two countries would achive is vandalism of some key websites. Most of the infrastructure in both these countries (99%) is so antiquated that even a nuclear bomb would not cause much damage to society (other than death and destruction). I can barely keep my phone line connection alive for more than 10 minutes. Forget doing anything worth while :)
Lets face it folks, no matter what the technologies the engines are having a *tough* time keeping up with the plethora of sites thats out there. A lot of the brick and mortar businesses, mom and pop businesses and companies that provide niche products are just getting online NOW. By the time these engines catch up with the new sites it would be a while.
Lets also take into account that even human edited directories are having a hard time. My vote goes for ODP the only "search engine" that I bother with anymore. They are turning into something that yahoo used to be in the good old stanford days.. a genuine human edited interface for joe-surfer.
Just venting some frustration over people go gaga over a google.
What Microsoft forgets that it has in many ways, some ethical and some unethical killed off its competition. The company I work for has been in the past a target of veiled threats from MS... "Release product A and we might just be forced to release a free version of product B which will cost you so many millions of dollars in sales". Innovation goes both ways. This is the sad thing that Microsoft forgets all about. MS product managers are trained to assimililate and eliminate threats made to their product line.
I agree. The least they could have done would have been to add some sort of verified activation.
;-)
Go to this URL and activate your account. On activation the password would be sent to the e-mail in your contact info.
BAD security. But not a major concern for now. Unless they have updated your NSI contact info to your new e-mail addr
I took a look at this story and hurried over to the NSI website and the account I use to register some domains to check this out. Nothing.
I am glad there was nothing, no dotcomnow account that I can think of and no email with my nice little present from Netsol. If there was, I guess I might have joined in the frenzy here.
This got me thinking about what the "security hole" is.
a) That account cannot be used to change my domain parameters, since it does not match the e-mail address I registered from.
b) Anyone can really set up an account on one of thousands of webmail providers and pretend to be me. Heck, this has happened to me before on some discussion groups, and there is simply nothing I can do to prevent someone from misrepresenting me to lusers. People who know me know where my e-mail comes from, and know I use digital signatures.
c) How is this different from your friendly bank sending you a credit card without your approval? Infact that is something which I consider more dangerous than this act of stupidity by Netsol.
Having said this, I seriously think we're over reacting.
Shri -- returning to the scheduled Typhoon York.
It's /.ed. Very ironic if you ask me. I managed to get through after about 15 reloads.
From my perspective, the ads pay the bills related to hosting the site, so they are a necessary evil.
He told us that 28,000 cops were deployed last night here in HK. During one of their planning meetings he had mentioned to his supervisors that he thought this was just general paranioa. "Sir, I have never heard of a computer nicking a criminal".
This is offtopic and I have not lived in the US for a while. But WHY would you need extra insurance?? Shri
I had paid about 50 odd dollars for a 5.2 CD-ROM a while back. However, it was a waste, considering I live outside the US. Was a lot easier to browse through howto sites.
Don't they realise that most people technical enough to want to install their own operating system (especially linux) would know enough about getting support from free sources (no pun intended).
This is so flipping *STUPID*. Does any resonable IT person with a brain belive a telco vendor when they say that they do not need a contingency plan???
While MCI and apparently Lucent share a major percentage of the blame in this particular situation someone at CBOT screwed up big time. What next? Someone told us we did not need a UPS for our systems?
Does anyone else remember the flack Ebay took for apparently running their business without redundancies in their infrastructure?
H-1B classification applies to persons in a specialty occupation which requires the theoretical and practical application of a body of highly specialized knowledge requiring completion of a specific course of higher education. This classification requires a labor attestation issued by the Secretary of Labor (65,000). This classification also applies to Government-to-Government research and development, or coproduction projects administered by the Department of Defense (100);
Shri
My choices would be someone from a decade other than the one we are in. The 90's have just been too weird... impeachment, wars / conflicts breaking out like almost no other time in recent history, the acceptance that trade is worth more than human rights...
Someone get me on the next flight to Mars :)
*Grin* Your post reminded me of the report of man landing on the moon in "Our Dumb Century" by The Onion Folks. Seriously though, the trend is moving back to luggables / portables for home and small office space usage. I would not classify these new machines as laptops. I personally prefer to use a large notebook at home because I can move it around easily between the living room, bedroom, study etc when I am working at home. Additionally, space is at a premium in most parts of Asia (especially places like Hong Kong, Japan etc) and having a notebook with a large screen which takes up less real estate makes life a lot easier.
Reminds you the "Galaxy" on "Orion's Belt" in the movie Men in Black doesnt it ;-)
*grin* This one had me laughing out aloud! Someone up this :-)
Besides... the address is from chat.ru and I'd doubt anyone at elbrus.ru would list their showcase CPU on such a forum using an address from chat.ru.
Anyone here who has more information than whats on their website?
Shri
I have also found their service incredibly friendly, helpful and *gasp* generous when it comes to replacing an order which got lost while upgrading the shipment at the same time.
I just wish they could ship via regular airmail which might be a little cheaper for me than worldmail. However, I am not complaining. Shri - A happy Amazon customer.
If the UN cannot collect from its member nations, what hope does it have to collect from Joe Spammer??
Oh give me a break. I am tired of people extrapolating the 2 billion armpit market into "worlds largest IT market". Most of the folks in China are barely making ends meet. The rest are too busy pirating software to really be considered a market.
On a side note, I remember a story on segfault, called an anti-/. kit.... perhaps there is really a market to detect abnormal traffic (e-mail, hits on web sites, DOS etc..) and firing off alerts on various pagers?
Same here .. and this must be the second time in a couple of months that I have tried to access the site. Seems like they're blocking href's from slashdot.
Not to deter you Euro centric folks . but even people from Asia read /. Shri