Its really amazing how it was once laughed at and now all these articles trying to constrain what open source is.
Its like the single god and being saved thing goes... My god not yours....
But the hard reality, if there is a god, hes/shes not any one and all of them at the same time.
Want to add another facet to the open source jewel? Have at it, do it your way, I'll do it my way and everyone else will do it whatever way they so chose.
The fact that it comes together at all is a result of someone else taking it all and doing it their way...
Think tank 0f 100 companies???? I could have sworn there are more open source dev that what are at these companies...
to corporate entities, non-human entities for which human responsibility and recourse is a bit disconnected...
OK I get it, the data leaks aren't leaks at all but a feature of the first admendment....
Anyone want to post the private information that's been leaked to a public forum with their real name attached?
You sould be safe under the first admendment...
Anyone have such information on those who are using this as a corporate defence, to post?
We are constantly reminded that people are people and it does not matter where or who they work for, there can be nuts, as our current persident has proven, idiots, as our current.... etc...
When you release information that can then cause harm to another (want to publicly identify some spys?) then the first admendment can now be used as a defence????
Well damn... of course you wouldn't think it to be unreasonable to expect a computer to just work. You've seen it done!!!!! So have I!
And now you have seen the dumbing down of the users via MicroSoft... and the level of frustration for me has reached beyond expression...
I.E. the MS shell is a mighty big insult to users.... and the resizing is a slap in the face, outright lie. But imagine how many don't know that.
A big mindset change is in order to correct the user perspective regarding Open Source, but so is there a mindset change needed by the open source development community towards the users.
Most new open source user have been programmed to be dumb via proprietary software. They need to be deprogrammed and reprogrammed to have at least a clue. And that is the job of the developers who want feedback. The devs need to realize the real problem and help the users overcome the illusion that they, the user, is stupid, but instead just uninformed of the way the programmer(s) think in programming. And the programmers need to learn how to think like a user too.
Complaints I'm sure often happen out of frustration that results from having to figure out what the programmer(s) where thinking when they created the software the user frustrated with.
It not uncommon even for a programmer to get frustrated with some other programmers, in essence, mindset. Nor is it uncommon for someone who once did programming to get out of touch with new methods and then become frustrated with trying to debug something.
Its really more a "what were they thinking" issue from both sides of the street. and sometimes the only clue you have is the expression of frustration.
The bad part is when the solution is simple but obviously wasn't in the knowledge the user had. Or a lack of common mapping of problem/solution methodology. Today the best you can do is google for an answer and then start asking on IRC..with patience.
The more complicated a system becomes, the more frustration that will be expressed, even if there are no bugs.
But for Proprietary Software..... FUCK NO! I've had it with that trip of debugging someone else software where they insist they won't help the feedback loop but then want me to pay them for the software they improved due my debugging efforts. There is of course a spectrum here, where some few are decent enough to give back to those who have helped.
I think everyone who deal with proprietary software should NOT provide feedback. If proprietary development is so Fucking smart (grabbing patents on what some customer probably suggested to them), then why need I do anything to benefit them and their bias when paying them for their buggy user unfriendly software is enough.
IS there really this sort of problem with Open Source?
If there is I suspect its because proprietary software companies have polluted the minds of those complaining and not helping Open source with Feedback. Or its a long buildup of frustration with proprietary software with no outlet that open source now provides an outlet.
I'm impressed with dynebolic...as well as with some of the others.
ArtistX probably has most all music based programs available on linux included. Now they have mirrors - it was tough when I had no choice but to use bittorrent.
Ok so you have this 52" or DLP projector screen and the whole office working off of it.
I can hear it now, as the manager tells Fred to move his cursor faster and Julie to stop slowing the computer down doing company graphics. While leroy on his break can no longer check to see how his stock is doing. Of course Jackson has to work after hours to do accounting as a matter of keeping the company numbers hidden from those who get paid less but do more.....
Michael, That sentence you are writing should be done this way...
...I'm running AROS hosted on Linux.... wait a minute....ok, now I'm running two instances of AROS on Linux.... wait a minute... Ok now 4...now if I put each on it own workspace....hahah I have prior art for four... uh err, 5 running....
So what this is really about is trying to justify MS selling more OSs to a company than a company has hardware for.....
So quick someone patent the split computer chair that holds two people and simply say no to MS.
When you have to resort to dishonest tactics as stealing, you don't have much time left.
I went into a best buy just yesterday and noted the prices for computer related products was a good bit higher than Micro Center and that their DVD movies are also higher priced than I can find elsewhere locally.
Best buy isn't a best buy anymore and Microsoft, long known to be aggressive marketing with stepping over the legal and moral fence in a calculated manner should never steal in such a manner as this article indicates... unless they really are hurting. So they did it in at least two different ways.....but where else are they proping themselves up in a financial paperwork appearance?
Ever wonder what assets vs. debt would be if MS had to liquidate? A million on paper can convert to a penny in liquidated into hard cash. Oh but you have stock holders...... and that is the real point.
This is rather old news. Unless its not the same as I heard of Brazil many years ago regarding drug patents related to AIDS and Brazils growing problem with AIDS.
Perhaps Africa (leading nation in AIDS cases) needs to follow Brazil. Perhaps Brazil is a bit smarter than Africa.
The extreamist other side seems to think that if they let the world die they will still have income to do R&D.
In a country that supports the fraud of software patents, it doesn't mean much to be put on such a country of fraud, piracy list. In fact its probably honorable to be called out by such hypocrits.
Humanitarian? Maybe its more an economic and general human environmental issue.
How much money is raised in a month in the US, with a 10 cent gas price increase?
Postal rate hikes that the USPS doesn't need but government decided upon for escrow they (the government) failed in their own rules to designate what it is to be used for.
Where is my social security money going, that I'm not getting it when I retire (last notice I got from the SS admin said I'd be getting less then 74% at most)
Who is responsible for "the trillion dollar bet" (google it, read the transcript) and think world bank offer to make south east asia an interest bearing loan to get them out of this problem caused by who?..... and think world trade........center.
The Brazil response to AIDS is a non issue as the US simply makes up the rules as they go along and in this case they can just bill and hold in debt whom ever they choose, including its own citizens.
Which US controlled island do you suppose Bushs Bin Laden buddy is fearlessly relaxing on? Didn't we get his image Sadam put to death?
Come on, third world wanting windows over the free system of linux and the likes?
First off both have the basic applications of entry level, cept unix like allows learning better concepts and functionality. Open source then allows discovery and modification of programs... also better learning accessibility then proprietary stuff.
But then if MS wants to bait and switch, then I suppose they too is a lesson worth teaching. Bait and switch here of course being the obvious intent of MS here. Get them hooked on cheap then up the price (like a drug dealer selling illusion)
...Chemistry before it was chemistry as we know it today. But like pre-alchemy potions....guess work, trial and error, etc..
Somehow I think understanding gravity better will lead to flushing out the guesswork theories on such things as black holes and worm holes to other universes...
why can't a system have something like 4 gigs flash for faster (near instant) boot and power failure recovery? While using a hard drive for general storage?
.... I have friends in russia and we both know the enemy are those in power enough to screw things up for the rest of us. Most people just want to raise their family and enjoy what they can of their life. A small part of one percent have other ideas, a need to feel power over others.
Slashdot Mirror
....who can understand it that has been dumbed down?
And that is the answer. Industry dumbing down of the users!
You put in what, where, when and how you want to.
Its really amazing how it was once laughed at and now all these articles trying to constrain what open source is.
Its like the single god and being saved thing goes... My god not yours....
But the hard reality, if there is a god, hes/shes not any one and all of them at the same time.
Want to add another facet to the open source jewel? Have at it, do it your way, I'll do it my way and everyone else will do it whatever way they so chose.
The fact that it comes together at all is a result of someone else taking it all and doing it their way...
Think tank 0f 100 companies???? I could have sworn there are more open source dev that what are at these companies...
to corporate entities, non-human entities for which human responsibility and recourse is a bit disconnected...
OK I get it, the data leaks aren't leaks at all but a feature of the first admendment....
Anyone want to post the private information that's been leaked to a public forum with their real name attached?
You sould be safe under the first admendment...
Anyone have such information on those who are using this as a corporate defence, to post?
We are constantly reminded that people are people and it does not matter where or who they work for, there can be nuts, as our current persident has proven, idiots, as our current.... etc...
When you release information that can then cause harm to another (want to publicly identify some spys?) then the first admendment can now be used as a defence????
Well damn... of course you wouldn't think it to be unreasonable to expect a computer to just work.
You've seen it done!!!!! So have I!
And now you have seen the dumbing down of the users via MicroSoft... and the level of frustration for me has reached beyond expression...
I.E. the MS shell is a mighty big insult to users.... and the resizing is a slap in the face, outright lie. But imagine how many don't know that.
A big mindset change is in order to correct the user perspective regarding Open Source, but so is there a mindset change needed by the open source development community towards the users.
Most new open source user have been programmed to be dumb via proprietary software. They need to be deprogrammed and reprogrammed to have at least a clue. And that is the job of the developers who want feedback. The devs need to realize the real problem and help the users overcome the illusion that they, the user, is stupid, but instead just uninformed of the way the programmer(s) think in programming. And the programmers need to learn how to think like a user too.
Complaints I'm sure often happen out of frustration that results from having to figure out what the programmer(s) where thinking when they created the software the user frustrated with.
It not uncommon even for a programmer to get frustrated with some other programmers, in essence, mindset. Nor is it uncommon for someone who once did programming to get out of touch with new methods and then become frustrated with trying to debug something.
Its really more a "what were they thinking" issue from both sides of the street. and sometimes the only clue you have is the expression of frustration.
The bad part is when the solution is simple but obviously wasn't in the knowledge the user had. Or a lack of common mapping of problem/solution methodology. Today the best you can do is google for an answer and then start asking on IRC..with patience.
The more complicated a system becomes, the more frustration that will be expressed, even if there are no bugs.
sure... helping helps the open source process.
But for Proprietary Software..... FUCK NO! I've had it with that trip of debugging someone else software where they insist they won't help the feedback loop but then want me to pay them for the software they improved due my debugging efforts. There is of course a spectrum here, where some few are decent enough to give back to those who have helped.
I think everyone who deal with proprietary software should NOT provide feedback. If proprietary development is so Fucking smart (grabbing patents on what some customer probably suggested to them), then why need I do anything to benefit them and their bias when paying them for their buggy user unfriendly software is enough.
IS there really this sort of problem with Open Source?
If there is I suspect its because proprietary software companies have polluted the minds of those complaining and not helping Open source with Feedback. Or its a long buildup of frustration with proprietary software with no outlet that open source now provides an outlet.
... just look for DRM.
Then it can't be bootleged..... right??
http://www.artistx.org/
see additional links down teh page.
I'm impressed with dynebolic...as well as with some of the others.
ArtistX probably has most all music based programs available on linux included.
Now they have mirrors - it was tough when I had no choice but to use bittorrent.
...asleep.
Then waking up and inventing what they saw in friction.
Oh wait, isn't this how the cell phone came about? (re: star trek communicators)
Ok, now everyone start watching movies like fifth element and star wars and such.... before bed..
Maybe we can finally get our flying cars...
post a link...
http://www.bullyinginstitute.org/
... micro management.....
Ok so you have this 52" or DLP projector screen and the whole office working off of it.
I can hear it now, as the manager tells Fred to move his cursor faster and Julie to stop slowing the computer down doing company graphics. While leroy on his break can no longer check to see how his stock is doing. Of course Jackson has to work after hours to do accounting as a matter of keeping the company numbers hidden from those who get paid less but do more.....
Michael, That sentence you are writing should be done this way...
...I'm running AROS hosted on Linux.... wait a minute....ok, now I'm running two instances of AROS on Linux.... wait a minute... Ok now 4...now if I put each on it own workspace....hahah I have prior art for four... uh err, 5 running....
So what this is really about is trying to justify MS selling more OSs to a company than a company has hardware for.....
So quick someone patent the split computer chair that holds two people and simply say no to MS.
everyone is a terroristic threat, except those who aren't.
Oh I feel so much safer now....
good to know people can be so easily distracted from the point. That explains bin laden...
.... will there be another story on slashdot today about another data leak?
.... what to expect of their lifespan.
When you have to resort to dishonest tactics as stealing, you don't have much time left.
I went into a best buy just yesterday and noted the prices for computer related products was a good bit higher than Micro Center and that their DVD movies are also higher priced than I can find elsewhere locally.
Best buy isn't a best buy anymore and Microsoft, long known to be aggressive marketing with stepping over the legal and moral fence in a calculated manner should never steal in such a manner as this article indicates... unless they really are hurting. So they did it in at least two different ways.....but where else are they proping themselves up in a financial paperwork appearance?
Ever wonder what assets vs. debt would be if MS had to liquidate? A million on paper can convert to a penny in liquidated into hard cash. Oh but you have stock holders...... and that is the real point.
This is rather old news. Unless its not the same as I heard of Brazil many years ago regarding drug patents related to AIDS and Brazils growing problem with AIDS.
Perhaps Africa (leading nation in AIDS cases) needs to follow Brazil. Perhaps Brazil is a bit smarter than Africa.
The extreamist other side seems to think that if they let the world die they will still have income to do R&D.
In a country that supports the fraud of software patents, it doesn't mean much to be put on such a country of fraud, piracy list. In fact its probably honorable to be called out by such hypocrits.
Humanitarian? Maybe its more an economic and general human environmental issue.
How much money is raised in a month in the US, with a 10 cent gas price increase?
Postal rate hikes that the USPS doesn't need but government decided upon for escrow they (the government) failed in their own rules to designate what it is to be used for.
Where is my social security money going, that I'm not getting it when I retire (last notice I got from the SS admin said I'd be getting less then 74% at most)
Who is responsible for "the trillion dollar bet" (google it, read the transcript) and think world bank offer to make south east asia an interest bearing loan to get them out of this problem caused by who?..... and think world trade........center.
The Brazil response to AIDS is a non issue as the US simply makes up the rules as they go along and in this case they can just bill and hold in debt whom ever they choose, including its own citizens.
Which US controlled island do you suppose Bushs Bin Laden buddy is fearlessly relaxing on? Didn't we get his image Sadam put to death?
The universe does revolve around the earth.
Proving its a POV thing...
So someone needs to go and stand inside the sun.
Anyone?
... have a digital identification, and most everyone does, you have to be alert to possible wrongful use of it by others.
Considering all the past digital leaks, I got wonder who hasn't had information on them digitally leaked?
.... that will really work...
Come on, third world wanting windows over the free system of linux and the likes?
First off both have the basic applications of entry level, cept unix like allows learning better concepts and functionality.
Open source then allows discovery and modification of programs... also better learning accessibility then proprietary stuff.
But then if MS wants to bait and switch, then I suppose they too is a lesson worth teaching.
Bait and switch here of course being the obvious intent of MS here. Get them hooked on cheap then up the price (like a drug dealer selling illusion)
.... We now have more scifi scripting ideas....
...Chemistry before it was chemistry as we know it today. But like pre-alchemy potions....guess work, trial and error, etc..
Somehow I think understanding gravity better will lead to flushing out the guesswork theories on such things as black holes and worm holes to other universes...
why can't a system have something like 4 gigs flash for faster (near instant) boot and power failure recovery? While using a hard drive for general storage?
Or is there a patent on this?
Or is this just an updated version of the silliness of "where did existance come from?"
I think therefore I am?
Existance and consciousness have one thing in common. They either exist or they don't, there is no inbetween.
But then maybe this articles theory explains alot....
.... I have friends in russia and we both know the enemy are those in power enough to screw things up for the rest of us. Most people just want to raise their family and enjoy what they can of their life. A small part of one percent have other ideas, a need to feel power over others.
... class action fraud suit against Microsoft?
Where are the open source legal forces? EFF??