Maybe not in up front dollars...But if any open source package gets "huge" or becomes a "killer app" then being one of the "core developers" will mean much on the old Resume. Ask Linus or some of the Apache folks.
In the medical field (and in some degrees education) it is considered a huge career boost to get "published" in a journal....Considering the amount of money a Dr. makes -- just getting a concept or research published does not make tons of cash -- but the future dollars he makes "because" he was published are very big!
P.S. -- I work for a big Fortune 500 company and Snort has been all the rage this year so far. (Last year it was Apache).....
I read the article and added it to my ".com stories to get sick from" and decided that maybe the internet would be a better place if the people out to make money would just pack their bags and go away. I could do just fine surfing around looking at not-for-profit sites that people run as a hobby and maybe pour a hundred bucks or so a month into. And there would always be USENET, IRC, P2P and other ways to hang out.
I think there may be a place for selling goods and services online -- but marketing and advertising is where the devils congregate...And the second a legit business gets into bed with the devil -- they become evil by association and deserve to spend the rest of their misserable existence with toothpicks holding their eyelids open as they watch their stock go to 0.
*nix desktops grabbing a few more percentage points. I think there is a fairly large user base of people that although not tech savvy enough to already be a *nix head -- but are smart enough and well educated enough to know when someone (microsoft) is putting the screws in them and turning 1/8 of a turn every few months. Although I know that some of these people are already Mac users....But given time...anything can happen.
User A broke the law -- he was caught -- computers seized. The article says that no arrests were made (to bad). I am sure they will have there day in court. A crime is a crime. Just because it involves computers and this is a techy site (thus spurring some "sympathy" posts) doesn't make it any less of a crime. Commit the crime..do the time. What kills me is that people who pirate software or in this case steal bandwidth -- or in years past with people like Mitnick cell phone service -- still know that it is wrong to steal a car or break into someones house...Yet seem ignorant to think that just because they are "experts" in tech -- that they can commit computer or tech related crimes and have them not be crimes. That is like someone on Wallstreet thinking that it is OK for them to steal money because they are "experts" in the field.
I recently found myself in a similar situation when my Daily self-published internet column [aardvark.co.nz] finally became just too much of a drain on my finances and I was faced with shutting it down after seven years of work.
Maybe you were funneling to much cash into your hobbies:) All kidding aside...I had a "blast" of a time reading about your Jet-Kart
That movie "Brewsters Millions"? (He had to spend so much cash in a short period of time in order to inherit much more cash with certain stipulations...) I don't think most people could blow $75 Meeeelion dollars even on a real company without turning some sort of profit along the way....Hell you would make all these crazy expenditures -- and you would start to get customers and sale products by accident somewhere around $25 Million...:) Hell you could create a business selling tumbleweeds or rocks and dirt delivered from the arizona desert in little baggies on the concord -- and one day a busload of Japanese tourists would show up at the doorstep....errrr....I ain't gonna make my quota of losing $75 million if these damn busses keep showing up!!! Ahhh....Lets take this business online if we really want to lose some big money....But damn....we have a product --- the tumbleweeds are flying of the shelf....we are overnighting these things to Japan on the Space Shuttle and still only $43 million in the hole....
Sorry -- I am no business man....But fail to see how a website can spend that kind of dough....(I am sure bandwidth and server costs are only a drop in the bucket.....) And what does this say about the 40K people who have paid??? That is real income --- yet they still can't make money....
Good points. I guess most American Citizens would be OK with the fact that the ones being detained are the "bad guys"....And it is easy to make that assumption if it is always -- "someone else"....But imagine that being you....(maybe you were joking with a friend in an airport about a bomb, or you were having a sarcastic conversation on your cell phone...etc...etc..)
Much like my belief in the Death Penelty was pretty much shreaded when I read the story of people let go 20 years later (and a precious few steps from the "green mile") because the REAL killer was caught...or DNA evidence proved otherwise. I had always been ignorant to the fact that "if they were found guilty -- then 100% of them must have done it...." it's scary to think that a certain percentage may have not done anything....Except not have a good enough alibi.
I guess I could always use my Pentium II 266MMX for a 3rd level backup for my firewall if I can find one of these magic Athlon $99 speed demons you are talking about....
Hmmm..Sounds like they should be getting kickbacks from Maxtor, Nvidia, and Micron for making sure you have to have a screaming PC to play the same game that can be played on a PS2. (I know that the PS2 is pretty fast as far as consoles go...But having to have a 64 meg Vid card, 4.5 Gigs of HD space, 128 Megs of memory, and a fast CPU -- makes me wonder why they can't optimize a bit on the PC side).
BTW -- I am having oodles of fun playing Warcraft II and Red Alert on my Pentium 200MMX laptop with 1.5 megs of Video Ram and 64 Megs of memory -- Sad that game companies nowdays think that resource rape will make up for clever design and gameplay. I will clap loudly for any company that can publish a 2002 game that does not require the latest 3D card and oodles of CPU and memory to be fun.
How do I purchase CD's that have been OOP for years Mr.Smart Ass? I never minded buying a CD that is on the shelf or even buying a CD that can be ordered out of the big yellow (or blue) book. But how about a CD that is OOP or even worse an LP that never even made the journey to CD. (And paying $100.00 on ebay is a little tooooo expensive)
Amen. Me to. This is a baaaad thing. Most of the artists I downloaded from AG have been working at BK since the Internet has been big, and the only chance of finding catalog music of them in the record stores is about like finding clean water in Mexico.
RIAA is like Mack Bolan -- they are now fighting there private wars with a War Chest of dollars garnished from their enemies.
United Linux is like the bottom 4 teams in a league combining forces to take on the champions. (Basically you have the best of the worst taking on the winners.)
The last thing businesses want to do is continually reinstall new distributions all of the time in order to get the new versions of applications -- imagine in the MS world having (or perceivably having) to upgrade from Win98 to Windows 2000 to use Office2000 or the new Windows Media player --- etc, etc. I think the big winner (functionally) will be the distribution that ends the need (or perceived need) to constantly have to install new distributions every 6 months -- just to get the upgraded applications. I would like to see the ability to easily go from say KDE 2 to KDE 3 from within a distribution without having to upgrade to a new point release distribution. I know that you can go to KDE's site and go through RPM hell to manually upgrade the RPMS's one at a time -- or you can add a "special" line in your sources.lst file in some cases to get new versions in the Debian world -- or you can use the source and compile yourself, but we are talking about my Mom and Grandma here...
The only time someone should have to go through a full reinstall of the whole ball of wax should be every few years. Not every 6 months. It should be easy to keep applications up to date or on the bleeding edge -- without compromising or reinstalling the base distribution.
I have a hard enough time keeping track of my team now that they sit all together. I would have to pack a lunch and a compass for code walk throughs in a situation like this.
Yes they could make these changes. Will they - no. Reason -- They do not want to piss off the commercial interests that rely on pop-up ads to make money. Same reason netscape will never do it. This is why Mozilla will become the standard for people who want a better browsong experience.
well the ability to turn off javascript popup windows and such (stuff you will never see IE or Netscape do)....is a big enough reason for some of the IE diehards I work around....And I have yet to see tabbed browsing on IE. Face it -- there are some "killer" features that will send the cocky IE packing...
RedHat is not the leader because the distribution is any better than the umpteen million other distributions. It is the leader because of name recognition and good leadership and money management. They were able to "brave the lean years" and somehow put a product ON THE SHELVES of Best Buy, CompUSA, etc....Without millions of dollars of VC or.COM wet dreams, etc...etc. Most people recognize stability in existence and lifespan much more than the average/. user would.
Sure if Suse, TL, Caldera, et all....Get together and combine strengths -- they may get a superior product out there -- but will still lag behind RedHat in the aboved mentioned categories.
Upgrade everyone to Linux and have 1 or 2 "Terminal Servers" with NT or 2000. Each user could have a copy of the Citrix client on Linux. If they ever get a document they can't convert or in a pinch they need to do something in a windows environment they can login to the TS and do their business. (I say this not noing the cost of such a setup -- but we have a TS farm at work and it works great when we need to test our webapps on IE for the legions of MS clones out there.)
Go watch it again. There is much more
than implication --- It is clear to see the "Anny" respects and admires Palp. In their seen together Palp. goes a long way to "pat" Anny on the back and talk about how he is going to be a bigger bad ass than Mace and Yoda put together -- and that good ole' buddy Palp will be there with bells on when it happens. VERY clear forshadowing from where I was sitting.
(Outsourcing to a team of 3 in India) for 4 years now. The answer is simple -- spend much time getting the technical and functional documentation together!!! Main problem: In order to have the kind of documentation it takes to make it smooth and productive -- the time involved from your team in the US to prepare the kind of detailed details -- (in a lot of cases) you could have spent that time doing the actual programming....because the design, specs, examples, revisions, etc, etc....usually are akin to the end product minus the time it takes to type the code in.
P.S. -- make sure they have a fast connection direct into your network.
Maybe not in up front dollars...But if any open source package gets "huge" or becomes a "killer app" then being one of the "core developers" will mean much on the old Resume. Ask Linus or some of the Apache folks.
In the medical field (and in some degrees education) it is considered a huge career boost to get "published" in a journal....Considering the amount of money a Dr. makes -- just getting a concept or research published does not make tons of cash -- but the future dollars he makes "because" he was published are very big!
P.S. -- I work for a big Fortune 500 company and Snort has been all the rage this year so far. (Last year it was Apache).....
I read the article and added it to my ".com stories to get sick from" and decided that maybe the internet would be a better place if the people out to make money would just pack their bags and go away. I could do just fine surfing around looking at not-for-profit sites that people run as a hobby and maybe pour a hundred bucks or so a month into. And there would always be USENET, IRC, P2P and other ways to hang out.
I think there may be a place for selling goods and services online -- but marketing and advertising is where the devils congregate...And the second a legit business gets into bed with the devil -- they become evil by association and deserve to spend the rest of their misserable existence with toothpicks holding their eyelids open as they watch their stock go to 0.
I may be late on this but dotphoto.com does 4x6 prints for 19 cents VS. 39-49 cents from everyone else.
*nix desktops grabbing a few more percentage points. I think there is a fairly large user base of people that although not tech savvy enough to already be a *nix head -- but are smart enough and well educated enough to know when someone (microsoft) is putting the screws in them and turning 1/8 of a turn every few months. Although I know that some of these people are already Mac users....But given time...anything can happen.
User A broke the law -- he was caught -- computers seized. The article says that no arrests were made (to bad). I am sure they will have there day in court. A crime is a crime. Just because it involves computers and this is a techy site (thus spurring some "sympathy" posts) doesn't make it any less of a crime. Commit the crime..do the time. What kills me is that people who pirate software or in this case steal bandwidth -- or in years past with people like Mitnick cell phone service -- still know that it is wrong to steal a car or break into someones house...Yet seem ignorant to think that just because they are "experts" in tech -- that they can commit computer or tech related crimes and have them not be crimes. That is like someone on Wallstreet thinking that it is OK for them to steal money because they are "experts" in the field.
"only in cases where it's not questionable about who did it "
Ya thats about what I ended up at. If their is no doubt then fry em....If there is doubt or no real evidence then it's hard to say.
I guess less than they make....or they would not be in business after all of these years.
I recently found myself in a similar situation when my Daily self-published internet column [aardvark.co.nz] finally became just too much of a drain on my finances and I was faced with shutting it down after seven years of work.
Maybe you were funneling to much cash into your hobbies
That movie "Brewsters Millions"? (He had to spend so much cash in a short period of time in order to inherit much more cash with certain stipulations...) I don't think most people could blow $75 Meeeelion dollars even on a real company without turning some sort of profit along the way....Hell you would make all these crazy expenditures -- and you would start to get customers and sale products by accident somewhere around $25 Million...:) Hell you could create a business selling tumbleweeds or rocks and dirt delivered from the arizona desert in little baggies on the concord -- and one day a busload of Japanese tourists would show up at the doorstep....errrr....I ain't gonna make my quota of losing $75 million if these damn busses keep showing up!!! Ahhh....Lets take this business online if we really want to lose some big money....But damn....we have a product --- the tumbleweeds are flying of the shelf....we are overnighting these things to Japan on the Space Shuttle and still only $43 million in the hole....
Sorry -- I am no business man....But fail to see how a website can spend that kind of dough....(I am sure bandwidth and server costs are only a drop in the bucket.....) And what does this say about the 40K people who have paid??? That is real income --- yet they still can't make money....
I 2nd that....Fluxbox rules all
Good points. I guess most American Citizens would be OK with the fact that the ones being detained are the "bad guys"....And it is easy to make that assumption if it is always -- "someone else"....But imagine that being you....(maybe you were joking with a friend in an airport about a bomb, or you were having a sarcastic conversation on your cell phone...etc...etc..)
Much like my belief in the Death Penelty was pretty much shreaded when I read the story of people let go 20 years later (and a precious few steps from the "green mile") because the REAL killer was caught...or DNA evidence proved otherwise. I had always been ignorant to the fact that "if they were found guilty -- then 100% of them must have done it...." it's scary to think that a certain percentage may have not done anything....Except not have a good enough alibi.
I guess I could always use my Pentium II 266MMX for a 3rd level backup for my firewall if I can find one of these magic Athlon $99 speed demons you are talking about....
Hmmm..Sounds like they should be getting kickbacks from Maxtor, Nvidia, and Micron for making sure you have to have a screaming PC to play the same game that can be played on a PS2. (I know that the PS2 is pretty fast as far as consoles go...But having to have a 64 meg Vid card, 4.5 Gigs of HD space, 128 Megs of memory, and a fast CPU -- makes me wonder why they can't optimize a bit on the PC side).
BTW -- I am having oodles of fun playing Warcraft II and Red Alert on my Pentium 200MMX laptop with 1.5 megs of Video Ram and 64 Megs of memory -- Sad that game companies nowdays think that resource rape will make up for clever design and gameplay. I will clap loudly for any company that can publish a 2002 game that does not require the latest 3D card and oodles of CPU and memory to be fun.
How do I purchase CD's that have been OOP for years Mr.Smart Ass? I never minded buying a CD that is on the shelf or even buying a CD that can be ordered out of the big yellow (or blue) book. But how about a CD that is OOP or even worse an LP that never even made the journey to CD. (And paying $100.00 on ebay is a little tooooo expensive)
Amen. Me to. This is a baaaad thing. Most of the artists I downloaded from AG have been working at BK since the Internet has been big, and the only chance of finding catalog music of them in the record stores is about like finding clean water in Mexico.
RIAA is like Mack Bolan -- they are now fighting there private wars with a War Chest of dollars garnished from their enemies.
A sports analogy:
United Linux is like the bottom 4 teams in a league combining forces to take on the champions. (Basically you have the best of the worst taking on the winners.)
The last thing businesses want to do is continually reinstall new distributions all of the time in order to get the new versions of applications -- imagine in the MS world having (or perceivably having) to upgrade from Win98 to Windows 2000 to use Office2000 or the new Windows Media player --- etc, etc. I think the big winner (functionally) will be the distribution that ends the need (or perceived need) to constantly have to install new distributions every 6 months -- just to get the upgraded applications. I would like to see the ability to easily go from say KDE 2 to KDE 3 from within a distribution without having to upgrade to a new point release distribution. I know that you can go to KDE's site and go through RPM hell to manually upgrade the RPMS's one at a time -- or you can add a "special" line in your sources.lst file in some cases to get new versions in the Debian world -- or you can use the source and compile yourself, but we are talking about my Mom and Grandma here...
The only time someone should have to go through a full reinstall of the whole ball of wax should be every few years. Not every 6 months. It should be easy to keep applications up to date or on the bleeding edge -- without compromising or reinstalling the base distribution.
I have a hard enough time keeping track of my team now that they sit all together. I would have to pack a lunch and a compass for code walk throughs in a situation like this.
Yes they could make these changes. Will they - no. Reason -- They do not want to piss off the commercial interests that rely on pop-up ads to make money. Same reason netscape will never do it. This is why Mozilla will become the standard for people who want a better browsong experience.
well the ability to turn off javascript popup windows and such (stuff you will never see IE or Netscape do)....is a big enough reason for some of the IE diehards I work around....And I have yet to see tabbed browsing on IE. Face it -- there are some "killer" features that will send the cocky IE packing...
Yea -- it is a hard decision, every time my wife drains the color & black carts on her inket:
Black Cart replace: $25
Color Cart(s) replace: 3 x $12 = $36
Total: $61
Cost of brand new printer: $55 - $150
Imagine having to pay 40% of the price of a car every time you filled the gas tank.
RedHat is not the leader because the distribution is any better than the umpteen million other distributions. It is the leader because of name recognition and good leadership and money management. They were able to "brave the lean years" and somehow put a product ON THE SHELVES of Best Buy, CompUSA, etc....Without millions of dollars of VC or .COM wet dreams, etc...etc. Most people recognize stability in existence and lifespan much more than the average /. user would.
Sure if Suse, TL, Caldera, et all....Get together and combine strengths -- they may get a superior product out there -- but will still lag behind RedHat in the aboved mentioned categories.
Upgrade everyone to Linux and have 1 or 2 "Terminal Servers" with NT or 2000. Each user could have a copy of the Citrix client on Linux. If they ever get a document they can't convert or in a pinch they need to do something in a windows environment they can login to the TS and do their business. (I say this not noing the cost of such a setup -- but we have a TS farm at work and it works great when we need to test our webapps on IE for the legions of MS clones out there.)
Check out NP's outfit on Dave as I type this. Full frontal assault!!!
Warning...Intellectual Spoiler
Go watch it again. There is much more than implication --- It is clear to see the "Anny" respects and admires Palp. In their seen together Palp. goes a long way to "pat" Anny on the back and talk about how he is going to be a bigger bad ass than Mace and Yoda put together -- and that good ole' buddy Palp will be there with bells on when it happens. VERY clear forshadowing from where I was sitting.
(Outsourcing to a team of 3 in India) for 4 years now. The answer is simple -- spend much time getting the technical and functional documentation together!!! Main problem: In order to have the kind of documentation it takes to make it smooth and productive -- the time involved from your team in the US to prepare the kind of detailed details -- (in a lot of cases) you could have spent that time doing the actual programming....because the design, specs, examples, revisions, etc, etc....usually are akin to the end product minus the time it takes to type the code in.
P.S. -- make sure they have a fast connection direct into your network.