Your fault for living thousands of miles away from everyone, and expecting the public to pay for a road to your house because you hate living next to other people.
The kid DID cause the initial crash, not the bus drivers. The fact is this accident wouldn't have happened without the kid.
Roads should NOT be used by anybody but professional drivers.
For everyone else, they should take public transportation or use commercial car services/delivery services. 95% of the people on the road should never be allowed to drive.
A drivers license should cost at least $10,000.
This would be the start of a proper transportation infrastructure. Leave driving to professionals, so the general public doesn't waste 2 hours a day on useless labor like driving, when they should be doing something more economically productive like reading or sleeping or programming on a computer.
Really, it's the 21st century, and we force the population to do hours of manual labor per day to even get to work? Make them sit in a car and force them to drive to get to work? They can't read a book or work on their computer while going to work? Really?
Those 50 jobs aren't the only benefits that came out of the data center.
If it costs $1billion to build that data center, then that's $1billion added to the economy, affecting a lot more people than 50 direct employees.
(How many people did it take to actually construct the place? to handle permits for construction? To deliver food for people that handle permits? To handle mail to deliver food to the people that handle permits for construction, etc..)
Jobs created don't provide the overall picture of an economic effect. Actual spending does.
If you do the math, you could GIVE everyone a plane ticket a year on Southwest and come out ahead. Someone needs to put up the reality check of what it actually costs per Resident per year to build and then operate.
Why do you want to give $100 billion to foreign governments? Or do you think oil comes from America?
The half-baked OS became a much better OS when you add a shiny coat of paint on the case and throw out useless junk like PS/2 ports and 3.5" IDE floppy drives.
This is the difference between Jobs and you. You think more things add value.
We started work on the 360 in the 2002 time frame i think. That'll put it at almost 10 years between generations. This was with 90nm processes.
In 2013/2014 time-frame, 15nm processes should be coming online. That'll already lets you put 27x more stuff on chip at the same die size, in addition to clock speed increases.
I'm hoping they ramp up system memory to 16GB and video memory to 2GB. Maybe 4K resolution gaming. They better get rid of any physical media, and make it download only.
This next generation is going to last for 15 years.
In other words, Steve Jobs personally took over the Mac team after visiting Xerox PARC, which lead to the GUI being adopted by the masses through things like a Superbowl commercial and so on.
Indeed much of the core technologies were invented elsewhere.
But this is the discussion about who took the risk in designing the system so that untrained people would use it. Xerox played it safe by pricing the 8120 at $20k-$80k. They targeted professional office users, like every other computer system at the time.
Who else besides Apple decided computers should be intuitively usable by untrained home users? (and therefore, grow the computer industry 100x?)
It's a safe bet. Most startup companies business plans include a goal of being bought out. They were obviously not happy with the sales level of the stand-alone app itself.
In addition, the Siri technology gained a lot more by being bought out.
What Apple does is create something larger than the sum of its parts.
i can't comprehend why you would say this when you seem well aware that apple pretty much invents fuck all, and without these entities whom you think should give up they'd have nothing.
Because startup companies produce products with the goal of being bought out, like say, by Apple.
I guess that you are not aware that Apple purchased the company that made Siri and then immediately stopped the development of the Blackberry and Android versions.
Yep. Well aware of it.
This isn't the discussion about who invents things. The actual invention is the least important aspect of technology.
What matters is this: "Who is going to pay to make sure people actually end up using it?"
It was Apple that decided to take a big risk on creating the system that allows people to use Siri. It was Apple that took a risk to market it to normal people instead of Defense contractors. And so on.
These things don't happen on their own, and success wasn't guaranteed, especially when you have so many people that were against their ideas. But someone had to gamble on it. Apple did. And they won.
Logo was created in 1967 - 15 years before Apple Logo came on the scene. Did you think that Apple invented it?
Yep, but again, this isn't the discussion about who invents something. This is the discussion about who continuously makes an effort and takes risks to simplify human interaction with computers.
Look at smartphones, Windows Mobile phones were around way before the iPhone, but they were never popular in the mainstream because they didn't have the "cool factor"
Also, they sucked.
Like I said, everyone else in the tech industry sucks at design. It's almost obscene how bad the tech industry is at design.
If you want to be cool, you have to first not suck.
Apple gets to be cool because they didn't horribly suck like everyone else.
Siri does look amazing, and will become really useful in a couple of years as developers outside of Apple operate on it.
Right now, I'm just amazed how bad other tech companies are at design. They're REALLY, REALLY bad. Remember when computers were sold with 500 page instruction manuals, and everyone was arguing over who had the better instruction manual, and then Apple comes along, and throws the instruction manual away, and everyone's like WTF? And people liked it, because they manage to design computers to be intuitive.
And theres tons of these stories from Apple. (LOL @ original Slashdot iPod post)
Really, is Apple going to be the only company in the world that gets human interaction? It's staggering how much they've advanced society on their own and all their profound technical achievements.. Are there absolutely NO actual designers at any other tech company? Do they only hire engineers? Is that it?
The only thing that ever came close to Apple over the last 30 years was the introduction of Google search bar, with no other crap around it. (remember the old search engines??)
Seriously, everyone else in the tech industry should just give up. Apple won technology. let them have it. Everyone else in the tech industry, please go back to school. Let Linux die, let Android die, let the PC die. Everyone else should just stop right now and do something else.
Maybe learn painting or drawing or something. Maybe start liking turtles. (remember Apple LOGO??)
I'm guessing the people that don't understand Jobs' influence are probably recent college grads that didn't grow up in the 80s. Jobs influence doesn't just extend to iPad and iPhone made by Apple, but to pretty much every tech company and everyone that has ever used a computer since the beginning of the personal computer age.
Here's a statement that will cause your head to explode: Steve Jobs was responsible for a large percentage of the world's GDP and America's status over the last quarter century.
Would anyone use a computer today without the mouse-based GUI? Maybe the nerds, but no one else. Steve made the connection that the GUI would be the way the average person would use a computer. The inventors certainly didn't make that connection. So now Microsoft Windows exists because of Steve Jobs. Bill Gates certainly wouldn't have made it had it not been for Steve Jobs promoting the GUI concept to the public, starting with an ad on the Superbowl no less.
He got rid of instruction manuals from computers. Would anyone use computers if they had to read 500 pages of instruction manuals? The idiots back in the 80's got into pissing matches to compete over which computers had a bigger instruction manual! Stallman is one of those morons. He wanted everyone to be an expert on computers to use them, which is the opposite of good.
Meanwhile, as Jobs got rid of instruction manuals, he created Desktop Publishing. That alone puts him on the level of Johannes Gutenberg. The Xerox PARC guys certainly didn't care about it enough to find it usable.
The World Wide Web was invented on a NeXT computer that Steve Jobs made, because it had an easier development platform than other systems. Would the web exist without NeXT? Actually, would the web exist without HyperCard being promoted everywhere by Apple years before the Tim Berners Lee made the first web browser? (on a GUI?) Do you REALLY think the web would be invented without Steve Jobs? The non-GUI Gopher already existed, but no one used that.
Just the fact that we're talking alternative what-if scenarios indicate Job's success, since regardless of what-ifs, Jobs actually DID IT.
(would Facebook exist without the web? Would the Arab spring revolution have happened without that?)
Even the most pissy people about Steve Jobs actually uses his products every day. The low-power ARM CPU that all the Android fanboys love these days was designed by a company co-founded by... you guessed it: Apple. This was to implement the Newton PDA, the overall concept which was described in detail by Steve Jobs in the early 80's.
There is absolutely NO reason to underrate him, he really was THE guy that shaped modern society and brought about a true change in the world unlike anyone else over the last 30 years. There were plenty of technologists that brought about single point ideas, and in fact, Jobs didn't invent many of these ideas, but had such a string of success stories like him.
His actual brilliance was as a designer, the art-director type of person that took the complex tools, and simplified them, because he understood humanity, and understood artistic meaning behind an invention that often even the inventors didn't even understand. Other technologists would be dumbfounded if they were presented with a person that didn't give a crap about a higher-speed processor - they just wouldn't know what to do with that type of person that's more interested in how things look than the numbers behind it, because they think numbers are what matters. Billions more people care about how things look than numbers. This recognition allowed Jobs to reach those billions of people.
No politician, no other technologist, no other wealthy person changed global society as much as he did. (name one?)
So, really, let's end this debate. Steve Jobs won these last 30 years.
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the correct answer is to move to the city.
Your fault for living thousands of miles away from everyone, and expecting the public to pay for a road to your house because you hate living next to other people.
And I would include a 2-year driving degree as part of requiring a driver's license.
Make driving a professional-only activity, not something meant for the general public.
We need to take away this waste in our economy.
That relies too much on personal responsibility.
A properly designed system leaves NO room for personal responsibility.
Just take away their cars, then they can't drive while distracted, because they can't drive.
The kid DID cause the initial crash, not the bus drivers. The fact is this accident wouldn't have happened without the kid.
Roads should NOT be used by anybody but professional drivers.
For everyone else, they should take public transportation or use commercial car services/delivery services. 95% of the people on the road should never be allowed to drive.
A drivers license should cost at least $10,000.
This would be the start of a proper transportation infrastructure. Leave driving to professionals, so the general public doesn't waste 2 hours a day on useless labor like driving, when they should be doing something more economically productive like reading or sleeping or programming on a computer.
Really, it's the 21st century, and we force the population to do hours of manual labor per day to even get to work? Make them sit in a car and force them to drive to get to work? They can't read a book or work on their computer while going to work? Really?
You should look up what the word competition means.
What you WISH it means is not actually what it means.
Or, maybe you love monopolies?
So, the whole point of "competition" is to eliminate competitors.
If you want a bunch of small independent companies competing against each other, that means you want one company to win and gain a monopoly position.
Those 50 jobs aren't the only benefits that came out of the data center.
If it costs $1billion to build that data center, then that's $1billion added to the economy, affecting a lot more people than 50 direct employees.
(How many people did it take to actually construct the place? to handle permits for construction? To deliver food for people that handle permits? To handle mail to deliver food to the people that handle permits for construction, etc..)
Jobs created don't provide the overall picture of an economic effect. Actual spending does.
If you do the math, you could GIVE everyone a plane ticket a year on Southwest and come out ahead. Someone needs to put up the reality check of what it actually costs per Resident per year to build and then operate.
Why do you want to give $100 billion to foreign governments? Or do you think oil comes from America?
Maybe you just hate America.
The courts are decided by the government, who is decided by the public.
You'll get over it.
Should google label anything from the US government as terroristic?
These days, no one can really tell who's the good guys, with random bizarre wars and occupations so on.
"These Palestinians looks like they have some pretty good land we Jews can take.. Let's take it with US government funding!"
If he were to have settled somewhere else other than Silicon Valley, he would probably have a successful used car dealership
No. He would be an artist.
Steve Jobs isn't very good at selling - just consider the failure of the original Mac vs. PC.
He's much better at design and creation than sales. He did create the personal computer industry, after all.
I think this has more to do with the Lululemon murder verdict on wednesday than the iPhone 4.
Summary: Self-absorbed Apple store employees ignore screams from a neighboring store where a girl was being murdered: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/whats-scarier-the-slaying-or-the-bystanders-who-heard-and-did-nothing/2011/10/31/gIQA9y2tZM_story.html
There's probably a massive lawsuit coming Apple's way about this.
This could help improve dynamic range on image sensors.
They think engineers like Steve Wozniak and Dennis Ritchie are more influential than the designers like Steve Jobs.
Jobs designed systems. He doesn't design parts.
The half-baked OS became a much better OS when you add a shiny coat of paint on the case and throw out useless junk like PS/2 ports and 3.5" IDE floppy drives.
This is the difference between Jobs and you. You think more things add value.
It's actually less things add value.
We started work on the 360 in the 2002 time frame i think. That'll put it at almost 10 years between generations. This was with 90nm processes.
In 2013/2014 time-frame, 15nm processes should be coming online. That'll already lets you put 27x more stuff on chip at the same die size, in addition to clock speed increases.
I'm hoping they ramp up system memory to 16GB and video memory to 2GB. Maybe 4K resolution gaming. They better get rid of any physical media, and make it download only.
This next generation is going to last for 15 years.
In other words, Steve Jobs personally took over the Mac team after visiting Xerox PARC, which lead to the GUI being adopted by the masses through things like a Superbowl commercial and so on.
Thank you Steve Jobs.
Indeed much of the core technologies were invented elsewhere.
But this is the discussion about who took the risk in designing the system so that untrained people would use it. Xerox played it safe by pricing the 8120 at $20k-$80k. They targeted professional office users, like every other computer system at the time.
Who else besides Apple decided computers should be intuitively usable by untrained home users? (and therefore, grow the computer industry 100x?)
It's a safe bet. Most startup companies business plans include a goal of being bought out. They were obviously not happy with the sales level of the stand-alone app itself.
In addition, the Siri technology gained a lot more by being bought out.
What Apple does is create something larger than the sum of its parts.
i can't comprehend why you would say this when you seem well aware that apple pretty much invents fuck all, and without these entities whom you think should give up they'd have nothing.
Because startup companies produce products with the goal of being bought out, like say, by Apple.
You're welcome.
I guess that you are not aware that Apple purchased the company that made Siri and then immediately stopped the development of the Blackberry and Android versions.
Yep. Well aware of it.
This isn't the discussion about who invents things. The actual invention is the least important aspect of technology.
What matters is this: "Who is going to pay to make sure people actually end up using it?"
It was Apple that decided to take a big risk on creating the system that allows people to use Siri. It was Apple that took a risk to market it to normal people instead of Defense contractors. And so on.
These things don't happen on their own, and success wasn't guaranteed, especially when you have so many people that were against their ideas. But someone had to gamble on it. Apple did. And they won.
Logo was created in 1967 - 15 years before Apple Logo came on the scene. Did you think that Apple invented it?
Yep, but again, this isn't the discussion about who invents something. This is the discussion about who continuously makes an effort and takes risks to simplify human interaction with computers.
Yah. They sucked.
Repeat after me: Window Mobile sucked.
Go on. You can say it.
Look at smartphones, Windows Mobile phones were around way before the iPhone, but they were never popular in the mainstream because they didn't have the "cool factor"
Also, they sucked.
Like I said, everyone else in the tech industry sucks at design. It's almost obscene how bad the tech industry is at design.
If you want to be cool, you have to first not suck.
Apple gets to be cool because they didn't horribly suck like everyone else.
Siri does look amazing, and will become really useful in a couple of years as developers outside of Apple operate on it.
Right now, I'm just amazed how bad other tech companies are at design. They're REALLY, REALLY bad. Remember when computers were sold with 500 page instruction manuals, and everyone was arguing over who had the better instruction manual, and then Apple comes along, and throws the instruction manual away, and everyone's like WTF? And people liked it, because they manage to design computers to be intuitive.
And theres tons of these stories from Apple. (LOL @ original Slashdot iPod post)
Really, is Apple going to be the only company in the world that gets human interaction? It's staggering how much they've advanced society on their own and all their profound technical achievements.. Are there absolutely NO actual designers at any other tech company? Do they only hire engineers? Is that it?
The only thing that ever came close to Apple over the last 30 years was the introduction of Google search bar, with no other crap around it. (remember the old search engines??)
Seriously, everyone else in the tech industry should just give up. Apple won technology. let them have it. Everyone else in the tech industry, please go back to school. Let Linux die, let Android die, let the PC die. Everyone else should just stop right now and do something else.
Maybe learn painting or drawing or something. Maybe start liking turtles. (remember Apple LOGO??)
I'm guessing the people that don't understand Jobs' influence are probably recent college grads that didn't grow up in the 80s. Jobs influence doesn't just extend to iPad and iPhone made by Apple, but to pretty much every tech company and everyone that has ever used a computer since the beginning of the personal computer age.
Here's a statement that will cause your head to explode: Steve Jobs was responsible for a large percentage of the world's GDP and America's status over the last quarter century.
Would anyone use a computer today without the mouse-based GUI? Maybe the nerds, but no one else. Steve made the connection that the GUI would be the way the average person would use a computer. The inventors certainly didn't make that connection. So now Microsoft Windows exists because of Steve Jobs. Bill Gates certainly wouldn't have made it had it not been for Steve Jobs promoting the GUI concept to the public, starting with an ad on the Superbowl no less.
He got rid of instruction manuals from computers. Would anyone use computers if they had to read 500 pages of instruction manuals? The idiots back in the 80's got into pissing matches to compete over which computers had a bigger instruction manual! Stallman is one of those morons. He wanted everyone to be an expert on computers to use them, which is the opposite of good.
Meanwhile, as Jobs got rid of instruction manuals, he created Desktop Publishing. That alone puts him on the level of Johannes Gutenberg. The Xerox PARC guys certainly didn't care about it enough to find it usable.
The World Wide Web was invented on a NeXT computer that Steve Jobs made, because it had an easier development platform than other systems. Would the web exist without NeXT? Actually, would the web exist without HyperCard being promoted everywhere by Apple years before the Tim Berners Lee made the first web browser? (on a GUI?) Do you REALLY think the web would be invented without Steve Jobs? The non-GUI Gopher already existed, but no one used that.
Just the fact that we're talking alternative what-if scenarios indicate Job's success, since regardless of what-ifs, Jobs actually DID IT.
(would Facebook exist without the web? Would the Arab spring revolution have happened without that?)
Even the most pissy people about Steve Jobs actually uses his products every day. The low-power ARM CPU that all the Android fanboys love these days was designed by a company co-founded by ... you guessed it: Apple. This was to implement the Newton PDA, the overall concept which was described in detail by Steve Jobs in the early 80's.
His influence goes right up to today, with Siri for example. In fact, here's an interview with Steve Jobs from 1984, talking about Siri: http://newsweek.tumblr.com/post/11109366062/steve-jobs-basically-introduces-siri-in-1984
There is absolutely NO reason to underrate him, he really was THE guy that shaped modern society and brought about a true change in the world unlike anyone else over the last 30 years. There were plenty of technologists that brought about single point ideas, and in fact, Jobs didn't invent many of these ideas, but had such a string of success stories like him.
His actual brilliance was as a designer, the art-director type of person that took the complex tools, and simplified them, because he understood humanity, and understood artistic meaning behind an invention that often even the inventors didn't even understand. Other technologists would be dumbfounded if they were presented with a person that didn't give a crap about a higher-speed processor - they just wouldn't know what to do with that type of person that's more interested in how things look than the numbers behind it, because they think numbers are what matters. Billions more people care about how things look than numbers. This recognition allowed Jobs to reach those billions of people.
No politician, no other technologist, no other wealthy person changed global society as much as he did. (name one?)
So, really, let's end this debate. Steve Jobs won these last 30 years.