As a resident of the east bay, earning 100k and being able to own a house can be a problem so I sympathize with them.
But if your making 200k+ then you're just being jealous.
Depends on cost of living. COL is one thing for a single person and quite another for a family with kids. $160K is nothing in SV as far as I'm concerned, unless you want your kids to live in a shit hole.
See $160K for a family in SV is just barely scrapping by, if you want to feed your kids well and give them some room to live and to go to a decent school district. That's a nice-to-have for some. It is a must-have for me. I didn't work my ass through school and work long hours in the industry just to get a salary that gets my kids to live in a shitty hole in a wall.
I did the numbers on SV COL myself a while ago, which sort of settled the question of whether to move my family from South Florida to the Valley.
A $3K a month to rent a 2-bedroom house? Fuck that! My mortgage in South Florida is $2200/month for a 3-bedroom home with a large patio and a lake view, in a gated community across one of the best public schools in the whole South Florida tri-county area.
There are other areas in the country where COL is a lot cheaper, where I could get a ranch for less of what I'm paying. But then my kids wouldn't have access to all the educational and infrastructure amenities I get in a large metropolis, and I wouldn't have access to the large pool of career opportunities that I have where I am.
Going back to SV cost of living: Unless it is a sign-in bonus, even if you get a bonus, there is the whole cash flow at the start of a gig. I can totally see why $160K feels like scrapping by in SV.
My suggestion to anyone in that situation is to move to another metropolis where the COL is lower, but that has a decent tech job market. Seattle, Austin, Denver, Dallas, South Florida (somewhat). Or do the sacrifice to live in a small but nice metropolis (like Naples, FL) and do consulting (which gets you to travel a lot away from family but with great and beautiful, upscale options for housing, education and other amenities.)
I wouldn't fucking move to SV on a $160K unless with a good sign-in bonus upfront. Anything else would cause a drop in the standard of living that I currently give my family (which is, after all, the whole fucking reason to work one's ass in a financially rewarding career in tech/software.)
Nah, it's because the rich don't want to pay Americans what they're worth. They'd rather import illegals to work for $5/hour cash and ignore the labor laws, safety laws, overtime laws, etc. It's pure selfishness as well as disgust at the vile deplorable American people. It ain't ordinary folks who benefit from illegals.
You are worth what your job and output are worth, economically speaking. No more, no less.
There was the story of a guy (during a tumultuous era of layoffs) that set up his garage with a desk and other office doodads. But he also "drove" to work, so that he still had the 'rhythm' going. The drive would be around the neighborhood block, so when he gets to this office, his coffee pot was nice and warm and he would've gotten a bagel or paper or something. He *did find work eventually so it still paid off somehow--having the mindset that he only had a temporary setback.
You may have seen the TV ad with the office view folding up with the garage door. A tad extreme but it works.
I can see the driving-to-work ritual as something that works. When I work from home, I *have* to dress up. Sometimes I dress up even more formal than when I go to the office simply because I need to get in the mode to work. I can't do that in shorts and slippers.
I interviewed for a DevOps position last year, and referenced over a decade worth of continuous integration tools, configuration management, business analysis, team management, and engagement, in including many of the watch words such as Puppet, Fireman, Jenkins, was turned down as I had not been actively using Puppet in the previous few months. Sometimes the job requirements are strict.
Oh, don't get me wrong, these things happen. For me it's been a couple of times : more than a decade work with WebLogic, Tomcat, JBoss and GlassFish, but nope, no Websphere, no job (for purely front end jobs.) Or like this: 12 years doing Java/JEE, then I *took a break* and went to do embedded C/C++ work for 4 years. Trying to come back to Java? Nope, you are a C/C++ developer the interviewer or headhunter says.
So it happens, but to me when it happens, I see it as a blessing, a bullet that I dodged. Think of the kind of organization that pigeonholes roles over absurd trivial shit like that? Do you think *you* could not have pumped it up back to Puppet in a few days? Those aren't requirements but some bozo doing word matching against a list of keywords.
Very rarely a stringent requirement like that is really valid, like you need to know PIC assembly to implement this urgent hotfix before our delivery date, you know, shit like that that does not give the person ramp up time.
But something like that is for a consultant position, for an emergency, get-in/get-out kind of a job. For anything more than 6 months, it is ridiculous. Obviously we need to get a paycheck every other week, but in general, not getting picked up for some bullshit like that, I consider that a blessing.
In my experience, that is completely different. If you interview for a DevOps role, you will be asked a laundry list of programs like Puppet, Chef, Ansible, Bamboo, Jenkins, TeamCity, Vagrant, Terraform, Saltstack, Kubernates, Katello, Foreman, and Rake. If you don't know one of those programs (say you know the ins and outs of GitHub Enterprise, but not BitBucket), the interview stops -right there-, you are shown the door, and they call for the next candidate.
Second you are asked is what is in your GitHub account. For example, I have some custom Puppet and Ansible stuff. It gets checked, and the interviewers will ask questions about it.
Third, you likely will get asked how you set up a CI/CD structure. Unit tests on code after merge, a test environment, etc.
Of course, there is a lot of interest in serverless offerings like Amazon Lambda, as the grandparent poster states, just because management can say that they run an "IT-less" shop, touting the fact that they have saved the company by closing down one of the biggest and unprofitable divisions by moving it to AWS.
To me, that's a horrible way of hiring: If I look for someone for a DevOps job, if you know one (say, Puppet, Chef or Ansible) and you show the architectural mind to actually implement an automation solution, that's gold. Say, we use Ansible, but you know Puppet. Well, if you can demonstrate to be a developer with an analytical mind with a sufficiently good understanding of systems and networks and a self-learner, you are in.
The most important thing for DevOps in the majority of cases is not deep knowledge of a variety of tools, but understanding things like "infrastructure as code", automation, working with processes and standards, release cycles, and business analysis with development as the driving business. The rest, that's tool minutia.
Incorrect - we've been HAVING the recession for years. We are now entering an expansion phase. Everyone else knows this (especially the markets), why do you not understand this?
When the tax rate drops hit you are going to see an unprecedented growth spree from businesses that have been choking on the U.S. largest corporate tax rate for the last decade or so.
Err no, the recession ended in 2009. There was a small dip in 2013, and then it bounced back. Salaries have gone up and hiring has also gone up. I've been tracking this shit for years (since my first bubble-burst layoff in 2000.) I'd say there are big cycles of 8-10 years that interlace with smaller 4-5 year cycles.
We could be hitting a dip again at the end of 2017 (if we use 2009 as the start of this cycle), or 2019-2020 (if we assume 2013 reset the chronometers for a big cycle, or as as start of a mini-cycle.)
Either way, anyone worth a shit in this industry banks on a dip cycle ever 4-5 years and 3-6 months of unemployment every 8-10 years, and plans accordingly.
and both are really quite bad, given the context. the latter though, wtf...!?
The later strongly suggest the whole "they are both equally bad" is nothing but a fallacy. They are both bad, but not equally (Trump is a complete fucking liability to our national security), no matter how people want to cut the mustard.
If H1Bs are bad, why are illegal immigrants from Mexico good?
They are not both bad. And there is a lot of good in both. Not everything truly fits simple-minded dichotomies.
As for H1B, frankly, after seeing so many rodeos in the last 22 years , I don't give a damn when I see some of the people being replaced by them. Every once in a while you see good software/IT people getting trounced, but in general, it's just the folks warming chairs doing the type of IT work that can be automated, mostly. 9-5 for 30 years with a gold watch at the end kind of type.
So let friction create competition. People stand up or fall. It's not like we are talking about at-risk kids or something, but white-collar people who command hefty salaries and are supposed to be the most versatile in the white collar workforce.
Anyone worth a shit in this industry can land with both feet firmly on the ground. If you get replaced by an H1B and have no alternatives on hand, shit, you need to give yourself a hard look.
The article is what makes no sense. If all these employees were making huge amounts of money, why would they leave and start companies in the same industry? They obviously felt they could make more money on their own or at different companies.
Looks like a simple case of a CEO looking at the peon employes and thinking "look at all those overpayed assholes." The "overpaid assholes" then leave the company, and the CEO finds out all his talent is gone and his company is bust.
Once you are loaded with money and without a problem in finding any job and salary of your liking, you are free to quit and work for something that you like, even if it means taking a pay cut.
So:
- They're really keen on money so they've become CEO of a company they founded in hopes of pulling a Zuckerburg, or
- They're not really keen on money and want to work on things that interest them.
Being cash bloated lets you do either.
Yes, there fucking is. Do I need to google some examples for you?
Tell us more how you know how 60 million people think...
If racism really did elect Trump; Why is it that the acceptance of interracial relationships/marriage is at an all time high? Why would people vote Obama and then Trump if they were so racist and needed a Trump to blabber it?
Here's a thought. Maybe there are different reasons to vote for him over his top contender that had nothing to do with any *ism that has been thrown around so often that "people I disagree with" is now "Nazi"...
It doesn't fucking matter if there were people who voted for Trump other than race. They (including many minorities for Christ's sake) all looked the other way to Trump's undeniably racist, exceedingly Islamophobic platform.
Everything else, that's just sophistries trying to sugarsplain it after the fact.
There is a difference between "possible" and "mass market sales". It is possible to bring people to the moon and back. However, commercial holliday's to the moon will not happen for a LONG time.
People said the same about commercial flights... and yet.
Shit I cannot remember the name of this pre-WWI general who stated there was no future for airplanes in a war theater. The quote would be totally appropriate in this context.
Well, if you consider nude model photos as porn then yeah, sure (I wouldn't, but then TFA is about Playboy so...)
If it's nude models posing for art painting or sculpting I wouldn't. For a magazine or publication that everyone knows people will buy to fap with, yeah, porn.
Why do you suppose that is? I think it must be because Walmart is the best place to work for compared to those others
Nooo. Because it is the largest employer, and sometimes the only employer, with open positions. Other smaller players have equally shitty positions, but in less numbers, or have better positions (but again, in smaller numbers.)
I'm not going around hating Walmart, but I'm not going to bullshit myself to think people go to work at Walmart because ZOMGITSOFUCKINGAWESOMETHEBESTBIGLY.
And yet Walmart doesn't seem to have a problem finding employees.
That's a sign of necessity, not because that shit is awesome. BTW, I do not buy that a minimum wage is/should be a living wage. The solution is not to make a minimum wage a living wage, but to create routes for people to progress economically.
And that's what the problem is. There used to be a time, not that long actually, where people could reasonably climb up out of minimum wages. Why? Because there was a variety of jobs.
Things have changed. Whole classes of jobs do not exist anymore; this country hasn't cultivated its human capital; companies no longer offer full-time jobs with benefits; etc.
So the result is that people are stuck with minimum part-time jobs without benefits. At least in big cities, people get the opportunity to work multiple part-time jobs to makes ends meet (a hard proposition, but better than nothing.)
In many parts of Rural America, OTH, that option doesn't even exist (and will not be fixed by simply increasing the minimum.)
With all due respect, great you found and posted the definition of a living wage.
I don't know how old you are but I turn 49 in a few days. At no time in my IT career have I ever seen a living wage. I did receive a nice boost in salary when the one company I worked for was bought out and they gave me a nice boost in pay to match what other employees were making at a similar position. My wife is a teacher with 21 years experience including receiving teacher of the year for her brilliant work with inner city kids. She also has yet to receive a living wage. It's a concept that simply doesn't exist. I watched my father work for a large international company and he went 4 years once with basically 1% increase each year. He retired from that company after 30 years of service. He held a pretty important position and loved his job but never once did he receive anything close to a living wage.
Maybe at some union shops you get a living wage. But you turn around and have to pay union dues which removes any benefit of a so called living wage. And those dues always seem to go up each year.
If at 49 and in IT you haven't seen a living wage, you have been fucking up big time.
I'm 47, in Software and IT, where salaries are way above the median, in an industry where a 6-figure salary for a senior position is the norm.
An IT salary not being a living salary? There something fubar with personal finances me thinks.
I voted for Trump, because I can't stand the Clintons.
Everything you said after this was bullshit.
You didn't vote for Trump because he was more qualified. He wasn't.
You didn't vote for Trump because he had better policies: He didn't.
You didn't vote for Trump because he was a more stable candidate: He wasn't.
You didn't vote for Trump because he wasn't dangerous: He is.
You didn't vote for Trump because you want good government: He was always the worst candidate.
You voted for Trump because you hated something else. Don't pretend he was the better candidate, every act and objective measure demonstrates that to be false. At least be honest, you voted for him because you care more about seeing your team win politics than about your country.
You are what is broken in a democracy.
Thank you. I'm not sure about the OP, but I know for a fact that many people voted for him simply because Trump went George Wallace. That was an appetite long repressed and buried deep within closets. It just needed someone like Trump to yell the modern equivalent of the n* word (Mexicans and Muslims) for that appetite to burst out of the closets.
I voted for Trump, because I can't stand the Clintons. I'm not for Trump, or for the Republican party. I'm for the US - I want good government.
So even though I agree with most of Trump's positions, I'm glad that the Democrats and the press point out the ways that Trump messes up, like selecting a national security adviser who can be blackmailed. We have to correct problems like that.
You voted for a racist motherfucker who spearheaded the Birther movement, why that God-awful racist attempt to delegitimize the first African-American president of the United Status. Since it was no longer fashionable to call Obama a n*, the best option was to call him a Muslim (as if that was a bad thing) born in Kenya (which was patently false.) And Trump spearheaded that, to deny an US born American citizen his birthright of being, you know, a US born citizen.
And this ape went on to call Judge Curiel, a US born judge, a "Mexican", questioning Curiel's ability to do his job because his parents were Mexican.
A man who to this day blames those poor black guys known as the Central Park Five for a crime they did not commit.
A man who stated the majority of illegals were murderers and rapists, with some he magnanimously assumed, being good people.
A man who pretty much promised a Muslim ban, a ban based on faith.
That man, Trump, is a fucking bigot (or played one for the bigoted masses, of which there is really no difference.)
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As a resident of the east bay, earning 100k and being able to own a house can be a problem so I sympathize with them.
But if your making 200k+ then you're just being jealous.
Depends on cost of living. COL is one thing for a single person and quite another for a family with kids. $160K is nothing in SV as far as I'm concerned, unless you want your kids to live in a shit hole.
See $160K for a family in SV is just barely scrapping by, if you want to feed your kids well and give them some room to live and to go to a decent school district. That's a nice-to-have for some. It is a must-have for me. I didn't work my ass through school and work long hours in the industry just to get a salary that gets my kids to live in a shitty hole in a wall.
I did the numbers on SV COL myself a while ago, which sort of settled the question of whether to move my family from South Florida to the Valley.
A $3K a month to rent a 2-bedroom house? Fuck that! My mortgage in South Florida is $2200/month for a 3-bedroom home with a large patio and a lake view, in a gated community across one of the best public schools in the whole South Florida tri-county area.
There are other areas in the country where COL is a lot cheaper, where I could get a ranch for less of what I'm paying. But then my kids wouldn't have access to all the educational and infrastructure amenities I get in a large metropolis, and I wouldn't have access to the large pool of career opportunities that I have where I am.
Going back to SV cost of living: Unless it is a sign-in bonus, even if you get a bonus, there is the whole cash flow at the start of a gig. I can totally see why $160K feels like scrapping by in SV.
My suggestion to anyone in that situation is to move to another metropolis where the COL is lower, but that has a decent tech job market. Seattle, Austin, Denver, Dallas, South Florida (somewhat). Or do the sacrifice to live in a small but nice metropolis (like Naples, FL) and do consulting (which gets you to travel a lot away from family but with great and beautiful, upscale options for housing, education and other amenities.)
I wouldn't fucking move to SV on a $160K unless with a good sign-in bonus upfront. Anything else would cause a drop in the standard of living that I currently give my family (which is, after all, the whole fucking reason to work one's ass in a financially rewarding career in tech/software.)
Nah, it's because the rich don't want to pay Americans what they're worth. They'd rather import illegals to work for $5/hour cash and ignore the labor laws, safety laws, overtime laws, etc. It's pure selfishness as well as disgust at the vile deplorable American people. It ain't ordinary folks who benefit from illegals.
You are worth what your job and output are worth, economically speaking. No more, no less.
Holy shit dude, you didn't even read the first sentence of the summary. Is this the new normal on Slashdot, only reading the headline?
Yes, and with an ID of 196126, you really shouldn't be that surprised by this. Seems 140 chars is the new limit on attention spans.
In slashdot, comparing IDs is the new "my dick is bigger than yours". How quaint.
There was the story of a guy (during a tumultuous era of layoffs) that set up his garage with a desk and other office doodads. But he also "drove" to work, so that he still had the 'rhythm' going. The drive would be around the neighborhood block, so when he gets to this office, his coffee pot was nice and warm and he would've gotten a bagel or paper or something. He *did find work eventually so it still paid off somehow--having the mindset that he only had a temporary setback.
You may have seen the TV ad with the office view folding up with the garage door. A tad extreme but it works.
I can see the driving-to-work ritual as something that works. When I work from home, I *have* to dress up. Sometimes I dress up even more formal than when I go to the office simply because I need to get in the mode to work. I can't do that in shorts and slippers.
I interviewed for a DevOps position last year, and referenced over a decade worth of continuous integration tools, configuration management, business analysis, team management, and engagement, in including many of the watch words such as Puppet, Fireman, Jenkins, was turned down as I had not been actively using Puppet in the previous few months. Sometimes the job requirements are strict.
Oh, don't get me wrong, these things happen. For me it's been a couple of times : more than a decade work with WebLogic, Tomcat, JBoss and GlassFish, but nope, no Websphere, no job (for purely front end jobs.) Or like this: 12 years doing Java/JEE, then I *took a break* and went to do embedded C/C++ work for 4 years. Trying to come back to Java? Nope, you are a C/C++ developer the interviewer or headhunter says.
So it happens, but to me when it happens, I see it as a blessing, a bullet that I dodged. Think of the kind of organization that pigeonholes roles over absurd trivial shit like that? Do you think *you* could not have pumped it up back to Puppet in a few days? Those aren't requirements but some bozo doing word matching against a list of keywords.
Very rarely a stringent requirement like that is really valid, like you need to know PIC assembly to implement this urgent hotfix before our delivery date, you know, shit like that that does not give the person ramp up time.
But something like that is for a consultant position, for an emergency, get-in/get-out kind of a job. For anything more than 6 months, it is ridiculous. Obviously we need to get a paycheck every other week, but in general, not getting picked up for some bullshit like that, I consider that a blessing.
In my experience, that is completely different. If you interview for a DevOps role, you will be asked a laundry list of programs like Puppet, Chef, Ansible, Bamboo, Jenkins, TeamCity, Vagrant, Terraform, Saltstack, Kubernates, Katello, Foreman, and Rake. If you don't know one of those programs (say you know the ins and outs of GitHub Enterprise, but not BitBucket), the interview stops -right there-, you are shown the door, and they call for the next candidate.
Second you are asked is what is in your GitHub account. For example, I have some custom Puppet and Ansible stuff. It gets checked, and the interviewers will ask questions about it.
Third, you likely will get asked how you set up a CI/CD structure. Unit tests on code after merge, a test environment, etc.
Of course, there is a lot of interest in serverless offerings like Amazon Lambda, as the grandparent poster states, just because management can say that they run an "IT-less" shop, touting the fact that they have saved the company by closing down one of the biggest and unprofitable divisions by moving it to AWS.
To me, that's a horrible way of hiring: If I look for someone for a DevOps job, if you know one (say, Puppet, Chef or Ansible) and you show the architectural mind to actually implement an automation solution, that's gold. Say, we use Ansible, but you know Puppet. Well, if you can demonstrate to be a developer with an analytical mind with a sufficiently good understanding of systems and networks and a self-learner, you are in.
The most important thing for DevOps in the majority of cases is not deep knowledge of a variety of tools, but understanding things like "infrastructure as code", automation, working with processes and standards, release cycles, and business analysis with development as the driving business. The rest, that's tool minutia.
We're overdue for a recession.
Incorrect - we've been HAVING the recession for years. We are now entering an expansion phase. Everyone else knows this (especially the markets), why do you not understand this?
When the tax rate drops hit you are going to see an unprecedented growth spree from businesses that have been choking on the U.S. largest corporate tax rate for the last decade or so.
Err no, the recession ended in 2009. There was a small dip in 2013, and then it bounced back. Salaries have gone up and hiring has also gone up. I've been tracking this shit for years (since my first bubble-burst layoff in 2000.) I'd say there are big cycles of 8-10 years that interlace with smaller 4-5 year cycles.
We could be hitting a dip again at the end of 2017 (if we use 2009 as the start of this cycle), or 2019-2020 (if we assume 2013 reset the chronometers for a big cycle, or as as start of a mini-cycle.)
Either way, anyone worth a shit in this industry banks on a dip cycle ever 4-5 years and 3-6 months of unemployment every 8-10 years, and plans accordingly.
TLDR; don't rest on your damned laurels.
and both are really quite bad, given the context. the latter though, wtf...!?
The later strongly suggest the whole "they are both equally bad" is nothing but a fallacy. They are both bad, but not equally (Trump is a complete fucking liability to our national security), no matter how people want to cut the mustard.
So, it is a big problem.
Could be worse they could be running a private Email Server
Or taking selfies with the football man.
If H1Bs are bad, why are illegal immigrants from Mexico good?
They are not both bad. And there is a lot of good in both. Not everything truly fits simple-minded dichotomies.
As for H1B, frankly, after seeing so many rodeos in the last 22 years , I don't give a damn when I see some of the people being replaced by them. Every once in a while you see good software/IT people getting trounced, but in general, it's just the folks warming chairs doing the type of IT work that can be automated, mostly. 9-5 for 30 years with a gold watch at the end kind of type.
So let friction create competition. People stand up or fall. It's not like we are talking about at-risk kids or something, but white-collar people who command hefty salaries and are supposed to be the most versatile in the white collar workforce.
Anyone worth a shit in this industry can land with both feet firmly on the ground. If you get replaced by an H1B and have no alternatives on hand, shit, you need to give yourself a hard look.
The article is what makes no sense. If all these employees were making huge amounts of money, why would they leave and start companies in the same industry? They obviously felt they could make more money on their own or at different companies.
Looks like a simple case of a CEO looking at the peon employes and thinking "look at all those overpayed assholes." The "overpaid assholes" then leave the company, and the CEO finds out all his talent is gone and his company is bust.
Once you are loaded with money and without a problem in finding any job and salary of your liking, you are free to quit and work for something that you like, even if it means taking a pay cut.
That's what financial independence looks like.
There's no career path from Engineer to CEO.
So: - They're really keen on money so they've become CEO of a company they founded in hopes of pulling a Zuckerburg, or - They're not really keen on money and want to work on things that interest them.
Being cash bloated lets you do either.
Yes, there fucking is. Do I need to google some examples for you?
Tell us more how you know how 60 million people think...
If racism really did elect Trump; Why is it that the acceptance of interracial relationships/marriage is at an all time high? Why would people vote Obama and then Trump if they were so racist and needed a Trump to blabber it?
Here's a thought. Maybe there are different reasons to vote for him over his top contender that had nothing to do with any *ism that has been thrown around so often that "people I disagree with" is now "Nazi"...
It doesn't fucking matter if there were people who voted for Trump other than race. They (including many minorities for Christ's sake) all looked the other way to Trump's undeniably racist, exceedingly Islamophobic platform.
Everything else, that's just sophistries trying to sugarsplain it after the fact.
There is a difference between "possible" and "mass market sales". It is possible to bring people to the moon and back. However, commercial holliday's to the moon will not happen for a LONG time.
People said the same about commercial flights... and yet.
Shit I cannot remember the name of this pre-WWI general who stated there was no future for airplanes in a war theater. The quote would be totally appropriate in this context.
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In America, naked women look like planets.
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Well, if you consider nude model photos as porn then yeah, sure (I wouldn't, but then TFA is about Playboy so...)
If it's nude models posing for art painting or sculpting I wouldn't. For a magazine or publication that everyone knows people will buy to fap with, yeah, porn.
Why do you suppose that is? I think it must be because Walmart is the best place to work for compared to those others
Nooo. Because it is the largest employer, and sometimes the only employer, with open positions. Other smaller players have equally shitty positions, but in less numbers, or have better positions (but again, in smaller numbers.)
I'm not going around hating Walmart, but I'm not going to bullshit myself to think people go to work at Walmart because ZOMGITSOFUCKINGAWESOMETHEBESTBIGLY.
And yet Walmart doesn't seem to have a problem finding employees.
That's a sign of necessity, not because that shit is awesome. BTW, I do not buy that a minimum wage is/should be a living wage. The solution is not to make a minimum wage a living wage, but to create routes for people to progress economically.
And that's what the problem is. There used to be a time, not that long actually, where people could reasonably climb up out of minimum wages. Why? Because there was a variety of jobs.
Things have changed. Whole classes of jobs do not exist anymore; this country hasn't cultivated its human capital; companies no longer offer full-time jobs with benefits; etc.
So the result is that people are stuck with minimum part-time jobs without benefits. At least in big cities, people get the opportunity to work multiple part-time jobs to makes ends meet (a hard proposition, but better than nothing.)
In many parts of Rural America, OTH, that option doesn't even exist (and will not be fixed by simply increasing the minimum.)
With all due respect, great you found and posted the definition of a living wage.
I don't know how old you are but I turn 49 in a few days. At no time in my IT career have I ever seen a living wage. I did receive a nice boost in salary when the one company I worked for was bought out and they gave me a nice boost in pay to match what other employees were making at a similar position. My wife is a teacher with 21 years experience including receiving teacher of the year for her brilliant work with inner city kids. She also has yet to receive a living wage. It's a concept that simply doesn't exist. I watched my father work for a large international company and he went 4 years once with basically 1% increase each year. He retired from that company after 30 years of service. He held a pretty important position and loved his job but never once did he receive anything close to a living wage.
Maybe at some union shops you get a living wage. But you turn around and have to pay union dues which removes any benefit of a so called living wage. And those dues always seem to go up each year.
If at 49 and in IT you haven't seen a living wage, you have been fucking up big time.
I'm 47, in Software and IT, where salaries are way above the median, in an industry where a 6-figure salary for a senior position is the norm.
An IT salary not being a living salary? There something fubar with personal finances me thinks.
I voted for Trump, because I can't stand the Clintons.
Everything you said after this was bullshit. You didn't vote for Trump because he was more qualified. He wasn't. You didn't vote for Trump because he had better policies: He didn't. You didn't vote for Trump because he was a more stable candidate: He wasn't. You didn't vote for Trump because he wasn't dangerous: He is. You didn't vote for Trump because you want good government: He was always the worst candidate. You voted for Trump because you hated something else. Don't pretend he was the better candidate, every act and objective measure demonstrates that to be false. At least be honest, you voted for him because you care more about seeing your team win politics than about your country. You are what is broken in a democracy.
Thank you. I'm not sure about the OP, but I know for a fact that many people voted for him simply because Trump went George Wallace. That was an appetite long repressed and buried deep within closets. It just needed someone like Trump to yell the modern equivalent of the n* word (Mexicans and Muslims) for that appetite to burst out of the closets.
I voted for Trump, because I can't stand the Clintons. I'm not for Trump, or for the Republican party. I'm for the US - I want good government.
So even though I agree with most of Trump's positions, I'm glad that the Democrats and the press point out the ways that Trump messes up, like selecting a national security adviser who can be blackmailed. We have to correct problems like that.
You voted for a racist motherfucker who spearheaded the Birther movement, why that God-awful racist attempt to delegitimize the first African-American president of the United Status. Since it was no longer fashionable to call Obama a n*, the best option was to call him a Muslim (as if that was a bad thing) born in Kenya (which was patently false.) And Trump spearheaded that, to deny an US born American citizen his birthright of being, you know, a US born citizen.
And this ape went on to call Judge Curiel, a US born judge, a "Mexican", questioning Curiel's ability to do his job because his parents were Mexican.
A man who to this day blames those poor black guys known as the Central Park Five for a crime they did not commit.
A man who stated the majority of illegals were murderers and rapists, with some he magnanimously assumed, being good people.
A man who pretty much promised a Muslim ban, a ban based on faith.
That man, Trump, is a fucking bigot (or played one for the bigoted masses, of which there is really no difference.)
And you looked the other way and voted for him.
That's who you are.
The Physics angle is unclear, but that practicality is not there is extremely obvious.
But that was not the question I asked, was it?
Your assumption that I'm in your country is pretty ignorant of you.
His observation applies to pretty much every country. Sooner or later, this reality will hit us all.