So much has already gone into effort to stop "Software Patents" in Europe but to no avail. Perhaps the reason is the Europe is taking the better safe than sorry approach.
Considering the US patent office grants patents and anything from the wheel to swinging sideways on a swing, dropping their responsibility of granting only valid patents, while letting the court system (that finds MS guilty of Federal crimes but does not punish them)..... sort it out at the aditional expense of the concerned parties..
The better safe then sorry approach is one of allowing software patents, knowing full well they may very well be wrong morallly and technically, the unanswered question means to do it and sort it out or correct it later, when "proof" is supplied one way or the other about the validity of software patents.
There is more to the issue than whether or not software patents are valid in nature, there is the length of time these man made laws have defined, and been redefinedm and again lengthened...
It all seems to come down to money, whos got the most to win any battle, with absolutely no concern to ever stop the war ---- its to profitable for teh legal system making the laws up as they go along.
As I said above, this Europe debate on software patents has been going on for some time, and even I have commented to those of concern and organized effort to fight such software patents. search my input and who to.
Perhaps there can be some inspiration to be found in the THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE as to Learning how to say NO to the Law Makers and Backers.
People do things for reasons. Remove the reasons and they won't do something based on a reason that doesn't exist (there are exceptions to all the rules and mindless people wondering around to insure this).
Often the defacement of a site is like a graffiti (sp?) paint spray can artist. They are just taging a spot saying they were there. Meaning the results are more often then not just pointing out a weakness in the site that needs to be fixed.
As to security issues of OSs, again, give someone reason to break in and they will. Now don't we all know that there is plenty of reason to give MS grief and that MS have actually earned the receipt of such grief?
Consider the DoS attack on SCO. Would it have ever happened had not SCO earned it?
You want security from internet invasion? The only sure way is to not be connected to the internet. For what we make we can break and locks are only for honest people.
There is the question of GPL source files having been accessable to someone who cracked into the FSF system and over a period of months before being detected. But it appears there was no damage done, via pre-existing check-sums of the files.
The point is - if you could crack a site, would you really want to? And if so, what sites would you want to crack and why?
... a class action suit should be made against SCO where the damages requested to be that of making SCOs code base GPL. Once and for all putting Unix questions about ownership to rest.
if an expolit is found and patched, are we supposed to feel our voting is safe?
Do you feel safer every time MS patches their stuff with claims of fixing an exploit? Or how many patches does it take to make the public feel safe?
If a politician or political group wanted to exploit such a system, wouldn't they consider hiring someone familiar with cracking such a system? How would you advertise for such a job and even test the applicants?
If I vote electronicly, does that mean I can also participate in a jury electronicly?
I'm sure I can come up with all sorts of other perspectives but doesn't it all come down to simply controlling what the media reports anyway, and that it can eliminate or bypass any electronic counting system? (i.e. with all the media talking down on the Dixie Chicks, how is it that they are the top selling country band? Or how SCO has been so much in the Media lately about stupid stuff... who should believe the media anyway, no matter what the truth is.)
Point being, what verification do I as a voter get?
A: NONE!
I am expected to believe what someone else tells me the results of an election is.
Don't politicians as a profession lie? Especially in campagining for election? And haven't past elected politicians been found to lie to the public?
Doesn't this really all add up to cheating is OK so long as you do not get caught, or can't talk you way out of it?
There was a delay in responding to the olympic park bombing in 1996. The delay was caused by the program of the then new 911 system. It would not allow an assignment of a call to an officer(s) without inputting a valid address. Problem was, nobody thought to give the park an address, though everyone knew where it was, cept the 911 computer program. The call finally went out over old style walkie talkie to those officers who still had such a device. The delay time was perhaps long enough not to have saved those who died.
Point is, humans are smarter than programs. What we make we can break.... Electronic voting is just another place to manipulate the voting process. Another tool to perhaps convince people to vote for someone that is more likely to do something the voter would not approve of anyway.
But if such a systemn could be validated, then I think it could be used for more than just voting a politician into office, but could also be used to handle the day to day decissions of what politicans and their company do..... like slashdot moderation.... but better, more accurate and perhaps more verifiable to the adverage joe..
"It seems that once Microsoft starts tracking the behavior of individuals, you're asking for trouble. What about privacy? I think it's a very important thing. And we have build NetScan to protect what I think are legitimate claims for privacy. Like a Net spider, NetScan takes publicly accessible documents off the Internet, and it respects metadata that says "Leave me alone!" There is the robots.txt file that says, "You can look at this but not that." With Usenet there is one that says "Leave my messages alone," and we respect that. We will not store your messages if you put that in them."
Given how much MS lies.....
if you do these things mentioned above you will become special attention to MS........
For certainly MS inhouse will be interested in what others don't want them to be interested in....
The repression of unfair competition is directed against acts or practices, in the course of trade or business, that are contrary to honest practices, including, in particular:
* acts which may cause confusion with the products or services, or the industrial or commercial activities, of an enterprise;
* false allegations which may discredit the products or services, or the industrial or commercial activities, of an enterprise;
* indications or allegations which may mislead the public, in particular as to the manufacturing process of a product or as to the quality, quantity or other characteristics of products or services;
* acts in respect of unlawful acquisition, disclosure or use of trade secrets;
* acts causing a dilution or other damage to the distinctive power of another's mark or taking undue advantage of the goodwill or reputation of another's enterprise.
Protection of industrial property is not an end in itself: it is a means to encourage creative activity, industrialization, investment and honest trade. All this is designed to contribute to more safety and comfort, less poverty and more beauty, in the lives of men.
Easy come, easy go! For those that got in early and as such were able to get out in time, needed to put their gains somewhere. Dotcoms were certainly a popular place to do so.
Those who didn't get in soon enough to get out in time resulted in our Enrons and Worldcoms...
And the negative result on S.E. Asia....
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction..... Here it was likely a second and successful attack on the WTC in addition to targets of military intelligence and political control... leading up to...... well if you don't know you must be living under a rock.. Cept for maybe the the part of where MS got off of punishment of federal criminal guilty findings in what appears to be in exchange for training the government how to lie and mislead the public via media (media that was attacked and threatened with anthrax produced by the US military, in the states)
Soooo, this money that the supposed tech savy have to lobby government..... It's blood money...
Interesting how in the bigger picture it certanly seems that deception begets deception in it's self supported dependancy.
Why is SCO being allowed to continue to promote down Linux and the GPL........ without evidence?
With all this in mind, maybe I should read the article...... but even then, should I believe it?
The space suit and flashlight would interfer with the perfectly reflective nature of the sphere where size (relative to the sphere), position and movement of the space suit and flashlight beam factors would result in any number of variations. Even the color of the space suit and flashlight will have an influence on the effect and affect.
To some extent this can be calculated by using ray tracing animation software. But it should be noted that additional calculations would need to be taken into account as various colors and their absortion or reflection of light (re: the space suit and flashlight) would cause or influence movement of objects inside sphere.
Light is energy and it's reflection/absortion is a conversion of energy into movement.
If a spark of light happen in such a sphere containing no objects to interfer, who would be able to witness what happens?
:) I think there are even more obvious issues as to why the rod would not work, like the fact as galaxies spin the location of the end of the rod would as well be moving through galaxies it would exist in and passing thru... bound to be hit by something...
But the point I was making was in regards to aproaching a problem or situation from a different perspecitve and finding a much easier solution.
If two objects are traveling at near the speed of light, but in opposite directions and you were on one of them as the other was approaching in on a collision course, would you see it comming? Or would it look like a black hole?
The point of the IP laws was to help provide incentive to innovate and there were limitation on just how long those monopolistic rights were to be enforceable.
Today, though the advancement of technology means the shorter the time span of technology is useful, the IP monopolistic rights have been extended. Where the only way to extract value after initial integration is to take the laws to their extream and to a degree never intended by the founders.
At the heart of the arguement is not SCO vs. the world but IP laws applied today vs. their original intent.
The simplist statement of original intent is that "of benefit to society"
The repression of unfair competition is directed against acts or practices, in the course of trade or business, that are contrary to honest practices, including, in particular:
* acts which may cause confusion with the products or services, or the industrial or commercial activities, of an enterprise;
* false allegations which may discredit the products or services, or the industrial or commercial activities, of an enterprise;
* indications or allegations which may mislead the public, in particular as to the manufacturing process of a product or as to the quality, quantity or other characteristics of products or services;
* acts in respect of unlawful acquisition, disclosure or use of trade secrets;
* acts causing a dilution or other damage to the distinctive power of another's mark or taking undue advantage of the goodwill or reputation of another's enterprise.
Protection of industrial property is not an end in itself: it is a means to encourage creative activity, industrialization, investment and honest trade. All this is designed to contribute to more safety and comfort, less poverty and more beauty, in the lives of men. "
Seems to me that GNU and GNU/Linux reaches that last sentence far better than SCO can possible achieve in their lawsuit and claims against Linux and the world.
Maybe SCO thinks the last word "men" is exclusively them.
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Reading the article make me recall how I believe that the cooling of some elements to achieve superconductivity is in reality just the syncing of the relative atomic speed of the elements involved.
This spin issue seems to suggest syncing as well, but without the concerns of tempature constraints below room tempature.
Communication faster than teh speed of light that is very slow.
In theory you take a rod that goes from one galaxy to a distant galaxy many many lighyt years away. With a slight movement on one end of the rod, ina back and forth movement, the other end moves, effectively allowing communication based upon movement. Movement that is far slower than the speed of light but able to communicate to distances beyond the limitation of the speed of light.
Of course that is a simple theory only to communicate the concept of accomplishing something in a different way that is not possible on other ways. Like tryingto do advanced math using roman numerals instead of the decimal system that includes the zero place holder.
So does this spin thing make it possible to achieve antigravity or super conductivity in common use? If so, then aren't there other human resistance factors to deal with that may be more difficult and non-natural to have to deal with and overcome?
It took 300 years for the Hindu-Arabic decimal system to propogate thru the constraints of the roman numeral system supporters, regardless of the improvement in ease of math that was made possible, not to mention the technology that needed it, to be come a reality (computers).
maybe the whole shebang is incorrect. Like trying to do advanced math using roman numerals.
Maybe the route to go is to remove complexity that is there to....... if you can't dazzel them with brilliance then baffel them with bull Shit....
There is just a hand full of repetitive concepts that can be used to enlighten not only the users but tech people as well. Like switching to the decimal system including the use of the zero place holder, that suddenly makes the advanced math of roman numeral system childs play under the decimal system.
Perhaps the place to start is in what we call "computers" and lets start calling them what they really are.... "automation machines" used for taking complexity (made up of simpler things) and making it easy for the user to use and reuse..... so that the user too can automate what the do...
BUT that would require providing the user with the simple tools to enable them to do so, such that they would far more easily come to understand computers and inturn enable them to find a common vocabulary and understanding in talking with Tech people, if they would even then need to. Like the difference that the zero place holder made in simplifying math...
Between the proprietary commercial IP bitch slapping of keep the consumer in the dark, companies like MS and their de-evolved dos-shell.... and Free Software, Open Source, Open Software....
Where do you think such user friendly changes will more likely happen?
I believe that AI is in general just a matter of automating enough to create the by-product illusion of what the public preceive as "Artificial Intelligence". And yes I do believe the project can be used in such a manner to enable automation of external parts or applications that contribute to such an illusion.
Slashdot Mirror
So much has already gone into effort to stop "Software Patents" in Europe but to no avail. Perhaps the reason is the Europe is taking the better safe than sorry approach.
Considering the US patent office grants patents and anything from the wheel to swinging sideways on a swing, dropping their responsibility of granting only valid patents, while letting the court system (that finds MS guilty of Federal crimes but does not punish them)..... sort it out at the aditional expense of the concerned parties..
The better safe then sorry approach is one of allowing software patents, knowing full well they may very well be wrong morallly and technically, the unanswered question means to do it and sort it out or correct it later, when "proof" is supplied one way or the other about the validity of software patents.
There is more to the issue than whether or not software patents are valid in nature, there is the length of time these man made laws have defined, and been redefinedm and again lengthened...
It all seems to come down to money, whos got the most to win any battle, with absolutely no concern to ever stop the war ---- its to profitable for teh legal system making the laws up as they go along.
As I said above, this Europe debate on software patents has been going on for some time, and even I have commented to those of concern and organized effort to fight such software patents. search my input and who to.
Perhaps there can be some inspiration to be found in the THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE as to Learning how to say NO to the Law Makers and Backers.
"No plans to sue Linux companies"
Translated:
means tomorrows headlines will read "SCO is sueing Linux Companies"
It's like...... beyond being predictable but rathetr an expectation.
People do things for reasons. Remove the reasons and they won't do something based on a reason that doesn't exist (there are exceptions to all the rules and mindless people wondering around to insure this).
Often the defacement of a site is like a graffiti (sp?) paint spray can artist. They are just taging a spot saying they were there. Meaning the results are more often then not just pointing out a weakness in the site that needs to be fixed.
As to security issues of OSs, again, give someone reason to break in and they will. Now don't we all know that there is plenty of reason to give MS grief and that MS have actually earned the receipt of such grief?
Consider the DoS attack on SCO. Would it have ever happened had not SCO earned it?
You want security from internet invasion? The only sure way is to not be connected to the internet. For what we make we can break and locks are only for honest people.
There is the question of GPL source files having been accessable to someone who cracked into the FSF system and over a period of months before being detected. But it appears there was no damage done, via pre-existing check-sums of the files.
The point is - if you could crack a site, would you really want to? And if so, what sites would you want to crack and why?
That we can now legally view our legally purchased DVDs on a linux GPL pure box now?
If not then where is consumer choice?
... a class action suit should be made against SCO where the damages requested to be that of making SCOs code base GPL. Once and for all putting Unix questions about ownership to rest.
if an expolit is found and patched, are we supposed to feel our voting is safe?
Do you feel safer every time MS patches their stuff with claims of fixing an exploit? Or how many patches does it take to make the public feel safe?
If a politician or political group wanted to exploit such a system, wouldn't they consider hiring someone familiar with cracking such a system? How would you advertise for such a job and even test the applicants?
If I vote electronicly, does that mean I can also participate in a jury electronicly?
I'm sure I can come up with all sorts of other perspectives but doesn't it all come down to simply controlling what the media reports anyway, and that it can eliminate or bypass any electronic counting system? (i.e. with all the media talking down on the Dixie Chicks, how is it that they are the top selling country band? Or how SCO has been so much in the Media lately about stupid stuff... who should believe the media anyway, no matter what the truth is.)
Point being, what verification do I as a voter get?
A: NONE!
I am expected to believe what someone else tells me the results of an election is.
Don't politicians as a profession lie? Especially in campagining for election? And haven't past elected politicians been found to lie to the public?
Doesn't this really all add up to cheating is OK so long as you do not get caught, or can't talk you way out of it?
There was a delay in responding to the olympic park bombing in 1996. The delay was caused by the program of the then new 911 system. It would not allow an assignment of a call to an officer(s) without inputting a valid address. Problem was, nobody thought to give the park an address, though everyone knew where it was, cept the 911 computer program. The call finally went out over old style walkie talkie to those officers who still had such a device. The delay time was perhaps long enough not to have saved those who died.
Point is, humans are smarter than programs. What we make we can break.... Electronic voting is just another place to manipulate the voting process. Another tool to perhaps convince people to vote for someone that is more likely to do something the voter would not approve of anyway.
But if such a systemn could be validated, then I think it could be used for more than just voting a politician into office, but could also be used to handle the day to day decissions of what politicans and their company do..... like slashdot moderation.... but better, more accurate and perhaps more verifiable to the adverage joe..
"It seems that once Microsoft starts tracking the behavior of individuals, you're asking for trouble. What about privacy?
........
I think it's a very important thing. And we have build NetScan to protect what I think are legitimate claims for privacy. Like a Net spider, NetScan takes publicly accessible documents off the Internet, and it respects metadata that says "Leave me alone!" There is the robots.txt file that says, "You can look at this but not that." With Usenet there is one that says "Leave my messages alone," and we respect that. We will not store your messages if you put that in them."
Given how much MS lies.....
if you do these things mentioned above you will become special attention to MS
For certainly MS inhouse will be interested in what others don't want them to be interested in....
It is the exceptions and handling them that makes us uniqure.
But then there is this.... which means...
Resistance is Futile, you will be assimilated into the "norm" and prevented from doing anything outside of the percalculated norm.
Unfair Competition
The repression of unfair competition is directed against acts or practices, in the course of trade or business, that are contrary to honest practices, including, in particular:
* acts which may cause confusion with the products or services, or the industrial or commercial activities, of an enterprise;
* false allegations which may discredit the products or services, or the industrial or commercial activities, of an enterprise;
* indications or allegations which may mislead the public, in particular as to the manufacturing process of a product or as to the quality, quantity or other characteristics of products or services;
* acts in respect of unlawful acquisition, disclosure or use of trade secrets;
* acts causing a dilution or other damage to the distinctive power of another's mark or taking undue advantage of the goodwill or reputation of another's enterprise.
Protection of industrial property is not an end in itself: it is a means to encourage creative activity, industrialization, investment and honest trade. All this is designed to contribute to more safety and comfort, less poverty and more beauty, in the lives of men.
Those in the US north east and south east Canada.....
Maybe someone just turned off the water?
Who turned of the water?
Where can you access this music service?
Why else is MS involved?
Considering all the "Funny" mod'in that happened..... on a more serious note.
If it can be created..... someone will do it....
Maybe the bible about the creature of the beast is more literal...
Can't the RIAA, or who ever is better tied in, do this?
What exactly is it that Apple and MS are needed and not just cut out of the deal with reduced cost to the customers?
Follow the money trail!!! backwards....
...... well if you don't know you must be living under a rock.. Cept for maybe the the part of where MS got off of punishment of federal criminal guilty findings in what appears to be in exchange for training the government how to lie and mislead the public via media (media that was attacked and threatened with anthrax produced by the US military, in the states)
........ without evidence?
Trillion Dollar Bet
Easy come, easy go! For those that got in early and as such were able to get out in time, needed to put their gains somewhere. Dotcoms were certainly a popular place to do so.
Those who didn't get in soon enough to get out in time resulted in our Enrons and Worldcoms...
And the negative result on S.E. Asia....
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction..... Here it was likely a second and successful attack on the WTC in addition to targets of military intelligence and political control... leading up to
Soooo, this money that the supposed tech savy have to lobby government..... It's blood money...
Interesting how in the bigger picture it certanly seems that deception begets deception in it's self supported dependancy.
Why is SCO being allowed to continue to promote down Linux and the GPL
With all this in mind, maybe I should read the article...... but even then, should I believe it?
The space suit and flashlight would interfer with the perfectly reflective nature of the sphere where size (relative to the sphere), position and movement of the space suit and flashlight beam factors would result in any number of variations. Even the color of the space suit and flashlight will have an influence on the effect and affect.
To some extent this can be calculated by using ray tracing animation software. But it should be noted that additional calculations would need to be taken into account as various colors and their absortion or reflection of light (re: the space suit and flashlight) would cause or influence movement of objects inside sphere.
Light is energy and it's reflection/absortion is a conversion of energy into movement.
If a spark of light happen in such a sphere containing no objects to interfer, who would be able to witness what happens?
:) I think there are even more obvious issues as to why the rod would not work, like the fact as galaxies spin the location of the end of the rod would as well be moving through galaxies it would exist in and passing thru... bound to be hit by something...
But the point I was making was in regards to aproaching a problem or situation from a different perspecitve and finding a much easier solution.
If two objects are traveling at near the speed of light, but in opposite directions and you were on one of them as the other was approaching in on a collision course, would you see it comming? Or would it look like a black hole?
The point of the IP laws was to help provide incentive to innovate and there were limitation on just how long those monopolistic rights were to be enforceable.
...
Today, though the advancement of technology means the shorter the time span of technology is useful, the IP monopolistic rights have been extended. Where the only way to extract value after initial integration is to take the laws to their extream and to a degree never intended by the founders.
At the heart of the arguement is not SCO vs. the world but IP laws applied today vs. their original intent.
The simplist statement of original intent is that "of benefit to society"
And not to be used in a manner of
"Unfair Competition
The repression of unfair competition is directed against acts or practices, in the course of trade or business, that are contrary to honest practices, including, in particular:
* acts which may cause confusion with the products or services, or the industrial or commercial activities, of an enterprise;
* false allegations which may discredit the products or services, or the industrial or commercial activities, of an enterprise;
* indications or allegations which may mislead the public, in particular as to the manufacturing process of a product or as to the quality, quantity or other characteristics of products or services;
* acts in respect of unlawful acquisition, disclosure or use of trade secrets;
* acts causing a dilution or other damage to the distinctive power of another's mark or taking undue advantage of the goodwill or reputation of another's enterprise.
Protection of industrial property is not an end in itself: it is a means to encourage creative activity, industrialization, investment and honest trade. All this is designed to contribute to more safety and comfort, less poverty and more beauty, in the lives of men.
"
Seems to me that GNU and GNU/Linux reaches that last sentence far better than SCO can possible achieve in their lawsuit and claims against Linux and the world.
Maybe SCO thinks the last word "men" is exclusively them.
Reading the article make me recall how I believe that the cooling of some elements to achieve superconductivity is in reality just the syncing of the relative atomic speed of the elements involved.
This spin issue seems to suggest syncing as well, but without the concerns of tempature constraints below room tempature.
Communication faster than teh speed of light that is very slow.
In theory you take a rod that goes from one galaxy to a distant galaxy many many lighyt years away. With a slight movement on one end of the rod, ina back and forth movement, the other end moves, effectively allowing communication based upon movement. Movement that is far slower than the speed of light but able to communicate to distances beyond the limitation of the speed of light.
Of course that is a simple theory only to communicate the concept of accomplishing something in a different way that is not possible on other ways. Like tryingto do advanced math using roman numerals instead of the decimal system that includes the zero place holder.
So does this spin thing make it possible to achieve antigravity or super conductivity in common use? If so, then aren't there other human resistance factors to deal with that may be more difficult and non-natural to have to deal with and overcome?
It took 300 years for the Hindu-Arabic decimal system to propogate thru the constraints of the roman numeral system supporters, regardless of the improvement in ease of math that was made possible, not to mention the technology that needed it, to be come a reality (computers).
maybe the whole shebang is incorrect. Like trying to do advanced math using roman numerals.
....... if you can't dazzel them with brilliance then baffel them with bull Shit....
Maybe the route to go is to remove complexity that is there to
There is just a hand full of repetitive concepts that can be used to enlighten not only the users but tech people as well. Like switching to the decimal system including the use of the zero place holder, that suddenly makes the advanced math of roman numeral system childs play under the decimal system.
Perhaps the place to start is in what we call "computers" and lets start calling them what they really are.... "automation machines" used for taking complexity (made up of simpler things) and making it easy for the user to use and reuse..... so that the user too can automate what the do...
BUT that would require providing the user with the simple tools to enable them to do so, such that they would far more easily come to understand computers and inturn enable them to find a common vocabulary and understanding in talking with Tech people, if they would even then need to. Like the difference that the zero place holder made in simplifying math...
Between the proprietary commercial IP bitch slapping of keep the consumer in the dark, companies like MS and their de-evolved dos-shell.... and Free Software, Open Source, Open Software....
Where do you think such user friendly changes will more likely happen?
Hint: Virtual Interaction Configuration
Well damn, they just need to add in IRC with the outside world, and a few web cams....
I believe that AI is in general just a matter of automating enough to create the by-product illusion of what the public preceive as "Artificial Intelligence". And yes I do believe the project can be used in such a manner to enable automation of external parts or applications that contribute to such an illusion.
Thanks for your interest/comment
Seems to me that corporate is playing ping pong with Linux....