Mod parent up before he's modded down as a troll or flamebait.
I couldn't agree more. Plus I doubt very much that George W. actually reads the bible...it's handy to say that when you're campaining in the "bible belt"...but come on.
His views on science are so medieval you'd think he'd come lumbering out of the White House and throw rocks at the Sun saying "my god, what is that ball of fire! It will destroy us! God must be angry!".
No, I won't list specifics...that's why we have Google...do your own research.
To operate our experiments over winter, when there was no one at Dome C, we had several problems to address:
1. For hardware reliability, we wanted to remove all moving parts in the computers, i.e., no disk drives, and no fans. So we used a small PC/104 form-factor computer system with solid-state disk drives.
2. We had to generate our own electricity. We took two approaches to this:
1. One experiment, ICECAM, relied entirely on a 5 kg pack of lithium thionyl chloride batteries. The batteries had to provide power for a year, so minimized the power consumption of the computer. The experiment only needed to take data every two hours, so we built a CMOS oscillator to power-up the computer for 30 seconds every two hours. We used MS-DOS 6.22 for the PC/104 computer since it boots quickly and was able to average 10 frames from the CCD camera and store them to CompactFlash disk.
2. For the experiment that obtained the seeing results, the AASTINO, we needed much more power, up to 400W, and we had to operate continuously, so we used stirling engines running on jet fuel. For software reliability we chose Linux, Redhat 9 to be precise. Software and hardware watchdog timers helped to ensure that the system would recover from most failure modes.
3. The ambient temperature at Dome C reaches a low of -85C during winter. Computers, and electronics in general, are not designed to operate at these temperatures. We took two approaches:
1. With ICECAM we had no reserves of power for heating, so we buried the computer in a crypt seven meters below the ice surface, at which point the temperature is stable at the yearly average of -57C. This is still outside the computer's specfication. Fortunately, a test in a low-temperature fridge showed that the computer and solid-state disks worked reliably at these temperatures. ICECAM's camera, a Watec 902-HS, had to remain outside, and tests shows that it was able to operate flawlessly down to at least -80C.
2. With the AASTINO, the stirling engines produced up to 6 kW of waste heat, which we utilized to maintain a comfortable operating temperature of about -10C.
4. Internet connectivity was provided by an Iridium phone, which acts like a 2400 baud modem.
5. The hardware and software had to be carefully designed so that we could recover from most problems remotely. There were no reset buttons to press, and no prompts to "click OK to continue".
The PC/104 computers we used were made by DSP Design, however it in unclear whether the company still exists, since all our attempts (using e-mail and filling out their laborious on-line enquiry form) over the past 6 months to have a simple technical question answered have received no response.
Stay away from the Norwegian camp....they dug up something in the ice and we've lost contact with them....
Last we heard, one of their sled dogs were running this way with a helecopter following it....
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Medico is the way to go...also, very very few criminals resort to actually picking locks when a sledge hammer and a crow-bar work quicker.
But medico is the way to go if you want an uber secure steel door with a steel frame set into concrete...but as with all things, the thing you would THINK is the weakest link in door security (like the lock) is actually the strongest. When you are thinking about installing a door, think the whole thing with frame along with the lock.
Also, go low-tech also and a good steel bar across the bottom of the door stops many people...also stops with the kick-in.
But sheesh, why why WHY do these kinds of stories always always ALWAYS degenerate into these types of battles?
Why do people spread so much FUD around to where people like you have to step up and clear the air? Then how many trolls will come along and try to shoot you down etc etc.
Where does this get us? And I'm certainly guilty of it also. And it get's me no where other than pissed-off over nothing.
No, this isn't true. You can NOT run all those apps...especially Office AND IE AND Outlook with just 128 of RAM smoothly.
Smoothly is the key point here. Yes, you can run them, but not smoothly...go tell that to someone else but don't try to spread that around here as you'll get laughed out of the forums.
It's not even funny as a troll either. I mean, come on, try a little harder.
well, I use kde at the moment and it's pretty consistant.
Also, I don't use any keyboard shortcut for copying...I use the middle mouse button to copy and paste. This is MUCH easier than Windows. Windows is a kludge for me now...
I agree with you there. How many fans of the original Star Wars...the one's who cry about the changes...that say they're going to go ahead and buy the original trilogy even though they don't like the changes? I've seen quite a few.
I'm coming from a historical point-of-view. I don't mind the new changes as long as they're done well...BUT also release the original prints to see where it's come from.
If they're never released in original form, lost is the document of state-of-the-art Special Effects from 1977. There is no touch-stone to show us where we've come from. We look back at King Kong, Forbidden Planet, 2001 and so on to see how special effects have progressed in the cinema. Star Wars was a HUGE boon to special effects, and if those original effects shots are lost due to Lucas "not being happy with them"...well, that's just wrong.
But after he's dead, they'll come out I'm sure of it.
What if like in 1980 or so Orsen Welles decided he didn't like the final cut of "Citizen Kane" and wanted to go back in, shoot some more scenes and re-edit it a little...people would have strung him up!
Though, in contrast to this, Welles did write notes about re-editing "A Touch of Evil" and in 1998 they did re-edit it and ya know, it was better. But we're talking about Orsen Welles here, Lucas couldn't even walk in his shadow (and Welles cast a big shadow...literally.
So I guess I see two side of the coin here. I understand that it's Lucas' vision, but I also see him releasing the original cuts in the future also. If not Lucas, then someone like the Criterion Collection may...if they get the rights to it. I mean, there is certainly money to be made here AND critical interest. At least release it for historians.
I mean, doesn't anyone else here see what Lucas is doing? He's not stomping on your childhood dreams...it's pure marketing genius. Remeber back when Coke said it was changing the recipe for Coca-Cola? Their sales went through the roof for the ORIGINAL coke!
He's releasing the "Special Editions" now. He'll make the money off of them...let them stay out there for like a year or two. THEN it will be get the entire box set of Episodes 1-6 that will set you back like $150...let that stay out there a few years until they don't sell anymore.
Then around 6 years from now or so, the Original 3 movies with no changes at all...the ones that were released starting back in 1977 will be a box set. There's certainly a market for this now and everyone that's bitching and moaning will snatch it up!
Lucas won't be laughing all the way to the bank btw...he'll just install a bank at Skywalker Ranch and be done with it.
Gentoo is the distro I'm running. I've installed Linux on various machines starting with Slackware back like 1993 or so...and then every once in a while I would install it again...Redhat, Mandrake, Fedora.
But I built the computer I'm on now from scratch and I figured why not build the OS from scratch also. So I picked Gentoo. I've been very happy and very impressed with the ease of Gentoo. Very powerfull.
But like I said, if they DO have a gun...and you have a gun, what happens then? Just having a gun when they have one doesn't automatically cancel each other out. I'm sure the home intruder won't wait around whilst one explains the concept of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) to them.
So then what happens? Does it come down to whoever shoots first wins? Do you warn the guy first that you're going to shoot...or do you shoot him first?
Does it turn into The A Team where you duck down behind a barrel and start firing...and whoever runs out of ammo first gives up?
There's no reason really. I've totally switched to Linux...it's the only OS on my machine. I don't do any dual booting.
Games I play, have them already on Linux. Though wouldn't mind trying out Half Life 2...
Everything else I agree with other than configuring...it's easy. At least it was for me.
Things I miss? So far, nothing. It does everything I ever did on my Windows XP machine...but more. Since I switched I feel I certainly know my machine better. I know the processes it's running at any given time. And of course it feels quicker than XP ever did...but I guess everyone's impression of this will be different.
But the reason I switched was basically financial. I saved around 80 bucks by not installing Windows...and then I saved of course by using only open source programs. 80 bucks may not seem like a lot, but it's 80 bucks. And perhaps I was thinking it was only a stop gap solution, and if I really hated Linux I could always break down and buy Windows and put it on there...but this has been over a year now.
Sorry, I'm not that afraid to buy a gun to kill someone.
And yes, if you buy a gun and take safty courses etc etc and practice...you're practicing to kill someone because they broke into your car. Wow, that really fits the crime.
Where does all this fear come from? I've walked in the Robert Taylor homes near Chicago before...wasn't hassled, didn't get killed, didn't get mugged....no one bothered me. But to hear reports of there you'd think it was a war zone.
Then it comes down to the final moment...could you really pull the trigger? Are you justified shooting someone that's just breaking into your car (after all, you suggested buying a gun and the original story is about a car break-in).
And why a gun? Why not a baseball bat? Why not a sword? Are you afraid the criminal may also have a gun? Then what does it turn into, a wild west shoot-out? Do you dive behind the sofa and fire over it? Break out a few windows and start blasting? Better practice the "cop roll" so you can jump out from behind the sofa and get that critical shot like all the cool guys in the movies do!
I mean..come on. It's not THAT bad out there. Sure, I've had stuff ripped off before...but I never wanted to protect it with deadly force. I'm not that scared to resort to taking another life.
Could you really kill someone? How many people, at the critical moment, freeze up? How many people, even after taking courses still screw up in the moment of truth due to nerves?
I grew up with guns. I was born and raised on a farm in Virginia. We would hunt deer to put food on our table every year...it saved us money. The pride and joy of my father, brother and me was our 7mm Weatherby Magnum we'd hunt with. But it was a fact of life. We didn't have guns to protect ourselves, we had them to hunt to put food on the table. I guess now that's very politically incorrect to do...but we weren't advocates...nor were we Ted Nugents either. It was cheap meat. Nuff said.
I'm 42 now, don't own any guns...not because I'm afraid of them or think their evil...I just don't own any because I just don't own any. Never really needed one and I don't hunt anymore. Also, never been in a situation to where I would think "boy, wish I had a gun right now".
But anyway, to each their own...just hope some goofball who's scared shitless doesn't shoot through my window by mistake. lol
It sounds from every description like the solution is Linux-specific, but I'm sure it can be made to work with other UNIX variants, especially since Gmail, itself, runs on Apple xServe 1u boxes. Windows compatibility is unknown, but I'm sure someone will solve that soon.
I know, it's a little childish, but I get a good feeling when I see something small...even this little thing here...that thinks of other OS's first and Windows compatibility will be "real soon now" or something like that.
This is from space.com, written when von Braun died:
It is now well-known that von Braun was an honorary officer in the S.S., Hitler's feared security police, and that V-2 production was made possible by slave labor at both Peenemuende and Mittelwerk _ facts that were hidden or glossed over by the U.S. government and von Braun himself.
But scrutiny from journalists and scholars intensified in 1984 after one of von Braun's top men, Arthur Rudolph, left the United States and renounced his citizenship rather than face being tried for war crimes. The Department of Justice determined he was culpable for the condition of slave laborers at Mittelwerk; Rudolph, who died in Germany, said the S.S. was responsible, not him.
Von Braun's complicity in Nazi atrocities is less clear, Neufeld said. But there is at least one document _ a letter _ in which von Braun discusses a trip to the Buchenwald concentration camp, where he apparently spoke to the commandant about obtaining more skilled laborers to use at Mittelwerk.
``The floodgates (of scrutiny) opened with Rudolph,'' said Neufeld, who published a book on the rocket team, ``The Rocket and the Reich.''
In ensuing years, newspaper and magazine stories as well as several books critical of von Braun were published. The accounts were fueled in part by concentration camp survivors angry that the scientist had become a hero in the United States.
The remaining members of the German rocket team say it's unfair to criticize them for their role at Peenemuende and Mittelwerk. They say that role must be viewed in the context of the times.
``During the war, practically everything was done with concentration camp labor,'' Dahm said.
Von Braun himself, Jacobi and others point out, was briefly imprisoned by the S.S., supposedly for talking about going to the moon. Germany was losing the war and the government wanted him to concentrate on missile production.
``What's the definition of slave laborer?'' said Jacobi. ``In a certain sense we were slave laborers. Under certain dictatorships you have to do certain things.''
Two sides to ever story. I'm not making judgement calls here on what was in the heart of von Braun and if he was indeed a true war criminal. One thing is for sure, von Braun's main ambition in life...one that set him on his course...was to reach the Moon.
I didn't know this...as I've never bought anything from eBay's adult section, and as I remember I haven't even gone there because to get access you have to sign away your soul and jump through flaming hoops just to SEE what they have. It wasn't worth the hassle, and I wasn't buying anything on there anyway.
When you buy stuff on eBay you arent buying it *from* ebay - ebay is just an auction house. Individual eBay members sell things on eBay, and other eBay members buy them (or not)
Have you ever actually used eBay? Somehow I tend to doubt it.
Well no DUH! Yes I've used ebay quite a bit. I know how they work.
So to take what you say further...when you use Paypal to pay for something, you're only buying things through them as well. A go between from consumer and seller. Paypal isn't buying or selling anything themselves either.
Have you actually used Paypal? Somehow I tend to doubt it.
Paypal is owned by ebay right now...but how is this going to work if you buy your adult stuff ON ebay?
Ebay does have a whole adult section where you can buy movies, toys etc etc...so will this effect it?
Fined by the same company that your buying adult things from.
Sounds too me like a double standard in the works. I don't think Paypal is trying to discourage this behavior that it finds objectionable...because if it did, then ebay would remove the entire adult section from it's site also.
The presenter, a filmmaking friend of Conran's, closed the screening with a joke about Pete Townshend meeting Eric Clapton in a London bar and commiserating about some new kid named Hendrix, "who's gonna kick our asses." He imagined that Spielberg and Lucas might soon be having a similar conversation somewhere in California.
So in a couple of years Conran's going to die in a hotel room after a night of drinking?
Well, the candle that burns twice as bright, burns out twice as fast...it's better to burn out, than to fade away...
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Mod parent up before he's modded down as a troll or flamebait.
I couldn't agree more. Plus I doubt very much that George W. actually reads the bible...it's handy to say that when you're campaining in the "bible belt"...but come on.
His views on science are so medieval you'd think he'd come lumbering out of the White House and throw rocks at the Sun saying "my god, what is that ball of fire! It will destroy us! God must be angry!".
No, I won't list specifics...that's why we have Google...do your own research.
From the article in case it get's slashdotted:
To operate our experiments over winter, when there was no one at Dome C, we had several problems to address:
1. For hardware reliability, we wanted to remove all moving parts in the computers, i.e., no disk drives, and no fans. So we used a small PC/104 form-factor computer system with solid-state disk drives.
2. We had to generate our own electricity. We took two approaches to this:
1. One experiment, ICECAM, relied entirely on a 5 kg pack of lithium thionyl chloride batteries. The batteries had to provide power for a year, so minimized the power consumption of the computer. The experiment only needed to take data every two hours, so we built a CMOS oscillator to power-up the computer for 30 seconds every two hours. We used MS-DOS 6.22 for the PC/104 computer since it boots quickly and was able to average 10 frames from the CCD camera and store them to CompactFlash disk.
2. For the experiment that obtained the seeing results, the AASTINO, we needed much more power, up to 400W, and we had to operate continuously, so we used stirling engines running on jet fuel. For software reliability we chose Linux, Redhat 9 to be precise. Software and hardware watchdog timers helped to ensure that the system would recover from most failure modes.
3. The ambient temperature at Dome C reaches a low of -85C during winter. Computers, and electronics in general, are not designed to operate at these temperatures. We took two approaches:
1. With ICECAM we had no reserves of power for heating, so we buried the computer in a crypt seven meters below the ice surface, at which point the temperature is stable at the yearly average of -57C. This is still outside the computer's specfication. Fortunately, a test in a low-temperature fridge showed that the computer and solid-state disks worked reliably at these temperatures. ICECAM's camera, a Watec 902-HS, had to remain outside, and tests shows that it was able to operate flawlessly down to at least -80C.
2. With the AASTINO, the stirling engines produced up to 6 kW of waste heat, which we utilized to maintain a comfortable operating temperature of about -10C.
4. Internet connectivity was provided by an Iridium phone, which acts like a 2400 baud modem.
5. The hardware and software had to be carefully designed so that we could recover from most problems remotely. There were no reset buttons to press, and no prompts to "click OK to continue".
The PC/104 computers we used were made by DSP Design, however it in unclear whether the company still exists, since all our attempts (using e-mail and filling out their laborious on-line enquiry form) over the past 6 months to have a simple technical question answered have received no response.
Stay away from the Norwegian camp....they dug up something in the ice and we've lost contact with them....
Last we heard, one of their sled dogs were running this way with a helecopter following it....
Medico is the way to go...also, very very few criminals resort to actually picking locks when a sledge hammer and a crow-bar work quicker.
But medico is the way to go if you want an uber secure steel door with a steel frame set into concrete...but as with all things, the thing you would THINK is the weakest link in door security (like the lock) is actually the strongest. When you are thinking about installing a door, think the whole thing with frame along with the lock.
Also, go low-tech also and a good steel bar across the bottom of the door stops many people...also stops with the kick-in.
I agree with you.
But sheesh, why why WHY do these kinds of stories always always ALWAYS degenerate into these types of battles?
Why do people spread so much FUD around to where people like you have to step up and clear the air? Then how many trolls will come along and try to shoot you down etc etc.
Where does this get us? And I'm certainly guilty of it also. And it get's me no where other than pissed-off over nothing.
No, this isn't true. You can NOT run all those apps...especially Office AND IE AND Outlook with just 128 of RAM smoothly.
Smoothly is the key point here. Yes, you can run them, but not smoothly...go tell that to someone else but don't try to spread that around here as you'll get laughed out of the forums.
It's not even funny as a troll either. I mean, come on, try a little harder.
And I take it you're not one of those users that know what they're doing or else you would have mentioned where to find this configure switch.
I don't use Gnome, so I don't know what I'm doing.
when James Doolan just recently passed away
He didn't just pass away. Where did you pull this from?
well, I use kde at the moment and it's pretty consistant.
Also, I don't use any keyboard shortcut for copying...I use the middle mouse button to copy and paste. This is MUCH easier than Windows. Windows is a kludge for me now...
I agree with you there. How many fans of the original Star Wars...the one's who cry about the changes...that say they're going to go ahead and buy the original trilogy even though they don't like the changes? I've seen quite a few.
I'm coming from a historical point-of-view. I don't mind the new changes as long as they're done well...BUT also release the original prints to see where it's come from.
If they're never released in original form, lost is the document of state-of-the-art Special Effects from 1977. There is no touch-stone to show us where we've come from. We look back at King Kong, Forbidden Planet, 2001 and so on to see how special effects have progressed in the cinema. Star Wars was a HUGE boon to special effects, and if those original effects shots are lost due to Lucas "not being happy with them"...well, that's just wrong.
But after he's dead, they'll come out I'm sure of it.
What if like in 1980 or so Orsen Welles decided he didn't like the final cut of "Citizen Kane" and wanted to go back in, shoot some more scenes and re-edit it a little...people would have strung him up!
Though, in contrast to this, Welles did write notes about re-editing "A Touch of Evil" and in 1998 they did re-edit it and ya know, it was better. But we're talking about Orsen Welles here, Lucas couldn't even walk in his shadow (and Welles cast a big shadow...literally.
So I guess I see two side of the coin here. I understand that it's Lucas' vision, but I also see him releasing the original cuts in the future also. If not Lucas, then someone like the Criterion Collection may...if they get the rights to it. I mean, there is certainly money to be made here AND critical interest. At least release it for historians.
I make a reference to "Star Trek 4" when Scotty held the mouse up and was speaking into it and it's labled "flamebait"?
Oh well, I suppose the moderators are wiser than I.
This IS great news because I've been trying to talk into my mouse now for quite a while.
"Computer?.....commmm-PU-terrrrr?"
Now hopefully my co-workers will stop giving me strange looks...well, one can dream can't they? No, I'm asking...can one dream?
I mean, doesn't anyone else here see what Lucas is doing? He's not stomping on your childhood dreams...it's pure marketing genius. Remeber back when Coke said it was changing the recipe for Coca-Cola? Their sales went through the roof for the ORIGINAL coke!
He's releasing the "Special Editions" now. He'll make the money off of them...let them stay out there for like a year or two. THEN it will be get the entire box set of Episodes 1-6 that will set you back like $150...let that stay out there a few years until they don't sell anymore.
Then around 6 years from now or so, the Original 3 movies with no changes at all...the ones that were released starting back in 1977 will be a box set. There's certainly a market for this now and everyone that's bitching and moaning will snatch it up!
Lucas won't be laughing all the way to the bank btw...he'll just install a bank at Skywalker Ranch and be done with it.
Gentoo is the distro I'm running. I've installed Linux on various machines starting with Slackware back like 1993 or so...and then every once in a while I would install it again...Redhat, Mandrake, Fedora.
But I built the computer I'm on now from scratch and I figured why not build the OS from scratch also. So I picked Gentoo. I've been very happy and very impressed with the ease of Gentoo. Very powerfull.
But like I said, if they DO have a gun...and you have a gun, what happens then? Just having a gun when they have one doesn't automatically cancel each other out. I'm sure the home intruder won't wait around whilst one explains the concept of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) to them.
So then what happens? Does it come down to whoever shoots first wins? Do you warn the guy first that you're going to shoot...or do you shoot him first?
Does it turn into The A Team where you duck down behind a barrel and start firing...and whoever runs out of ammo first gives up?
There's no reason really. I've totally switched to Linux...it's the only OS on my machine. I don't do any dual booting.
Games I play, have them already on Linux. Though wouldn't mind trying out Half Life 2...
Everything else I agree with other than configuring...it's easy. At least it was for me.
Things I miss? So far, nothing. It does everything I ever did on my Windows XP machine...but more. Since I switched I feel I certainly know my machine better. I know the processes it's running at any given time. And of course it feels quicker than XP ever did...but I guess everyone's impression of this will be different.
But the reason I switched was basically financial. I saved around 80 bucks by not installing Windows...and then I saved of course by using only open source programs. 80 bucks may not seem like a lot, but it's 80 bucks. And perhaps I was thinking it was only a stop gap solution, and if I really hated Linux I could always break down and buy Windows and put it on there...but this has been over a year now.
Sorry, I'm not that afraid to buy a gun to kill someone.
And yes, if you buy a gun and take safty courses etc etc and practice...you're practicing to kill someone because they broke into your car. Wow, that really fits the crime.
Where does all this fear come from? I've walked in the Robert Taylor homes near Chicago before...wasn't hassled, didn't get killed, didn't get mugged....no one bothered me. But to hear reports of there you'd think it was a war zone.
Then it comes down to the final moment...could you really pull the trigger? Are you justified shooting someone that's just breaking into your car (after all, you suggested buying a gun and the original story is about a car break-in).
And why a gun? Why not a baseball bat? Why not a sword? Are you afraid the criminal may also have a gun? Then what does it turn into, a wild west shoot-out? Do you dive behind the sofa and fire over it? Break out a few windows and start blasting? Better practice the "cop roll" so you can jump out from behind the sofa and get that critical shot like all the cool guys in the movies do!
I mean..come on. It's not THAT bad out there. Sure, I've had stuff ripped off before...but I never wanted to protect it with deadly force. I'm not that scared to resort to taking another life.
Could you really kill someone? How many people, at the critical moment, freeze up? How many people, even after taking courses still screw up in the moment of truth due to nerves?
I grew up with guns. I was born and raised on a farm in Virginia. We would hunt deer to put food on our table every year...it saved us money. The pride and joy of my father, brother and me was our 7mm Weatherby Magnum we'd hunt with. But it was a fact of life. We didn't have guns to protect ourselves, we had them to hunt to put food on the table. I guess now that's very politically incorrect to do...but we weren't advocates...nor were we Ted Nugents either. It was cheap meat. Nuff said.
I'm 42 now, don't own any guns...not because I'm afraid of them or think their evil...I just don't own any because I just don't own any. Never really needed one and I don't hunt anymore. Also, never been in a situation to where I would think "boy, wish I had a gun right now".
But anyway, to each their own...just hope some goofball who's scared shitless doesn't shoot through my window by mistake. lol
From the article:
It sounds from every description like the solution is Linux-specific, but I'm sure it can be made to work with other UNIX variants, especially since Gmail, itself, runs on Apple xServe 1u boxes. Windows compatibility is unknown, but I'm sure someone will solve that soon.
I know, it's a little childish, but I get a good feeling when I see something small...even this little thing here...that thinks of other OS's first and Windows compatibility will be "real soon now" or something like that.
my mistake btw...this was written remembering Von Braun...not when he died.
Von Braun died in 1977.
This is from space.com, written when von Braun died:
It is now well-known that von Braun was an honorary officer in the S.S., Hitler's feared security police, and that V-2 production was made possible by slave labor at both Peenemuende and Mittelwerk _ facts that were hidden or glossed over by the U.S. government and von Braun himself.
But scrutiny from journalists and scholars intensified in 1984 after one of von Braun's top men, Arthur Rudolph, left the United States and renounced his citizenship rather than face being tried for war crimes. The Department of Justice determined he was culpable for the condition of slave laborers at Mittelwerk; Rudolph, who died in Germany, said the S.S. was responsible, not him.
Von Braun's complicity in Nazi atrocities is less clear, Neufeld said. But there is at least one document _ a letter _ in which von Braun discusses a trip to the Buchenwald concentration camp, where he apparently spoke to the commandant about obtaining more skilled laborers to use at Mittelwerk.
``The floodgates (of scrutiny) opened with Rudolph,'' said Neufeld, who published a book on the rocket team, ``The Rocket and the Reich.''
In ensuing years, newspaper and magazine stories as well as several books critical of von Braun were published. The accounts were fueled in part by concentration camp survivors angry that the scientist had become a hero in the United States.
The remaining members of the German rocket team say it's unfair to criticize them for their role at Peenemuende and Mittelwerk. They say that role must be viewed in the context of the times.
``During the war, practically everything was done with concentration camp labor,'' Dahm said.
Von Braun himself, Jacobi and others point out, was briefly imprisoned by the S.S., supposedly for talking about going to the moon. Germany was losing the war and the government wanted him to concentrate on missile production.
``What's the definition of slave laborer?'' said Jacobi. ``In a certain sense we were slave laborers. Under certain dictatorships you have to do certain things.''
Two sides to ever story. I'm not making judgement calls here on what was in the heart of von Braun and if he was indeed a true war criminal. One thing is for sure, von Braun's main ambition in life...one that set him on his course...was to reach the Moon.
I didn't know this...as I've never bought anything from eBay's adult section, and as I remember I haven't even gone there because to get access you have to sign away your soul and jump through flaming hoops just to SEE what they have. It wasn't worth the hassle, and I wasn't buying anything on there anyway.
At least as far as anyone here knows...
When you buy stuff on eBay you arent buying it *from* ebay - ebay is just an auction house. Individual eBay members sell things on eBay, and other eBay members buy them (or not)
Have you ever actually used eBay? Somehow I tend to doubt it.
Well no DUH! Yes I've used ebay quite a bit. I know how they work.
So to take what you say further...when you use Paypal to pay for something, you're only buying things through them as well. A go between from consumer and seller. Paypal isn't buying or selling anything themselves either.
Have you actually used Paypal? Somehow I tend to doubt it.
Paypal is owned by ebay right now...but how is this going to work if you buy your adult stuff ON ebay?
Ebay does have a whole adult section where you can buy movies, toys etc etc...so will this effect it?
Fined by the same company that your buying adult things from.
Sounds too me like a double standard in the works. I don't think Paypal is trying to discourage this behavior that it finds objectionable...because if it did, then ebay would remove the entire adult section from it's site also.
Just and observation
The presenter, a filmmaking friend of Conran's, closed the screening with a joke about Pete Townshend meeting Eric Clapton in a London bar and commiserating about some new kid named Hendrix, "who's gonna kick our asses." He imagined that Spielberg and Lucas might soon be having a similar conversation somewhere in California.
So in a couple of years Conran's going to die in a hotel room after a night of drinking?
Well, the candle that burns twice as bright, burns out twice as fast...it's better to burn out, than to fade away...