I'll agree with you there about younger people seeking acceptance...but this is nothing new of course as I saw it all through the '70's. Hey, it's tough being a kid...in the past and now. Conform or be cast-out.
But you get older. Hip friends matter less and less and being part of a crowd matters less and less as that old devil time wears on.
Then the music that you most cherish happens to be the music you liked as a youth when you look back. Yes, I like new stuff coming out...but it usually has to brew for about a good 5 years before I start to enjoy it...because it brings back memories for me. Hard to explain really. But you get my drift.
Songs are more than this though...they're also great memory flags.
I'm 42 right now..and when hear a Led Zeppelin song or a Beach Boy's song, it instantly takes me back when I was like 20 riding around with my friends and being a general goof-off. Those were good times and it's nostalgic to think back on your life and see how far you've come etc etc...
At least it is for me. It's a simple pleasure. Lifestyles? Yeah, can see that now adays. People wanting to fit in as well as people not wanting to be social at all, so they listen to the unknown band then declare how mis-understood they are.
Now it appears a new trend is to not like music at all. Watch this little movement grow until it peters out as they all do.
I love how you generalize everyone into the same mass genre.
American's dont' want corporatized boardroom approved crap...no one wants that. Only the coporatized boardroom thinks this and THAT's why it's out there. Are you one of those people that looks down their noses at someone that likes Brittney Spears? So what if someone likes her. Your world will not come crashing down you know.
Also, what is wrong with alternative music becoming popular? Again, are you one of those (since you like sticking people into catagories I'm feeling free to reverse it upon you) that cry "sell out" when a band tries to generate a little coin for the effort?
Music is music...it doesn't matter where it comes from. If you like it, if it brings up an emotion in you...so be it. Who cares if Wayne Newton does it for you or Black Flag?
Also, not sure when the last time you watched MTV or E! but they talk about anything but music. MTV is all "Real World" or "Road Rules" or _____(insert reality show here) and E! is just True Hollywood Stories and Gossip. Hey, some people like that...are you saying you're better than they are?
Look, people like different music. I like music because I like music...not because someone told me to like it. I stand alone on many music choices, but what do I care? And how can someone "hate" music? Is this the new thing for hip young cats like yourself to show how you're above it all? Lol...kids never change I guess and yeah, if I was 19-22 or so, I'd be doing the same thing more than likely...it's always the same I guess.
Since we're throwing out our up times. That was the last time I rebooted because I upgraded my kernel to 2.6.8 on Gentoo. In fact, I don't think it's ever crashed to where I had to reboot since I've had this system. I built it back in November and from day one it's had Gentoo on it. The only time it's ever rebooted is when I upgrade the kernel. I never really thought about it before but I've just impressed myself. I can't say the same for my wife's XP machine.
Since that time I also decided to install kde 3.3. I had been running on Gnome but I'm one of those "the grass is always greener" kind of guys. I haven't run kde in quite some time and I have to say that I'm impressed. So far it handles memory MUCH better than Gnome did.
But now my tried and true fluxbox desktop is also calling me...and that of course uses hardly any memory. But I really don't complain much since I have a gig of ram on my computer as it is.
Oh, and yeah, this is my main computer. Only Linux is installed on it...no dual booting for me. Music, DVD's, Games...it has it all for me.
Would you consider that art or not (Jackson Pollock)?
No, Pollock wasn't art. It was crap. The 20th century art world was high-jacked by idiotic critics that proclaimed that everything before was drivel.
"For over 90 years, there has been a concerted and relentless effort to disparage, denigrate and obliterate the reputations, names, and brilliance of the academic artistic masters of the late 19th Century. Fueled by a cooperative press, the ruling powers have held the global art establishment in an iron grip. Equally, there was a successful effort to remove from our institutions of higher learning all the methods, techniques and knowledge of how to train skilled artists. Five centuries of critical data was nearly thrown into the trash. It is incredible how close Modernist theory, backed by an enormous network of powerful and influential art dealers, came to acquiring complete control over thousands of museums, university art departments and journalistic art criticism."
If you want to be an artist, be an artist...don't throw paint at a canvas and say "I'm a genius!".
Want to know a little more why I'm pissed off? Go to Art Renewal Center and look around. Art should speak to you right from the start.
They do care about quality. But for one, back when HDTV first came out, you had to spend THOUSANDS of dollars for a set...a set at the time that didn't have any content to watch.
Also, a HUGE problem is that the American networks dragged and dragged and dragged their heals with HDTV upgrades to their transmitters because of the initial cost that the FCC finally had to say "Fine, we're putting our foot down and everything has to be HDTV by a certain date" or words to that effect. But the networks STILL rebelled.
So don't lump everything into one group. There's plenty of blame to go around.
I still load all my programs in with a cassette tape recorder...never bought one of them "floppy drives" for my computer as I thought it wouldn't last.
Turns out I'm right after all! Saved my self some bucks.
Though it takes about 2 hours now to just boot my computer off the cassette. And I won't even begin to tell ya how long it took to compile Gentoo.
Also, after about 2 minutes of futzing around I remembered my old login and password...but was still linked to an @home address. Wow, I'm totally lazy!
Ok, so my number isn't in the low 3 or 4 or 5 digits...but it's now 464424 members lower than it was!
If you were running the company it would have been shut down by now...instead of rising out of it's ashes like it did and do such a 180 degree turn around.
Apple is doing better today than it EVER did. They have total focus on what they're doing and so far they've done no wrong with Jobs at the helm again.
Killing off the clones was the best thing they could have done, as all the little clone companies out there were just stealing business away from Apple itself, instead of helping them.
They're also out there leading the pack again instead of trying to play catch up. You may think the iMac and the iBook are simply gimmics...if that's the case then why are they such a resounding sucess? You can hem and haw all you want but the facts speak for themselves: the iMac is a sucess! Love it or hate it, it's still a sucess! Say it's just eye candy or that it not having a floppy drive all you want: it's STILL a sucess!
Well, shows you ZDNet knows what they're doing because I wrote a talkback note there saying what I said here. That they were just being controversial to get web hits. They didn't post my reply. Gee, I wonder why?
Stop reading they're site. I don't care if they're they're the only ones covering the second coming of Jesus...just don't go there.
They only post stories and articles/opinions to stir up the controversy. They want people pissed off and incensed to read and write back to them...all the while getting thousands and thousands of hits to their web pages.
Besides, there is NOTHING on that site or any of their sister-sites that has any info that I can't get from somewhere else (like here at Slashdot).
Stop feeding the troll and stop making money for the troll!
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I'll agree with you there about younger people seeking acceptance...but this is nothing new of course as I saw it all through the '70's. Hey, it's tough being a kid...in the past and now. Conform or be cast-out.
But you get older. Hip friends matter less and less and being part of a crowd matters less and less as that old devil time wears on.
Then the music that you most cherish happens to be the music you liked as a youth when you look back. Yes, I like new stuff coming out...but it usually has to brew for about a good 5 years before I start to enjoy it...because it brings back memories for me. Hard to explain really. But you get my drift.
Songs are more than this though...they're also great memory flags.
I'm 42 right now..and when hear a Led Zeppelin song or a Beach Boy's song, it instantly takes me back when I was like 20 riding around with my friends and being a general goof-off. Those were good times and it's nostalgic to think back on your life and see how far you've come etc etc...
At least it is for me. It's a simple pleasure. Lifestyles? Yeah, can see that now adays. People wanting to fit in as well as people not wanting to be social at all, so they listen to the unknown band then declare how mis-understood they are.
Now it appears a new trend is to not like music at all. Watch this little movement grow until it peters out as they all do.
I love how you generalize everyone into the same mass genre.
American's dont' want corporatized boardroom approved crap...no one wants that. Only the coporatized boardroom thinks this and THAT's why it's out there. Are you one of those people that looks down their noses at someone that likes Brittney Spears? So what if someone likes her. Your world will not come crashing down you know.
Also, what is wrong with alternative music becoming popular? Again, are you one of those (since you like sticking people into catagories I'm feeling free to reverse it upon you) that cry "sell out" when a band tries to generate a little coin for the effort?
Music is music...it doesn't matter where it comes from. If you like it, if it brings up an emotion in you...so be it. Who cares if Wayne Newton does it for you or Black Flag?
Also, not sure when the last time you watched MTV or E! but they talk about anything but music. MTV is all "Real World" or "Road Rules" or _____(insert reality show here) and E! is just True Hollywood Stories and Gossip. Hey, some people like that...are you saying you're better than they are?
Look, people like different music. I like music because I like music...not because someone told me to like it. I stand alone on many music choices, but what do I care? And how can someone "hate" music? Is this the new thing for hip young cats like yourself to show how you're above it all? Lol...kids never change I guess and yeah, if I was 19-22 or so, I'd be doing the same thing more than likely...it's always the same I guess.
Don't you remember what happened last time someone tried to file a FOI request? The Secret Service bullied him into cancelling it.
No, I dont remember this. Remind me please...with links?
Thanks!
up 15 days, 12:05, 4 users, load average: 0.68, 0.27, 0.44
Since we're throwing out our up times. That was the last time I rebooted because I upgraded my kernel to 2.6.8 on Gentoo. In fact, I don't think it's ever crashed to where I had to reboot since I've had this system. I built it back in November and from day one it's had Gentoo on it. The only time it's ever rebooted is when I upgrade the kernel. I never really thought about it before but I've just impressed myself. I can't say the same for my wife's XP machine.
Since that time I also decided to install kde 3.3. I had been running on Gnome but I'm one of those "the grass is always greener" kind of guys. I haven't run kde in quite some time and I have to say that I'm impressed. So far it handles memory MUCH better than Gnome did.
But now my tried and true fluxbox desktop is also calling me...and that of course uses hardly any memory. But I really don't complain much since I have a gig of ram on my computer as it is.
Oh, and yeah, this is my main computer. Only Linux is installed on it...no dual booting for me. Music, DVD's, Games...it has it all for me.
Would you consider that art or not (Jackson Pollock)?
No, Pollock wasn't art. It was crap. The 20th century art world was high-jacked by idiotic critics that proclaimed that everything before was drivel.
"For over 90 years, there has been a concerted and relentless effort to disparage, denigrate and obliterate the reputations, names, and brilliance of the academic artistic masters of the late 19th Century. Fueled by a cooperative press, the ruling powers have held the global art establishment in an iron grip. Equally, there was a successful effort to remove from our institutions of higher learning all the methods, techniques and knowledge of how to train skilled artists. Five centuries of critical data was nearly thrown into the trash. It is incredible how close Modernist theory, backed by an enormous network of powerful and influential art dealers, came to acquiring complete control over thousands of museums, university art departments and journalistic art criticism."
If you want to be an artist, be an artist...don't throw paint at a canvas and say "I'm a genius!".
Want to know a little more why I'm pissed off? Go to Art Renewal Center and look around. Art should speak to you right from the start.
Evolving? Writing in shortcuts and stupid abbreviations has been around for like 35 years!
Look at any of those valintine's candy hearts with the "I LUV U" on it.
Our language is evolving toward candy hearts!
and a few years after that to patent all the notes and major and minor chords.
Then they'll "give back" E and D major as "see, we contribute back to the community" PR.
They do care about quality. But for one, back when HDTV first came out, you had to spend THOUSANDS of dollars for a set...a set at the time that didn't have any content to watch.
Also, a HUGE problem is that the American networks dragged and dragged and dragged their heals with HDTV upgrades to their transmitters because of the initial cost that the FCC finally had to say "Fine, we're putting our foot down and everything has to be HDTV by a certain date" or words to that effect. But the networks STILL rebelled.
So don't lump everything into one group. There's plenty of blame to go around.
I still load all my programs in with a cassette tape recorder...never bought one of them "floppy drives" for my computer as I thought it wouldn't last.
Turns out I'm right after all! Saved my self some bucks.
Though it takes about 2 hours now to just boot my computer off the cassette. And I won't even begin to tell ya how long it took to compile Gentoo.
As long as you don't start out as "Crewman #3" which would mean certain death on those away missions.
Also, after about 2 minutes of futzing around I remembered my old login and password...but was still linked to an @home address. Wow, I'm totally lazy!
Ok, so my number isn't in the low 3 or 4 or 5 digits...but it's now 464424 members lower than it was!
Doesn't have the "stink" of Sony Online Entertainment mucking up the mix though.
This is almost a given.
Also another given would be an all Star Trek cable channel.
Not that I'm a huge fan, but I'm just pointing out "givens" where Paramount could squeeze yet another dollar out of the Trek world.
If you were running the company it would have been shut down by now...instead of rising out of it's ashes like it did and do such a 180 degree turn around.
Apple is doing better today than it EVER did. They have total focus on what they're doing and so far they've done no wrong with Jobs at the helm again.
Killing off the clones was the best thing they could have done, as all the little clone companies out there were just stealing business away from Apple itself, instead of helping them.
They're also out there leading the pack again instead of trying to play catch up. You may think the iMac and the iBook are simply gimmics...if that's the case then why are they such a resounding sucess? You can hem and haw all you want but the facts speak for themselves: the iMac is a sucess! Love it or hate it, it's still a sucess! Say it's just eye candy or that it not having a floppy drive all you want: it's STILL a sucess!
Well, shows you ZDNet knows what they're doing because I wrote a talkback note there saying what I said here. That they were just being controversial to get web hits. They didn't post my reply. Gee, I wonder why?
Stop reading they're site. I don't care if they're they're the only ones covering the second coming of Jesus...just don't go there.
They only post stories and articles/opinions to stir up the controversy. They want people pissed off and incensed to read and write back to them...all the while getting thousands and thousands of hits to their web pages.
Besides, there is NOTHING on that site or any of their sister-sites that has any info that I can't get from somewhere else (like here at Slashdot).
Stop feeding the troll and stop making money for the troll!