>At any rate, neither DHTML nor CSS are IE
> specific features, so you have no idea what
>you're talking about to begin with..How did your
>post get moderated up?
Ahh...Believe it or not -- IE has found some way to add extensibility to DHTML/CSS that go "above and beyond" what the "meak" w3c had published. Thus all it takes is one page to rely on these extensions in a way that it disturbs the intended usage, navigation and look of their page -- to alienate the browsers who stuck to the w3c published standards. Have you been in a cave?
I have to admit that it will be good to be on this side of the fence during a brute force conversion of browsers (AOL to Netscape/Mozilla). I would love for some of these sites that use IE specific features of CSS or DHTML (or god forbid ActiveX) having 35 million screaming AOL users at their doors.
The fact that it holds 40 megs per disk has nothing to do with the fact that it can indeed play OGG files.....(BTW -- 40 megs is a lot if you are listening to audio books at 24K)
The market was left wide open when none of them left the gate with online support (modem and/or (preferablly AND) nic). Can you imagine how the gap would have been increased if PS2 would have at least came out of the gate with the online savvy of the Dreamcast? (** For you kids: the Dreamcast was an older generation system from Sega that ruled the earth before the PS2/Xbox/GC wars of 2002.)
Or on the other hand -- what if the Xbox would of came out of the gate with online support -- it would have had a better chance closing the gap between the PS2. To me the competitive advantage in the crowded marketplace with the big money players is not only how many quality games do we have --- but what makes game a, genre a --- on system A better on which platforms....It's all about options and implementations, a much smarter (and more finicky) crowd than when us old farts were trying to decide between Atari/Coleco/TI,etc....
>The mozilla team should thank the gator software company and evil commie bastard marketing reps around the world.
Yea - i know of 3 diehard IE users who have gone 100% to mozilla because of the pop-up blocking option. Any idea why Bill and the boys have not found it in their hearts to add this to IE? It is a very good thing for Moz and Opera that IE refuses to add a feature that most web users are deeming one of the most needed features ever.
The sickest part of the whole ball of wax is that in the story Gator claims to have 13 million users. So much the same as a spammer can be successful by blasting 1 million emails and have 1000 "suckers" reply with interest....So can gator be succesful when only a small percentage of people are savvy enough to click on "NO".
Thus to the scumbags that look on -- this is a very fruitful way of doing business. Hence, the internet has turned into a big pile of rubbish way beyond the traditional (high cost) damage of telemarketers and junk (snail)mailers. A low cost way to reach the vulnurable. At some point those with the intelect must stand tall and say "NO MORE". Those developers that work at companies that do business this way should find employment elseware or forever bear the burden that will smitten them to geek hell (an afterlife of no mountain dew and no simpsons reruns).
I only need to look up at the big flasy blue and white banner ad contrasting on the green and white/. layout to see that this is a frontier where the ad-mongers and marketing sect have thrown not only ethics to the wind but also taste.
Yea right. If it was so easy for these players to support OGG, at least 1 in the 1000000 hardware mp3 players would have added support. Face it -- something is standing in the way that will not allow these players to decode and play OGG files. Until this barrier is broken, ogg will not be of much use.
How about a book on how tech workers should treat their managers? As a former tech worker turned manager I would be more than happy to see the developers get "purks" above and beyond all the "less" intelligent people --- however at that point they better earn it....Don't rest on what you know today -- go home and hack away and learn the new technology and toolsets....Einstein was not a one trick pony that came up with 1 good idea and lived off of that the rest of his live --- he continued to invent.
Well the article says that this technology is adapted from the process that goes into the theft proof tags that set the buzzers off on the doors of a merchant to stop thieves. My guess is that with a little tweaking this can be used not only to determine when your glass is empty but also to set of an alarm if you cross the threshold from the bar to the parking lot with a few of these glasses in your pockets.
Me running my 24K, 10 stream hobby station that peaks at about 2 listeners. I would sure hate to have to pay the same as the big boys....Or even have to comply to ANY rules that they have to....Considering it would take 1 lawyer per ear in the audience to even do anything about this....
Looked through all of the documentation for this and could not find anywhere that stated weather sash (windows or linux version) had the ability to work with ODBC or any other API's (OCI for oracle, or the MySQL API, etc) If not then this would be of little use for anything above and beyond your typical "Hello World", or "Ticker App" (reading from a flat file of course:)
To see what it does however here is a link of a one page example that explains it better than reading the whole book!
She never met a sign up form she did not like. (plus I think that a lot of sites she visits fund their bandwidth bills by "sharing" their user list with a few "select" devils....) I usually visit "tech type" sites like/. , etc....where people could not get away with things like that -- but you would not believe the sort of stuff that goes on in places on the web where "normal hobbyists" gather.....The marketers are out in full force -- and hide in the corner like wolves taking on innocent prey. (Kind of like the prOn sites without the prOn, so to speak -- same marketing tools being used to prey upon people who may be interested in such harmless things such as basket weaving, cooking, sewing, and other things that non-techies might find the web usefull for.)
I loved this topic so I thought I would bring it up with my wife....Who although a technophobe, discovered the web and email a few years back -- and learned to use search engines and email clients. I noticed that her use is down a bunch in the last year, so I asked her why --- and it boiled down to the constant bombardment from companies splattering flashy ads and countless popups in her face.....And her amount of Spam easily hides any legitimate emails that might creep through. She says she is tired digging through 40 junk emails to find the 1 email from her sister. I myself have countered the effect fairly well by using procmail filters and the new features of decent browsers that let you turn off popups. But you can't expect your casual, non tech user to take all of these steps. (Yet these people still get annoyed with spam, in your face flashing ads, and popups flying all over their desktops...)
I have seen with multiple content management applications is as follows:
Most content managers create an AutoIndex feature that works similar "in theory" of a web search engine such as google. When adding static html files as objects into the system --- this works great because it is able to index the content of the HTML pages with pretty good "searchability"... where it falls flat is when it comes to dynamic pages that rely on database queries and criteria for the content (.cfm,.php,.asp, etc.) At least on the "web side" of our content management process -- this is causing all sorts of issues when trying to add dynamic pages as objects into the various products. (We already have the source control issue handled with mks -- but since 90% of our pages are dynamic -- most of the benefits of traditional "content management" have yet to be realized in areas where the content gets created on the fly --- turns search engines to mush.)
Good point. Even though I despise Microsoft...I have to admit that if you find your self in a position where you have to use a spreadsheet every day...there really is nothing to compare to Excel. On the surface a well placed grid control and Number and Letter tags on the left and top of your screen appears to be a spreadsheet --- but once you actually have to start depending on one in order to be able to go home in the evening, its hard to compare.
4 years of waiting with baited breath for the articles that say "obscure hardware item X now works under Linux -- the Windows software has been succesfully reverse engineered, and now we have 25% functionality in Linux" --- and now we have taken a step back -- We are waiting with baited breath for a piece of hardware to be usable under Windows....Hell what is the chance that this will ever be usable under Linux??
I disappoint enough people in real life without having to shatter the mind of some poor virtual bastard too.
Thats some funny stuff! (Put some laughs into an otherwise dull day...Well except when "Lifes Been Good..." came up on my playlist...that was not to bad)
From The article:
One place StarOffice falls down -- and falls down hard -- is its inability to work with WordPerfect files,
Maybe a hard pill to swallow for the desktop users who "fell" for the whole WP for Linux thing a year or so back (when in reality it was more akin to WP for Windows running under WINE -- than a native office suite..) Needless to say, if they were able to get a few documents created with the whole WP thing -- then chances are they would want to open and work with them in Star Office, right??? I hope they get this worked out. OTOH -- it is nice to see some commercial software making a go for the linux Desktop. (I wish IBM would dust off some of the old Lotus stuff and give it a run:)
Yes times are hard. 20 developers worked for me before the "recession". 15 work now. The herd has been culled....The 5 that have parted were OK developers -- but then again, I am an OK driver -- does that make me eligible to be a professional race car driver??? -- most likely not. It would be hard for me to believe that the economy is so bad that the professionals are looking for work. I see different -- the professionals are as busy as ever....The amateur's and recent grads with no work history may be hurting a bit...But thats what "culling the hurd" means.
There was a way to take the money being donated to or VC'd to all of these different distributions and somehow take the value added features (easy install, hardware detection, control panel, etc... etc.. etc..) and merge these changes into Debian. This is not a plug for Debian from a usibility standpoint, but a plug from a reality and longevity standpoint. All of these distributions very existence other than Debian rely on the almighty $$$ to further their life. Each day is a tightrope -- will this company be able to distribute security patches, or even make payroll??? -- who knows, it's a crapshoot....The ironic thing is that the best examples of utter finacial failure have been distributions that were built upon debian. This is NOT rpm VS. apt --- this is community VS. commercial.... and it is proven that when the dust settles, the community remains, and the commercial is liquidating assets, missing payroll, and guest starring on fuc*&dcompany.... HOW MANY commercial distributions have to go under before the masses realize that the best way to market a free product is to keep it free. And for those of us that want to pay -- we will learn to send our money somewhere where it is building on the future of Linux -- and not to pay for another week of life for a choking commercial product...that may not be gone in a month -- but most likely will not be able to supply you a security patch in 6 months....
Ouch. The words mission critical would be a hard enough job for an established company like IBM to live up to....Let alone a fly by night company thats not even going to be around to distribute the next security patch that just might make your "Mission Critical" server go up in a pile of smoke because of a division by zero error or something:)
I don't think Slashdot charging fees is a big deal in itself. (Not anymore of a big deal than a single polar ice cap melting is to global warming --- or the cutting of a single batch of trees in the rainforests is to yadda, yadda...)
I.E. -- $5 bucks a month to slashdot most people can manage. But what if you had to pay $5 bucks a month to each of the sites that are linked in/. articles??? On top of all the fees you have to pay to get on the internet in the first place (that keep going up by a "harmless" dollar here, and "harmless" dollar there -- when all of a sudden my cable modem that cost $35 a month 2 years ago is $50 a month now.) The sum of all the nickels and dimes soon will exceed everyones paychecks....(well except for the people who are skiing and golfing, and don't care about the cheap thrill of being online anyway....:)
at the details (id3 tags used as appointments) this has about as much relevance as the guy who makes a swimming pool by placing a hose in the back of a pickup truck.... This could be done with any MP3 player that supports id3 tags and subfolders. Why not step back 2 years and look at the mp3 players that had (semi)-REAL pims built into them. The second generation mpman (MP-F30) comes to mind, I owned one and it worked great in linux, and also let me store phone numbers, contacts, etc....Not much of a threat to the PDA market...
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Finally a good reason to try KDE.
>At any rate, neither DHTML nor CSS are IE
> specific features, so you have no idea what
>you're talking about to begin with..How did your
>post get moderated up?
Ahh...Believe it or not -- IE has found some way to add extensibility to DHTML/CSS that go "above and beyond" what the "meak" w3c had published. Thus all it takes is one page to rely on these extensions in a way that it disturbs the intended usage, navigation and look of their page -- to alienate the browsers who stuck to the w3c published standards. Have you been in a cave?
I have to admit that it will be good to be on this side of the fence during a brute force conversion of browsers (AOL to Netscape/Mozilla). I would love for some of these sites that use IE specific features of CSS or DHTML (or god forbid ActiveX) having 35 million screaming AOL users at their doors.
The fact that it holds 40 megs per disk has nothing to do with the fact that it can indeed play OGG files.....(BTW -- 40 megs is a lot if you are listening to audio books at 24K)
The market was left wide open when none of them left the gate with online support (modem and/or (preferablly AND) nic). Can you imagine how the gap would have been increased if PS2 would have at least came out of the gate with the online savvy of the Dreamcast? (** For you kids: the Dreamcast was an older generation system from Sega that ruled the earth before the PS2/Xbox/GC wars of 2002.)
Or on the other hand -- what if the Xbox would of came out of the gate with online support -- it would have had a better chance closing the gap between the PS2. To me the competitive advantage in the crowded marketplace with the big money players is not only how many quality games do we have --- but what makes game a, genre a --- on system A better on which platforms....It's all about options and implementations, a much smarter (and more finicky) crowd than when us old farts were trying to decide between Atari/Coleco/TI,etc....
>The mozilla team should thank the gator software company and evil commie bastard marketing reps around the world.
Yea - i know of 3 diehard IE users who have gone 100% to mozilla because of the pop-up blocking option. Any idea why Bill and the boys have not found it in their hearts to add this to IE? It is a very good thing for Moz and Opera that IE refuses to add a feature that most web users are deeming one of the most needed features ever.
The sickest part of the whole ball of wax is that in the story Gator claims to have 13 million users. So much the same as a spammer can be successful by blasting 1 million emails and have 1000 "suckers" reply with interest....So can gator be succesful when only a small percentage of people are savvy enough to click on "NO".
Thus to the scumbags that look on -- this is a very fruitful way of doing business. Hence, the internet has turned into a big pile of rubbish way beyond the traditional (high cost) damage of telemarketers and junk (snail)mailers. A low cost way to reach the vulnurable. At some point those with the intelect must stand tall and say "NO MORE". Those developers that work at companies that do business this way should find employment elseware or forever bear the burden that will smitten them to geek hell (an afterlife of no mountain dew and no simpsons reruns).
I only need to look up at the big flasy blue and white banner ad contrasting on the green and white
Yea right. If it was so easy for these players to support OGG, at least 1 in the 1000000 hardware mp3 players would have added support. Face it -- something is standing in the way that will not allow these players to decode and play OGG files. Until this barrier is broken, ogg will not be of much use.
How about a book on how tech workers should treat their managers? As a former tech worker turned manager I would be more than happy to see the developers get "purks" above and beyond all the "less" intelligent people --- however at that point they better earn it....Don't rest on what you know today -- go home and hack away and learn the new technology and toolsets....Einstein was not a one trick pony that came up with 1 good idea and lived off of that the rest of his live --- he continued to invent.
Well the article says that this technology is adapted from the process that goes into the theft proof tags that set the buzzers off on the doors of a merchant to stop thieves. My guess is that with a little tweaking this can be used not only to determine when your glass is empty but also to set of an alarm if you cross the threshold from the bar to the parking lot with a few of these glasses in your pockets.
Me running my 24K, 10 stream hobby station that peaks at about 2 listeners. I would sure hate to have to pay the same as the big boys....Or even have to comply to ANY rules that they have to....Considering it would take 1 lawyer per ear in the audience to even do anything about this....
Looked through all of the documentation for this and could not find anywhere that stated weather sash (windows or linux version) had the ability to work with ODBC or any other API's (OCI for oracle, or the MySQL API, etc) If not then this would be of little use for anything above and beyond your typical "Hello World", or "Ticker App" (reading from a flat file of course
To see what it does however here is a link of a one page example that explains it better than reading the whole book!
She never met a sign up form she did not like. (plus I think that a lot of sites she visits fund their bandwidth bills by "sharing" their user list with a few "select" devils....) I usually visit "tech type" sites like /. , etc....where people could not get away with things like that -- but you would not believe the sort of stuff that goes on in places on the web where "normal hobbyists" gather.....The marketers are out in full force -- and hide in the corner like wolves taking on innocent prey. (Kind of like the prOn sites without the prOn, so to speak -- same marketing tools being used to prey upon people who may be interested in such harmless things such as basket weaving, cooking, sewing, and other things that non-techies might find the web usefull for.)
I loved this topic so I thought I would bring it up with my wife....Who although a technophobe, discovered the web and email a few years back -- and learned to use search engines and email clients. I noticed that her use is down a bunch in the last year, so I asked her why --- and it boiled down to the constant bombardment from companies splattering flashy ads and countless popups in her face.....And her amount of Spam easily hides any legitimate emails that might creep through. She says she is tired digging through 40 junk emails to find the 1 email from her sister. I myself have countered the effect fairly well by using procmail filters and the new features of decent browsers that let you turn off popups. But you can't expect your casual, non tech user to take all of these steps. (Yet these people still get annoyed with spam, in your face flashing ads, and popups flying all over their desktops...)
I have seen with multiple content management applications is as follows:
... where it falls flat is when it comes to dynamic pages that rely on database queries and criteria for the content (.cfm, .php, .asp, etc.) At least on the "web side" of our content management process -- this is causing all sorts of issues when trying to add dynamic pages as objects into the various products. (We already have the source control issue handled with mks -- but since 90% of our pages are dynamic -- most of the benefits of traditional "content management" have yet to be realized in areas where the content gets created on the fly --- turns search engines to mush.)
Most content managers create an AutoIndex feature that works similar "in theory" of a web search engine such as google. When adding static html files as objects into the system --- this works great because it is able to index the content of the HTML pages with pretty good "searchability"
Good point. Even though I despise Microsoft...I have to admit that if you find your self in a position where you have to use a spreadsheet every day...there really is nothing to compare to Excel. On the surface a well placed grid control and Number and Letter tags on the left and top of your screen appears to be a spreadsheet --- but once you actually have to start depending on one in order to be able to go home in the evening, its hard to compare.
4 years of waiting with baited breath for the articles that say "obscure hardware item X now works under Linux -- the Windows software has been succesfully reverse engineered, and now we have 25% functionality in Linux" --- and now we have taken a step back -- We are waiting with baited breath for a piece of hardware to be usable under Windows....Hell what is the chance that this will ever be usable under Linux??
I disappoint enough people in real life without having to shatter the mind of some poor virtual bastard too.
Thats some funny stuff! (Put some laughs into an otherwise dull day...Well except when "Lifes Been Good..." came up on my playlist...that was not to bad)
From The article:
:)
One place StarOffice falls down -- and falls down hard -- is its inability to work with WordPerfect files,
Maybe a hard pill to swallow for the desktop users who "fell" for the whole WP for Linux thing a year or so back (when in reality it was more akin to WP for Windows running under WINE -- than a native office suite..) Needless to say, if they were able to get a few documents created with the whole WP thing -- then chances are they would want to open and work with them in Star Office, right??? I hope they get this worked out. OTOH -- it is nice to see some commercial software making a go for the linux Desktop. (I wish IBM would dust off some of the old Lotus stuff and give it a run
Next product they need is a bandwindth leak detector for their web server....the /. effect seems to have run it's course already.
Yes times are hard. 20 developers worked for me before the "recession". 15 work now. The herd has been culled....The 5 that have parted were OK developers -- but then again, I am an OK driver -- does that make me eligible to be a professional race car driver??? -- most likely not. It would be hard for me to believe that the economy is so bad that the professionals are looking for work. I see different -- the professionals are as busy as ever....The amateur's and recent grads with no work history may be hurting a bit...But thats what "culling the hurd" means.
There was a way to take the money being donated to or VC'd to all of these different distributions and somehow take the value added features (easy install, hardware detection, control panel, etc... etc.. etc..) and merge these changes into Debian. This is not a plug for Debian from a usibility standpoint, but a plug from a reality and longevity standpoint. All of these distributions very existence other than Debian rely on the almighty $$$ to further their life. Each day is a tightrope -- will this company be able to distribute security patches, or even make payroll??? -- who knows, it's a crapshoot....The ironic thing is that the best examples of utter finacial failure have been distributions that were built upon debian. This is NOT rpm VS. apt --- this is community VS. commercial .... and it is proven that when the dust settles, the community remains, and the commercial is liquidating assets, missing payroll, and guest starring on fuc*&dcompany.... HOW MANY commercial distributions have to go under before the masses realize that the best way to market a free product is to keep it free. And for those of us that want to pay -- we will learn to send our money somewhere where it is building on the future of Linux -- and not to pay for another week of life for a choking commercial product...that may not be gone in a month -- but most likely will not be able to supply you a security patch in 6 months....
Ouch. The words mission critical would be a hard enough job for an established company like IBM to live up to....Let alone a fly by night company thats not even going to be around to distribute the next security patch that just might make your "Mission Critical" server go up in a pile of smoke because of a division by zero error or something :)
I don't think Slashdot charging fees is a big deal in itself. (Not anymore of a big deal than a single polar ice cap melting is to global warming --- or the cutting of a single batch of trees in the rainforests is to yadda, yadda...)
/. articles??? On top of all the fees you have to pay to get on the internet in the first place (that keep going up by a "harmless" dollar here, and "harmless" dollar there -- when all of a sudden my cable modem that cost $35 a month 2 years ago is $50 a month now.) The sum of all the nickels and dimes soon will exceed everyones paychecks....(well except for the people who are skiing and golfing, and don't care about the cheap thrill of being online anyway....:)
I.E. -- $5 bucks a month to slashdot most people can manage. But what if you had to pay $5 bucks a month to each of the sites that are linked in
at the details (id3 tags used as appointments) this has about as much relevance as the guy who makes a swimming pool by placing a hose in the back of a pickup truck.... This could be done with any MP3 player that supports id3 tags and subfolders. Why not step back 2 years and look at the mp3 players that had (semi)-REAL pims built into them. The second generation mpman (MP-F30) comes to mind, I owned one and it worked great in linux, and also let me store phone numbers, contacts, etc....Not much of a threat to the PDA market...