Tell that to the people who've been charged with hate speech after being raped because she called her rapist a bad name. What didn't hear about that one? How about where thousands of girls were raped and used as sex slaves, but the police didn't do anything for fear of being labeled racist and even went as far as to threaten the families with prosecution if they said anything.
Europeans have good reasons to see hate speech differently than we do in America. If Adolph Hitler had been muzzled early on millions of lives would have been saved.
Really? You mean the fact that the winners of WWI basically pissing on Germany had nothing to do with it? Or are you trying to say that if you censor views and ignore the issues they bring up you're making society better. I mean it's sure working well in the UK isn't it. Where the 13yr old rape victim was arrested and charged with hate speech because she called the muslim who raped her a bad name. Or the councils and government dry washing their hands for fear of being labeled 'racist' with all those "asian grooming gangs" and threatening people who want them charged and arrested.
Yep...that's not going to backfire at all...not a single bit..
Children tend to have a hard time distinguishing fantasy from reality.
Correction: Poorly raised children and children who are raised without parental oversight have a hard time distinguishing fantasy from reality. Which would also explain the hordes of adults that screech over violent video games/movies and how they're harming children. Or how violent video games/movies are causing gun shootings/stabbings/etc. You'll find that the young kids who can tell the difference between "right and wrong" before say 6, are the same ones who have a strong sense of self and can tell the difference between the two even now. And you'll find the kids who were entering puberty and still hadn't figured it out, still have a shaky grasp of it today as adults.
Most people on/. are desensitized to fake violence. You can see that decapitation of someone in a movie and know it's fake. Real violence? That real human suffering? Most people have never worked with EMS or police at a fatality where you can smell the blood in the air and the metallic taste in your mouth, the pounding right down to your toes and fingernails as fight or flight kicks in. There's a real difference between the two. There's also a real reason why people who do it all the time have a dark sense of humor(aka trench humor), it's one of the ways they cope with it.
"Nazism" Where a cartoon frog is nazism. This is why you lost, this is why people laugh at progressives. It's why the DNC is now in a civil war between progressives, liberals and socjus and in a fight for it's life.
It's Ontario, we've got no shortage of it. The only reason we don't supply as much as we used to is because the mines were outpriced by cheaper mines in 3rd world countries. Ontario was up until the 1960's the largest producer in the world of high-grade nickle ore. Hell search the "ontario ring of fire" it's the remains of a metor impact, chalk full of RE's, cobalt, magnesium, well pretty much everything except bauxite. The current government(provincial liberals) have been wringing their hands over the resource extraction for over a decade with companies lined up and out the door to build mines there.
Why you might ask? Because they'd rather have a service based economy and not a manufacturing/extraction based economy and have gone out of their way to fuck it all up. The number of companies that have fled to NY or MI to avoid high electricity prices and taxes is staggering. Hell, even with the price of high-grade steel rising the mills sitting in Hamilton wouldn't reopen because the costs are too high.
So if I'm in law enforcement in Canada, I could say I have a magic device that detects corruption, point fingers, and then people just have to deal with it?
Meanwhile in the USA people are able to scrutinize breathalyzers and challenge their validity in court?
No. You don't have to deal with it, they still have to prove that it's admissible. That it follows the chain of evidence, and turn over all the information to the defense so you can build your case. In Canada you can challenge the validity of all those, and radar guns in cop cars and everything else too.
In Canada however, the CEA(evidence act) allows the redaction of information if it would allow criminals to figure out a way to beat it. On the other hand, this can be used by a defense attorney to argue that they haven't received full disclosure in turn their client hasn't received a fair trial.
This will likely end up heading to the supreme court, this was only a provincial court(still federal though). If you read the article, you can see that there's multiple cases where charges have been stayed because the police refused to disclose this information. No disclosure to the defense = no possibility to actually convict.
So what it means is that the court, evidence, and crowns offices are working properly. You're still getting a fair trial and all the rest.
You are addressing the wrong problem. Storing the data is not the problem. Scanning it is. Loading thousands or millions of pages into a scanner is a mostly manual process. Who is going to pay for that? Not me.
Scanning isn't a problem, not a problem at all. When I was out in AB a few years ago on vacation I got bored and digitized a towns historical records, council meetings, town liens, etc. There was around 80 years worth of the stuff, upwards of 140k pages worth of documents. With the in-office photocopier, I got all that done in around 2 weeks. Most of the pages were in a non-standard format as well usually 9x14" or 8.5x20" sheets. The only real problems were with odd-ball sized stuff like 2.5x11" stuff which had to be manually scanned otherwise it would jam the machine. Final payout was just under $7k for my time and effort. Even at that, everything could be stored on a single 60GB flash drive.
There was a big push out in western canada to do this a few years ago after the wildfires that wiped out several towns and cities. It's absolutely doable and has been for years. They just didn't want to layout the money to do it and now they can enjoy the fruits of their inaction.
3. I wonder if you're just another baby-raping Nazi like many of the Gamergate fuckturnips?
Sorry, that label is currently being held by anti-gamergate individuals and hollywood. Also members of the media who are rotting in the ground in the UK.
1. If you meant "a typical male..." the hyphen destroys your meaning.
US english, isn't the only version of english around.
2. If you meant "atypical" that means the opposite of what you intended.
The FBI investigation includes confessions of those behind GamerGate.
You mean the 13 year old kid who had no connections to gamergate that you're trying to claim that was part of gamergate? I guess that makes things easy, you can go read the document dump anytime you want. Then that other guy you're talking about who was the 3rd party troll? Who also stated they weren't part of gamergate and did it because they wanted to get a rise out of both sides? You might want to actually get off your ass and read the entire thing instead of relying on an excerpt. There's critical context missing form that.
Seems to me you're doing a great job of showing that you can't even read a document, let alone stand it. You don't think women need to be coddled? That seems to go fully against your own reasoning on multiple occasions.
You could at least apologise for suggesting I might be a rapist though. I'm all for robust, open debate but that was just nasty and uncalled for.
I'm holding you, to your standards. "Listen and believe." There's a point to it, and if you think on it you'll have figured it out. If on the other hand you haven't, I can explain it to you.
Wait wait wait... The "old media" are far left activists? You mean like the Daily Mail and Fox News?
You man CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC(and ABC AUS) Guardian, CBC, CTV, Global, Globe and Mail, NYT, Washington Post, USA Today? Boy oh boy, we got 2 vs all of those other ones. Well actually 3, because you forgot to rail against breitbart.
The Federal Liberals are likely far more scared considering what's happening in provincial politics right now. The largest voting block is Ontario, and the provincial liberals are polling at 11% vs Conservatives at 33% and the NDP at 20%. The policies of the provincial liberals(green energy boon dongle, massive corruption, sanctuary city BS) and so on are pissing people off. Round that out with Trudeaus "oh we'll take the illegals..." really pissed people off. The last time 80% of Canadians agreed on polling over anything was with hockey. And the vast majority are pissed off over all of these illegals getting free shit, while they're kicking single mothers and fathers out of hotels and onto the street.
Most places in Canada already have a 4 year backlog for low-income housing. In my area of Ontario is 6.5 years. People don't mind the government giving assistance, but they want it to goto actual citizens first.
Wait, you have definitive evidence that it was 3rd party trolls? You can refute the IRC logs and all the other evidence? Please share.
Considering the fbi investigation states as much, and those IRC logs have been disputed as fully taken out of context by Quinn? Yes. That's on top of all of those big name anti-GG people who were caught doxing people, along with people in CON itself who doxed people.
Also, fuck you. Seriously, this is a new low.
Considering you're displaying the same pattern of behavior? It wouldn't surprise me. After all, you seem to believe women need to be coddled. Just like all those other allies do.
The crime reporting rate is higher than for crimes by Germans, and the immigrant camps are stratified by immigration eligibility with only overbearing environmental influences breaking the trend of non-violence for immigration.
Your article and you are missing something critical. When you apply and are accepted for immigration status(application accepted), you automatically become a german in the crime statistics. If you're applying, you are still labeled as an immigrant. And now you learn how to easily massage criminal statistics.
You are a cunt if you think those are anything BUT bottom rung wages
You're the very definition of an entitled asshole who believes that the world owes you a wage. Grow up, get a trade, become a truck driver. If those are the "only jobs available" do what my parents and grandparents did: MOVE. Most often selling all their possessions(minus photographs) along the way to get from one side of the country to the other.
Why do you say retail was never meant to be a career?
Because it wasn't. If you aspired to be a manager, that was a career. Being a cashier? Not a career, that's a part-time job. Being a butcher for the store? Career. Being a stockboy? Not a career.
8 Million people are cashiers or retail sales, that's what, 6% of the workforce? all of those are supposed to be transient jobs?
And almost all of those are part-time jobs, with a few fulltime positions where a person also has some type of manager overflow position. So yes, those are all transient jobs.
So tell me, what's it like knowing you're promoting a lie because something hurt your feelings? Right. You've been proven wrong, but it hurts you so much to admit that you fucked up and can't admit it. Talk about pathetic.
Arguably much better. Walmart pays bottom rung wages
Seriously, stop with the bullshit on that one. Walmart pays over the minimum wage always has whether the state min. wage is $5 and they pay $7.50, or the province wage is $10.50 and they pay $13 they've always done that. Keep in mind that working at a big-box store was never meant to be a career, but rather something to help you along the path. Much like the current hipster whining that they can't survive with their gender studies degrees and working at starbucks.
You understand that an organisation doesn't automatically adopt the political leanings of its leaders, right?
This coming from the person who claims that gamergate is a harassment organization because of 3rd party trolls. The literal irony is so fucking palpable.
It's a shit explanation in the first place, having read their theory data they've ignored the methods of policing and criminology beliefs that were long-held. The police officers weren't straightened out by the feds, it's a shift in policing as old police officers retire and newer policing methods come into play. The US is around 20 years behind community oriented policing compared to other western countries. COP is based on "ground level" officers doing what needs to be done without oversight of someone higher up the chain. Rather then "down on high" telling the ground level how to deal with a problem.
ex: You have a gang problem and a drug problem. The old method is to crack down on both, arrest everybody especially pushers. Fuck everyone, they're all going to jail. COP would pick the pushers and the people without jobs out, make them informants, get the people higher up the chain and break the gang. Officers would also create and push opportunities for the low level people into actual jobs instead of crime, whether it be getting them to build their own businesses and gentrifying the area, or helping them pass under the bar for military service.
Considering that republicans have lowered the bar for being a communist to "supports universal healthcare", then yes, I guess most of the USA is probably communist.
Considering that democrats have lowered the bar for being a nazi to "anyone who supports the 1st amendment or gun rights", then yes, I guess most of the USA is probably nazi's.
"They" don't claim anything. Fake troll twitter accounts claim things. What part about this aren't you understanding?
What part of get off your ass and ask them in the streets aren't you understanding with this? Many of them absolutely do claim those things, hell you can even find indie journos like Tim Pool who were doxed and harassed by antifa for bringing this to light. The german state didn't shut down indymedia in a vacuum.
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Those laws are not used to censor.
Tell that to the people who've been charged with hate speech after being raped because she called her rapist a bad name. What didn't hear about that one? How about where thousands of girls were raped and used as sex slaves, but the police didn't do anything for fear of being labeled racist and even went as far as to threaten the families with prosecution if they said anything.
Europeans have good reasons to see hate speech differently than we do in America. If Adolph Hitler had been muzzled early on millions of lives would have been saved.
Really? You mean the fact that the winners of WWI basically pissing on Germany had nothing to do with it? Or are you trying to say that if you censor views and ignore the issues they bring up you're making society better. I mean it's sure working well in the UK isn't it. Where the 13yr old rape victim was arrested and charged with hate speech because she called the muslim who raped her a bad name. Or the councils and government dry washing their hands for fear of being labeled 'racist' with all those "asian grooming gangs" and threatening people who want them charged and arrested.
Yep...that's not going to backfire at all...not a single bit..
Children tend to have a hard time distinguishing fantasy from reality.
Correction: Poorly raised children and children who are raised without parental oversight have a hard time distinguishing fantasy from reality. Which would also explain the hordes of adults that screech over violent video games/movies and how they're harming children. Or how violent video games/movies are causing gun shootings/stabbings/etc. You'll find that the young kids who can tell the difference between "right and wrong" before say 6, are the same ones who have a strong sense of self and can tell the difference between the two even now. And you'll find the kids who were entering puberty and still hadn't figured it out, still have a shaky grasp of it today as adults.
Most people on /. are desensitized to fake violence. You can see that decapitation of someone in a movie and know it's fake. Real violence? That real human suffering? Most people have never worked with EMS or police at a fatality where you can smell the blood in the air and the metallic taste in your mouth, the pounding right down to your toes and fingernails as fight or flight kicks in. There's a real difference between the two. There's also a real reason why people who do it all the time have a dark sense of humor(aka trench humor), it's one of the ways they cope with it.
Your aggressive naivete is showing.
It still is. Your ignorance of popular and non-popular culture is astounding.
"Nazism" Where a cartoon frog is nazism. This is why you lost, this is why people laugh at progressives. It's why the DNC is now in a civil war between progressives, liberals and socjus and in a fight for it's life.
Just keep digging.
Progressives really like "hate speech" laws. It makes it easier to censor people, you know, just like what is happening in Europe.
It's Ontario, we've got no shortage of it. The only reason we don't supply as much as we used to is because the mines were outpriced by cheaper mines in 3rd world countries. Ontario was up until the 1960's the largest producer in the world of high-grade nickle ore. Hell search the "ontario ring of fire" it's the remains of a metor impact, chalk full of RE's, cobalt, magnesium, well pretty much everything except bauxite. The current government(provincial liberals) have been wringing their hands over the resource extraction for over a decade with companies lined up and out the door to build mines there.
Why you might ask? Because they'd rather have a service based economy and not a manufacturing/extraction based economy and have gone out of their way to fuck it all up. The number of companies that have fled to NY or MI to avoid high electricity prices and taxes is staggering. Hell, even with the price of high-grade steel rising the mills sitting in Hamilton wouldn't reopen because the costs are too high.
So if I'm in law enforcement in Canada, I could say I have a magic device that detects corruption, point fingers, and then people just have to deal with it?
Meanwhile in the USA people are able to scrutinize breathalyzers and challenge their validity in court?
No. You don't have to deal with it, they still have to prove that it's admissible. That it follows the chain of evidence, and turn over all the information to the defense so you can build your case. In Canada you can challenge the validity of all those, and radar guns in cop cars and everything else too.
In Canada however, the CEA(evidence act) allows the redaction of information if it would allow criminals to figure out a way to beat it. On the other hand, this can be used by a defense attorney to argue that they haven't received full disclosure in turn their client hasn't received a fair trial.
This will likely end up heading to the supreme court, this was only a provincial court(still federal though). If you read the article, you can see that there's multiple cases where charges have been stayed because the police refused to disclose this information. No disclosure to the defense = no possibility to actually convict.
So what it means is that the court, evidence, and crowns offices are working properly. You're still getting a fair trial and all the rest.
You are addressing the wrong problem. Storing the data is not the problem. Scanning it is. Loading thousands or millions of pages into a scanner is a mostly manual process. Who is going to pay for that? Not me.
Scanning isn't a problem, not a problem at all. When I was out in AB a few years ago on vacation I got bored and digitized a towns historical records, council meetings, town liens, etc. There was around 80 years worth of the stuff, upwards of 140k pages worth of documents. With the in-office photocopier, I got all that done in around 2 weeks. Most of the pages were in a non-standard format as well usually 9x14" or 8.5x20" sheets. The only real problems were with odd-ball sized stuff like 2.5x11" stuff which had to be manually scanned otherwise it would jam the machine. Final payout was just under $7k for my time and effort. Even at that, everything could be stored on a single 60GB flash drive.
There was a big push out in western canada to do this a few years ago after the wildfires that wiped out several towns and cities. It's absolutely doable and has been for years. They just didn't want to layout the money to do it and now they can enjoy the fruits of their inaction.
3. I wonder if you're just another baby-raping Nazi like many of the Gamergate fuckturnips?
Sorry, that label is currently being held by anti-gamergate individuals and hollywood. Also members of the media who are rotting in the ground in the UK.
1. If you meant "a typical male..." the hyphen destroys your meaning.
US english, isn't the only version of english around.
2. If you meant "atypical" that means the opposite of what you intended.
See point 1.
The FBI investigation includes confessions of those behind GamerGate.
You mean the 13 year old kid who had no connections to gamergate that you're trying to claim that was part of gamergate? I guess that makes things easy, you can go read the document dump anytime you want. Then that other guy you're talking about who was the 3rd party troll? Who also stated they weren't part of gamergate and did it because they wanted to get a rise out of both sides? You might want to actually get off your ass and read the entire thing instead of relying on an excerpt. There's critical context missing form that.
Seems to me you're doing a great job of showing that you can't even read a document, let alone stand it. You don't think women need to be coddled? That seems to go fully against your own reasoning on multiple occasions.
You could at least apologise for suggesting I might be a rapist though. I'm all for robust, open debate but that was just nasty and uncalled for.
I'm holding you, to your standards. "Listen and believe." There's a point to it, and if you think on it you'll have figured it out. If on the other hand you haven't, I can explain it to you.
Wait wait wait... The "old media" are far left activists? You mean like the Daily Mail and Fox News?
You man CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC(and ABC AUS) Guardian, CBC, CTV, Global, Globe and Mail, NYT, Washington Post, USA Today? Boy oh boy, we got 2 vs all of those other ones. Well actually 3, because you forgot to rail against breitbart.
The Federal Liberals are likely far more scared considering what's happening in provincial politics right now. The largest voting block is Ontario, and the provincial liberals are polling at 11% vs Conservatives at 33% and the NDP at 20%. The policies of the provincial liberals(green energy boon dongle, massive corruption, sanctuary city BS) and so on are pissing people off. Round that out with Trudeaus "oh we'll take the illegals..." really pissed people off. The last time 80% of Canadians agreed on polling over anything was with hockey. And the vast majority are pissed off over all of these illegals getting free shit, while they're kicking single mothers and fathers out of hotels and onto the street.
Most places in Canada already have a 4 year backlog for low-income housing. In my area of Ontario is 6.5 years. People don't mind the government giving assistance, but they want it to goto actual citizens first.
Wait, you have definitive evidence that it was 3rd party trolls? You can refute the IRC logs and all the other evidence? Please share.
Considering the fbi investigation states as much, and those IRC logs have been disputed as fully taken out of context by Quinn? Yes. That's on top of all of those big name anti-GG people who were caught doxing people, along with people in CON itself who doxed people.
Also, fuck you. Seriously, this is a new low.
Considering you're displaying the same pattern of behavior? It wouldn't surprise me. After all, you seem to believe women need to be coddled. Just like all those other allies do.
The crime reporting rate is higher than for crimes by Germans, and the immigrant camps are stratified by immigration eligibility with only overbearing environmental influences breaking the trend of non-violence for immigration.
Your article and you are missing something critical. When you apply and are accepted for immigration status(application accepted), you automatically become a german in the crime statistics. If you're applying, you are still labeled as an immigrant. And now you learn how to easily massage criminal statistics.
You are a cunt if you think those are anything BUT bottom rung wages
You're the very definition of an entitled asshole who believes that the world owes you a wage. Grow up, get a trade, become a truck driver. If those are the "only jobs available" do what my parents and grandparents did: MOVE. Most often selling all their possessions(minus photographs) along the way to get from one side of the country to the other.
Why do you say retail was never meant to be a career?
Because it wasn't. If you aspired to be a manager, that was a career. Being a cashier? Not a career, that's a part-time job. Being a butcher for the store? Career. Being a stockboy? Not a career.
8 Million people are cashiers or retail sales, that's what, 6% of the workforce? all of those are supposed to be transient jobs?
And almost all of those are part-time jobs, with a few fulltime positions where a person also has some type of manager overflow position. So yes, those are all transient jobs.
So they can market adult diapers and ensure to you of course.
LOL still buthurt about that huh?
So tell me, what's it like knowing you're promoting a lie because something hurt your feelings? Right. You've been proven wrong, but it hurts you so much to admit that you fucked up and can't admit it. Talk about pathetic.
It also makes me wonder if you're just like the a-typical male feminist ally, who actually turns out to be an abuser of women and was just projecting the entire time. Guess time will tell on that one, just like all those other people including the current meltdown of neogaf.
Arguably much better. Walmart pays bottom rung wages
Seriously, stop with the bullshit on that one. Walmart pays over the minimum wage always has whether the state min. wage is $5 and they pay $7.50, or the province wage is $10.50 and they pay $13 they've always done that. Keep in mind that working at a big-box store was never meant to be a career, but rather something to help you along the path. Much like the current hipster whining that they can't survive with their gender studies degrees and working at starbucks.
You understand that an organisation doesn't automatically adopt the political leanings of its leaders, right?
This coming from the person who claims that gamergate is a harassment organization because of 3rd party trolls. The literal irony is so fucking palpable.
It's a shit explanation in the first place, having read their theory data they've ignored the methods of policing and criminology beliefs that were long-held. The police officers weren't straightened out by the feds, it's a shift in policing as old police officers retire and newer policing methods come into play. The US is around 20 years behind community oriented policing compared to other western countries. COP is based on "ground level" officers doing what needs to be done without oversight of someone higher up the chain. Rather then "down on high" telling the ground level how to deal with a problem.
ex: You have a gang problem and a drug problem. The old method is to crack down on both, arrest everybody especially pushers. Fuck everyone, they're all going to jail. COP would pick the pushers and the people without jobs out, make them informants, get the people higher up the chain and break the gang. Officers would also create and push opportunities for the low level people into actual jobs instead of crime, whether it be getting them to build their own businesses and gentrifying the area, or helping them pass under the bar for military service.
Considering that republicans have lowered the bar for being a communist to "supports universal healthcare", then yes, I guess most of the USA is probably communist.
Considering that democrats have lowered the bar for being a nazi to "anyone who supports the 1st amendment or gun rights", then yes, I guess most of the USA is probably nazi's.
Do you see how stupid your reasoning is?
"They" don't claim anything. Fake troll twitter accounts claim things. What part about this aren't you understanding?
What part of get off your ass and ask them in the streets aren't you understanding with this? Many of them absolutely do claim those things, hell you can even find indie journos like Tim Pool who were doxed and harassed by antifa for bringing this to light. The german state didn't shut down indymedia in a vacuum.
No, it's all Russia's fault. Or Martians. Or the KKK... That's the only reason Trump won.
I hope martians. It would mean that there's intelligent life in the universe.