I think it's worth noting for anyone considering hosting a version of DekiWiki that MindTouch/OpenGarden interprets the GPL to mean that any USER of the software should have access to the full source including any modifications you've made (a la Affero GPL).
I fully agree. I run Redhat 9 on my webserver, XP Pro on my laptop and Mac OS X at work. I have tried on more than one occasion to switch from XP to Linux at home on a desktop computer but the sad fact is it's just not ready yet.
Linux won't work with my Canon Printer or Canon Scanner, I can't even get it to see my Sony Digital Camera. I've tried several distros just to see if any of them would work (Lindows, Debian, Mandrake, Redhat 9 and SuSE). I'm sure there's probably some convoluted way of getting everything to work, which for me might be fine, but it's enough to keep me from recommending Linux to others.
No, you're both wrong... of course no one forces them to provide content free of charge and no one is forcing you to visit a site that "tricks" you into downloading an interstitial.
It's capitalism--if you don't like the ads, stop visiting the sites, if you don't mind them, keep going there. If enough people don't like them, the company will change its ways or go out of business. It's that simple. The choice is yours 100%. Personally, I don't visit sites with pop-ups or interstitials, one offense is enough for me to know not to go back to that site, and even if I were paying for bandwidth, after it happened once, I've learned my lesson and can add that site to my hosts file as one to block.
I second WebGUI. I've created close to a dozen sites using it--it's 100% customizable, yet works out of the box.
It inlcudes, out of the box, forums, blogging capabilities, photo albums, uploads, forms and a myriad of other features.
Setup isn't bad either--they've created a decent script to get you up and running and one instance of WebGUI can power as many sites as your server can handle.
I have Lindows installed on two boxes here at home. It does a great job of getting you up and going with the minimum configuration (video cards, networking etc. etc.)in literally 10 minutes flat then you can use it just as you would a normal Debian install with aptitude etc. etc.
I realize the fact that it's not 100% free isn't popular, but as far as I'm concerned, it's the only way to do Debian.
You're showing your ignorance to basic capitalism.
BS patent or not, Netflix having a patent on this method of DVD rentals kills the competition--whether it comes from a Big Corporation or otherwise. A lack of competition is ALWAYS bad for the consumer. In the end, it's not WalMart who's getting screwed, it's you.
Am I the only one who got the chills when that guy said that he plays 5 hours a day and 8 hours on weekend... that's 41 hours a week! That is a very significant portion of your life spent sitting at the computer doing nothing productive (social or otherwise).
Whether it's TV or playing games, that is just way too much time.
Don't get me wrong, I play a bit of CS here and there too, but wow... I'm rethinking the 45 minutes a day I play after watching that documentary.
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Lawyers against Linux A software company launches a billion-dollar suit against the open-source operating system's biggest backer, IBM -- and only succeeds in underscoring Linux's strength.
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June 3, 2003 | If you ask Chris Sontag, a vice president at the SCO Group, how his tiny software firm decided to launch a billion-dollar lawsuit against IBM and became, in the process, the most reviled name in the open-source programming world, he'll tell you that the whole thing started rather innocently. Sontag says that SCO did not go looking for trouble with fans of free software; instead, trouble found SCO. In January the company, which makes most of its money from the sale of Unix and Linux operating system software, embarked on a routine review of its business holdings. And during the review, "we identified some concerns we had in terms of our intellectual property."
Specifically, the company determined that some source code in Linux had a lot in common with code in Unix -- and SCO says that in 1995, it purchased rights to all the original Unix source code from the software firm Novell. In other words, SCO believes that Linux, an OS that can be freely copied and modified by anyone, is illegal. Linux is, SCO says, "an unauthorized derivative of Unix." If SCO's accusations are affirmed in court, the millions of companies and individual users who have increasingly built their lives around Linux over the last decade might have to start scrambling for an alternative or face costly penalties.
But that was not all. During its examination of Linux source code, SCO says it found that it could trace what it believes was Unix code in Linux to one of its longtime partners in the Unix business: IBM. Sontag says that SCO immediately tried to notify IBM of copyright violations in Linux, but "we effectively got no response." So on March 7, SCO filed suit against IBM, alleging "misappropriation of trade secrets, tortious interference, unfair competition and breach of contract." In its complaint, SCO claims that IBM took parts of SCO's Unix code and illegally inserted the code into Linux. Last month, to warn end users about its findings, SCO sent about 1,500 corporate Linux customers a letter saying they could be in legal hot water if they continued to use Linux, which SCO told them was "developed by improper use of proprietary methods and concepts."
SCO's war on Linux has become a hot topic in open-source circles, inspiring heated discussions on developer listservs and almost daily posts on Slashdot. Opinion in these forums, as well as among more dispassionate industry observers, runs about 99 percent anti-SCO. Nobody believes Sontag's story, and it's not hard to see why. SCO's version of the history of Unix and Linux -- as the company has explained it to reporters and as it outlines in its legal complaint against IBM -- comes off as a one-sided and self-serving account. Critics say the company misstates and exaggerates its own contributions to Unix, and SCO has yet to provide a single example of infringing code it says it has found in Linux.
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Industry watchers have attributed SCO's actions to economic desperation. The firm's products have not been doing well recently; the company lost about $25 million last year. SCO now has a stated goal of trying to make money by selling licenses to its Unix intellectual property, and critics see the IBM suit as perhaps only the first of many litigious efforts SCO will attempt. IBM intends to fight the case, but SCO may hope that escalating its rhetoric will make business for Linux companies so difficult that they'll cave in -- either by paying SCO licensing fees or buying the firm out.
The strategy is not entirely illogical, and SCO's efforts have met with some initial success. In mid-May, Microsoft, which considers Linux its main software rival, made headlines when it decided to purchase a Unix license from SCO. The sum Microsoft paid for the license was not disc
You'll find you can't drag the buildings/ships/monsters in the browser who was forced to change their logo at the request of a certain GODZILLA who just happens to appear in the comparison.
The rebate form on Microsoft Money and TaxCut says to send the "barcode" off the box, so I dutifully cut off the barcodes, sent them in and waited... about 6 weeks later I get a letter saying that what they actually wanted wasn't the barcode, but the entire box bottom showing the name of the product, or in other words, I'm outta luck.
If you plan on purchasing MS Money or TaxCut, make sure you substitute the word barcode for entire bottom of the box is you want to have any hope of seeing a rebate.
I think it's worth it to point out that the article stated that there are ethical issues only when a vendor sells a comptuer that is overclocked without alerting the consumer. If this has been a problem, I agree with Intel that it's important to restrict overclocking to protect, not limit, the consumer.
If vendors are only rarely (or never) overclocking a CPU and selling it for for more then I think that while it's probably not a wise business decision by Intel to implement such a technology just to limit consumers, it is Intel's right as the manufacturer and there is nothing ethically wrong with it. There is still competition and the market will speak for itself. No one is forcing you to buy Intel products after all.
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I think it's worth noting for anyone considering hosting a version of DekiWiki that MindTouch/OpenGarden interprets the GPL to mean that any USER of the software should have access to the full source including any modifications you've made (a la Affero GPL).
I fully agree. I run Redhat 9 on my webserver, XP Pro on my laptop and Mac OS X at work. I have tried on more than one occasion to switch from XP to Linux at home on a desktop computer but the sad fact is it's just not ready yet.
Linux won't work with my Canon Printer or Canon Scanner, I can't even get it to see my Sony Digital Camera. I've tried several distros just to see if any of them would work (Lindows, Debian, Mandrake, Redhat 9 and SuSE). I'm sure there's probably some convoluted way of getting everything to work, which for me might be fine, but it's enough to keep me from recommending Linux to others.
That means room for another reality show!!! Yee haw!
No, you're both wrong... of course no one forces them to provide content free of charge and no one is forcing you to visit a site that "tricks" you into downloading an interstitial.
It's capitalism--if you don't like the ads, stop visiting the sites, if you don't mind them, keep going there. If enough people don't like them, the company will change its ways or go out of business. It's that simple. The choice is yours 100%. Personally, I don't visit sites with pop-ups or interstitials, one offense is enough for me to know not to go back to that site, and even if I were paying for bandwidth, after it happened once, I've learned my lesson and can add that site to my hosts file as one to block.
I just moved there from Seattle, WA for a computer job... it's, well, it's not Seattle by any means :)
We're buying a home in the historic district though... maybe that will make it seem nicer? I hope? Please?
I second WebGUI. I've created close to a dozen sites using it--it's 100% customizable, yet works out of the box.
It inlcudes, out of the box, forums, blogging capabilities, photo albums, uploads, forms and a myriad of other features.
Setup isn't bad either--they've created a decent script to get you up and running and one instance of WebGUI can power as many sites as your server can handle.
HIGHLY recommended.
I have Lindows installed on two boxes here at home. It does a great job of getting you up and going with the minimum configuration (video cards, networking etc. etc.)in literally 10 minutes flat then you can use it just as you would a normal Debian install with aptitude etc. etc.
I realize the fact that it's not 100% free isn't popular, but as far as I'm concerned, it's the only way to do Debian.
If their site is any indication of how long the internet will last... I'm afraid I'll have to agree, it's already got one foot in the grave.
Oh great... I can see Jobs wringing his hands already.
"Now how am I going to make the G5's look faster than THIS?"
You're showing your ignorance to basic capitalism.
BS patent or not, Netflix having a patent on this method of DVD rentals kills the competition--whether it comes from a Big Corporation or otherwise. A lack of competition is ALWAYS bad for the consumer. In the end, it's not WalMart who's getting screwed, it's you.
Am I the only one who got the chills when that guy said that he plays 5 hours a day and 8 hours on weekend... that's 41 hours a week! That is a very significant portion of your life spent sitting at the computer doing nothing productive (social or otherwise).
Whether it's TV or playing games, that is just way too much time.
Don't get me wrong, I play a bit of CS here and there too, but wow... I'm rethinking the 45 minutes a day I play after watching that documentary.
Lawyers against Linux
A software company launches a billion-dollar suit against the open-source operating system's biggest backer, IBM -- and only succeeds in underscoring Linux's strength.
- - - - - - - - - - - -
By Farhad Manjoo
June 3, 2003 | If you ask Chris Sontag, a vice president at the SCO Group, how his tiny software firm decided to launch a billion-dollar lawsuit against IBM and became, in the process, the most reviled name in the open-source programming world, he'll tell you that the whole thing started rather innocently. Sontag says that SCO did not go looking for trouble with fans of free software; instead, trouble found SCO. In January the company, which makes most of its money from the sale of Unix and Linux operating system software, embarked on a routine review of its business holdings. And during the review, "we identified some concerns we had in terms of our intellectual property."
Specifically, the company determined that some source code in Linux had a lot in common with code in Unix -- and SCO says that in 1995, it purchased rights to all the original Unix source code from the software firm Novell. In other words, SCO believes that Linux, an OS that can be freely copied and modified by anyone, is illegal. Linux is, SCO says, "an unauthorized derivative of Unix." If SCO's accusations are affirmed in court, the millions of companies and individual users who have increasingly built their lives around Linux over the last decade might have to start scrambling for an alternative or face costly penalties.
But that was not all. During its examination of Linux source code, SCO says it found that it could trace what it believes was Unix code in Linux to one of its longtime partners in the Unix business: IBM. Sontag says that SCO immediately tried to notify IBM of copyright violations in Linux, but "we effectively got no response." So on March 7, SCO filed suit against IBM, alleging "misappropriation of trade secrets, tortious interference, unfair competition and breach of contract." In its complaint, SCO claims that IBM took parts of SCO's Unix code and illegally inserted the code into Linux. Last month, to warn end users about its findings, SCO sent about 1,500 corporate Linux customers a letter saying they could be in legal hot water if they continued to use Linux, which SCO told them was "developed by improper use of proprietary methods and concepts."
SCO's war on Linux has become a hot topic in open-source circles, inspiring heated discussions on developer listservs and almost daily posts on Slashdot. Opinion in these forums, as well as among more dispassionate industry observers, runs about 99 percent anti-SCO. Nobody believes Sontag's story, and it's not hard to see why. SCO's version of the history of Unix and Linux -- as the company has explained it to reporters and as it outlines in its legal complaint against IBM -- comes off as a one-sided and self-serving account. Critics say the company misstates and exaggerates its own contributions to Unix, and SCO has yet to provide a single example of infringing code it says it has found in Linux.
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Industry watchers have attributed SCO's actions to economic desperation. The firm's products have not been doing well recently; the company lost about $25 million last year. SCO now has a stated goal of trying to make money by selling licenses to its Unix intellectual property, and critics see the IBM suit as perhaps only the first of many litigious efforts SCO will attempt. IBM intends to fight the case, but SCO may hope that escalating its rhetoric will make business for Linux companies so difficult that they'll cave in -- either by paying SCO licensing fees or buying the firm out.
The strategy is not entirely illogical, and SCO's efforts have met with some initial success. In mid-May, Microsoft, which considers Linux its main software rival, made headlines when it decided to purchase a Unix license from SCO. The sum Microsoft paid for the license was not disc
The segway has to be started with a 128bit encrypted key.. which might be able to be reproduced, but imagine sitting there trying to force crack it...
Key on. Change code. Key off. Change code. Key on. Key off. Change code. Key on. Repeat 10,000,000 times.
I think what he has is a very large waste of closet space.
Chalk one up for innovation.
You'll find you can't drag the buildings/ships/monsters in the browser who was forced to change their logo at the request of a certain GODZILLA who just happens to appear in the comparison.
Coincidence? I THINK NOT!
The rebate form on Microsoft Money and TaxCut says to send the "barcode" off the box, so I dutifully cut off the barcodes, sent them in and waited... about 6 weeks later I get a letter saying that what they actually wanted wasn't the barcode, but the entire box bottom showing the name of the product, or in other words, I'm outta luck.
If you plan on purchasing MS Money or TaxCut, make sure you substitute the word barcode for entire bottom of the box is you want to have any hope of seeing a rebate.
What? No link to RIAA.com in the article? geez y'all are losing your touch...
Missed a free chance to try to Slashdot their servers again.
Sure, I hope there are more tech jobs in the future, but does anyone still trust these 'economists?'
Shouldn't they have predicted the initial tech fallout? Almost none did. In fact, when have they ever been right?
Maybe I'm just too cynical, but I'll believe this one whan I see it.
I think it's worth it to point out that the article stated that there are ethical issues only when a vendor sells a comptuer that is overclocked without alerting the consumer.
If this has been a problem, I agree with Intel that it's important to restrict overclocking to protect, not limit, the consumer.
If vendors are only rarely (or never) overclocking a CPU and selling it for for more then I think that while it's probably not a wise business decision by Intel to implement such a technology just to limit consumers, it is Intel's right as the manufacturer and there is nothing ethically wrong with it. There is still competition and the market will speak for itself.
No one is forcing you to buy Intel products after all.
He obviously isn't using Mozilla for load testing...
15 comments and already slashdotted.
Not another stroke to Orson Scott Card's ego! If you've ever heard him speak you know what I mean...
I thought it was a couple girls who wrote the script for LOTR... maybe I'm wrong though.
That's only 109 bugs a day! Just goes to show you open source software IS less buggy than commercial!
That means I have to wait 61 hours for it to finish downloading, all the time hoping Windows doesn't crash... what are the chances of THAT happening?
Mine started off downloading about about 20kB/s but has since begun to fluxuate between 0 and 10kB/s, mostly staying around 3kB/s.
It's been at least 15 minutes and it's downloaded 7.23MB and uploaded 24MB.
It's uploaded at 24kB/s the about the entire time, which is very close to my max upload speed.