Maybe its different in the UK, but in Canada, there's no way the fines and/or jail time would anywhere near paying for the expense involved in prosecuting someone... even if they plead guilty.
Supposing I make $35/hour at my job, and I work about 40 hours a week. Just because I play a game for a couple hours in the evening doesn't mean it "cost" me $70. My employer pays me to be at work during certain hours. If I wasn't playing a game, I couldn't just come to work for a couple hours and expect to be paid for it. Its not costing me anything more than the cost of the game, and a percentage of the computer equipment and internet connection (I play Guild Wars, so no monthly fee).
Suggesting that its costing me $70 a day to play a game is ridiculous.
But its not tough to create a bunch of accounts that each subscribe to a few threads and harvest data for a large portion of the population that a site focuses on. At even $2/month/account this is pretty minor. The different line ups aren't going to stop the redistribution of the data, which is the real problem. In the end, I think what they should do is to customize the listings for each user.
There's a name for this, and the film companies use it for screeners, governments use it for leaked documents, but basically, you put hidden codes into each "copy" of the data. Then, when you find a site using data, you find that hidden code, and trace it back to the account. At that point you can cancel the account (or better yet, provide corrupted data).
The point is, even though a lot of us are willing to pay for the service, changing it to a paid service won't fix the real problem, which is people going against the terms of use and redistributing the data.
or just not read it at all?
FTA: I still enjoyed questing with him -- he was a terrific World of Warcraft player.
This has nothing to do with judging someone on their age or appearance, its about immersing yourself in the game and having a voice that just doesn't fit. As someone above mentioned, how popular would your favourite TV show be if the lead characters voice was done by Urkel?
Then work backwards to find the sites controlling the zombies.
It would probably be a LOT cheaper to do it that way than to try to get a MILLION people to clean their machines AND maintain them in the future.
If only it were that simple. The problem is, there'll probably be too many jurisdictions involved. What happens when the controlling computer is in China, Russia, etc. Even if you do get the foreign government to cooperate and the controlling ISP, how do you know when it ends? How do you really know that computer isn't compromised and being controlled from elsewhere.
And even if you do finally nail one guy running a botnet, how many others will take his place? Its not like they'll be arresting guys day after day... this would take months or even years of investigation to properly prosecute a person.
Steam sucks.... blah blah blah... privacy... blah blah blah... out of business and I can't play my games
No its great, easy to download, no media, blah blah blah
It sucks, no offline play
There is so offline play
This one time, it didn't work for a friend
This one time it did work for me
Nazi
Godwin FTW
QED
I assume you mean running a game server, for example, a Counter Strike or Day of Defeat server. That's probably not the case since game servers don't run the steam client, and thus wouldn't be in the poll.
Its not quite that simple. If I'm in the minute of something and get interrupted, I can get right back to where I was as soon as the interruption ends, even if it only last for 30 seconds. It takes me a few minutes (or longer) to get back into the same mindset. Stopping again in 5 minutes to keep them interested isn't going to help either. All told, to keep them on the line for 15 minutes, I've easily lost more than that in productivity.
Anytime there is an article having anything to do with Valve, there's always a couple of you that feel the need to complain about Steam. Guess what... we all know there are a few of you who don't like it. Fine, we get it. Its not going anywhere. The number of people who like Steam far outweigh you.
Personally, an agent that keeps my games up to date, lets me purchase new hardware, and reduces the number of cheaters out there is something I like. I don't care if it authenticates my copy of HL2. Go ahead, I paid for it, it doesn't impact my experience negatively at all.
I can still play offline. I don't have to let it update games as soon as a patch is released. I don't have to run it all the time. I can play games offline.
From Anton Chuvakin's Blog: ...most scary cyber-criminal of the future is not a spammer, a scammer, a phisher or a pharmer, and not even a good ole "cracker" - it is an unethical software engineer, who changes the code slightly to introduce a weakness (or a full-blown backdoor or a logic bomb) and later uses or sells this knowledge
Did you read the article? it comes from multiplayer and modding starting in the early '90s
Valve knows this, this isn't something they're just figuring out, or that they figured out after the release of HL. That's why they let modders go nuts on HL, they knew it would help their sales. The point of the article, which the submitter also seemed to miss, is that consoles are at a serious disadvantage in this respect when compared to PCs (and presumably Macs).
You'd think there would be enough bus power in two connectors to power a low-end LCD display.
Better yet, power the display from the treadmill. I remember an exercise bike at a gym that was like that... you had to start pedaling before the control panel would power up so you could put in the settings for your workout.
A lot of the FPS out there today our team oriented, or at least try to be. That means you want to spawn your players nearby, or behind their own team. Spawning at a random place on the map makes it a very solo kind of experience. If its a pure deathmatch, that might work fine.
Of course several games I've place, including TFC and DoD have both had moving spawn points. If you capture a point, your spawn point moves forward, helping you advance farther in the map. I usually really enjoy those maps. It gives you a sort of in-between win. You haven't won the round, but you've pushed far enough ahead to get more reinforcements (so to speak).
I think this is getting a bit pedantic. Sure, the light takes 7500 years to get here, thus it could have gone supernova quite some time ago, and the astronomers know this. It doesn't mean we have to speak about everything having occurred in the past... its all relative.
Well, given the author is at the school and got into trouble for booting Linux live cds, the story is definitely one sided, and given I don't know the reputation of the author, I have to at least admit the possibility that significant details were left out.
If all they did was surf some relatively safe sites, then yeah, a 3 month suspension is too much, but from the article, its hard to say. I kind of doubt that someone just using an anonymous proxy to surf MySpace was given a three month suspension. My guess, there was more to it than we aren't being told.
Its too close to a "thought crime" to you to outlaw using proxies to bypass the filtering system in place? Wow, I'm all for freedom of information and personal privacy, but bypassing a filtering system doesn't even come close to being a thought crime in my books.
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Maybe its different in the UK, but in Canada, there's no way the fines and/or jail time would anywhere near paying for the expense involved in prosecuting someone... even if they plead guilty.
That makes it an endpoint, not a mesh. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesh_network
Supposing I make $35/hour at my job, and I work about 40 hours a week. Just because I play a game for a couple hours in the evening doesn't mean it "cost" me $70. My employer pays me to be at work during certain hours. If I wasn't playing a game, I couldn't just come to work for a couple hours and expect to be paid for it. Its not costing me anything more than the cost of the game, and a percentage of the computer equipment and internet connection (I play Guild Wars, so no monthly fee). Suggesting that its costing me $70 a day to play a game is ridiculous.
But its not tough to create a bunch of accounts that each subscribe to a few threads and harvest data for a large portion of the population that a site focuses on. At even $2/month/account this is pretty minor. The different line ups aren't going to stop the redistribution of the data, which is the real problem. In the end, I think what they should do is to customize the listings for each user.
There's a name for this, and the film companies use it for screeners, governments use it for leaked documents, but basically, you put hidden codes into each "copy" of the data. Then, when you find a site using data, you find that hidden code, and trace it back to the account. At that point you can cancel the account (or better yet, provide corrupted data).
The point is, even though a lot of us are willing to pay for the service, changing it to a paid service won't fix the real problem, which is people going against the terms of use and redistributing the data.
or just not read it at all?
FTA: I still enjoyed questing with him -- he was a terrific World of Warcraft player.
This has nothing to do with judging someone on their age or appearance, its about immersing yourself in the game and having a voice that just doesn't fit. As someone above mentioned, how popular would your favourite TV show be if the lead characters voice was done by Urkel?
We know its tough to read the article, but try reading the summary.
Then work backwards to find the sites controlling the zombies.
It would probably be a LOT cheaper to do it that way than to try to get a MILLION people to clean their machines AND maintain them in the future.
If only it were that simple. The problem is, there'll probably be too many jurisdictions involved. What happens when the controlling computer is in China, Russia, etc. Even if you do get the foreign government to cooperate and the controlling ISP, how do you know when it ends? How do you really know that computer isn't compromised and being controlled from elsewhere.
And even if you do finally nail one guy running a botnet, how many others will take his place? Its not like they'll be arresting guys day after day... this would take months or even years of investigation to properly prosecute a person.
Steam sucks .... blah blah blah... privacy ... blah blah blah... out of business and I can't play my games
No its great, easy to download, no media, blah blah blah
It sucks, no offline play
There is so offline play
This one time, it didn't work for a friend
This one time it did work for me
Nazi
Godwin FTW
QED
Sorry, I should have specified... its not required to run the Steam client to run a game server.
I assume you mean running a game server, for example, a Counter Strike or Day of Defeat server. That's probably not the case since game servers don't run the steam client, and thus wouldn't be in the poll.
Its not quite that simple. If I'm in the minute of something and get interrupted, I can get right back to where I was as soon as the interruption ends, even if it only last for 30 seconds. It takes me a few minutes (or longer) to get back into the same mindset. Stopping again in 5 minutes to keep them interested isn't going to help either. All told, to keep them on the line for 15 minutes, I've easily lost more than that in productivity.
So, if I'm going to steal the stereo from a Honda, take the extra couple of seconds and grab the VIN while I'm there.
Anytime there is an article having anything to do with Valve, there's always a couple of you that feel the need to complain about Steam. Guess what... we all know there are a few of you who don't like it. Fine, we get it. Its not going anywhere. The number of people who like Steam far outweigh you.
Personally, an agent that keeps my games up to date, lets me purchase new hardware, and reduces the number of cheaters out there is something I like. I don't care if it authenticates my copy of HL2. Go ahead, I paid for it, it doesn't impact my experience negatively at all.
I can still play offline. I don't have to let it update games as soon as a patch is released. I don't have to run it all the time. I can play games offline.
From Anton Chuvakin's Blog:
...most scary cyber-criminal of the future is not a spammer, a scammer, a phisher or a pharmer, and not even a good ole "cracker" - it is an unethical software engineer, who changes the code slightly to introduce a weakness (or a full-blown backdoor or a logic bomb) and later uses or sells this knowledge
Did you read the article?
it comes from multiplayer and modding starting in the early '90s
Valve knows this, this isn't something they're just figuring out, or that they figured out after the release of HL. That's why they let modders go nuts on HL, they knew it would help their sales. The point of the article, which the submitter also seemed to miss, is that consoles are at a serious disadvantage in this respect when compared to PCs (and presumably Macs).
You'd think there would be enough bus power in two connectors to power a low-end LCD display.
Better yet, power the display from the treadmill. I remember an exercise bike at a gym that was like that... you had to start pedaling before the control panel would power up so you could put in the settings for your workout.
They did, it is called a preview. What you are referring to are called trailers, and are a completely different thing.
Those are called trailers, and they're not stopping those. They're canceling early screenings of new movies.
A lot of the FPS out there today our team oriented, or at least try to be. That means you want to spawn your players nearby, or behind their own team. Spawning at a random place on the map makes it a very solo kind of experience. If its a pure deathmatch, that might work fine.
Of course several games I've place, including TFC and DoD have both had moving spawn points. If you capture a point, your spawn point moves forward, helping you advance farther in the map. I usually really enjoy those maps. It gives you a sort of in-between win. You haven't won the round, but you've pushed far enough ahead to get more reinforcements (so to speak).
I think this is getting a bit pedantic. Sure, the light takes 7500 years to get here, thus it could have gone supernova quite some time ago, and the astronomers know this. It doesn't mean we have to speak about everything having occurred in the past... its all relative.
Well, given the author is at the school and got into trouble for booting Linux live cds, the story is definitely one sided, and given I don't know the reputation of the author, I have to at least admit the possibility that significant details were left out.
That's the point... We don't know. Suppose they were downloading 0-day exploits, or surfing very bad material, spamming, making threats, etc.
If all they did was surf some relatively safe sites, then yeah, a 3 month suspension is too much, but from the article, its hard to say. I kind of doubt that someone just using an anonymous proxy to surf MySpace was given a three month suspension. My guess, there was more to it than we aren't being told.
Its too close to a "thought crime" to you to outlaw using proxies to bypass the filtering system in place? Wow, I'm all for freedom of information and personal privacy, but bypassing a filtering system doesn't even come close to being a thought crime in my books.
The article says they were running websense. That's basically what it does.