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Well, not many people may realize it, but the UW has been working on a newer version of Pine then what was just released. Many schools have their own webmail program (UW had this really bad one for a while), but UW has been developing what it calls Webpine for a long time now accessable at webpine.washington.edu if you're a UW student (links to find out more are on the page. It works pretty well, when accessing my old UW email account, I generally log into webpine (I don't have shell access anymore so normal pine is out the window). Given time, and ways to speed the process up for those of us unfortunate enough to be on dialup (broadband isn't always the fastest for some parts of it either), and this could be really good. It's written at least partially in tcl.
Um, informative is wrong on this. Nowhere in any of the information (including Nintendo's Press releases) does it say anything about this. He is right that it is essentially a boot disk that comes with the GBA adaptor, but it does not say that the games set to link to the system will work correctly. It's actually more likely they wont work correctly because the gamecube game is programmed to output and input data through the controller port, not the high speed port on the bottom of the cube which this plugs into.
Okay, I haven't seen this first episode yet, but I feel the need to comment on other people's responses to different comments, so here goes.
Okay, first off, Paramount gives Trek a lot of freedom to not do the 'Everything is fine at the end of the day' thing. For those who payed attention to DS9 starting with the episode "Jem'Hadar," you'll notice DS9 had great freedom to not do the everything is fine at the end of the day. I mean, that episode ended up with the good guys (the Federation), barely escaping with their lives (not counting the Odysssey getting rammed by a ship while it was retreating). The dominion war was a great example of this. Of course in the end it managed to work out, but it took 2 whole seasons to finally resolve once the combat began. Now if that's not waiting a little longer than the end of the day, I don't know what is.
Sadly I'll mention voyager. Somehow a starship winding trapped 70 years away from Federation space doesn't exactly seem completely wrapped up at the end of the day...
The Ferengi in Enterprise: Who says history records them as the Ferengi?
Okay, the last thing I have to mention is those few comments about how Archer and company are out there doing more damage in the end. As we've already seen, the Andorians, who are later allies, but look to be the best of the antagonists in the series. As people pointed out with the temporal cold war thing, the best villans are those who are your friends, or who are goodguys (think about it, in the same way Robin Hood was a Villan). The Andorians have already shown both sides of this, and the series may best be served by showing the continued encounters with the Andorians, and how their anger with the vulcans was eventually resolved to the point that they all became allies and made the Federation... Sure it sounds like Voyager and the Borg, or TOS and the Klingons, but in this case we know that everybody eventually gets along, but how these two races which have very hostile parts to them become this way could be what truly develops this show into some of the best trek.
I was afraid of Enterprise when I heard Bakula was going to be captain (I loved Quantum Leap, but it just didn't seem right). But I watched anyways, and have decided I like the show, for maybe different reasons then the past series, but I see a lot of potential there. I know you'll say TPTB will screw it up (and I'm sure to some extent they will), but I'm still interested in seeing where it goes from here.
I'm STILL not seeing why it can't be good for users. I use WordPerfect at home, and the community college I was taking summer classes at uses Microsoft Office. I used hotmail to transfer files back and forth very flawlessly. The files I wrote at school opened up in my copy of WordPerfect just fine, and the files from home opened up in Word just fine.
The files don't work with eachother as nicely if you don't bother ever installing any of the file conversion filters that are part of the install packages. My copy of WP2000 Office Suite automatically installs like 20 of them, and you can select somewhere around at least a hundred more, basically opening up any word processor file type of the last 20 years or so.
WordPerfect has consistantly been easier to use every single release. For those wondering about the issues of compatability, it comes from one simple comparison: Word Perfect 10 Native Files (WP Office 2002), are based off the same design ushered in with WordPerfect 6 (older versions just ignore the newer stuff they don't know). Whereas the way an Office 6,7, 97, 2000, and XP file is stored is different between most of those releases. Microsoft has been using a brand new proprietary format for the storage of the files each year (sound familiar?).
WordPerfect is simply more powerful (Demonstrated by attempting to create a graph with two different Y-Axis (try it in Excell, then try it in Quattro Pro, it'll take you 4 minutes to do it in QP if you have never done it before), and my friends who many are around Seniors in High School, and are fully immersed in the computer age, would use Word Perfect if it weren't for the fact that word is so Universally accepted. Maybe finally it will give people who would really use WP a chance to see what they've been missing.
I built a car free city, I'm not sure if it could be done on the PC, but it could on the SNES version of the original sim city. You didn't need to build railroad stations at all (it gave you one as a bonus). You can use the map editor to create 100% green open space. As for the farm, you could do it in Simcity 3000. You can check out the tutorials at simcity.com to see how to make the farms. As for the firedepartment, Simcity 3000 also used Helicopters most of the time to put out fires from above instead of firetrucks. I wonder if you've played any of the games other than Simcity 2000, or maybe the original on PC, because it sounds like you haven't gotten to the newer versions. I don't know how much you can wish for a large list when your list has already been delivered.
I bought the book when I first saw it in stores (along with some of the other merchandise). I took and read through it over the course of a day (Ever notice how books/movies get worse every time you try and analyze them too much (AKA Jon Katz)?). Obviously there was some sarcasm and added stuff in this review, but I personally thought the story was quite good. Though I'll admit I didn't read the Phantom Meanace Novilization.
This isn't the author's first Star Wars story either, he also wrote Vector Prime, but no other starwars that I'm aware of.
Reading the book (this was also 2 weeks ago when Starwars was much further away), made me even MORE excited to see the movie. People say the book is better when the movie is adapted from the book, but in this case, no matter how awesome my imagination is, I can't wait to see the Lucas vision for the movie. From the clips of the movie I've seen, the different characters I've seen action figures made of, just re-inforces this is going to be much more enjoyable in every way than Phantom Meanace was. Especially with only 5 minutes or so of Jar-Jar.
BTW, for those who claimed he spoiled it about how Anikan turned to the darkside; I may not be anywhere near the biggest fan (haven't read most of the books and that), but I knew from the moment that they left Tattoine in the first movie that Anikan's turning would have to do with SPOILER WARNING FOR THOSE WHO DIDN'T READ IN THE LINES
his Mother. Of course I thought Jedi would have to do with the accidental death of her and he'd get pissed off at them, but this works as well.
Okay, here's one way to look at things. Multiplay has become what gaming is about noew days. Most computer games can't get away anymore without having some form of multiplay as part of it.
Now imagine a world where we have these handhelds that could allow us to play mutliplayer games. And I don't mean games like Quake, I mean games more along the line of Majestic. But think of a great spy game that you could be playing with millions around the world, over a Palm Pilot or something. The person standing next to you on the bus could be playing too, and even could be the one working against you. If nothing else, it'd create an excuse of all the paranoid people out there to really be paranoid. Now if you could get games like that over wireless PDA's, you'd see them take off quickly.
Okay, so who's gonna build that awesome wireless PDA and Phone spygame for me?
I don't see why such a big deal was made out of this. This is old news really. Most universities use cheating scripts to determine if something is wrong. My CSE 142 class at the University of Washington (that's the lowest CS class there) used one in the automated homework turnin. (Yes, for the first assignment, 90% of the class copied off eachother). It seems like it's only a big deal because it sounds like Georgia Tech is the last school on the planet to develop one or something.
Hrm, now if their cheating script looks like another schools cheating script, do they get in trouble for cheating?
You seem to be missing the bigger picture of the purpose of the list. The point of this list is NOT to gather names that people can CONFUSE with the Windows OS, but it's to gather that the term Windows is used widely enough in standard software names (excluding anything that has "for windows" at the end of it), to be able to coin the term Windows as a generic term used to describe an OS environment to the uneducated masses. This of course would be used by the same people who call all computers IBM's even to this day. It's just an attempt to make Windows be like Kleenex, just a name that anyone can use, and nobody holds the real right to.
Actually, the parent of this is wrong. Microsoft can sue them regardless of whether Lindows has done business in Washington. The difference is if Lindows has done business in Washington, the venue for the court case would be Washington State (Microsoft Territory). Whereas, if not, the venue would most likely be California (Since both Microsoft and Lindows have a business presence there)
Hey, I'm a washington State resident, so I can't contribute to the list at all:( I'm rather saddened by this, but I had a thought that I didn't know if mentioned on here yet.
Somebody should go through programs such as serials 2000 and Oscar 2001, and search for all the entries that are win-something and windows, and just sort them out. It'd create at least a couple hundred different additions, and would be the quickest. I'd do it, but I live in Washington, so:(
Seems like someone's got the model backwards. Last-mile transport for $40? ISP service (including customer service, billing, Internet egress at broadband rates, mail accounts, etc.) as low as $7? You can't even find outsourced customer service for less than $2.50/mo. per sub
The beauty is that the ISP's that are offering currently on the fiber (Yes, it is already up and running in limited test areas), are already Internet Service Providers to everything from Wireless internet to ISDN and dial-up access. They themselves are only paying $40/month (though during test period it's free) to have the fiber lit to their buildings, and don't need to make any great investment in equipment. Basically, they'll also be able to use the fiber as opposed to dedicated T-1 lines to reach the outside world, thus saving costs. Those that are already in business, all but one offers internet access over the fiber for $9 for the first Gigabit of bandwidth, and $4 for each additional Gigabit of bandwidth.
OK; obviously someone is confused. Basic rate phone for $10? Try closer to $20, then add all your taxes and charges and it's closer to $35+.
No *LEC would touch you for $7/mo, even if the last mile was free. They'd probably look for no less than $12-$15 given these conditions, and still have to tack on the taxes and other fees.
Another beauty of the fiber. We're skipping standard telephone and telecommunications companies. Most of the taxes imposed on that is currently for the use of the telephone lines. Can't be charged if you're skipping them. Actually, deals have already been inked out for the telephone services at around $10 a month (you really have to check out the Website to get a clearer understanding of how this is set up. And the $40 per month is closer to a administrative fee or something like that which you said. And as you know, right now, we pay dearly to buy the fiber optic line and the gigabit routers and everything that are going into this project.
And you think they'll let a region of broadband residential customers dump into their network? Free IP egress for broadband ISPs only running DNS? If they did, your telecom companies would have litigation fired in no time.
Maybe I'm misreading this, but where does a federal gov power entity get off buying an OC3 or more of resale bandwidth, even if they do resell it (a cost I didn't see mentioned)?
Point 1: NoahNet, is already set up, and is designed for use with the power grids. Point 2. Grant County PUD, the ones buying the fiber for our area, is owned and operated by the people of Grant County. We've been saving up and we're paying for this fiber ourselves. Like stated before, current ISP's are already ISP's in the first place, and are adding fiber service to their list of services. Washington State already passed laws allowing Public Utilities to provide telecommunications solutions to the people.
I don't know... the whole thing does sound rather collectivist and redistributionist. Stealing money from other people's pockets in far away states (taxpayers and ratepayers funding that Federal power program, for example) to get cheap Internet access? Pay your own way, thank you!
Again, we aren't stealing other people's money, as we are financing our own fiber. It helps when you have public utilities that use hydro-electric dams for power and don't have to worry about buying lots of energy on the open market. We've been saving for years, and are finally doing something with our money.
As for my question on setting up an ISP, I wasn't meaning as a big company, more of just providing the services for my neighbors around where I live.
OMG, we got slashdotted!:) Okay, as a resident of this wonderful county, and somebody who's considered posting this before (I didn't because my 56k modem only can connect at 24k or less due to really crappy phone lines out here), I'll point out the big deals with the Fiber service that we're getting (for those who don't want to take the time to navigate the slow ass site that the gcpud has right now (they can hook up fiber to homes, but can't hook it up to thier own servers, go figure).
The links to the homes will actually be gigabit links, shared off a community hub (a nice cisco gigabit switch basically. From there, there are specially designed meters that service as both the standard electric meter, and the fiber optic hub (10/100 Switch with Gigabit uplink).
The actual purpose of the fiber besides keeping meter readers from covering approximately 7000 square miles of county land to get every meter, is to actually provide a real telecommunication infastructure to an area where not every home has a standard phone line. Included purposes (content providers are being worked out right now) is to be able to provide:
Always on 100MBit/sec Internet
Digital Cable over fiber, both standard and HDTV streams, with pay-per-view, and abilities to pause live tv (ultimate tv without microsoft (yay)).
IP Phones, for expanded local telephone coverage and much cheaper long distance.
The money is being facilitated mostly by the GCPUD, as we have for many years, using hydro-electric power, been making extra money and storing it up. The other half is by the consumer (a $300 install fee), and of course the $40 a month just to light the fiber. Internet access by most companies will be between $7-15, with phone service for another $10, and cable for about the same. Meaning cable, broadband internet, and phone service for $75 combined.
As for the uplink, our county has several connections to Bonneville Power's NoahNet, which is federally owned. The Pud is basically leasing out the excess capacity of these lines they are installing.
Also, the project isn't proposed to be finished by 2005, much to the dismay of many people out here. Unlike other people's claims, we do know what technology is, we aren't Amish or anything like that.
This actually leaves me with two wonderful questions for the slashdot crowd to answer.
1) What would be the best way to set myself up as an ISP on this fiber connection, since people would mainly just be needing the DNS services (local ISP's are going to charge by the gigabit of bandwidth used). What setups would you recommend, (I already intend to use BSD) and what all would I need to do it successfully.
2) Since where I live is 4 years off, and I don't have the luxury of things like Cable modems, DSL, or the like, would it be prudent to make an investment in 2-way satalite internet for the time being, even though in 4 years, I won't need it anymore. Tell me what you think
MaverickUW
PS, sorry about the last copy, preview button wasn't working cause of stupid internet access
OMG, we got slashdotted!:)
Okay, as a resident of this wonderful county, and somebody who's considered posting this before (I didn't because my 56k modem only can connect at 24k or less due to really crappy phone lines out here), I'll point out the big deals with the Fiber service that we're getting (for those who don't want to take the time to navigate the slow ass site that the gcpud has right now (they can hook up fiber to homes, but can't hook it up to thier own servers, go figure).
The links to the homes will actually be gigabit links, shared off a community hub (a nice cisco gigabit switch basically. From there, there are specially designed meters that service as both the standard electric meter, and the fiber optic hub (10/100 Switch with Gigabit uplink).
The actual purpose of the fiber besides keeping meter readers from covering approximately 7000 square miles of county land to get every meter, is to actually provide a real telecommunication infastructure to an area where not every home has a standard phone line. Included purposes (content providers are being worked out right now) is to be able to provide:
Always on 100MBit/sec Internet
Digital Cable over fiber, both standard and HDTV streams, with pay-per-view, and abilities to pause live tv (ultimate tv without microsoft (yay)).
IP Phones, for expanded local telephone coverage and much cheaper long distance.
The money is being facilitated mostly by the GCPUD, as we have for many years, using hydro-electric power, been making extra money and storing it up. The other half is by the consumer (a $300 install fee), and of course the $40 a month just to light the fiber. Internet access by most companies will be between $7-15, with phone service for another $10, and cable for about the same. Meaning cable, broadband internet, and phone service for $75 combined.
As for the uplink, our county has several connections to Bonneville Power's NoahNet, which is federally owned. The Pud is basically leasing out the excess capacity of these lines they are installing.
Also, the project isn't proposed to be finished by 2005, much to the dismay of many people out here. Unlike other people's claims, we do know what technology is, we aren't Amish or anything like that.
This actually leaves me with two wonderful questions for the slashdot crowd to answer.
1) What would be the best way to set myself up as an ISP on this fiber connection, since people would mainly just be needing the DNS services (local ISP's are going to charge by the gigabit of bandwidth used). What setups would you recommend, (I already intend to use BSD) and what all would I need to do it successfully.
2) Since where I live is 4 years off, and I don't have the luxury of things like Cable modems, DSL, or the like, would it be prudent to make an investment in 2-way satalite internet for the time being, even though in 4 years, I won't need it anymore. Tell me what you think
MaverickUW
Even though it isn't truly the 21st century, I say welcome to it. As an undergraduate at the U of Washington, I can definitely say this is both exciting and well deserved of our school. Nanotech is such a broad and diverse field that I don't think simultaneous degrees in one of 9 other departments will be enough truly to show all the potential a program like this could have.
I can tell you that this isn't merely a grab for attention as some have claimed in their slashdot responses, but is more a step in the right direction. What better school than the University of Washington, who already receives more research dollars than every other public school in the country, and receives the second most overall. A degree in nanotech will create an atmosphere where more and more researchers will soon be able to dedicate their potential and their academic prowress towards moving in the right direction for a true start.
Either way, it will still be many years before anyone could truly guage the effectiveness of this program, but if the program succeedes, you can guarantee that they Ivy League Schools will be all over it.
Um dude, the K6+ line is what's going to bring the Super Socket 7 line to what it's deserved for a long time. The response times of the new chips will make it comparable to the Celeron chips.
You also have to note that MegaHertz are a very very bad way to measure chip speeds. ALL Celerons are currently still on a 66MHz bus, which severely limites their capiabilities to be a high end chip. Celerons are also more expensive since all they are is a bus speed locked P3 with 3/4 of the Cache disabled (at least the newest ones are).
With the K6-2+ and K6-3+ chips out now, which eliminate many of the previous problems associated with the K6-2 line. If you check out Tom's Hardware, you notice that they say a computer upgraded with these chips can now perform like a modern PC. With 128k of L2 cache integrated onto the chip at full speed, it takes the place of the celeron. And those manufacturers still smart enough to put cache on motherboards, can take the same advantage of the K6-3 Processors, and have up to 2MB of L3 Cache. It still has all the same MMX support, and 3DNow! Support, and takes up even less power at max than the traditional K6-2 and K6-3 chips took.
Another thing that's great. This processor starts to move to what the Crusoe processor will be able to do, VARYING CLOCK SPEEDS DURING OPERATION. It's like overclocking a chip automatcially while you're working. And speaking of Overclocking. Guess what, the K6-2+ chips can overclock, another rarity of the line. I'd also suggest you take a look at the benchmarks Tom's Harware Provides, I think you'll notice that Not only does the K6-2+ out perform the standard K6-2 at 500MHz, but it also scores 1 point higher than the CELERON 500! Though for game playing it still lags behind.
So let's go over this: It's cheap, not much more than a normal K6-2 processor, it's faster, it's overclockable, it has much better performance. AMD has another new winner with this. BTW, how can this round of Mobile Computer might go to Intel. AMD controls 60% of the laptop chip market right now. Last I checked, that would only give intel at most 40, if not counting any competitors.
Please note, Duron's will prolly not see the notebook market for a while, since they use massivce amounts of power compared to the P3.
I took a look at the article about Metallica's new Napster Proof CD. I have to say Metallica is really trying to make everybody pissed at them, aren't they? I mean, a 19 minute interview, and 55 minute song, at 128k encoding coming out to 56MB+. First things first, I have friends who made a Dance Dance Revolution (a great game for those who don't know about it) mega-mix, with all the songs together, totaling in at 109MB. While I was at school with my 10MBit ethernet connection, we saw several people, even one with a 56k modem attempting to download this massive file, so if people really want Metallica's song, they'll download it, or encode it at 96k to cut down the file size. Another thing that could easily be done, and I've done this to MP3's that some company has added their own stuff into it to identify where you got the MP3 from, you can convert the damn MP3 to wave, using many programs, including Music Match Jukebox, then use a wave editor, including the sound recorder that comes with windows, to edit it. If I had a copy of the CD, and wanted to make sure that people could get the song easily, I'd just allow 10 simultaneous downloads on napster, split the 56MB file into 10 5.6MB sections, and let people download the parts, and tell them how to put it back together if they wanted, or they could leave it seperated. Metallica is really going to screw themselves with this one. Let's see, no radio play, no music video, and no chance for concert play. Wow, who's really gonna care about a song like that when a lot of people who buy CD's, only buy them for a few songs. Long live the MP3 Revolution
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Bullshit. You're saying intel doesn't have problems? The same article posted said that intel is delaying 633 and 667 MHz Celerons due to not enough production capacity. Intel had such a P3 shortage last year that the top 10 computer producers (Gateway, Dell, etc.) lost a load of money. Gateway lost a quarter of a billion dollars due to intel. Everybody is signing with AMD, except for Dell. And with the new chipset out for the Athlon, more people want to turn to it since it outdoes the P3 in many respects. The only way this is a good thing is if you intel-lovers are scared that AMD is actually a threat to your dominance of the market. Sorry intel-lovers, it's happening, and the threat is real
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Well, not many people may realize it, but the UW has been working on a newer version of Pine then what was just released. Many schools have their own webmail program (UW had this really bad one for a while), but UW has been developing what it calls Webpine for a long time now accessable at webpine.washington.edu if you're a UW student (links to find out more are on the page. It works pretty well, when accessing my old UW email account, I generally log into webpine (I don't have shell access anymore so normal pine is out the window). Given time, and ways to speed the process up for those of us unfortunate enough to be on dialup (broadband isn't always the fastest for some parts of it either), and this could be really good. It's written at least partially in tcl.
Um, informative is wrong on this. Nowhere in any of the information (including Nintendo's Press releases) does it say anything about this. He is right that it is essentially a boot disk that comes with the GBA adaptor, but it does not say that the games set to link to the system will work correctly. It's actually more likely they wont work correctly because the gamecube game is programmed to output and input data through the controller port, not the high speed port on the bottom of the cube which this plugs into.
Okay, first off, Paramount gives Trek a lot of freedom to not do the 'Everything is fine at the end of the day' thing. For those who payed attention to DS9 starting with the episode "Jem'Hadar," you'll notice DS9 had great freedom to not do the everything is fine at the end of the day. I mean, that episode ended up with the good guys (the Federation), barely escaping with their lives (not counting the Odysssey getting rammed by a ship while it was retreating). The dominion war was a great example of this. Of course in the end it managed to work out, but it took 2 whole seasons to finally resolve once the combat began. Now if that's not waiting a little longer than the end of the day, I don't know what is.
Sadly I'll mention voyager. Somehow a starship winding trapped 70 years away from Federation space doesn't exactly seem completely wrapped up at the end of the day...
The Ferengi in Enterprise: Who says history records them as the Ferengi?
Okay, the last thing I have to mention is those few comments about how Archer and company are out there doing more damage in the end. As we've already seen, the Andorians, who are later allies, but look to be the best of the antagonists in the series. As people pointed out with the temporal cold war thing, the best villans are those who are your friends, or who are goodguys (think about it, in the same way Robin Hood was a Villan). The Andorians have already shown both sides of this, and the series may best be served by showing the continued encounters with the Andorians, and how their anger with the vulcans was eventually resolved to the point that they all became allies and made the Federation... Sure it sounds like Voyager and the Borg, or TOS and the Klingons, but in this case we know that everybody eventually gets along, but how these two races which have very hostile parts to them become this way could be what truly develops this show into some of the best trek.
I was afraid of Enterprise when I heard Bakula was going to be captain (I loved Quantum Leap, but it just didn't seem right). But I watched anyways, and have decided I like the show, for maybe different reasons then the past series, but I see a lot of potential there. I know you'll say TPTB will screw it up (and I'm sure to some extent they will), but I'm still interested in seeing where it goes from here.
The files don't work with eachother as nicely if you don't bother ever installing any of the file conversion filters that are part of the install packages. My copy of WP2000 Office Suite automatically installs like 20 of them, and you can select somewhere around at least a hundred more, basically opening up any word processor file type of the last 20 years or so.
WordPerfect has consistantly been easier to use every single release. For those wondering about the issues of compatability, it comes from one simple comparison: Word Perfect 10 Native Files (WP Office 2002), are based off the same design ushered in with WordPerfect 6 (older versions just ignore the newer stuff they don't know). Whereas the way an Office 6,7, 97, 2000, and XP file is stored is different between most of those releases. Microsoft has been using a brand new proprietary format for the storage of the files each year (sound familiar?).
WordPerfect is simply more powerful (Demonstrated by attempting to create a graph with two different Y-Axis (try it in Excell, then try it in Quattro Pro, it'll take you 4 minutes to do it in QP if you have never done it before), and my friends who many are around Seniors in High School, and are fully immersed in the computer age, would use Word Perfect if it weren't for the fact that word is so Universally accepted. Maybe finally it will give people who would really use WP a chance to see what they've been missing.
I built a car free city, I'm not sure if it could be done on the PC, but it could on the SNES version of the original sim city. You didn't need to build railroad stations at all (it gave you one as a bonus). You can use the map editor to create 100% green open space. As for the farm, you could do it in Simcity 3000. You can check out the tutorials at simcity.com to see how to make the farms. As for the firedepartment, Simcity 3000 also used Helicopters most of the time to put out fires from above instead of firetrucks. I wonder if you've played any of the games other than Simcity 2000, or maybe the original on PC, because it sounds like you haven't gotten to the newer versions. I don't know how much you can wish for a large list when your list has already been delivered.
his Mother. Of course I thought Jedi would have to do with the accidental death of her and he'd get pissed off at them, but this works as well.
Okay, here's one way to look at things. Multiplay has become what gaming is about noew days. Most computer games can't get away anymore without having some form of multiplay as part of it.
Now imagine a world where we have these handhelds that could allow us to play mutliplayer games. And I don't mean games like Quake, I mean games more along the line of Majestic. But think of a great spy game that you could be playing with millions around the world, over a Palm Pilot or something. The person standing next to you on the bus could be playing too, and even could be the one working against you. If nothing else, it'd create an excuse of all the paranoid people out there to really be paranoid. Now if you could get games like that over wireless PDA's, you'd see them take off quickly.
Okay, so who's gonna build that awesome wireless PDA and Phone spygame for me?
I don't see why such a big deal was made out of this. This is old news really. Most universities use cheating scripts to determine if something is wrong. My CSE 142 class at the University of Washington (that's the lowest CS class there) used one in the automated homework turnin. (Yes, for the first assignment, 90% of the class copied off eachother). It seems like it's only a big deal because it sounds like Georgia Tech is the last school on the planet to develop one or something.
Hrm, now if their cheating script looks like another schools cheating script, do they get in trouble for cheating?
You seem to be missing the bigger picture of the purpose of the list. The point of this list is NOT to gather names that people can CONFUSE with the Windows OS, but it's to gather that the term Windows is used widely enough in standard software names (excluding anything that has "for windows" at the end of it), to be able to coin the term Windows as a generic term used to describe an OS environment to the uneducated masses. This of course would be used by the same people who call all computers IBM's even to this day. It's just an attempt to make Windows be like Kleenex, just a name that anyone can use, and nobody holds the real right to.
Actually, the parent of this is wrong. Microsoft can sue them regardless of whether Lindows has done business in Washington. The difference is if Lindows has done business in Washington, the venue for the court case would be Washington State (Microsoft Territory). Whereas, if not, the venue would most likely be California (Since both Microsoft and Lindows have a business presence there)
Hey spectecjr...
Why don't YOU check their website and the form page for submitting names? Because I've just checked, and I've seen 20
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Hey, I'm a washington State resident, so I can't contribute to the list at all :( I'm rather saddened by this, but I had a thought that I didn't know if mentioned on here yet.
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Somebody should go through programs such as serials 2000 and Oscar 2001, and search for all the entries that are win-something and windows, and just sort them out. It'd create at least a couple hundred different additions, and would be the quickest. I'd do it, but I live in Washington, so
The beauty is that the ISP's that are offering currently on the fiber (Yes, it is already up and running in limited test areas), are already Internet Service Providers to everything from Wireless internet to ISDN and dial-up access. They themselves are only paying $40/month (though during test period it's free) to have the fiber lit to their buildings, and don't need to make any great investment in equipment. Basically, they'll also be able to use the fiber as opposed to dedicated T-1 lines to reach the outside world, thus saving costs. Those that are already in business, all but one offers internet access over the fiber for $9 for the first Gigabit of bandwidth, and $4 for each additional Gigabit of bandwidth.
OK; obviously someone is confused. Basic rate phone for $10? Try closer to $20, then add all your taxes and charges and it's closer to $35+. No *LEC would touch you for $7/mo, even if the last mile was free. They'd probably look for no less than $12-$15 given these conditions, and still have to tack on the taxes and other fees.
Another beauty of the fiber. We're skipping standard telephone and telecommunications companies. Most of the taxes imposed on that is currently for the use of the telephone lines. Can't be charged if you're skipping them. Actually, deals have already been inked out for the telephone services at around $10 a month (you really have to check out the Website to get a clearer understanding of how this is set up. And the $40 per month is closer to a administrative fee or something like that which you said. And as you know, right now, we pay dearly to buy the fiber optic line and the gigabit routers and everything that are going into this project.
And you think they'll let a region of broadband residential customers dump into their network? Free IP egress for broadband ISPs only running DNS? If they did, your telecom companies would have litigation fired in no time. Maybe I'm misreading this, but where does a federal gov power entity get off buying an OC3 or more of resale bandwidth, even if they do resell it (a cost I didn't see mentioned)?
Point 1: NoahNet, is already set up, and is designed for use with the power grids. Point 2. Grant County PUD, the ones buying the fiber for our area, is owned and operated by the people of Grant County. We've been saving up and we're paying for this fiber ourselves. Like stated before, current ISP's are already ISP's in the first place, and are adding fiber service to their list of services. Washington State already passed laws allowing Public Utilities to provide telecommunications solutions to the people.
I don't know... the whole thing does sound rather collectivist and redistributionist. Stealing money from other people's pockets in far away states (taxpayers and ratepayers funding that Federal power program, for example) to get cheap Internet access? Pay your own way, thank you!
Again, we aren't stealing other people's money, as we are financing our own fiber. It helps when you have public utilities that use hydro-electric dams for power and don't have to worry about buying lots of energy on the open market. We've been saving for years, and are finally doing something with our money.
As for my question on setting up an ISP, I wasn't meaning as a big company, more of just providing the services for my neighbors around where I live.
MaverickUW
The links to the homes will actually be gigabit links, shared off a community hub (a nice cisco gigabit switch basically. From there, there are specially designed meters that service as both the standard electric meter, and the fiber optic hub (10/100 Switch with Gigabit uplink).
The actual purpose of the fiber besides keeping meter readers from covering approximately 7000 square miles of county land to get every meter, is to actually provide a real telecommunication infastructure to an area where not every home has a standard phone line. Included purposes (content providers are being worked out right now) is to be able to provide:
Always on 100MBit/sec Internet
Digital Cable over fiber, both standard and HDTV streams, with pay-per-view, and abilities to pause live tv (ultimate tv without microsoft (yay)).
IP Phones, for expanded local telephone coverage and much cheaper long distance.
The money is being facilitated mostly by the GCPUD, as we have for many years, using hydro-electric power, been making extra money and storing it up. The other half is by the consumer (a $300 install fee), and of course the $40 a month just to light the fiber. Internet access by most companies will be between $7-15, with phone service for another $10, and cable for about the same. Meaning cable, broadband internet, and phone service for $75 combined.
As for the uplink, our county has several connections to Bonneville Power's NoahNet, which is federally owned. The Pud is basically leasing out the excess capacity of these lines they are installing.
Also, the project isn't proposed to be finished by 2005, much to the dismay of many people out here. Unlike other people's claims, we do know what technology is, we aren't Amish or anything like that.
This actually leaves me with two wonderful questions for the slashdot crowd to answer.
1) What would be the best way to set myself up as an ISP on this fiber connection, since people would mainly just be needing the DNS services (local ISP's are going to charge by the gigabit of bandwidth used). What setups would you recommend, (I already intend to use BSD) and what all would I need to do it successfully.
2) Since where I live is 4 years off, and I don't have the luxury of things like Cable modems, DSL, or the like, would it be prudent to make an investment in 2-way satalite internet for the time being, even though in 4 years, I won't need it anymore. Tell me what you think
MaverickUW
PS, sorry about the last copy, preview button wasn't working cause of stupid internet access
OMG, we got slashdotted! :)
Okay, as a resident of this wonderful county, and somebody who's considered posting this before (I didn't because my 56k modem only can connect at 24k or less due to really crappy phone lines out here), I'll point out the big deals with the Fiber service that we're getting (for those who don't want to take the time to navigate the slow ass site that the gcpud has right now (they can hook up fiber to homes, but can't hook it up to thier own servers, go figure).
The links to the homes will actually be gigabit links, shared off a community hub (a nice cisco gigabit switch basically. From there, there are specially designed meters that service as both the standard electric meter, and the fiber optic hub (10/100 Switch with Gigabit uplink).
The actual purpose of the fiber besides keeping meter readers from covering approximately 7000 square miles of county land to get every meter, is to actually provide a real telecommunication infastructure to an area where not every home has a standard phone line. Included purposes (content providers are being worked out right now) is to be able to provide:
Always on 100MBit/sec Internet
Digital Cable over fiber, both standard and HDTV streams, with pay-per-view, and abilities to pause live tv (ultimate tv without microsoft (yay)).
IP Phones, for expanded local telephone coverage and much cheaper long distance.
The money is being facilitated mostly by the GCPUD, as we have for many years, using hydro-electric power, been making extra money and storing it up. The other half is by the consumer (a $300 install fee), and of course the $40 a month just to light the fiber. Internet access by most companies will be between $7-15, with phone service for another $10, and cable for about the same. Meaning cable, broadband internet, and phone service for $75 combined.
As for the uplink, our county has several connections to Bonneville Power's NoahNet, which is federally owned. The Pud is basically leasing out the excess capacity of these lines they are installing.
Also, the project isn't proposed to be finished by 2005, much to the dismay of many people out here. Unlike other people's claims, we do know what technology is, we aren't Amish or anything like that.
This actually leaves me with two wonderful questions for the slashdot crowd to answer.
1) What would be the best way to set myself up as an ISP on this fiber connection, since people would mainly just be needing the DNS services (local ISP's are going to charge by the gigabit of bandwidth used). What setups would you recommend, (I already intend to use BSD) and what all would I need to do it successfully.
2) Since where I live is 4 years off, and I don't have the luxury of things like Cable modems, DSL, or the like, would it be prudent to make an investment in 2-way satalite internet for the time being, even though in 4 years, I won't need it anymore. Tell me what you think
MaverickUW
I can tell you that this isn't merely a grab for attention as some have claimed in their slashdot responses, but is more a step in the right direction. What better school than the University of Washington, who already receives more research dollars than every other public school in the country, and receives the second most overall. A degree in nanotech will create an atmosphere where more and more researchers will soon be able to dedicate their potential and their academic prowress towards moving in the right direction for a true start.
Either way, it will still be many years before anyone could truly guage the effectiveness of this program, but if the program succeedes, you can guarantee that they Ivy League Schools will be all over it.
The future is here, and boy will it be grand.
You also have to note that MegaHertz are a very very bad way to measure chip speeds. ALL Celerons are currently still on a 66MHz bus, which severely limites their capiabilities to be a high end chip. Celerons are also more expensive since all they are is a bus speed locked P3 with 3/4 of the Cache disabled (at least the newest ones are).
With the K6-2+ and K6-3+ chips out now, which eliminate many of the previous problems associated with the K6-2 line. If you check out Tom's Hardware, you notice that they say a computer upgraded with these chips can now perform like a modern PC. With 128k of L2 cache integrated onto the chip at full speed, it takes the place of the celeron. And those manufacturers still smart enough to put cache on motherboards, can take the same advantage of the K6-3 Processors, and have up to 2MB of L3 Cache. It still has all the same MMX support, and 3DNow! Support, and takes up even less power at max than the traditional K6-2 and K6-3 chips took.
Another thing that's great. This processor starts to move to what the Crusoe processor will be able to do, VARYING CLOCK SPEEDS DURING OPERATION. It's like overclocking a chip automatcially while you're working. And speaking of Overclocking. Guess what, the K6-2+ chips can overclock, another rarity of the line. I'd also suggest you take a look at the benchmarks Tom's Harware Provides, I think you'll notice that Not only does the K6-2+ out perform the standard K6-2 at 500MHz, but it also scores 1 point higher than the CELERON 500! Though for game playing it still lags behind.
So let's go over this: It's cheap, not much more than a normal K6-2 processor, it's faster, it's overclockable, it has much better performance. AMD has another new winner with this. BTW, how can this round of Mobile Computer might go to Intel. AMD controls 60% of the laptop chip market right now. Last I checked, that would only give intel at most 40, if not counting any competitors.
Please note, Duron's will prolly not see the notebook market for a while, since they use massivce amounts of power compared to the P3.
I took a look at the article about Metallica's new Napster Proof CD. I have to say Metallica is really trying to make everybody pissed at them, aren't they? I mean, a 19 minute interview, and 55 minute song, at 128k encoding coming out to 56MB+. First things first, I have friends who made a Dance Dance Revolution (a great game for those who don't know about it) mega-mix, with all the songs together, totaling in at 109MB. While I was at school with my 10MBit ethernet connection, we saw several people, even one with a 56k modem attempting to download this massive file, so if people really want Metallica's song, they'll download it, or encode it at 96k to cut down the file size. Another thing that could easily be done, and I've done this to MP3's that some company has added their own stuff into it to identify where you got the MP3 from, you can convert the damn MP3 to wave, using many programs, including Music Match Jukebox, then use a wave editor, including the sound recorder that comes with windows, to edit it. If I had a copy of the CD, and wanted to make sure that people could get the song easily, I'd just allow 10 simultaneous downloads on napster, split the 56MB file into 10 5.6MB sections, and let people download the parts, and tell them how to put it back together if they wanted, or they could leave it seperated. Metallica is really going to screw themselves with this one. Let's see, no radio play, no music video, and no chance for concert play. Wow, who's really gonna care about a song like that when a lot of people who buy CD's, only buy them for a few songs. Long live the MP3 Revolution
Bullshit. You're saying intel doesn't have problems? The same article posted said that intel is delaying 633 and 667 MHz Celerons due to not enough production capacity. Intel had such a P3 shortage last year that the top 10 computer producers (Gateway, Dell, etc.) lost a load of money. Gateway lost a quarter of a billion dollars due to intel. Everybody is signing with AMD, except for Dell. And with the new chipset out for the Athlon, more people want to turn to it since it outdoes the P3 in many respects. The only way this is a good thing is if you intel-lovers are scared that AMD is actually a threat to your dominance of the market. Sorry intel-lovers, it's happening, and the threat is real