I use Opera on Linux as well (Opera is the best browser in the world, you know. It's even norwegian), and I identify my browser as Opera. There is a small number of sites that won't work if the useragent is not IE, but it's easily fixed. Just press F12, choose MSIE 5.0, surf the site, and put it back to Opera.
I dunno with version 6.03, but the version I'm using (6.0 Beta 2, and all of versions 5.x, IIRC) identify as MSIE 5 by default. That's a shame, because lots of users, especially novices, never care about useragent-fields. If Opera is to gain popularity, it needs accept from content providers. A browser used by 4% of the user mass isn't that interesting.
I'd hardly call a two week old child a "device cheaply and quickly assembled from strip mall parts". I can agree on the small parts, though. Quickly? Cheaply? Dunno.. (-8
Well, it shouldn't be like that. The following is based on my own guessing, though.
An EULA (End User License Agreement) for a software is a legally binding contract wich you don't have to sign. By the use of the software in question, you agree to the terms of the EULA. It wouldn't surprise me much if the DVDs has some terms stated somewhere on the cover that says "hey! only use this and that equipment to play this! If not, don't play it." And you are free to examine the cover of the DVD before you lay down your money..
Am I glad the DMCA don't apply in Norway? Oh yeah.
Ehm.. You guys aren't very good at norwegian.. (-8 Do you even know where Norway resides?
FYI: The Ø is pronounced as the "er" in fern. The Æ sounds like the "a" in act, and the Å sounds like the "aw" in paw. Neither is used as a substitute for O, A or E, or any other letters. They are used in some words, like "Jævel" and "Øresund", but not in the word moose, or "elg" for that matter.
And no, norwegian and swedish are not the same. Yes, they sound alike (because we can understand either language, just like we understand danish), but you ought to hear the difference.
Well, here in Norway we laugh of american law as if it were jokes. Norwegian laws aren't (or were not) anywhere near the american standards. This logic generally applies in norwegian laws.
But as I've understood from the norwegian indictement, it's not that logic that's illegal. It seems like DVD's are sold with the requirement that it only is to be playbacked on authorised equipment. If DVD's are, then it's kind of an EULA - don't use it/buy it if you don't agree.
In the interesting parts of the indictement, it sates.. (translation at the bottom)
Ved det beskrevne forhold brøt Jon Lech Johansen kopibeskyttelsen på DVD-filmene og skaffet seg og andre adgang til dataene på DVD-platene i ubeskyttet form. Adgangen var uberettiget fordi DVD-filmene var solgt med forutsetning om at brukeren skulle bruke autorisert avspillingsutstyr og respektere kopibeskyttelsen. Tilegnelsen av filmene i ubeskyttet form har voldt skade fordi rettighetshaverne ikke lenger har vern mot uberettiget spredning av filmene.
Roughly translated: Jon Lech Johansen cracked the copy protection on the [his own] DVD-movies and got by this access to the data on the DVD-discs in an unprotected form. The access was illegal because the DVD-movies were sold with the resctrictment that the user used only autorised playback equipment and respected the copyright. The access of the movies in its unprotected form has done damage because the keepers of the copyright no longer has protection against unauthorised distribution of the movies.
I know the english is kind of scetchy right there, but it's not easy to translate norwegian law language on-the-fly..
It seems they're suing him because the DVDs were sold with one clause - that only authorised playback equipment were to be used during playback of the movies. In other words, you cannot access the data on your OWN DISCS by your own means.
Well, that's because the norwegian alphabet has three more letters than the english one. The first O is not an O, but an Ø. Thus, it's ØKOKRIM. It's an abbrivation for Økonomisk Kriminalitet, translated Economical Crimes.
Dunno how your fonts are to display the Ø, though. It's an O with a slash over it.
There's a similar distribution, called Demolinux (http://www.demolinux.org). It's been around for a while. There's no spec list on the site (though I browsed it quickly), but I remember it includes kernel 2.2, KDE 2.x, X on different drivers, a nice boot-up logo, loads of software (like xmms, xine, StarOffice, GIMP, etc, etc). On the News-page it states that the current release even has KDE 3.
I use demolinux for showing off Linux to people, mostly at school. My sysadmin was mighty impressed (-8
I talked to one guy, and he used Demolinux for cracking - he said it was ideal for booting up a computer in a Windows-based corporation, and his traces would be more difficult to find.. (-8
Well, I use FAT. Not for W2K, though. Win98 is the Windows distribution of choice, due to the one program that needs Windows (Adobe Premiere, and no, it does not run under Wine). Win98 is a little less bloated than the NT-based variants, and is easier on drivers, especially for old devices.
It has happend twice that I've lost information from FAT (which is quite buggy) when Windows went bump into the night. But hey, that's what backups are for, right? And I keep all my important stuff on the ext2/3-partitions..
I presume you wrote in irony, here..
Why on earth is this an un-useful contribution to the discussion? I was interested both facts, that this CD neede 96MB RAM to run KDE, and this guy ran his home computer with 48MB RAM. It's a question, and a reply. None were directly off-topic.. So why would he put on an AC mask?
Well,/. gives you opinions and user experience. Some of the posts actually give a rational review of software, with replies and more opinions. It ends up being a discussion on what software would be best for the task at hand.
..you have to defrag harddrives? You have to scan for viruses? That would imply that the other sysadmins are MSCE or something, and should not, according to the website linked to in the story, be appriciated on Friday..
Well, by of course! (Almost) everything in the world is representable with binary code! In the same way as you implemented a binary way of viewing morse code, I can implement a binary way of viewing characters (ASCII, for example). That was not my point - the language (or whatever it is called) of morse is not binary, in the same way as the alphabet isn't binary.
It seemed that morse code was already the most wide-spread binary communication system in use by humans.
Actually, morse code is not binary.. There is at least three stages - dot, dash and pause. There have to be to different length of pauses as well, to indicate end of letter and end of word.
Sorry, I thought Code Red was a Outlook problem. Anyway, my point still stands - the software attacked has design flaws.
The security architecture in Windows kind of reflects the security design on most of Microsoft's products, IMO. There must be a reason for why Microsoft's products is clearly the most attacked product range. *nix has its share of problems, but not as many.
Worms (or viruses or whatever) like Code Red, which attacks IIS, we see all the time in a more or less expanded degree. AFAIK, there has been no worms that has caused as NEAR as much damage on any other platform than Microsoft's.
How about Outlook's great features of executing unkonwn code on its own? How about the great security built into the entire Windows "operating system"?
Hm..
And why did not Red Code attack, say Macintosh or *nix-users? Dunno. It can't have anything to do with software design, could it?
Well, MSNBC is a news source. They're supposed to be kind of objective. I wouldn't like it if Microsoft told them what to write and what not to write.. Reminds me of control over news sources in a European country 'round 1930-1945..
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That's why we need vetc (-8 I joined a discussion on Freshmeat once, where the question of a standarized configuration file format came up. Somebody had the idea of an Virtual etc - vetc. The way I think it should be implemented, is through a modulerized system. You write parsers for every file format supported, and the parsers would show the configuration in, say/proc/vetc.
Example: /etc/passwd would have parsed into /proc/vetc/users/name /proc/vetc/users/grou p / proc/vetc/users/fullname and so on. One could also include settings for other stuff, like user-speficif vim (~/.vimrc): /proc/vetc/users/vim/wordwrap /proc/ ve tc/users/vim/linenumbers and so on, with other applications /proc/vetc/php/magic_qoutes /prov/v et c/samba/workgroup ..you get the idea, I hope.
When reading from or writing to a vetc-file (wich would be "imaginary", just like the other files in/proc), some mechanism would write or read to the actual file, in its own format.
The downside is that one would have to write modules for every supported file format, but it shouldn't be that hard. The format of vetc had to be standarized, of course!
This gives many advanteges. It would be backwards compatible. Software and scripts could easily support unsopperted file formats. Admins would have a much easier job.
Does anybody else think this is a good idea? Feedback, please! (-8
I think the term watermarked means something like digitally sign the audio. I'm not talking about a checksum, but embedding "watermarks" into the audio, unhearable to humans. Computers would know the difference, of course.
I've seen this with images - digitally signed (or "watermarked") images can survive even printing and scanning. Some of the pixels or something of the image is changed just a tad - people can't see it, but computers can.
But then again, I could be wrong.
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GET A LIFE
How about you? (-; I only pasted this. You made it.
I use Opera on Linux as well (Opera is the best browser in the world, you know. It's even norwegian), and I identify my browser as Opera. There is a small number of sites that won't work if the useragent is not IE, but it's easily fixed. Just press F12, choose MSIE 5.0, surf the site, and put it back to Opera. I dunno with version 6.03, but the version I'm using (6.0 Beta 2, and all of versions 5.x, IIRC) identify as MSIE 5 by default. That's a shame, because lots of users, especially novices, never care about useragent-fields. If Opera is to gain popularity, it needs accept from content providers. A browser used by 4% of the user mass isn't that interesting.
Well, to take your comment and sig into consideration, your a bit wrong.
It's not about forgetting that you're falling, it's about forgetting to hit the ground.
If you fall, and during the fall get distracted to a such degree that you forget all about hitting the ground, you fly.
I'd hardly call a two week old child a "device cheaply and quickly assembled from strip mall parts". I can agree on the small parts, though. Quickly? Cheaply? Dunno.. (-8
Well, it shouldn't be like that. The following is based on my own guessing, though.
An EULA (End User License Agreement) for a software is a legally binding contract wich you don't have to sign. By the use of the software in question, you agree to the terms of the EULA. It wouldn't surprise me much if the DVDs has some terms stated somewhere on the cover that says "hey! only use this and that equipment to play this! If not, don't play it." And you are free to examine the cover of the DVD before you lay down your money..
Am I glad the DMCA don't apply in Norway? Oh yeah.
> Yea, but you did a whole hell of a lot better than this site
Thanks (-8
From worldlanguage.com:
The automated translations are not perfect, but they can
give you a general idea of what is being communicated.
Heh. Even when you understand the norwegian words in your quote, it's kind of hard to get what they're talking about..
Good idea. Thanks.
I'm off to bed now. It's 03:38 and there are bugs flying on my screen, since it is the only source of light in the room.
Sorry.
I'll post again in the morning.
And I'll se the Quest for the Holy Grail again, so that next time, I'll get the reference.
Don't think it's easy being a norwegian, trying to live on Slashdot..
Ehm.. You guys aren't very good at norwegian.. (-8 Do you even know where Norway resides?
FYI: The Ø is pronounced as the "er" in fern. The Æ sounds like the "a" in act, and the Å sounds like the "aw" in paw. Neither is used as a substitute for O, A or E, or any other letters. They are used in some words, like "Jævel" and "Øresund", but not in the word moose, or "elg" for that matter.
And no, norwegian and swedish are not the same. Yes, they sound alike (because we can understand either language, just like we understand danish), but you ought to hear the difference.
Do not dare to call norwegians swedish.
Well, here in Norway we laugh of american law as if it were jokes. Norwegian laws aren't (or were not) anywhere near the american standards. This logic generally applies in norwegian laws.
But as I've understood from the norwegian indictement, it's not that logic that's illegal. It seems like DVD's are sold with the requirement that it only is to be playbacked on authorised equipment. If DVD's are, then it's kind of an EULA - don't use it/buy it if you don't agree.
In the interesting parts of the indictement, it sates.. (translation at the bottom)
Ved det beskrevne forhold brøt Jon Lech Johansen kopibeskyttelsen på DVD-filmene og skaffet seg og andre adgang til dataene på DVD-platene i ubeskyttet form. Adgangen var
uberettiget fordi DVD-filmene var solgt med forutsetning om at brukeren skulle
bruke autorisert avspillingsutstyr og respektere kopibeskyttelsen. Tilegnelsen av
filmene i ubeskyttet form har voldt skade fordi rettighetshaverne ikke lenger har vern
mot uberettiget spredning av filmene.
Roughly translated:
Jon Lech Johansen cracked the copy protection on the [his own] DVD-movies and got by this access to the data on the DVD-discs in an unprotected form. The access was illegal because the DVD-movies were sold with the resctrictment that the user used only autorised playback equipment and respected the copyright. The access of the movies in its unprotected form has done damage because the keepers of the copyright no longer has protection against unauthorised distribution of the movies.
I know the english is kind of scetchy right there, but it's not easy to translate norwegian law language on-the-fly..
It seems they're suing him because the DVDs were sold with one clause - that only authorised playback equipment were to be used during playback of the movies. In other words, you cannot access the data on your OWN DISCS by your own means.
Well, that's because the norwegian alphabet has three more letters than the english one. The first O is not an O, but an Ø. Thus, it's ØKOKRIM. It's an abbrivation for Økonomisk Kriminalitet, translated Economical Crimes.
Dunno how your fonts are to display the Ø, though. It's an O with a slash over it.
Isn't that left as an excerice for the reader? Somebody should hack in colour support in aalib.
No, not me. I don't know enough C (-8
There's a similar distribution, called Demolinux (http://www.demolinux.org). It's been around for a while. There's no spec list on the site (though I browsed it quickly), but I remember it includes kernel 2.2, KDE 2.x, X on different drivers, a nice boot-up logo, loads of software (like xmms, xine, StarOffice, GIMP, etc, etc). On the News-page it states that the current release even has KDE 3.
I use demolinux for showing off Linux to people, mostly at school. My sysadmin was mighty impressed (-8
I talked to one guy, and he used Demolinux for cracking - he said it was ideal for booting up a computer in a Windows-based corporation, and his traces would be more difficult to find.. (-8
Well, I use FAT. Not for W2K, though. Win98 is the Windows distribution of choice, due to the one program that needs Windows (Adobe Premiere, and no, it does not run under Wine). Win98 is a little less bloated than the NT-based variants, and is easier on drivers, especially for old devices. It has happend twice that I've lost information from FAT (which is quite buggy) when Windows went bump into the night. But hey, that's what backups are for, right? And I keep all my important stuff on the ext2/3-partitions..
I presume you wrote in irony, here.. Why on earth is this an un-useful contribution to the discussion? I was interested both facts, that this CD neede 96MB RAM to run KDE, and this guy ran his home computer with 48MB RAM. It's a question, and a reply. None were directly off-topic.. So why would he put on an AC mask?
Well, /. gives you opinions and user experience. Some of the posts actually give a rational review of software, with replies and more opinions. It ends up being a discussion on what software would be best for the task at hand.
..you have to defrag harddrives? You have to scan for viruses? That would imply that the other sysadmins are MSCE or something, and should not, according to the website linked to in the story, be appriciated on Friday..
Well, by of course! (Almost) everything in the world is representable with binary code! In the same way as you implemented a binary way of viewing morse code, I can implement a binary way of viewing characters (ASCII, for example). That was not my point - the language (or whatever it is called) of morse is not binary, in the same way as the alphabet isn't binary.
It seemed that morse code was already the most wide-spread binary communication system in use by humans.
Actually, morse code is not binary.. There is at least three stages - dot, dash and pause. There have to be to different length of pauses as well, to indicate end of letter and end of word.
And how about Google from 1998? It's really great!
Sorry, I thought Code Red was a Outlook problem. Anyway, my point still stands - the software attacked has design flaws. The security architecture in Windows kind of reflects the security design on most of Microsoft's products, IMO. There must be a reason for why Microsoft's products is clearly the most attacked product range. *nix has its share of problems, but not as many. Worms (or viruses or whatever) like Code Red, which attacks IIS, we see all the time in a more or less expanded degree. AFAIK, there has been no worms that has caused as NEAR as much damage on any other platform than Microsoft's.
How about Outlook's great features of executing unkonwn code on its own? How about the great security built into the entire Windows "operating system"?
Hm..
And why did not Red Code attack, say Macintosh or *nix-users? Dunno. It can't have anything to do with software design, could it?
Well, MSNBC is a news source. They're supposed to be kind of objective. I wouldn't like it if Microsoft told them what to write and what not to write.. Reminds me of control over news sources in a European country 'round 1930-1945..
That's why we need vetc (-8 I joined a discussion on Freshmeat once, where the question of a standarized configuration file format came up. Somebody had the idea of an Virtual etc - vetc. The way I think it should be implemented, is through a modulerized system. You write parsers for every file format supported, and the parsers would show the configuration in, say /proc/vetc.
u p/ ve tc/users/vim/linenumbersv et c/samba/workgroup
/proc), some mechanism would write or read to the actual file, in its own format.
Example:
/etc/passwd would have parsed into
/proc/vetc/users/name
/proc/vetc/users/gro
/ proc/vetc/users/fullname
and so on. One could also include settings for other stuff, like user-speficif vim (~/.vimrc):
/proc/vetc/users/vim/wordwrap
/proc
and so on, with other applications
/proc/vetc/php/magic_qoutes
/prov/
..you get the idea, I hope.
When reading from or writing to a vetc-file (wich would be "imaginary", just like the other files in
The downside is that one would have to write modules for every supported file format, but it shouldn't be that hard. The format of vetc had to be standarized, of course!
This gives many advanteges. It would be backwards compatible. Software and scripts could easily support unsopperted file formats. Admins would have a much easier job.
Does anybody else think this is a good idea? Feedback, please! (-8
I think the term watermarked means something like digitally sign the audio. I'm not talking about a checksum, but embedding "watermarks" into the audio, unhearable to humans. Computers would know the difference, of course. I've seen this with images - digitally signed (or "watermarked") images can survive even printing and scanning. Some of the pixels or something of the image is changed just a tad - people can't see it, but computers can. But then again, I could be wrong.