Well, that should free up some space in the cry room...
These silicon valley types that work for fascist companies like fakedouche, giggle, snapcrap, etc. are the biggest bunch of hypocrites and self-serving asshats I have ever had the displeasure to encounter. You snowflake fucks will be the first against the wall.
If you get all bent out shape that 'snowflakes' are doing their thing, that really doesn't affect you in the slightest. Do you not think that makes you a snowflake? I would say it does so fuckoff snowflake and go moan to someone who cares. Maybe try childline.
My point isn't that they're right, but they have an idea. Just like WE have an idea about spherical planets. So just like MOND vs dark matter, there's a debate (at least on their side.)
The difference is there is evidence for a round earth, lots and lots and lots of it. There is zero evidence for a flat earth other than some lines in ancient books and... well that's about it really. Unless you count the dedication to delusion. You'll notice the overwhelming majority of flat eathers are religious types that just can't accept the fact the universe not only wasn't made for them but does not give one single iota of a shit about them.
Jesus most certainly existed. There is plenty of documented proof of that. Now, whether He was the omnipotent Son of God, that is what is usually the subject of debate.
You're right, Jesus does exist, has existed for a long time and will continue to exist way past man but, surprise ending. Jesus isn't the son of god, he's the sun god. As in, literally the sun. Look it up.
It can't be excluded that a T-rex will walk in, morph into a creature with the head of a crocodile, body of a lion, and limbs of a crab with big, big, titties that lays out in perfect english (with subtitles) everywhere that hawking went wrong and fill out some details. Doesn't mean it's going to happen though.
How do you know it was even possible to legitimately get good grades?
"Mount Diablo Unified School District"
He was clearly going through hell.
If school is so messed up that hacking seems easy...it doesn't seem fair to flunk people who are clearly smarter than what public school is intended for. If this guy had spent all his time doing schoolwork he would not have had those real skills, he would just be another kid who passed geography but doesn't know what a continent is.
You mean a good little dumb cunt that will go get a shit job for low pay and not complain? That's what they're trying to churn out en masse.
Age discrimination of young and old over "safety" related arguments is repulsive. People were once free to travel anywhere they liked without the permission of governments. The idea that safety is so much more important than the population's right to travel is disgusting. And don't go tell me how its a privileged and not a right. It's been understood that people have an inalienable right to travel and the courts reckless disregard for that right has resulted in all sorts of discriminations and tragedies that mostly have no significant impact on safety- but it's an irrelevant argument to me because no amount of improved "safety" can justify the restriction on peoples rights to live outside of a repressive regime.
While the famous Ben Franklin's quote below may be understood out of context to mean something that was not intended it is that interpretation that sums up nicely what I believe:
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
The young are discriminated against and hindered from gaining the skills needed to drive safely and this results in less experienced older drivers. By increasing the age you end up in a never-ending-cycle and argument for increasing the driving age. You can continue this up to and past age 28 because of "brain development". It's ridiculous when you can't hire a kid out of college because the state demands a year of experience with a parent or other adult before they can drive. This has literally prevented me from hiring numerous young persons out of college! At least until I moved my business out of an insane state with this requirement.
Then there are laws in other states where they suspend peoples drivers licenses for "crimes" or debts that have nothing to do with safety and safety isn't even why we have drivers licenses. It was bigotry back in the early 1900s against motor vehicle owners and up until the late 1960s there were even states that had no testing of drivers either oral or road to get a drivers license.
One example of a "crime" that is punished via the restriction of ones driving "privileged" is a NY law that applies to juveniles only (or did) that says if you are caught committing a graffiti crime that you will be prevented from getting a drivers license for a number of years after you otherwise would be able to get one. This doesn't apply to an adult who commits the very same crime! In theory we're suppose to be more lenient with minors and yet frequently the opposite is true. It's a more serious crime or only a crime in many states for a young person to smoke weed- but it's either legal or merely a violation for an adult to do the same thing!
Another group that is discriminated against via drivers licenses suspensions that has nothing to do with safety are people indebted to the state for child support. You might think "Good." because those people are costing us money. The problem with this thinking is a lot of these people didn't even know they had a child because mothers have denied that these kids are the father of the father. When it finally comes out that a father is in fact the father and should have been paying child support the debts to the state (to reimburse the state for welfare basically) have there drivers licenses suspended. Not everybody has 20 or 30 thousand dollars to cover the costs the moment it is decided in court that they are the father and in debt to the state. It's entirely unreasonable for a person to be made to pay on the day of the court ruling that kind of money to the state else face a suspended drivers license. And it doesn't even make sense because you are not hindering that father from employment that would enable him to repay that debt. It's another form of debtors prison that even the British understood hundreds of years ago was a bad idea- and so it was abolished- but not here in the good ol USA.
Then there are laws that discriminate against old people rather than incapable drivers. There are lots of peo
As someone born in Aug of 1928 that has never had an accident, I think this is unfair. I first got my divers license in 1942 when I was 14, I have never even gotten a speeding ticket. I know I'm a safer driver than millennials.
Well keep taking the test to show that. Most 90 year olds can barely keep their skin attached let alone drive.
And what about the moral choice that led to that pregnancy in the first place?
What about the woman who gets raped and falls pregnant, where do your morals fall there? You going to make her have that baby regardless? What if said woman is 13 and was raped by her father? How does that jiggle your moral compass?
Ok, we might not be on 12 hours a day 6 days a week anymore but it still sucks unless you're lucky enough to bag a job you enjoy that doesn't just suck the fun out of it.
"I'm only working here because I need more fucking money"
Well, we're arguing semantics which is half the fun of this place. I would still say a fetus becomes a human when it's born, until then it's a fetus. And to qualify by born I mean removed from the womb and able to survive with out connection to the mother (connection to machines doesn't count, it's still been born then). You're the one who said it becomes a human at the same time as becoming a fetus so I would say the defining point does count, at least to support that argument. The wiki articles will be largely irrelevant as at the end of the day the only definitions that really count are what the law of whatever country says it is. Everything else is open to opinion and interpretation, which is kind of the point of my first post.
I would say when it's born
There is a reason why we distinguish between an embryo and a fetus.
And as ignorant as most people are: a fetus starts learning the language around him and understands quite a bit of what is talked around him. They play, they sleep and dream. They kick when they want attention etc.
Fetus are full humans long before they are born...
Citation needed but I'll take your word for it for the sake of argument. When does that embryo become a fetus then? Is there an exact point that YOU can point at and say this is now a human being that is more specific than probably toward the end of the first trimester? Even if we say that a fetus is human and and embryo is not, end of discussion, there's still a fuzzy area there.
Loss of consciousness from complete oxygen deprivation happens within about 15 seconds,
You need to clarify on this point, because someone can hold their breath, depriving themselves of any gasses in the environment, and live longer than 15 seconds.
Blow all the air out of your lungs then hold it. See how long you last compared to when you stack your lungs full of oxygen first.
Well no whether it's a life or not isn't a tricky issue. It's very clearly a living human. The tricky part concerns higher level issues like whether or when it's a 'person' and whether or when termination is permitted. It's silly to try to say it's not a) alive, and b) a member of the Homo sapien species.
Yeah but it's not that simple is it. Is it alive when it would die if not attached to the mother receiving all its nutrients and sustenance? Hmmmm, well, maybe. And again at what point does a fetus become an actual human? I would say when it's born, others might say the moment the sperm goes into the egg or when the first division happens, yet others would point to an (all but) arbitrary point during development. I mean, I guess technically it's always human but so is a dead body.
How does the presence of cctv affect my freedom? It doesn't, in the slightest. The people threatening society are the reason they are there in the first place idiot.
Try dealing with a raged-out, roided-out cop who's pointing a gun at you because some idiot neighbor reported you "breaking in" to your own home.
I actually had something like that once. I'd fallen asleep and woke up to cop in the house because someone had reported someone climbing through a window and my living room window was wide open, but luckily no one here has a gun and the cops less so so after a 5 minute chat everyone was back to business with zero bloodshed.
Not shot by you, just shot. When people are scared of everyone and armed to the teeth, people get shot. Especially when getting shot seems to be considered just punishment for crime. Is that any crime or just crime against you I wonder. But what about all the innocent people that are guilty of nothing more than wrong place, wrong time? I wonder if you will keep the same attitude if it is one of your friends or family who gets it? The only think difficult to understand is why America has such a boner for guns, let me ask if you think the current cost in lives for your 'right' to have them a)too much b)too little or c)just right. How many innocent people need to die before you, as a society think, you know what, there might be a middle ground here?
Somewhat concerned or frightened sure, not saying you should invite him in for cookies and cream or anything. It's not even that example, that's just a symptom of a society that can run straight to the most deadly weapon at every perceived threat. You said previously you basically have a loaded gun in arms reach of basically anywhere ready for that exact moment the threat strikes. Fuck knows what the actual problem is but it's deeply grained into your society and as long as nothing changes lots and lots and lots of people are going to be shot.
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Well, that should free up some space in the cry room... These silicon valley types that work for fascist companies like fakedouche, giggle, snapcrap, etc. are the biggest bunch of hypocrites and self-serving asshats I have ever had the displeasure to encounter. You snowflake fucks will be the first against the wall.
If you get all bent out shape that 'snowflakes' are doing their thing, that really doesn't affect you in the slightest. Do you not think that makes you a snowflake? I would say it does so fuckoff snowflake and go moan to someone who cares. Maybe try childline.
your a troll
My point isn't that they're right, but they have an idea. Just like WE have an idea about spherical planets. So just like MOND vs dark matter, there's a debate (at least on their side.)
The difference is there is evidence for a round earth, lots and lots and lots of it. There is zero evidence for a flat earth other than some lines in ancient books and ... well that's about it really. Unless you count the dedication to delusion. You'll notice the overwhelming majority of flat eathers are religious types that just can't accept the fact the universe not only wasn't made for them but does not give one single iota of a shit about them.
Not true. You can adopt an adult and become their parent in most states.
But then you would have adults, not children. And your adults would have a parent who was never born.
But wouldn't that make you your own grandparent? Who was never born of course.
Jesus most certainly existed. There is plenty of documented proof of that. Now, whether He was the omnipotent Son of God, that is what is usually the subject of debate.
You're right, Jesus does exist, has existed for a long time and will continue to exist way past man but, surprise ending. Jesus isn't the son of god, he's the sun god. As in, literally the sun. Look it up.
It can't be excluded that a T-rex will walk in, morph into a creature with the head of a crocodile, body of a lion, and limbs of a crab with big, big, titties that lays out in perfect english (with subtitles) everywhere that hawking went wrong and fill out some details. Doesn't mean it's going to happen though.
How do you know it was even possible to legitimately get good grades?
"Mount Diablo Unified School District"
He was clearly going through hell.
If school is so messed up that hacking seems easy...it doesn't seem fair to flunk people who are clearly smarter than what public school is intended for. If this guy had spent all his time doing schoolwork he would not have had those real skills, he would just be another kid who passed geography but doesn't know what a continent is.
You mean a good little dumb cunt that will go get a shit job for low pay and not complain? That's what they're trying to churn out en masse.
Age discrimination of young and old over "safety" related arguments is repulsive. People were once free to travel anywhere they liked without the permission of governments. The idea that safety is so much more important than the population's right to travel is disgusting. And don't go tell me how its a privileged and not a right. It's been understood that people have an inalienable right to travel and the courts reckless disregard for that right has resulted in all sorts of discriminations and tragedies that mostly have no significant impact on safety- but it's an irrelevant argument to me because no amount of improved "safety" can justify the restriction on peoples rights to live outside of a repressive regime.
While the famous Ben Franklin's quote below may be understood out of context to mean something that was not intended it is that interpretation that sums up nicely what I believe:
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
The young are discriminated against and hindered from gaining the skills needed to drive safely and this results in less experienced older drivers. By increasing the age you end up in a never-ending-cycle and argument for increasing the driving age. You can continue this up to and past age 28 because of "brain development". It's ridiculous when you can't hire a kid out of college because the state demands a year of experience with a parent or other adult before they can drive. This has literally prevented me from hiring numerous young persons out of college! At least until I moved my business out of an insane state with this requirement.
Then there are laws in other states where they suspend peoples drivers licenses for "crimes" or debts that have nothing to do with safety and safety isn't even why we have drivers licenses. It was bigotry back in the early 1900s against motor vehicle owners and up until the late 1960s there were even states that had no testing of drivers either oral or road to get a drivers license.
One example of a "crime" that is punished via the restriction of ones driving "privileged" is a NY law that applies to juveniles only (or did) that says if you are caught committing a graffiti crime that you will be prevented from getting a drivers license for a number of years after you otherwise would be able to get one. This doesn't apply to an adult who commits the very same crime! In theory we're suppose to be more lenient with minors and yet frequently the opposite is true. It's a more serious crime or only a crime in many states for a young person to smoke weed- but it's either legal or merely a violation for an adult to do the same thing!
Another group that is discriminated against via drivers licenses suspensions that has nothing to do with safety are people indebted to the state for child support. You might think "Good." because those people are costing us money. The problem with this thinking is a lot of these people didn't even know they had a child because mothers have denied that these kids are the father of the father. When it finally comes out that a father is in fact the father and should have been paying child support the debts to the state (to reimburse the state for welfare basically) have there drivers licenses suspended. Not everybody has 20 or 30 thousand dollars to cover the costs the moment it is decided in court that they are the father and in debt to the state. It's entirely unreasonable for a person to be made to pay on the day of the court ruling that kind of money to the state else face a suspended drivers license. And it doesn't even make sense because you are not hindering that father from employment that would enable him to repay that debt. It's another form of debtors prison that even the British understood hundreds of years ago was a bad idea- and so it was abolished- but not here in the good ol USA.
Then there are laws that discriminate against old people rather than incapable drivers. There are lots of peo
As someone born in Aug of 1928 that has never had an accident, I think this is unfair. I first got my divers license in 1942 when I was 14, I have never even gotten a speeding ticket. I know I'm a safer driver than millennials.
Well keep taking the test to show that. Most 90 year olds can barely keep their skin attached let alone drive.
And what about the moral choice that led to that pregnancy in the first place?
What about the woman who gets raped and falls pregnant, where do your morals fall there? You going to make her have that baby regardless? What if said woman is 13 and was raped by her father? How does that jiggle your moral compass?
Ok, we might not be on 12 hours a day 6 days a week anymore but it still sucks unless you're lucky enough to bag a job you enjoy that doesn't just suck the fun out of it.
"I'm only working here because I need more fucking money"
Well, we're arguing semantics which is half the fun of this place. I would still say a fetus becomes a human when it's born, until then it's a fetus. And to qualify by born I mean removed from the womb and able to survive with out connection to the mother (connection to machines doesn't count, it's still been born then). You're the one who said it becomes a human at the same time as becoming a fetus so I would say the defining point does count, at least to support that argument. The wiki articles will be largely irrelevant as at the end of the day the only definitions that really count are what the law of whatever country says it is. Everything else is open to opinion and interpretation, which is kind of the point of my first post.
Or did I read that wrong, if so, how distinguished are we talking? lumps for arms and legs, a bend for the elbow and knee, fingers and toes?
If you count in days, yes. If you look at it, no.
How many days?
I hope you're ready to put your money where your mouth is.
I would say when it's born There is a reason why we distinguish between an embryo and a fetus.
And as ignorant as most people are: a fetus starts learning the language around him and understands quite a bit of what is talked around him. They play, they sleep and dream. They kick when they want attention etc.
Fetus are full humans long before they are born ...
Citation needed but I'll take your word for it for the sake of argument. When does that embryo become a fetus then? Is there an exact point that YOU can point at and say this is now a human being that is more specific than probably toward the end of the first trimester? Even if we say that a fetus is human and and embryo is not, end of discussion, there's still a fuzzy area there.
Loss of consciousness from complete oxygen deprivation happens within about 15 seconds,
You need to clarify on this point, because someone can hold their breath, depriving themselves of any gasses in the environment, and live longer than 15 seconds.
Blow all the air out of your lungs then hold it. See how long you last compared to when you stack your lungs full of oxygen first.
Well no whether it's a life or not isn't a tricky issue. It's very clearly a living human. The tricky part concerns higher level issues like whether or when it's a 'person' and whether or when termination is permitted. It's silly to try to say it's not a) alive, and b) a member of the Homo sapien species.
Yeah but it's not that simple is it. Is it alive when it would die if not attached to the mother receiving all its nutrients and sustenance? Hmmmm, well, maybe. And again at what point does a fetus become an actual human? I would say when it's born, others might say the moment the sperm goes into the egg or when the first division happens, yet others would point to an (all but) arbitrary point during development. I mean, I guess technically it's always human but so is a dead body.
I just want easy access.
Well, don't buy apple then.
Yeah, and North Korea is democratic.
The problem comes with the name. What do you call a nitrogen gas execution chamber?
Obviously, a "gas chamber". That term has some baggage.
I vote for 'the room of doom'
How does the presence of cctv affect my freedom? It doesn't, in the slightest. The people threatening society are the reason they are there in the first place idiot.
Try dealing with a raged-out, roided-out cop who's pointing a gun at you because some idiot neighbor reported you "breaking in" to your own home.
I actually had something like that once. I'd fallen asleep and woke up to cop in the house because someone had reported someone climbing through a window and my living room window was wide open, but luckily no one here has a gun and the cops less so so after a 5 minute chat everyone was back to business with zero bloodshed.
Not shot by you, just shot. When people are scared of everyone and armed to the teeth, people get shot. Especially when getting shot seems to be considered just punishment for crime. Is that any crime or just crime against you I wonder. But what about all the innocent people that are guilty of nothing more than wrong place, wrong time? I wonder if you will keep the same attitude if it is one of your friends or family who gets it? The only think difficult to understand is why America has such a boner for guns, let me ask if you think the current cost in lives for your 'right' to have them a)too much b)too little or c)just right. How many innocent people need to die before you, as a society think, you know what, there might be a middle ground here?
Somewhat concerned or frightened sure, not saying you should invite him in for cookies and cream or anything. It's not even that example, that's just a symptom of a society that can run straight to the most deadly weapon at every perceived threat. You said previously you basically have a loaded gun in arms reach of basically anywhere ready for that exact moment the threat strikes. Fuck knows what the actual problem is but it's deeply grained into your society and as long as nothing changes lots and lots and lots of people are going to be shot.