My first thought is that the owner should be compelled to unlock their phone. They have reasonable evidence that these folks are guilty of something, so I don't think the 5th amendment would slide here... Anything they find not directly correlated to the crimes they are charged are inadmissible, after all. The owners refusal to cooperate should just levy additional charges, like obstruction of justice or whatever.
They can load whatever charges they want on to the owner with a billion years in prison, don't think it will help...
the correct action would be to cooperate fully right now, and patch the back door. That way current case proceeds, and future similar situations are not feasible because the backdoor doesn't exist.
they'll have to open up a very public case "forcing" Apple to put in a back door, where apple would have a lot firmer leg to stand on as opposed to not cooperating with this investigation.
The problem is the FBI then have this version of iOS with stripped out security that they can then theoretically install on any iphone they want to grab all the data. They say it will only be used this one time for this one thing but if you believe that there's a lovely bridge I have for sale.
Over the years, I've seen many people try to use an analogy that involves a physical object or action and something to do with computers. Often, the analogy is made with a car. Yet, very seldom has it been successful.
You can physically crack a safe with tools and a little bit of time. This is not possible with good encryption. No, I can't think of a good analogy.
It's like a car with like a billion ignitions and you need to, you know, get all the keys, but they're like a metre long and have to go in the right order or something....and are made of unobtainium.
How many times are you going to post this drivel? Apple said "bring it in" and they'll handle it on a case-by-case scenario.
If you're not careful enough with an expensive device that you need to frequently replace a rugged button, maybe applecare is a deal, no?
If the sensor is replaced by a third-party, it's their RESPONSIBILITY to make sure it works.
Unless there was a big warning box saying that an "unauthorized" in the past that was completed successfully and has resulted in no further issues will render your device useless then it's apples fault. Was there any pre warning this was a thing?
If you get your phone bricked for having the absolute audacity to take to phone
For example, an unauthorized or faulty screen replacement
. Who authorised the failure dickheads? They should be made to replace every single device they bricked with no reason or warning. Maybe this is how they plan on getting over their stagnation in sales, make all the dumb fucks who bought one in the first place buy another one just because. And you know most will because they can't be without their idevice.
Mere common sense tells us that that the answer is NO. If a person sells you a product, yet retains the right to forcibly dictate how you use that product, then you haven't bought anything at all, but rather leased it.
Especially if they reserve the right to brick it irrecoverably because you had the gall to try and get repaired by someone other than them.
Raise your child in a way so that you don't have to trust the pornography industry to decide what is good enough.
To make things simpler for you children generally don't get hurt by watching porn. It's the "meet a stranger online" thing that you should be worried about but you are more likely to find them on facebook or pages targeted at children.
Kids don't start looking for porn until they start getting interested in all the sexy stuff anyway, and it doesn't take a genius kid to go to www.titsnass.com...you must be 18 blah blah enter details below....goto piratebay.com>search porn tits ass and jobs a fucking good'un. No checks. no nothing, dl a few vids, hide the good ones away somewhere delete the rest. Paying for porn is a fools game and all you do is subsidise the rest of us.
Who else is going to do it? The various companies you've just given your card details, ni number and probably proof of address to just so you can have quick tug and who are definitely not gong to sell that information on for profit. If this went forward you would want the gov to be doing it rather than a for profit company. That being said though they'd just farm it out to a private company anyway so fuck em.
The reason I always thought they were said to be better is because back in the day they were more stable due to a mac being a mac with very little variation in configurations, therefor adobe knew what they were working with so could design for it. Whereas with pc there's a bout a jillion potential configs so it was more crash happy. Nowadays it seems just as stable on either platform in my experience.
Surely when AI is at that stage it will be able to analyse vocal patterns to detect sarcasm. The main reason people don't detect it online it's because there's no tone of voice when written.
By not upgrading unless it adds something you need?
That can often times be difficult, since the description of upgrades are often dumbed down to the point of uselessness in the name of user friendliness or deliberately obfuscated to hide what they contain (looking at you, Microsoft). Figuring out if it contains something you need isn't as simple as your flippant comment suggests. Not to mention the fact that updates on devices like the kindle are delivered in a single monolithic update file, so there is no opportunity to selectively reject changes such as the one OP describes while accepting needed security updates.
Also the ability to rollback is getting more and more rare these days.
If James Comey thinks that the FBI could keep their backdoor decryption key secure, perhaps I could call him at his office phone using the FBI directory that just got uploaded to the net, and discuss it with him.:-)
All cleverness aside, maybe you should.....from a payphone......miles away.
The two key figures in that attack are already dead. The phone in question will shed light on whether or not their circle of friends, family, and overseas contacts were criminally involved in what happened. There's plenty of reasons to think that those to idiots didn't act in a vacuum.
So go to the NSA. Isn't that why they are tracking calls, messages and all that? Who cares if it the phone logs/messages are encrypted if it was captured when it happened. And if they're not doing that for this what the fuck are they doing?
government does have the right to make you identify "who you are" not only to law enforcement but to the courts as well
A court does, law enforcement does not. If you are stopped by a cop or fed or other LEO and they ask you for your identity, you are under no obligation to tell them.
And apparently they are under no obligation not to shoot you.
If you are paying someone for every thousand impressions (called CPM) of an ad for your company, aren't you going to want to be sure that the website's traffic numbers were accurate?
So you have a bit of code that fires off a ping each time an ad is displayed and a bit to add something on the url so you know where traffic has come from if it's clicked on rather than a bunch of code to try and track me everywhere and get as much information out of my browser as possible.
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My first thought is that the owner should be compelled to unlock their phone. They have reasonable evidence that these folks are guilty of something, so I don't think the 5th amendment would slide here... Anything they find not directly correlated to the crimes they are charged are inadmissible, after all. The owners refusal to cooperate should just levy additional charges, like obstruction of justice or whatever.
They can load whatever charges they want on to the owner with a billion years in prison, don't think it will help...
the correct action would be to cooperate fully right now, and patch the back door. That way current case proceeds, and future similar situations are not feasible because the backdoor doesn't exist.
they'll have to open up a very public case "forcing" Apple to put in a back door, where apple would have a lot firmer leg to stand on as opposed to not cooperating with this investigation.
The problem is the FBI then have this version of iOS with stripped out security that they can then theoretically install on any iphone they want to grab all the data. They say it will only be used this one time for this one thing but if you believe that there's a lovely bridge I have for sale.
Over the years, I've seen many people try to use an analogy that involves a physical object or action and something to do with computers. Often, the analogy is made with a car. Yet, very seldom has it been successful.
You can physically crack a safe with tools and a little bit of time. This is not possible with good encryption. No, I can't think of a good analogy.
It's like a car with like a billion ignitions and you need to, you know, get all the keys, but they're like a metre long and have to go in the right order or something....and are made of unobtainium.
Nope.
How many times are you going to post this drivel? Apple said "bring it in" and they'll handle it on a case-by-case scenario.
If you're not careful enough with an expensive device that you need to frequently replace a rugged button, maybe applecare is a deal, no?
If the sensor is replaced by a third-party, it's their RESPONSIBILITY to make sure it works.
Unless there was a big warning box saying that an "unauthorized" in the past that was completed successfully and has resulted in no further issues will render your device useless then it's apples fault. Was there any pre warning this was a thing?
For example, an unauthorized or faulty screen replacement
. Who authorised the failure dickheads? They should be made to replace every single device they bricked with no reason or warning. Maybe this is how they plan on getting over their stagnation in sales, make all the dumb fucks who bought one in the first place buy another one just because. And you know most will because they can't be without their idevice.
If you can't open it, do you really own it?
Mere common sense tells us that that the answer is NO. If a person sells you a product, yet retains the right to forcibly dictate how you use that product, then you haven't bought anything at all, but rather leased it.
Especially if they reserve the right to brick it irrecoverably because you had the gall to try and get repaired by someone other than them.
Raise your child in a way so that you don't have to trust the pornography industry to decide what is good enough. To make things simpler for you children generally don't get hurt by watching porn. It's the "meet a stranger online" thing that you should be worried about but you are more likely to find them on facebook or pages targeted at children.
Kids don't start looking for porn until they start getting interested in all the sexy stuff anyway, and it doesn't take a genius kid to go to www.titsnass.com...you must be 18 blah blah enter details below....goto piratebay.com>search porn tits ass and jobs a fucking good'un. No checks. no nothing, dl a few vids, hide the good ones away somewhere delete the rest. Paying for porn is a fools game and all you do is subsidise the rest of us.
Who else is going to do it? The various companies you've just given your card details, ni number and probably proof of address to just so you can have quick tug and who are definitely not gong to sell that information on for profit. If this went forward you would want the gov to be doing it rather than a for profit company. That being said though they'd just farm it out to a private company anyway so fuck em.
A counter-revolution
A dance dance counter revoltion?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUautVrEUyU
The reason I always thought they were said to be better is because back in the day they were more stable due to a mac being a mac with very little variation in configurations, therefor adobe knew what they were working with so could design for it. Whereas with pc there's a bout a jillion potential configs so it was more crash happy. Nowadays it seems just as stable on either platform in my experience.
Slashdotters now concur on nuking North Korea.
Only way to be sure?
>> they can pay their fare share
It looks like we should also continue to invest in education. That would be the only "fair" thing to do.
Maybe he was talking about the taxi ride to the tax office?
If 4000 people leech a movie via bittorrent, meaning you lose $1,600,000 in lost sales in stores
That makes it $400 a copy.
Maybe it should be in constant fail mode and assume all humans are being sarcastic all the time.
That is true and obviously it'll never be foolproof but in some cases a flat response when one might expect something different is the give away.
Surely when AI is at that stage it will be able to analyse vocal patterns to detect sarcasm. The main reason people don't detect it online it's because there's no tone of voice when written.
By not upgrading unless it adds something you need?
That can often times be difficult, since the description of upgrades are often dumbed down to the point of uselessness in the name of user friendliness or deliberately obfuscated to hide what they contain (looking at you, Microsoft). Figuring out if it contains something you need isn't as simple as your flippant comment suggests. Not to mention the fact that updates on devices like the kindle are delivered in a single monolithic update file, so there is no opportunity to selectively reject changes such as the one OP describes while accepting needed security updates.
Also the ability to rollback is getting more and more rare these days.
How do I reeeeeeeach these kiiiiiiiiiiiiids?
If James Comey thinks that the FBI could keep their backdoor decryption key secure, perhaps I could call him at his office phone using the FBI directory that just got uploaded to the net, and discuss it with him. :-)
All cleverness aside, maybe you should.....from a payphone......miles away.
The two key figures in that attack are already dead. The phone in question will shed light on whether or not their circle of friends, family, and overseas contacts were criminally involved in what happened. There's plenty of reasons to think that those to idiots didn't act in a vacuum.
So go to the NSA. Isn't that why they are tracking calls, messages and all that? Who cares if it the phone logs/messages are encrypted if it was captured when it happened. And if they're not doing that for this what the fuck are they doing?
Touch your finger to your nose, blink three times and away it goes.
Drawings are not children; You're an idiot.
Not this again?!
government does have the right to make you identify "who you are" not only to law enforcement but to the courts as well
A court does, law enforcement does not. If you are stopped by a cop or fed or other LEO and they ask you for your identity, you are under no obligation to tell them.
And apparently they are under no obligation not to shoot you.
"Will the industry relent and allow Government access to data from these devices?"
I don't know, but I had better click and find out!
I would say Betteridge but in this case, probably yes.
Think about that for a second. Just one.
If you are paying someone for every thousand impressions (called CPM) of an ad for your company, aren't you going to want to be sure that the website's traffic numbers were accurate?
So you have a bit of code that fires off a ping each time an ad is displayed and a bit to add something on the url so you know where traffic has come from if it's clicked on rather than a bunch of code to try and track me everywhere and get as much information out of my browser as possible.