It's at least 9 clicks. You open the browser then what? Then the "desired information from your list". That's another click. And another click for the "next thing on the list" then another and another and another etc etc.
You're browser does show the information that Dashboard does, but not all at once in one place where you can see everything on one page. Where is the "one click" web page that has everthing on that list...AND can be added to with other things? Some come close, this is for sure, but not EVERYTHING that I want. I multitask, I like taking in a bunch of things at once. I want one place where I can see the weather/5 day forcast, my stocks, the time, news headlines, gas prices in my area (which is important to me due to the traveling I do everyday), memory usage, CPU usage, network stats, uptimes, FedEx tracking, BBC etc etc. All at once place.
No, not yahoo. they have a lot but not everything I need. I hit F12 and BAM there's everything. Again, you can NOT click one button on the quickstart bar and open everything at once. You have to click around.
But hey, if that's your preference, great! I happen to like Dashboard better as do many others. The OS/GUI can't be everything to everyone obviously. And it's not a "shock" about the browser since I live on one practically. I just don't like breaking my surfing just to go to 4 or 5 different web sites to just check on things when F12 is a button push away, then another to go back to what I was doing.
Oh sure, I used to use the browser for everything too, having like 20 tabs open for many things. But this cuts down BIG time on the clutter. Again, that's my preference. Do things the way you want, I do things the way I want...but don't you DARE call me wrong for the way I do them, as I don't call you wrong. There is not right/wrong with this shit.
which click shows me all these things on one web page again? One web page, not multiple ones...one where I can see everything at once? Hmmm? Give me a link and I'll go there. thanks.
Actually, and it's been a long time for me here, but I think Warp 1 = speed of light and the other warps went up from that exponentially. So warp 9.9 wasn't 9.9 times faster than the speed of light. It was many many many times greater than that...which is how they were able to zip around from one end of the quadrant to the other in a manner of days.
And of course, they explained away relativity effects because they were in a "warp bubble" when at warp speed...that is if they weren't trapped on the Holodeck or sent back in time yet again.
But, you say that like it's a bad thing. I see it as a good thing.
Companies can't win. People complain all the time about how a company doesn't "support developers or even care about their platform". But when a company does something like this in "lending a hand" people say it's just them wanting more money instead of supporting Open Source etc etc. I mean, you just can't win!
yes, every webpage you browse has this info..one click away. But it's easier to just hit F12 and have all that info in one place at one time and that's it. And that's what we're talking about, ease of use. One button push on OSX, with XP it's at least 9 mouse clicks and 3 button pushes. But hey, you don't HAVE to use Dashboard if you don't want and if you really want to use the browser go ahead...whatever floats your boat.
You can kill Explorer and have it come back up. No, it doesn't automatically come back up, but from the Windows Task Manager you can run a program, and just run explorer.exe to get it back up.
Program what through the GUI? WTF are you talking about? It takes a few clicks to set up this stuff and then it's there until you change it. Hello? What programming do you have to do?
Nothing egotistical about it. But hey, just my opinion and like the other guys, it really means nothing to anyone other than myself.
You know, I first started watching this and I was thinking it was lame and a little about what you say is that they "sold out"...
But then I continued watching it and all of a sudden, a smile crossed my face...then when it got to Pepe the shrimp I actually had some pretty funny things. "Miss Congenitalia 2". lol.
Anyway, as jaded and cynical as I think I am, some things actually break though and make me laugh. To paraphrase Mr. Burns "I don't know much about art, but I know what I hate...and I don't hate this".
Lol, sorry just saying that it's a stupid point doesn't make it so.
Yes, I personally need those different sources of info at the same time in one place at one time. That's me. Again, just because YOU don't need it doesn't mean that I and others out there don't.
You seem to think that just because you personally don't need Dashboard or other things NOBODY should need that it. How arrogant of you. Who the fuck are you to tell me what I need and don't need?
NetInfo. ooops. (and you say I don't know what I'm talking about?)
If your trying to compare NetInfo to the registry of Windows then yeah, you don't know what you're talking about.
You haven't demonstrated any knowledge regarding both platforms, so I'll be merciful and leave you be now. But I know that someone like you just can't leave well-enough-alone and come back for more cause you'll want the last word.
The Steve Capps' Finder delivered with the original 128K Mac *still* blows away today's Finder in terms of elegance, responsiveness and overall usability.
I think the UI in OSX is far more elegant and "blows away" the original Mac 128k. You see, that's an opinion, just like your statement above is an opinion. But will you also be one of those people that seems to think this opinion of yours is fact and show some website that also says that the original Finder was better because blah blah blah? Guess what, that's opinion also. There are people that think that a command-line interface is far more elegant than either one. Who's right, who's wrong? Opinion, remember?
You seem to blur the line between these two and you also seem to be very defensive. It's okay dude...just relax. You don't like the GUI, then don't use it. Or no no...here's a better option that you've used before: code a better GUI yourself!
What web page has on one page where you don't have to go anywhere else, just glance at it and see:
1.gas prices in your area 2.Google maps that stays there to view a route, area etc etc. 3.animated weather maps from weather.com 4.Search for and view wikipedia articles, complete with pictures 5.view memory usage, CPU usage, network stats, uptimes, load averages of your computer 6.Shows significant historical events that took place on the current day or any selected day 7.Quickily search All Recipes.com from your Dashboard 8.See what's being shown on US TV right now 9.Play all the BBC's national radio streams from one minimal place 10.Track you packages from UPS/FedX
Those are just ten...shall I go on? Again, what single web page can do all these things at a glance?
No, yahoo can't. Google doesn't. And of course the ol "code it yourself" is such a weak argument it's not even worth mentioning. Sure, you can find all this stuff on the web, but you'd have to do a lot of clicking around where as these widgets float in the background not even taking up the same memory space COMBINED as a browser would. Dashboard makes it easy to find all these things that you want in a flash, in one place.
Got anything else? You don't seem to be making your argument. At least not to me.
Wow, there's one web page out there that allows a browser to do all the things that a widget does...at a glance? I mean, you go to the widgets and BAM you see everything on one desktop all in one place and at a glance you see or can use specific things.
Didn't know an ordinary browser does this too! Which one? Where do I find that feature at? Again, which browser/web page has all this stuff all at the same time? You seem to know! Tell us oh wise one!
Also, the entire "Funniest Home Videos" infrastructure would collapse as there would be no more "man getting hit by pinata bat in the groin" or "skateboarder misses rail and falls on his nuts".
What an idiotic system. You would have thought by now they would have built better humans to where males produce sperm INSIDE the body at the normal temperature.
Let me guess: all Harlen Ellison talks about is how great a writer he is and how much better his script for "City on the Edge of Forever" was than the one filmed for Star Trek.
Am I right? I mean, that's ALL this guy talks about.
this is true...I never read him except for laughs every now and then. But one writer out of the many that wrote for it doesn't make or break a magazine.
I remember reading about the "Thinking Machines Inc" and their computer with it's processors wired in a "Boolean N Cube" config...which was kinda new at the time. I also remember reading about Pixar and it's new Renderman specifications and RIB files and it's shader language. All pretty cool stuff at the time. This was in the days before the commercial Internet...when only the universities and government had it. You know...the good ol days.
absolutely...Leeroy should be there. Even though the video is an obvious fake...I mean, even when they ran into the rookery THEY were the ones running around hitting every egg they could step on spawning even more dragonlings. Also, the anger everyone had for Leeroy running in like that is totally out of whack..I mean, it's what, a 5 minute run back to your corpse? It's not like you lost anything.
Also, if some idiot ran in there by himself, you can bet all of us would just sit back and watch him die...being perfectly safe out in the hall. Also, what was with the "let me crunch some numbers here...I give us a 33% chance"...not even an UBER nerd would do something like that. I mean, come on...
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It's at least 9 clicks. You open the browser then what? Then the "desired information from your list". That's another click. And another click for the "next thing on the list" then another and another and another etc etc.
You're browser does show the information that Dashboard does, but not all at once in one place where you can see everything on one page. Where is the "one click" web page that has everthing on that list...AND can be added to with other things? Some come close, this is for sure, but not EVERYTHING that I want. I multitask, I like taking in a bunch of things at once. I want one place where I can see the weather/5 day forcast, my stocks, the time, news headlines, gas prices in my area (which is important to me due to the traveling I do everyday), memory usage, CPU usage, network stats, uptimes, FedEx tracking, BBC etc etc. All at once place.
No, not yahoo. they have a lot but not everything I need. I hit F12 and BAM there's everything. Again, you can NOT click one button on the quickstart bar and open everything at once. You have to click around.
But hey, if that's your preference, great! I happen to like Dashboard better as do many others. The OS/GUI can't be everything to everyone obviously. And it's not a "shock" about the browser since I live on one practically. I just don't like breaking my surfing just to go to 4 or 5 different web sites to just check on things when F12 is a button push away, then another to go back to what I was doing.
Oh sure, I used to use the browser for everything too, having like 20 tabs open for many things. But this cuts down BIG time on the clutter. Again, that's my preference. Do things the way you want, I do things the way I want...but don't you DARE call me wrong for the way I do them, as I don't call you wrong. There is not right/wrong with this shit.
cool, so it's one click away...
which click shows me all these things on one web page again? One web page, not multiple ones...one where I can see everything at once? Hmmm? Give me a link and I'll go there. thanks.
Actually, and it's been a long time for me here, but I think Warp 1 = speed of light and the other warps went up from that exponentially. So warp 9.9 wasn't 9.9 times faster than the speed of light. It was many many many times greater than that...which is how they were able to zip around from one end of the quadrant to the other in a manner of days.
And of course, they explained away relativity effects because they were in a "warp bubble" when at warp speed...that is if they weren't trapped on the Holodeck or sent back in time yet again.
But, you say that like it's a bad thing. I see it as a good thing.
Companies can't win. People complain all the time about how a company doesn't "support developers or even care about their platform". But when a company does something like this in "lending a hand" people say it's just them wanting more money instead of supporting Open Source etc etc. I mean, you just can't win!
Wait until I start the lawsuits to my ownership of "is" and "the"!
Hey, if this whack-job can do it why can't I? Or does someone own the word "I"?
yes, every webpage you browse has this info..one click away. But it's easier to just hit F12 and have all that info in one place at one time and that's it. And that's what we're talking about, ease of use. One button push on OSX, with XP it's at least 9 mouse clicks and 3 button pushes. But hey, you don't HAVE to use Dashboard if you don't want and if you really want to use the browser go ahead...whatever floats your boat.
You can kill Explorer and have it come back up. No, it doesn't automatically come back up, but from the Windows Task Manager you can run a program, and just run explorer.exe to get it back up.
Then you click it away with one button. Bam..it's gone.
Program what through the GUI? WTF are you talking about? It takes a few clicks to set up this stuff and then it's there until you change it. Hello? What programming do you have to do?
Nothing egotistical about it. But hey, just my opinion and like the other guys, it really means nothing to anyone other than myself.
You know, I first started watching this and I was thinking it was lame and a little about what you say is that they "sold out"...
But then I continued watching it and all of a sudden, a smile crossed my face...then when it got to Pepe the shrimp I actually had some pretty funny things. "Miss Congenitalia 2". lol.
Anyway, as jaded and cynical as I think I am, some things actually break though and make me laugh. To paraphrase Mr. Burns "I don't know much about art, but I know what I hate...and I don't hate this".
Lol, sorry just saying that it's a stupid point doesn't make it so.
Yes, I personally need those different sources of info at the same time in one place at one time. That's me. Again, just because YOU don't need it doesn't mean that I and others out there don't.
You seem to think that just because you personally don't need Dashboard or other things NOBODY should need that it. How arrogant of you. Who the fuck are you to tell me what I need and don't need?
NetInfo. ooops. (and you say I don't know what I'm talking about?)
If your trying to compare NetInfo to the registry of Windows then yeah, you don't know what you're talking about.
You haven't demonstrated any knowledge regarding both platforms, so I'll be merciful and leave you be now. But I know that someone like you just can't leave well-enough-alone and come back for more cause you'll want the last word.
The Steve Capps' Finder delivered with the original 128K Mac *still* blows away today's Finder in terms of elegance, responsiveness and overall usability.
I think the UI in OSX is far more elegant and "blows away" the original Mac 128k. You see, that's an opinion, just like your statement above is an opinion. But will you also be one of those people that seems to think this opinion of yours is fact and show some website that also says that the original Finder was better because blah blah blah? Guess what, that's opinion also. There are people that think that a command-line interface is far more elegant than either one. Who's right, who's wrong? Opinion, remember?
You seem to blur the line between these two and you also seem to be very defensive. It's okay dude...just relax. You don't like the GUI, then don't use it. Or no no...here's a better option that you've used before: code a better GUI yourself!
What web page has on one page where you don't have to go anywhere else, just glance at it and see:
1.gas prices in your area
2.Google maps that stays there to view a route, area etc etc.
3.animated weather maps from weather.com
4.Search for and view wikipedia articles, complete with pictures
5.view memory usage, CPU usage, network stats, uptimes, load averages of your computer
6.Shows significant historical events that took place on the current day or any selected day
7.Quickily search All Recipes.com from your Dashboard
8.See what's being shown on US TV right now
9.Play all the BBC's national radio streams from one minimal place
10.Track you packages from UPS/FedX
Those are just ten...shall I go on? Again, what single web page can do all these things at a glance?
No, yahoo can't. Google doesn't. And of course the ol "code it yourself" is such a weak argument it's not even worth mentioning. Sure, you can find all this stuff on the web, but you'd have to do a lot of clicking around where as these widgets float in the background not even taking up the same memory space COMBINED as a browser would. Dashboard makes it easy to find all these things that you want in a flash, in one place.
Got anything else? You don't seem to be making your argument. At least not to me.
Wow, there's one web page out there that allows a browser to do all the things that a widget does...at a glance? I mean, you go to the widgets and BAM you see everything on one desktop all in one place and at a glance you see or can use specific things.
Didn't know an ordinary browser does this too! Which one? Where do I find that feature at? Again, which browser/web page has all this stuff all at the same time? You seem to know! Tell us oh wise one!
You lost me at "please"
Also, the entire "Funniest Home Videos" infrastructure would collapse as there would be no more "man getting hit by pinata bat in the groin" or "skateboarder misses rail and falls on his nuts".
The world as we know it would be very different.
What an idiotic system. You would have thought by now they would have built better humans to where males produce sperm INSIDE the body at the normal temperature.
Sheesh, we can put a man on the moon...
Yet your time isn't too valuable to post to Slashdot about how valuable your time is.
Foot...meet mouth.
Nah...I'd rather guess and try to be clever than to actually spend time actually RTFA...er...L(isten)TFA I guess in this situation.
I mean, this IS Slashdot. And you of course fulfilled the other Slashdot requirement of correcting someone's spelling when it doesn't matter at all.
Bravo! Good to see someone keeping the old traditions alive.
Let me guess: all Harlen Ellison talks about is how great a writer he is and how much better his script for "City on the Edge of Forever" was than the one filmed for Star Trek.
Am I right? I mean, that's ALL this guy talks about.
That is obviously true, but what about the mass psychology behind it?
pipingguy...you're just...you're just being glib. You haven't studied mass psychology, I have. Just take a vitamin and exercise.
this is true...I never read him except for laughs every now and then. But one writer out of the many that wrote for it doesn't make or break a magazine.
I remember reading about the "Thinking Machines Inc" and their computer with it's processors wired in a "Boolean N Cube" config...which was kinda new at the time. I also remember reading about Pixar and it's new Renderman specifications and RIB files and it's shader language. All pretty cool stuff at the time. This was in the days before the commercial Internet...when only the universities and government had it. You know...the good ol days.
Byte was such a great magazine. It tried to cover a wide range of computer and technology related subjects. I really miss it.
absolutely...Leeroy should be there. Even though the video is an obvious fake...I mean, even when they ran into the rookery THEY were the ones running around hitting every egg they could step on spawning even more dragonlings. Also, the anger everyone had for Leeroy running in like that is totally out of whack..I mean, it's what, a 5 minute run back to your corpse? It's not like you lost anything.
Also, if some idiot ran in there by himself, you can bet all of us would just sit back and watch him die...being perfectly safe out in the hall. Also, what was with the "let me crunch some numbers here...I give us a 33% chance"...not even an UBER nerd would do something like that. I mean, come on...