Well, no. We can sit around all day and compare prices for components till the cows come home, but what I use my Mac for is about the same price I would pay for an XP system. 24" monitor blah blah blah. I won't go into the details.
But the thing that this system runs is OS X, which other systems can't run. (and I'm not talking about hacked OS X running on Dells or other such things). So, I could with a restart run either OS X, XP, or Linux if I wanted. Another Intel based system would only have (mainly), XP/Vista or Linux to choose from.
So even if I agree with your "overpriced, proprietary" hardware analogy, it's still a system I can run any OS I want on.
But hey, if you don't like it, don't like it. But it amazes me why some people take things so personally. Why do you care if people want a Mac? I don't care that people want a PC or a Pontiac or a Big Mac with super-sized fries.....more power to 'em I say!
Don't worry, I'm right with you. And I seriously doubt there are 5000 IBM employees playing this. There's not even 5000 people in the world playing this. Ever go there? I log on every once in a while just to look and it's a ghost town. Every time I go there, I never ever see anyone else in the actual world. The only time you actually see other people is at the starting island where you make your character and learn how to move. Other than that, it's a virtual ghost town....filled with buildings that you have to stand and wait to render/download to your computer (in other words, TONS of pop-up geometry).
Second Life is ALL hype, little to no substance. One thing that Second Life does well is marketing and generating buzz. You hear about it all the time in the media...but it's just nothing there.
I can see it now, spam email going out saying "due to the recent theft of Social Security numbers, please check here to see if your number was stolen. Just input your number here, and we'll tell you if yours was part of the theft...have a nice day..."
No, I would never read a Stephen King book. Good guess. He's a hack.
Um...ok. If you never have read Stephan King, how do you know he's a hack at all? Again, no matter how popular he is, the books are still books. You have no idea how he writes or anything about him with your statement that you would never read him. I'm a fan of Cormac McCarthy, who wasn't that widely read until recently. Should I stop reading his books now because he's become somewhat popular? Of course not, I'm depriving myself if I were to think like you do.
You should stop now, everything that you've written so far is just digging yourself deeper and deeper. No one is reading what you're saying and thinking "wow, you're so cool...you're so anti-establishment"...which seems to be what you're going for. For someone that says they're not elitist, you sure define the term.
Everything you've said here smacks of elitism and the "oh, look at me, I'm so so special" bullshit that pervades people who have drab, uninteresting lives. I'm not saying that you personally have a drab, uninteresting life. It's just that I know so many people that do exactly what you do. Which is to attack anything popular and the totally elitist "the masses are asses" attitude. Sorry, but YOU are also part of the masses.
Harry Potter is not just for kids. They're books. They're BOOKS. When was the last time people got excited about READING. It's usually about something else, but it's heartening to see that people can still get ga-ga over an old fashioned, printed book. To sit there and say "this isn't adult literature" is pure bullshit. What defines "adult literature" then? Stephen King is adult literature right? But I have a feeling, since he's popular, you wouldn't be caught dead reading him. But what I can't understand is, how does it change the actual book? The book is the same if 5 people read it or 5 million people read it. It doesn't mystically change the words inside. Moby Dick, when it was first published didn't have any fans. Was hardly read. It wasn't until like 50 years later it was rediscovered and all of a sudden it became popular. With your attitude, you would have liked it when it first came out, but not after it became popular....even though it was still the same book. What difference does it make how many people read a book? A book is a book. Oh, would it hurt your image to be seen reading a popular book or listening to a popular song or watching a popular movie?
Also, next time you come to Slashdot, check it's tag-line which has never changed: "News for nerds, stuff that matters". Doesn't say anything about programming only. News for nerds. I'm a nerd, yet I'm not a programmer. So does that mean Slashdot isn't for me?
Or better yet, the Internet itself is way way too popular. You're SO uncool now dude....you're conforming like everyone else. Perhaps you should chuck that computer (which is so popular, everyone has a computer), and go "seek out things different and special".
Ugh, would Mac fanboys please stop pointing to the iMac like it was the first all-in-one computer / monitor combo. Gateway was doing it for quite a while before they were.
The idea sucks anyway... for all the disadvantages that come along with it, you might as well have bought a laptop. At least then you have a machine that's portable in addition to being a beast to upgrade.
I dunno, I was just trying to be funny and point to a product that the poster was eluding to...a computer in a monitor. Didn't mean to piss you off or anything...though I can't understand how pointing to a computer can piss someone off.
Oh, and yeah, I guess someone "might as well have bought a laptop" too...as soon as you show me a 24" screened laptop with 2 gigs of ram and a 250 gig 7200 RPM hard-drive for under $2500 bucks. Could you provide a link to that please, I've been looking for one.
If and when a laptop can get a nice big 24" screen or larger, can have ultra fast, high capacity hard drives with kick-ass 3D graphics and components I can upgrade...then I'll get one. I don't see that happening in the next 5 to 7 years.
You have no idea my trials and tribulations with Comcast. It's a very long, expensive, sordid affair. Saying that I'd never ever go back to Comcast is an understatement for me.
If you remember MTV when it first started, it's first 6 to 8 months there were no ads. This was when MTV was outstanding. All they played were videos. Tons and tons of videos and when they didn't have videos to play, there would be chunks of time with just the logo and some music playing behind it (not the breaks, I'm talking like 10 to 15 minute chunks). There were zero ads then.
But of course, that all changed very quickly, and that's when I also lost interest very quickly. But really, it WAS the coolest thing there was...albeit for a very short time.
I have to agree with this. I basically stopped reading computer magazines after Byte Magazine went belly-up. All the others that were left were exactly has you describe them. Open up a PC world lately? It's 90% ads...which actually turn into about 99% ads when you read the actual articles.
Now when a concept of a game is announced, before any code is even written, SOE will release it. No more putting out release candidates, or betas or even alphas before they're finished. They will release the game on the same day it's conceived!
For some reason, this guy doesn't trust banks and does everything in cash. What makes you think he's gonna trust the post office and all their new-fangled machines that do their witchery?
It was suppose to be a RPG made with the Descent engine...but was just a terrible, bug-filled game that was released WAY too early. It was 3D before 3D cards became popular, so the engine was software based.
Yes, what Samkass said above...I meant that it was coming out for the Mac first, but it never did until after it was old news on the PC and Xbox.
Just ironic that they were at Macword to debut it and to show it off and show how great it would look....then it not showing up on the Mac until a few years later.
Macs are still waiting for the Antialiasing bug to get fixed by Apple too. If you notice, when you try to use AA in WoW, it always just jumps back to no AA. Though it may have to do with Nvidia cards. I can't remember.
Blizzard says it's a bug with Apple's OpenGL. They say hopefully it's fixed in Leopard.
They demoed it at a MacWorld and everyone oooo'ed and aaaaaahhh'ed about it. The Microsoft just stepped in and ended that whole thing.
It'd be nice to get more native games, but with Parallels getting 3D, I don't think its really needed anymore. Why stretch the resources on already stretched game-teams to throw out yet another platform they have to test and bug-fix...making the game even later. Or do just like everyone else does, call the alpha of the game the beta-test, then release the beta as a final product. Only you have more platforms to do that with now.
I used to run PC games in Linux through WINE without much problems, I don't see why it can't be done for OS X either. Again, it'd be nice to have native games, but I won't hold my breath.
You're looking at someone that uses Safari 100% of the time on my Mac. It's my main browser. I installed Firefox when I first bought my Mac because I thought I'd be using that all the time like I did on my PC, but I haven't touched it since the second day I got my Mac.
What I was going to do is just test out Safari, see how it was, and then just go back to Firefox after a day or so. That was 4 months ago and I haven't looked back.
It's very fast...very stable, and works very well with the rest of the OS. I've tried Camino...didn't like it. I tried Omniweb, didn't like it either. Never got into Opera even on the PC.
What if some insane person did the transcription and he totally put the wrong notes in for the tab? Can they sue for that?
Maybe post the tab, but everything is transcribed one note up.
I mean, how far can they go? What if there's a post somewhere discussing Zeppelins "The Rain Song" and it's weird DGCGCD (which I think is the tuning for electric, a slightly different tuning goes for acoustic) tuning, can they go after them as well, because in that tuning, the guitar practically plays the song itself. I mean, it's stupid easy to play The Rain Song in that tuning.
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Well, no. We can sit around all day and compare prices for components till the cows come home, but what I use my Mac for is about the same price I would pay for an XP system. 24" monitor blah blah blah. I won't go into the details.
But the thing that this system runs is OS X, which other systems can't run. (and I'm not talking about hacked OS X running on Dells or other such things). So, I could with a restart run either OS X, XP, or Linux if I wanted. Another Intel based system would only have (mainly), XP/Vista or Linux to choose from.
So even if I agree with your "overpriced, proprietary" hardware analogy, it's still a system I can run any OS I want on.
But hey, if you don't like it, don't like it. But it amazes me why some people take things so personally. Why do you care if people want a Mac? I don't care that people want a PC or a Pontiac or a Big Mac with super-sized fries.....more power to 'em I say!
Don't worry, I'm right with you. And I seriously doubt there are 5000 IBM employees playing this. There's not even 5000 people in the world playing this. Ever go there? I log on every once in a while just to look and it's a ghost town. Every time I go there, I never ever see anyone else in the actual world. The only time you actually see other people is at the starting island where you make your character and learn how to move. Other than that, it's a virtual ghost town....filled with buildings that you have to stand and wait to render/download to your computer (in other words, TONS of pop-up geometry).
Second Life is ALL hype, little to no substance. One thing that Second Life does well is marketing and generating buzz. You hear about it all the time in the media...but it's just nothing there.
I can see it now, spam email going out saying "due to the recent theft of Social Security numbers, please check here to see if your number was stolen. Just input your number here, and we'll tell you if yours was part of the theft...have a nice day..."
No, I would never read a Stephen King book. Good guess. He's a hack.
Um...ok. If you never have read Stephan King, how do you know he's a hack at all? Again, no matter how popular he is, the books are still books. You have no idea how he writes or anything about him with your statement that you would never read him. I'm a fan of Cormac McCarthy, who wasn't that widely read until recently. Should I stop reading his books now because he's become somewhat popular? Of course not, I'm depriving myself if I were to think like you do.
You should stop now, everything that you've written so far is just digging yourself deeper and deeper. No one is reading what you're saying and thinking "wow, you're so cool...you're so anti-establishment"...which seems to be what you're going for. For someone that says they're not elitist, you sure define the term.
I used to have a 3 digit UID, but I sold it. There used to be good money in low Slashdot UID's, but the market collapsed a few years ago.
Everything you've said here smacks of elitism and the "oh, look at me, I'm so so special" bullshit that pervades people who have drab, uninteresting lives. I'm not saying that you personally have a drab, uninteresting life. It's just that I know so many people that do exactly what you do. Which is to attack anything popular and the totally elitist "the masses are asses" attitude. Sorry, but YOU are also part of the masses.
Harry Potter is not just for kids. They're books. They're BOOKS. When was the last time people got excited about READING. It's usually about something else, but it's heartening to see that people can still get ga-ga over an old fashioned, printed book. To sit there and say "this isn't adult literature" is pure bullshit. What defines "adult literature" then? Stephen King is adult literature right? But I have a feeling, since he's popular, you wouldn't be caught dead reading him. But what I can't understand is, how does it change the actual book? The book is the same if 5 people read it or 5 million people read it. It doesn't mystically change the words inside. Moby Dick, when it was first published didn't have any fans. Was hardly read. It wasn't until like 50 years later it was rediscovered and all of a sudden it became popular. With your attitude, you would have liked it when it first came out, but not after it became popular....even though it was still the same book. What difference does it make how many people read a book? A book is a book. Oh, would it hurt your image to be seen reading a popular book or listening to a popular song or watching a popular movie?
Also, next time you come to Slashdot, check it's tag-line which has never changed: "News for nerds, stuff that matters". Doesn't say anything about programming only. News for nerds. I'm a nerd, yet I'm not a programmer. So does that mean Slashdot isn't for me?
Or better yet, the Internet itself is way way too popular. You're SO uncool now dude....you're conforming like everyone else. Perhaps you should chuck that computer (which is so popular, everyone has a computer), and go "seek out things different and special".
I'm just saying...
Ugh, would Mac fanboys please stop pointing to the iMac like it was the first all-in-one computer / monitor combo. Gateway was doing it for quite a while before they were.
The idea sucks anyway... for all the disadvantages that come along with it, you might as well have bought a laptop. At least then you have a machine that's portable in addition to being a beast to upgrade.
I dunno, I was just trying to be funny and point to a product that the poster was eluding to...a computer in a monitor. Didn't mean to piss you off or anything...though I can't understand how pointing to a computer can piss someone off.
Oh, and yeah, I guess someone "might as well have bought a laptop" too...as soon as you show me a 24" screened laptop with 2 gigs of ram and a 250 gig 7200 RPM hard-drive for under $2500 bucks. Could you provide a link to that please, I've been looking for one.
Thanks.
We may see the desktop computer disappear into the monitor, though.
Hmmm....we may see that one day.
If and when a laptop can get a nice big 24" screen or larger, can have ultra fast, high capacity hard drives with kick-ass 3D graphics and components I can upgrade...then I'll get one. I don't see that happening in the next 5 to 7 years.
You have no idea my trials and tribulations with Comcast. It's a very long, expensive, sordid affair. Saying that I'd never ever go back to Comcast is an understatement for me.
I don't care if AT&T is in bed with the FBI, NSA and the CIA...they can even plant a surveillance camera up my ass before I EVER go back to Comcast.
If I had to choose between Comcast and no Net access at all, I'd rather go without. That's how much I loath that company.
If you remember MTV when it first started, it's first 6 to 8 months there were no ads. This was when MTV was outstanding. All they played were videos. Tons and tons of videos and when they didn't have videos to play, there would be chunks of time with just the logo and some music playing behind it (not the breaks, I'm talking like 10 to 15 minute chunks). There were zero ads then.
But of course, that all changed very quickly, and that's when I also lost interest very quickly. But really, it WAS the coolest thing there was...albeit for a very short time.
I have to agree with this. I basically stopped reading computer magazines after Byte Magazine went belly-up. All the others that were left were exactly has you describe them. Open up a PC world lately? It's 90% ads...which actually turn into about 99% ads when you read the actual articles.
I mean, the guy claims to have invented everything else, right?
Now when a concept of a game is announced, before any code is even written, SOE will release it. No more putting out release candidates, or betas or even alphas before they're finished. They will release the game on the same day it's conceived!
Well, to be fair, we never ever saw any demo of Duke Nukem Forever. Or any footage at all. Not even a screen shot.
Or am I wrong on this? Is there any DNF screenshots or footage out there?
For some reason, this guy doesn't trust banks and does everything in cash. What makes you think he's gonna trust the post office and all their new-fangled machines that do their witchery?
I'm just saying...
It was suppose to be a RPG made with the Descent engine...but was just a terrible, bug-filled game that was released WAY too early. It was 3D before 3D cards became popular, so the engine was software based.
It was just horrible.
Yes, what Samkass said above...I meant that it was coming out for the Mac first, but it never did until after it was old news on the PC and Xbox.
Just ironic that they were at Macword to debut it and to show it off and show how great it would look....then it not showing up on the Mac until a few years later.
Macs are still waiting for the Antialiasing bug to get fixed by Apple too. If you notice, when you try to use AA in WoW, it always just jumps back to no AA. Though it may have to do with Nvidia cards. I can't remember.
Blizzard says it's a bug with Apple's OpenGL. They say hopefully it's fixed in Leopard.
We'll see.
7600 GT 256mb on my iMac. Sure, not the quickest card, but not bad. Don't know where you're getting your info from.
1920x1200 native resolution. Runs just fine.
I'm just saying...
They demoed it at a MacWorld and everyone oooo'ed and aaaaaahhh'ed about it. The Microsoft just stepped in and ended that whole thing.
It'd be nice to get more native games, but with Parallels getting 3D, I don't think its really needed anymore. Why stretch the resources on already stretched game-teams to throw out yet another platform they have to test and bug-fix...making the game even later. Or do just like everyone else does, call the alpha of the game the beta-test, then release the beta as a final product. Only you have more platforms to do that with now.
I used to run PC games in Linux through WINE without much problems, I don't see why it can't be done for OS X either. Again, it'd be nice to have native games, but I won't hold my breath.
was going to respond to this sooner, but I was using Firefox and was waiting for the page to load.
still loading, so I switched to Safari and posted this. Hopefully FF will finished soon.
Any day now....
You're looking at someone that uses Safari 100% of the time on my Mac. It's my main browser. I installed Firefox when I first bought my Mac because I thought I'd be using that all the time like I did on my PC, but I haven't touched it since the second day I got my Mac.
What I was going to do is just test out Safari, see how it was, and then just go back to Firefox after a day or so. That was 4 months ago and I haven't looked back.
It's very fast...very stable, and works very well with the rest of the OS. I've tried Camino...didn't like it. I tried Omniweb, didn't like it either. Never got into Opera even on the PC.
What if some insane person did the transcription and he totally put the wrong notes in for the tab? Can they sue for that?
Maybe post the tab, but everything is transcribed one note up.
I mean, how far can they go? What if there's a post somewhere discussing Zeppelins "The Rain Song" and it's weird DGCGCD (which I think is the tuning for electric, a slightly different tuning goes for acoustic) tuning, can they go after them as well, because in that tuning, the guitar practically plays the song itself. I mean, it's stupid easy to play The Rain Song in that tuning.