At this point, anything that proves that these SJW's are stupid is the best thing possible. So I salute those two guys who trolled SJW's and showed the entire world that they're nothing but hyper-emotional individuals that only do stuff because it "makes them feel good" while ignoring actual problems.
Luckily that's the US and not Japan huh? The Abe government in Japan pass something similar with the restart of nuclear plants there due to that problem.
Well it is, as long as you can be allowed to upgrade/replace aging reactors and not blocked by environmentalists and anti-nuke protesters from building a safer replacement.
First I like how you keep ignoring my comments about Sarkeesian being accused of fraud (another of the founding events). Very ethical, that...
Really? That should be easy to prove. I'm sure you can find a source for that, but since it didn't happen you're going to have a tough time. Just a FYI though, Gamergate didn't have anything to do with Sarkeesian until she decided to inject herself into it. And of course since it's been what? 2 years? 3 years now? Since her project was funded and it's still not done. Well that sure is tough, I mean if Obsidian and InXile can pump out a game in 2.5 years that has 40-80 hours of content it should only have taken her a span of weeks to finish her videos right.
Ah so you mean the gaters were massively exaggerating for dramatic effect. Know what we call journalists who do that? Unethical.
No there was no exaggeration.
OK on to your links. First one has no mention of the game. It's some comments from Quinn and others about Steam Greenlight. I don't see a problem there. But as far as positive coverage of "depression quest" goes, you're firmly into "making shit up" territory. So very ethical of you. Second one is one word (standout), which does not qualify as a review even slightly. Massive exaggeration in journalism is unethical. And that was IIRC done before any relationship started.
Did you skip the part where the story was written by Nathon Grayson, and he was writing a story about a person with quotes...and the stories in question were about Quinn. That's called positive coverage. That he then went on, and did not disclose it. If that had happened in an actual newspaper the reporter would have been placed on leave, and the paper would have published a clarification, apology, and state that there was a conflict of interest. If it had been on TV, the same things would have happened.
Again there was no review, the only "review" that exists is the one where you're making it up. It's positive or favorable coverage. And IIRC that was done before after the relationship started, or did you miss that Grayson paid for her hotel room, and was visiting with her before the articles were published and had met up several times before that.
The their article you're right, but it was the first time that there was any admission that there was disclosure. That was the point.
So here's your evidence of sex for reviews:
The only thing about sex for reviews has been made up by the anti-side FYI, and that was after people who had been looking at it had started Gamergate. FYI the first part that started digging into it was called "burgers and fries." You might get the reference from the fact that she was banging 5 people guys, and people decided it was a better idea to dump it. That also FYI happened about 2-3 weeks before Gamergate actually started, and Gamergate of course really didn't take off until the guys in Gamejournopros decided to blacklist all talk on it, and/r/games and/r/gaming did the same thing. I'm sure you understand what the Streisand Effect is.
two complete lies (the links had nothing to do with the game) and one word of coverage.
And you have the gall to call her unethical? Incredible.
Coverage is coverage--and that had something to do with her, and the game.
Not her, him. You get it yet?
I did. The only thing it's proof of is the wildly unethical behaviour of the gamer gaters: there is nothing, no matter how tenuous they won't spin, spin, spin. Amazingly despite it's obvious and myriad flaws, the gaters are so unethical they actually make the game journalists look ethical by comparison. Now how's that for a massive own goal.
There is nothing unethical there, but you're doing a really good job of showing how ignorant you are on how the world works. And what actually happens when someone doesn't disclose a relationship with a person/source/etc that they happen to be shacking up with. Perhaps you'd do better if someone drew you a map?
Well come to Canada, you can have your choice between the sun coming up at 4:30 and having a 23 hour day or the sun going down at 10:30pm and coming up at 3:30am or 23.6hrs of total darkness. Downsides may include ass-freezing cold, high taxes, a provincial government that's under investigation by the RCMP and/or provincial police, and the highest electricity prices in North America!
Do you know any actual criminals? I have met many, and few of them are "smart". Also, they don't have to get the DNA of the suspect. They can identify someone by looking at the DNA of a sibling or parent.
I've known a few in my time, including several who were in the Hells Angels here in Canada. Most aren't hmm better word would be intelligent, but many of them are as sly as fuck and that can make all the difference in the world. It would be much closer to book smarts vs street smarts, the difference between the two of them is theoretical vs real-world application. That of course also applies to many people who've made it big. They have theoretical knowledge but what they've learned out in the world has let them apply that to leverage an advantage.
And yet the founding event of gamergate was sex-for-reviews.
No the founding event of gamergate was unethical conduct by someone posting a positive review with someone they were in a relationship with. That person posting the review was Nathon Grayson, the person he was in a relationship with was Zoe Quinn.
And that never happened. You never showed me the review---because it simply doesn't exist.
No the entire thing was built on fact, that I just showed you. The zoepost as well, shows her statements to Eron while she was engaged in a relationship with Nathon, and her abuse of Eron, including the rape she committed against him(it's important to note, I'm using her definition of rape -- that is cheating behind someones back).
So, there's the proof all nicely laid out. Go ahead, read it. You know who else did something similar? Rich McCormic, he was in a relationship with a Ubisoft PR representative, and wrote articles about Ubisoft games without disclosing it. You know what happened? PC Gamer deleted every single article that he wrote on any Ubisoft game, or had any information relating to it.
I would call them SJW's and if you'd asked me a year ago if the "if you ignore it, they'd go away" belief would hold true. Right now, they're extremely vocal, and very loud. And the main drivers of the safe spaces policies, including the restriction of free speech on campuses. Ignoring them sadly, doesn't seem to have worked over the last 8-10 years. The only solution then is to call out their bullshit for all the world to see, which seems to be happening. Especially since SJW is now hitting the mainstream, and as more people see it people call them out for their general craziness the more they shrink back.
Good point, that would be interesting to see. It shouldn't be too hard to get someone to do it, someone just finished up a long-term study on video games and whether or not it increases violence. That answer is only if you look for it, but in general no.
I think it would be better if we could make an educated guess on what would happen, not presume. Since one can look back over the last year and see all the cries of everything is sexist. My personal favorites? Anita Sarkeesian saying everything is sexist, racist, and all that. Along with "air conditioning is sexist..." How did it ever succeed before?
Much like you, I'm a fan of egalitarianism, the problem is modern feminism is not. Which is why you now see stuff like this popping up. Many people already know that there's a problem, it's also why you're seeing more people saying that a person should be hired based on merit. Sadly businesses don't seem to be doing that and are wondering why they're failing hard. Good example? Intel, who recently over the last two years said "we're gonna hire more women and minorities" not based on merit, but based on their sex or ethnic status(Asians don't count though).
Though, Graybeards Inc. could be interesting...very interesting. I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
I'm curious as to how they'd respond if the company had a class exclusively for men.
That's easy. There would be calls that it's sexist, it's misogyny and should be open to women along with 480 news stories about how xyz event is sexist and should be open to women.. Just look at any male exclusive event and see the screaming over it.
Seriously, you pay for texting by the message? Is that even legal these days?
It is in Canada and the US. If you're not blowing $30+mo on your cell you're paying for incoming and outgoing text messages, unless the company you're with gives incoming texts for free.
Buzzfeed and gawker are only hanging on because they've gotten infusions of cash from VC's or the parent company. There were a few articles in Venturebeat on it a few months ago. Anandtech is as bad as/. for the whining SJW and everything is sexist BS, though not as bad as hackernews which is just cancer.
So the video is fake as well? You know the part where they logged into their facebook account and recorded it. Well I guess that solves that doesn't it after all it's difficult to fake that isn't it. Of course you can always ask Eron yourself, he's on reddit this is his account:/u/qrios
And the only people saying that it was a review for positive coverage are people who don't know what they're talking about. It was favorable coverage with no disclosure by the author while they were in a relationship and the author in question paid $500+ for her hotel room. That of course was while she was banging 4 other people, in the industry some who were also journalists who wrote about her point-and-click adventure, without disclosing they were also in a relationship with her.
Don't worry if the only proof you've been getting is the one where the aggros and press have been lying out of their teeth for the last year. It's an easy mistake, but I corrected it for you.
I also noted that you failed to comment on the part where Zoe Quinn filed a gag order that blocked his freedom of speech. Where she was the abusive party in the relationship as well, I'll bet $20 that if the sexes were reversed you'd be cheering her on.
Some angry guy posted some fake stuff about Zoe Quinn, and that launched the entire shitfest. Reporting fake stuff is pretty much the definition of unethical journalism.
Well that's easy, because they believe segregation is the right way to do things. There isn't much of a difference between the racial segregationists of the 50's and 60's and today's sexual segregationists, some of the talking points are almost identical. Which of course makes it easy to figure out who the extremists really are.
Also, how the hell did Slashdot succumb to these PC narrative driven clickbait articles of all places. News for nerds stuff that matters?
Oh that's easy,/. was sold to Dice, who is a holding company. Dice decided to hop on the muhsoggyknees bandwagon along with the SJW bandwagon which is starting to show it's death-throws already. Note the number of sites that specialize in this type of clickbait dying as people simply refuse to go to them for anything.
It'll be a huge failure. Sweden, Denmark, and Norway have already proven that with the "women only" technology related schools including programming only schools and classes.
That'll work out really well, especially for those on prepay plans where you get charged $0.25 text message. Well if yahoo wants to commit sudoku they're doing a fine job.
I don't know about in the US but in Canada we have something called a PSW, who works for hospitals, VON(Victorian order of nurses), St. Elisabeth's care and so on. In their official capacity they're not a nurse, but they are a personal care worker who can stay with the person up to 20 hours per day, some will even move into a persons home in order to make them feel better.
It's a hell of a hard choice to do anything, but having a family member there is a huge boon to them. My grandparents looked after my great grandmother oh 20 something years ago now, she lived at their home until her health deteriorated so badly that she needed 24/7 nursing care.
Agreed, and sadly decline can be rapid as well. While the situation I had probably isn't the same as yours or the question in general. Nothing really works except human supervision, especially since a person who can seem good one day when you're checking on them, can be the complete opposite by 5pm of the same day. They can get easily confused when non-standard things enter their lives as well, and become upset by it.
Even basic things that the person in question used to do, for say taking medications won't work either. Stuff like pre-packaged blister packs with the days of the week and simple numbering won't work either, especially when their reasoning and understanding start to become shaky.
In my case I was looking after my grandmother who had stage 4 lung cancer when it was diagnosed. From a period of September two years ago until January last year she was good, then rapid decay of her mental abilities kicked in. There was no way you could leave her alone at all, she'd walk out of the building and forget where she was, or go looking for my grandfather who was dead 5 years at that point. By the spring I was living there 24/7 to look after her and take care of her daily, by summer I also had the assistance of CCAC(nursing care entering the home so I could take a break). By September of that same year she required 24/7 nursing care and was in a nursing home, by October she was in hospice care for the terminally ill and bed ridden.
Well...that's not exactly true. For hetro-women it's one of their biggest draws, same reason why women are the biggest consumers yaoi and slashfiction.
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At this point, anything that proves that these SJW's are stupid is the best thing possible. So I salute those two guys who trolled SJW's and showed the entire world that they're nothing but hyper-emotional individuals that only do stuff because it "makes them feel good" while ignoring actual problems.
Luckily that's the US and not Japan huh? The Abe government in Japan pass something similar with the restart of nuclear plants there due to that problem.
Well it is, as long as you can be allowed to upgrade/replace aging reactors and not blocked by environmentalists and anti-nuke protesters from building a safer replacement.
First I like how you keep ignoring my comments about Sarkeesian being accused of fraud (another of the founding events). Very ethical, that...
Really? That should be easy to prove. I'm sure you can find a source for that, but since it didn't happen you're going to have a tough time. Just a FYI though, Gamergate didn't have anything to do with Sarkeesian until she decided to inject herself into it. And of course since it's been what? 2 years? 3 years now? Since her project was funded and it's still not done. Well that sure is tough, I mean if Obsidian and InXile can pump out a game in 2.5 years that has 40-80 hours of content it should only have taken her a span of weeks to finish her videos right.
Ah so you mean the gaters were massively exaggerating for dramatic effect. Know what we call journalists who do that? Unethical.
No there was no exaggeration.
OK on to your links. First one has no mention of the game. It's some comments from Quinn and others about Steam Greenlight. I don't see a problem there. But as far as positive coverage of "depression quest" goes, you're firmly into "making shit up" territory. So very ethical of you. Second one is one word (standout), which does not qualify as a review even slightly. Massive exaggeration in journalism is unethical. And that was IIRC done before any relationship started.
Did you skip the part where the story was written by Nathon Grayson, and he was writing a story about a person with quotes...and the stories in question were about Quinn. That's called positive coverage. That he then went on, and did not disclose it. If that had happened in an actual newspaper the reporter would have been placed on leave, and the paper would have published a clarification, apology, and state that there was a conflict of interest. If it had been on TV, the same things would have happened.
Again there was no review, the only "review" that exists is the one where you're making it up. It's positive or favorable coverage. And IIRC that was done before after the relationship started, or did you miss that Grayson paid for her hotel room, and was visiting with her before the articles were published and had met up several times before that.
The their article you're right, but it was the first time that there was any admission that there was disclosure. That was the point.
So here's your evidence of sex for reviews:
The only thing about sex for reviews has been made up by the anti-side FYI, and that was after people who had been looking at it had started Gamergate. FYI the first part that started digging into it was called "burgers and fries." You might get the reference from the fact that she was banging 5 people guys, and people decided it was a better idea to dump it. That also FYI happened about 2-3 weeks before Gamergate actually started, and Gamergate of course really didn't take off until the guys in Gamejournopros decided to blacklist all talk on it, and /r/games and /r/gaming did the same thing. I'm sure you understand what the Streisand Effect is.
two complete lies (the links had nothing to do with the game) and one word of coverage.
And you have the gall to call her unethical? Incredible.
Coverage is coverage--and that had something to do with her, and the game.
Not her, him. You get it yet?
I did. The only thing it's proof of is the wildly unethical behaviour of the gamer gaters: there is nothing, no matter how tenuous they won't spin, spin, spin. Amazingly despite it's obvious and myriad flaws, the gaters are so unethical they actually make the game journalists look ethical by comparison. Now how's that for a massive own goal.
There is nothing unethical there, but you're doing a really good job of showing how ignorant you are on how the world works. And what actually happens when someone doesn't disclose a relationship with a person/source/etc that they happen to be shacking up with. Perhaps you'd do better if someone drew you a map?
Well come to Canada, you can have your choice between the sun coming up at 4:30 and having a 23 hour day or the sun going down at 10:30pm and coming up at 3:30am or 23.6hrs of total darkness. Downsides may include ass-freezing cold, high taxes, a provincial government that's under investigation by the RCMP and/or provincial police, and the highest electricity prices in North America!
Do you know any actual criminals? I have met many, and few of them are "smart". Also, they don't have to get the DNA of the suspect. They can identify someone by looking at the DNA of a sibling or parent.
I've known a few in my time, including several who were in the Hells Angels here in Canada. Most aren't hmm better word would be intelligent, but many of them are as sly as fuck and that can make all the difference in the world. It would be much closer to book smarts vs street smarts, the difference between the two of them is theoretical vs real-world application. That of course also applies to many people who've made it big. They have theoretical knowledge but what they've learned out in the world has let them apply that to leverage an advantage.
And yet the founding event of gamergate was sex-for-reviews.
No the founding event of gamergate was unethical conduct by someone posting a positive review with someone they were in a relationship with. That person posting the review was Nathon Grayson, the person he was in a relationship with was Zoe Quinn.
And that never happened. You never showed me the review---because it simply doesn't exist.
It's not a review, it's positive coverage. And he did it not once, but in three different cases. Without disclosing they were in a relationship. This was later collaborated when he disclosed he had been in a relationship with her. He has still not disclosed he paid her financially either.
The entire thing was therefore built on a lie.
No the entire thing was built on fact, that I just showed you. The zoepost as well, shows her statements to Eron while she was engaged in a relationship with Nathon, and her abuse of Eron, including the rape she committed against him(it's important to note, I'm using her definition of rape -- that is cheating behind someones back).
So, there's the proof all nicely laid out. Go ahead, read it. You know who else did something similar? Rich McCormic, he was in a relationship with a Ubisoft PR representative, and wrote articles about Ubisoft games without disclosing it. You know what happened? PC Gamer deleted every single article that he wrote on any Ubisoft game, or had any information relating to it.
That could work very well.
I would call them SJW's and if you'd asked me a year ago if the "if you ignore it, they'd go away" belief would hold true. Right now, they're extremely vocal, and very loud. And the main drivers of the safe spaces policies, including the restriction of free speech on campuses. Ignoring them sadly, doesn't seem to have worked over the last 8-10 years. The only solution then is to call out their bullshit for all the world to see, which seems to be happening. Especially since SJW is now hitting the mainstream, and as more people see it people call them out for their general craziness the more they shrink back.
Good point, that would be interesting to see. It shouldn't be too hard to get someone to do it, someone just finished up a long-term study on video games and whether or not it increases violence. That answer is only if you look for it, but in general no.
Commit sudoku.
I think it would be better if we could make an educated guess on what would happen, not presume. Since one can look back over the last year and see all the cries of everything is sexist. My personal favorites? Anita Sarkeesian saying everything is sexist, racist, and all that. Along with "air conditioning is sexist..." How did it ever succeed before?
Much like you, I'm a fan of egalitarianism, the problem is modern feminism is not. Which is why you now see stuff like this popping up. Many people already know that there's a problem, it's also why you're seeing more people saying that a person should be hired based on merit. Sadly businesses don't seem to be doing that and are wondering why they're failing hard. Good example? Intel, who recently over the last two years said "we're gonna hire more women and minorities" not based on merit, but based on their sex or ethnic status(Asians don't count though).
Though, Graybeards Inc. could be interesting...very interesting. I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
By the way if you want to see how deep of a rabbit hole for favorable coverage it was, you can look here. Just remember the ethics beam burns hot.
I'm curious as to how they'd respond if the company had a class exclusively for men.
That's easy. There would be calls that it's sexist, it's misogyny and should be open to women along with 480 news stories about how xyz event is sexist and should be open to women.. Just look at any male exclusive event and see the screaming over it.
Seriously, you pay for texting by the message? Is that even legal these days?
It is in Canada and the US. If you're not blowing $30+mo on your cell you're paying for incoming and outgoing text messages, unless the company you're with gives incoming texts for free.
And no, commit sudoku.
Buzzfeed and gawker are only hanging on because they've gotten infusions of cash from VC's or the parent company. There were a few articles in Venturebeat on it a few months ago. Anandtech is as bad as /. for the whining SJW and everything is sexist BS, though not as bad as hackernews which is just cancer.
So the video is fake as well? You know the part where they logged into their facebook account and recorded it. Well I guess that solves that doesn't it after all it's difficult to fake that isn't it. Of course you can always ask Eron yourself, he's on reddit this is his account: /u/qrios
And the only people saying that it was a review for positive coverage are people who don't know what they're talking about. It was favorable coverage with no disclosure by the author while they were in a relationship and the author in question paid $500+ for her hotel room. That of course was while she was banging 4 other people, in the industry some who were also journalists who wrote about her point-and-click adventure, without disclosing they were also in a relationship with her.
Don't worry if the only proof you've been getting is the one where the aggros and press have been lying out of their teeth for the last year. It's an easy mistake, but I corrected it for you.
I also noted that you failed to comment on the part where Zoe Quinn filed a gag order that blocked his freedom of speech. Where she was the abusive party in the relationship as well, I'll bet $20 that if the sexes were reversed you'd be cheering her on.
Some angry guy posted some fake stuff about Zoe Quinn, and that launched the entire shitfest. Reporting fake stuff is pretty much the definition of unethical journalism.
No her ex posted some true stuff about Zoe Quinn(FYI, those include actual screenshots and other various proofs), was hit with a gag order that blocked his first amendment rights to discuss it. It's now in the courts in MA, where Eugene Volokh and others are working to set a precedence based on the case.
Well that's easy, because they believe segregation is the right way to do things. There isn't much of a difference between the racial segregationists of the 50's and 60's and today's sexual segregationists, some of the talking points are almost identical. Which of course makes it easy to figure out who the extremists really are.
Also, how the hell did Slashdot succumb to these PC narrative driven clickbait articles of all places. News for nerds stuff that matters?
Oh that's easy, /. was sold to Dice, who is a holding company. Dice decided to hop on the muhsoggyknees bandwagon along with the SJW bandwagon which is starting to show it's death-throws already. Note the number of sites that specialize in this type of clickbait dying as people simply refuse to go to them for anything.
It'll be a huge failure. Sweden, Denmark, and Norway have already proven that with the "women only" technology related schools including programming only schools and classes.
That'll work out really well, especially for those on prepay plans where you get charged $0.25 text message. Well if yahoo wants to commit sudoku they're doing a fine job.
I don't know about in the US but in Canada we have something called a PSW, who works for hospitals, VON(Victorian order of nurses), St. Elisabeth's care and so on. In their official capacity they're not a nurse, but they are a personal care worker who can stay with the person up to 20 hours per day, some will even move into a persons home in order to make them feel better.
It's a hell of a hard choice to do anything, but having a family member there is a huge boon to them. My grandparents looked after my great grandmother oh 20 something years ago now, she lived at their home until her health deteriorated so badly that she needed 24/7 nursing care.
Agreed, and sadly decline can be rapid as well. While the situation I had probably isn't the same as yours or the question in general. Nothing really works except human supervision, especially since a person who can seem good one day when you're checking on them, can be the complete opposite by 5pm of the same day. They can get easily confused when non-standard things enter their lives as well, and become upset by it.
Even basic things that the person in question used to do, for say taking medications won't work either. Stuff like pre-packaged blister packs with the days of the week and simple numbering won't work either, especially when their reasoning and understanding start to become shaky.
In my case I was looking after my grandmother who had stage 4 lung cancer when it was diagnosed. From a period of September two years ago until January last year she was good, then rapid decay of her mental abilities kicked in. There was no way you could leave her alone at all, she'd walk out of the building and forget where she was, or go looking for my grandfather who was dead 5 years at that point. By the spring I was living there 24/7 to look after her and take care of her daily, by summer I also had the assistance of CCAC(nursing care entering the home so I could take a break). By September of that same year she required 24/7 nursing care and was in a nursing home, by October she was in hospice care for the terminally ill and bed ridden.
Don't let the hipsters know that, they'll get butthurt because their walking simulators and games with 1980's graphics aren't doing so shit hot.
They could fix that if they weren't charging $50-250 per ticket to go listen to them.
All-male sex IS bad! If you're straight...
Well...that's not exactly true. For hetro-women it's one of their biggest draws, same reason why women are the biggest consumers yaoi and slashfiction.