I prefer "tick" (and the respective back-tick) to "single quote". Fewer syllables. Also you can't differentiate ' from ` if you say single quote, because they are both single quotes. And back- single-quote sounds bad, but back-tick doesn't.
Based on your posting, I can tell that you are truly a gifted person with a special talent for expressive language. Have you considered a career in writing? Or will that not fit with your busy schedule cleaning toilets?
RPM packages can't be configured interactively. They
won't ask you if you want to keep the current version of a configuration file, install a new version, or
compare the two versions. They won't stop services before updating and restart them afterwards.
RPM is fine. I think anyone with half a brain can read a readme file and be told to run a configure script or something (post-install).
And running/etc/rc.d/init.d/servicename stop is NOT THAT HARD! People would do well to figure out how their linux system works!!
And you can compare versions of config files yourself for crying out loud.
I think RPM is in fact overkill for what it does, and there's no need to bloat it up and make it even MORE brain-dead friendly!!
Personally this move towards dumbing down computers (it all started with the damn MAC, then windows... and now it's happening to Unix) makes me sick. I don't like every tom dick and harry out there with 1/5 of a brain reaping the benefits of our hard work as developers and not appreciating what goes into making it all work so smoothly. Personally I think the more we make them suffer, the more they will appreciate us as developers!!
Also, I think that one shouldn't underestimate the intelligence and capabilities of users. I think we should look to challenging our users and educating them rather than dumbing down everything to the point where it is no longer fun. Detail is a good thing!
Well, you may be right.. people in academics and research really think that languages like scheme and ml are underused despite their power and expressiveness. Take a look at the kernighan interview:
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/ ~mihaib/kernighan-interview/index.html
Man reading this interview I am utterly inspired by Brian Kernighan. He has seen so much stuff with his very own eyes. For god sakes, he KNOWS the guy that wrote vi!!
God, he was at the center of everything, and still is quite in touch with the state of computer science and computing today. As cheesy as this sounds: he is my idol!!
I am also quite in awe of the whole research environment over there at Lucent. I really wish I could get a shot at working there. I sort of guess I will be doomed to be a web programmer for ever...:(
How old are you? 19? Are you studying cs? I bet you are a 19-year-old studying cs who just learned scheme. Every 19-year-old-learning-cs-who-just-picked-up-scheme (myself included) in the WORLD at one point or another convinces himself that scheme is the world's best computer language.
At some point though, the novelty of it wears off and you realize you can't get anything really useful done in it and you move on to something will powerful APIs and something natively supported by your OS (such as C).
The only reason people ever compile for i386 nowadays is in order to ensure maximum compatibility with the Lowest Common Denominator.
Really I think if you have the time, always download the sources and compile it yourself on the newest version of gcc that supports i686 optimizations.
Ok, despite all of its criticisms, mandrake is an inspirational distribution. Its installer is second to none, and the fact that they do their best to include the latest packages is really convenient.
I hate people that criticize mandrake for being cheesy but meanwhile end up using something equally cheesy but of LOWER QUALITY like redhat.
If we had the time, we would all build our own distribution.. but if we can't afford to do so time-wise.. I really think Mandrake is second-to-none.
Also, the fact that mandrake is compiled for pentiums is also pretty neat and convenient.
What low level functions? The ONLY services DOS provided were filesystem services, and they were totally circumvented by said 32-bit file access code.
DOS is pretty much out of hte picture in the Windows 3.1 Enhanced mode environment, no?
I really don't agree with your idea that: It has, for a long time, been thought of for strictly business use...Only recently has it come into the light as a desktop OS
Linux started out mainly as a hobbyist OS. It was very much the desktop OS for the longest time. Its use in business is fairly recent.
But perhaps it is not IDIOT-FRIENDLY enough for you my friend. Don't worry though.. with stuff like KDE and its ultra-sheltered gui config tools, even you should have no trouble.
You're right man, amen to that! The mind is a wonderful thing.
To address some of the things you said--I think the ability to reason critically.. to draw analogies between similar things and also to delineate and distinguish the differences between things that are superficially similar is a big part of understanding any complex and/or interrelated system such as a piece of software. It's also a big part of being a good programmer.
Yes, you're missing something. Memory is volatile. These things aren't.
You wouldn't run a database and use a ramdisk for table storage space.... even though it would be orders of magnitude faster than urunning it on a hard disk.. simply because you can't afford to lose the data.
Uhh, I'll take your usage of the term VM to mean Swap Files.. as you can't possibly be proposing an end to memory translation hardware....
Because.. what do you do, in the odd chance, that you run out of memory? It's bound to happen. Even if you have 2 gigs of ram.. you may run out of memory (hell on my 512 meg machine I frequently have more than 512 megs of processes running). If you turn off a swap file then you're basically fucked... as your os will not be able to allocate memory for processes and who knows what type of unexpected exceptions will be generated. Turning off swap files is dumb.
Hey they have a runaway link on that page. I don't think I have ever seen a link that long..
Anyway, it's great that this is happening. I hope M$ suffers greatly because of this. Although I know they won't. Damn it. I really wish we could all get at them bad.
Anyway, I also hope developers come out with a patch to kerberos to make unix versions capable of talking to the M$ versions.
Well, you'd need more than 2 planes for that type of thing. Seriously I don't think it will ever get that evolved. If anything games will just be more immersive, but I don't think that any practical differences in the way you play them (ie physically moving around the monitor to look around corners in a FPS) will ever come to pass with 3d monitors. Maybe with VR units.. but not 3d monitors.
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a penguin with rabbit ears is still a penguin. Microsoft has been producing a whole zoo instead.
Would take the cake as the best counter-ad!!
You are real smart-like. Is that so you can IRC as root?
Plan9 is not unix!
I love that cooperative "multitasking".
Hey man I'm a unix hack.. give me a job!
I prefer "tick" (and the respective back-tick) to "single quote". Fewer syllables. Also you can't differentiate ' from ` if you say single quote, because they are both single quotes. And back- single-quote sounds bad, but back-tick doesn't.
Based on your posting, I can tell that you are truly a gifted person with a special talent for expressive language. Have you considered a career in writing? Or will that not fit with your busy schedule cleaning toilets?
(So how do you like attitude directed at you, you moron?)
Perl is usually in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin. I don't think anyone in their right mind would put it in /usr/sbin.
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RPM is fine. I think anyone with half a brain can read a readme file and be told to run a configure script or something (post-install).
And running /etc/rc.d/init.d/servicename stop is NOT THAT HARD! People would do well to figure out how their linux system works!!
And you can compare versions of config files yourself for crying out loud.
I think RPM is in fact overkill for what it does, and there's no need to bloat it up and make it even MORE brain-dead friendly!!
Personally this move towards dumbing down computers (it all started with the damn MAC, then windows... and now it's happening to Unix) makes me sick. I don't like every tom dick and harry out there with 1/5 of a brain reaping the benefits of our hard work as developers and not appreciating what goes into making it all work so smoothly. Personally I think the more we make them suffer, the more they will appreciate us as developers!!
Also, I think that one shouldn't underestimate the intelligence and capabilities of users. I think we should look to challenging our users and educating them rather than dumbing down everything to the point where it is no longer fun. Detail is a good thing!
Well, you may be right.. people in academics and research really think that languages like scheme and ml are underused despite their power and expressiveness. Take a look at the kernighan interview: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/ ~mihaib/kernighan-interview/index.html
God, he was at the center of everything, and still is quite in touch with the state of computer science and computing today. As cheesy as this sounds: he is my idol!!
I am also quite in awe of the whole research environment over there at Lucent. I really wish I could get a shot at working there. I sort of guess I will be doomed to be a web programmer for ever... :(
At some point though, the novelty of it wears off and you realize you can't get anything really useful done in it and you move on to something will powerful APIs and something natively supported by your OS (such as C).
Really I think if you have the time, always download the sources and compile it yourself on the newest version of gcc that supports i686 optimizations.
If we had the time, we would all build our own distribution.. but if we can't afford to do so time-wise.. I really think Mandrake is second-to-none.
Also, the fact that mandrake is compiled for pentiums is also pretty neat and convenient.
It's all about convenience i say!!
Yeah man.. all you need to do to convince people of your insanity is to put it up on a CHART.
What low level functions? The ONLY services DOS provided were filesystem services, and they were totally circumvented by said 32-bit file access code. DOS is pretty much out of hte picture in the Windows 3.1 Enhanced mode environment, no?
I really don't agree with your idea that: It has, for a long time, been thought of for strictly business use...Only recently has it come into the light as a desktop OS Linux started out mainly as a hobbyist OS. It was very much the desktop OS for the longest time. Its use in business is fairly recent.
But perhaps it is not IDIOT-FRIENDLY enough for you my friend. Don't worry though.. with stuff like KDE and its ultra-sheltered gui config tools, even you should have no trouble.
To address some of the things you said--I think the ability to reason critically.. to draw analogies between similar things and also to delineate and distinguish the differences between things that are superficially similar is a big part of understanding any complex and/or interrelated system such as a piece of software. It's also a big part of being a good programmer.
You wouldn't run a database and use a ramdisk for table storage space.... even though it would be orders of magnitude faster than urunning it on a hard disk.. simply because you can't afford to lose the data.
Because.. what do you do, in the odd chance, that you run out of memory? It's bound to happen. Even if you have 2 gigs of ram.. you may run out of memory (hell on my 512 meg machine I frequently have more than 512 megs of processes running). If you turn off a swap file then you're basically fucked... as your os will not be able to allocate memory for processes and who knows what type of unexpected exceptions will be generated. Turning off swap files is dumb.
What are you talking about?!?! Today's hard drives are a few orders of magnitude faster than the "personal network media" that you speak of, buddy.
Anyway, it's great that this is happening. I hope M$ suffers greatly because of this. Although I know they won't. Damn it. I really wish we could all get at them bad.
Anyway, I also hope developers come out with a patch to kerberos to make unix versions capable of talking to the M$ versions.
Well, you'd need more than 2 planes for that type of thing. Seriously I don't think it will ever get that evolved. If anything games will just be more immersive, but I don't think that any practical differences in the way you play them (ie physically moving around the monitor to look around corners in a FPS) will ever come to pass with 3d monitors. Maybe with VR units.. but not 3d monitors.