It wasn't just a jet, it was jets and torpedo boats. There was no mistake. They had recon planes buzzing the Liberty for hours before the attack. They knew the ship well even before the six day war.
They claim it was an Egyptian horse transport. That ship was half the size of the Liberty and had a completely different profile. there was no mistake. The Liberty was clearly marked, and flew the American flag. It was in international waters and was not acting in a hostile manner.
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1. That would mean telling the very people they wanted to keep in the dark.
2. Not sure if I can address every concern because that gets into methods. The first thing the Israelis did was cripple communications. The first torpedo hit the com center killing all within. It took a while to get an SOS out.
They even shot down our Flag, but our sailors risked their lives to run up a new, even larger American flag. they knew it was an American ship. It was clearly market, the weather clear. Our sailors were sun bathing on deck and waved and cheered the Israeli pilots circling the ship. They had no idea of what was coming.
Two Israeli pilots refused to fire on Americans and were punished. They were the only ones disciplined. Because of that, it would be very difficult for the government to pretend they didn't know it was an American ship.
The Captain of the Liberty was given the CMOH, but the ceremony was done at a hanger, not the White House because of protests from the Israeli government.
My anger is at the Israeli government, not the Israeli people.
Our government should have stood by our sailors. Our government acted cowardly. What a great disappointment.
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The USS Liberty was a spy ship. Israel was doing some things they didn't want anyone else to know. They tried to sink the ship and destroy all lifeboats. They wanted no witnesses. There are suggestions that they feared the USS Liberty had intercepted info that could have exposed Israel to war crime charges. The whole story will come out someday.
Bamford's account on the USS Liberty murders was right on the money. I'm a veteran of the "Green NSA", the Army Security Agency. I was on duty on that fateful day in 1967. I was at the east African station he mentioned. I'm glad he debunked the "mistaken identity" lies about the murderous attack on our sailors. He was also right about our government siding with the Israelis time and time again when we tried to get justice for our heros. They even called off rescue efforts when they found the attackers were Israeli.
After having to hold in my anger and hurt for 30 years, it was wonderful to find someone on our side. Thank you Mr Bamford.
Don't get me wrong, I do believe in standing with Israel, but they got to return the favor. Friendships should be a two way street. Israel, stand up and take responsibility for your actions against the USS Liberty. We do believe in forgiveness. Trust us.
That's It. It is 82" long. I used 164" of telephone wire. Stripped the ends of the green and black wires. I then attached the phone wire to a 7' bamboo pole with duct tape. I twisted the bare wire ends, and attached them to alligator clips. Those clips I attached to a Balun. The coxial cable from the converter box is attached to the Balun. Radio Shack carries Baluns. They are cheap.
Look for images of a folded dipole on google. They are very simple to make. http://www.electronics-radio.com/articles/radio/antennas/dipole/folded_dipole.gif
A folded dipole works for me. It's 82" across, made of Telephone station wire, duct tape, bamboo pole, two alligator clips, and a Balun. Lay it down behind your TV and it will do fine.
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Why do they make things so complicated? Are they trying to trick consumers to either over buy or under buy then have to shell out more money to right their original mistake?
Insist on payment for the original notes. The teacher doesn't need to know of the copies. $10 per sheet would be a fair price to ask, but can be adjusted for tuition inflation. Copyright your notes.
It didn't help my mother. She knocked back the coffee like a real pro. The operative words are "can reduce." I have a 50 50 chance of coming down with Alzheimer's. I'm doing what I can to protect myself, but I know "can reduce" means little compared to "will prevent."
It is collective punishment, a practice banned by the UN.
Anyway, both sides of this fight need the other. External enemies help the more conservative nationalist politicians hold onto power. bush used bin Laden to get reelected, and Ahmadinejad would have never gained power without bush and his "axis of evil" declaration.
Our priest had the best white and rose wines. He was stingy with it so he had plenty left over at the end. By the third service of the day, his sermons became very animated.
He was gay, not a pederast. Everyone knew, but being Episcopals, we were too polite to say any anything. Anyway, he was a real nice guy and very funny when drunk. He was not a weak passive type of guy. He was known as a hell raiser and a street brawler. He didn't fit the stereotype.
Knowing him may have helped make me a more tolerant person.
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It wasn't just a jet, it was jets and torpedo boats. There was no mistake. They had recon planes buzzing the Liberty for hours before the attack. They knew the ship well even before the six day war.
They claim it was an Egyptian horse transport. That ship was half the size of the Liberty and had a completely different profile. there was no mistake. The Liberty was clearly marked, and flew the American flag. It was in international waters and was not acting in a hostile manner.
1. That would mean telling the very people they wanted to keep in the dark.
2. Not sure if I can address every concern because that gets into methods. The first thing the Israelis did was cripple communications. The first torpedo hit the com center killing all within. It took a while to get an SOS out.
They even shot down our Flag, but our sailors risked their lives to run up a new, even larger American flag. they knew it was an American ship. It was clearly market, the weather clear. Our sailors were sun bathing on deck and waved and cheered the Israeli pilots circling the ship. They had no idea of what was coming.
Two Israeli pilots refused to fire on Americans and were punished. They were the only ones disciplined. Because of that, it would be very difficult for the government to pretend they didn't know it was an American ship.
The Captain of the Liberty was given the CMOH, but the ceremony was done at a hanger, not the White House because of protests from the Israeli government.
My anger is at the Israeli government, not the Israeli people.
Our government should have stood by our sailors. Our government acted cowardly. What a great disappointment.
The USS Liberty was a spy ship. Israel was doing some things they didn't want anyone else to know. They tried to sink the ship and destroy all lifeboats. They wanted no witnesses. There are suggestions that they feared the USS Liberty had intercepted info that could have exposed Israel to war crime charges. The whole story will come out someday.
Bamford's account on the USS Liberty murders was right on the money. I'm a veteran of the "Green NSA", the Army Security Agency. I was on duty on that fateful day in 1967. I was at the east African station he mentioned. I'm glad he debunked the "mistaken identity" lies about the murderous attack on our sailors. He was also right about our government siding with the Israelis time and time again when we tried to get justice for our heros. They even called off rescue efforts when they found the attackers were Israeli.
After having to hold in my anger and hurt for 30 years, it was wonderful to find someone on our side. Thank you Mr Bamford.
Don't get me wrong, I do believe in standing with Israel, but they got to return the favor. Friendships should be a two way street. Israel, stand up and take responsibility for your actions against the USS Liberty. We do believe in forgiveness. Trust us.
That's It. It is 82" long. I used 164" of telephone wire. Stripped the ends of the green and black wires. I then attached the phone wire to a 7' bamboo pole with duct tape. I twisted the bare wire ends, and attached them to alligator clips. Those clips I attached to a Balun. The coxial cable from the converter box is attached to the Balun. Radio Shack carries Baluns. They are cheap.
Look for images of a folded dipole on google. They are very simple to make.
http://www.electronics-radio.com/articles/radio/antennas/dipole/folded_dipole.gif
My folded dipole works fine from ch 4 to ch 67. I get about 16 channels. Got one that's kinda flaky, but it religious stuff and I don't watch it.
http://www.k7mem.150m.com/Electronic_Notebook/antennas/folded_dipole.html
A folded dipole works for me. It's 82" across, made of Telephone station wire, duct tape, bamboo pole, two alligator clips, and a Balun. Lay it down behind your TV and it will do fine.
Soon your TV could be Unix. There's rumors that Apple is going to make their own brand TV.
If it is based on a Nix, I'm fine with it.
Fuck them. Linux, OSX or nothing.
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Windows 7 for underpowered niche market laptops
Windows 7 for suburban corn flake encrusted desktops
Windows 7 for small businesses with forms needed for bankruptcy filing
Windows 7 for medium businesses. Deluxe bankruptcy forms.
Windows 7 for big businesses and people with delusions of grandeur. Cayman Island bank directory, and trophy wife directory.
That's it. If a free distro doesn't fit your purposes, you aren't out a hundred plus. You just wasted a bit of time.
How much do they cost?
Why do they make things so complicated? Are they trying to trick consumers to either over buy or under buy then have to shell out more money to right their original mistake?
It seems kinda sleazy to me.
I'll stick with OSX and Linux.
MuCommander is pretty good. It even has a dorky icon.
http://www.mucommander.com/
are your friend. She wants possession of your property, make him/her pay a fair market price. Keep the originals or the copies.
Insist on payment for the original notes. The teacher doesn't need to know of the copies. $10 per sheet would be a fair price to ask, but can be adjusted for tuition inflation. Copyright your notes.
It didn't help my mother. She knocked back the coffee like a real pro. The operative words are "can reduce." I have a 50 50 chance of coming down with Alzheimer's. I'm doing what I can to protect myself, but I know "can reduce" means little compared to "will prevent."
It is collective punishment, a practice banned by the UN.
Anyway, both sides of this fight need the other. External enemies help the more conservative nationalist politicians hold onto power. bush used bin Laden to get reelected, and Ahmadinejad would have never gained power without bush and his "axis of evil" declaration.
Wipe the drive clean and install Slackware. Let them do their own configuration. No need to coddle them. They'll learn quicker that way.
Never liked granny that much anyway.
snacks, and porn.
It was a nude Mike Huckabee.
Our priest had the best white and rose wines. He was stingy with it so he had plenty left over at the end. By the third service of the day, his sermons became very animated.
He was gay, not a pederast. Everyone knew, but being Episcopals, we were too polite to say any anything. Anyway, he was a real nice guy and very funny when drunk. He was not a weak passive type of guy. He was known as a hell raiser and a street brawler. He didn't fit the stereotype.
Knowing him may have helped make me a more tolerant person.
You might run afoul of Fox lawyers too. they want them all to themselves. Perverts.
Be sure not to take them across state lines.