Reminder that rampant anti-nuke and environmental protests are the cause of a lot of these problems. There were decades of anti-nuclear protests in japan against even upgrading safety mechanism because it would require a shutdown and restart of the reactors. Sometimes these went through irregardless because the courts refused to hear the lawsuits, in other cases they were tied up in lawsuits. Some plant safety upgrades for Kashiwazaki-Kariwa are still stuck in courts. The anti-nuke stance is nothing like what people in the west see in the media, it's rabid. Environmental impact studies, nimby, environmental protests have done far more damage to build new nuclear power plants. Despite that, S.Korea and Canada are able to operate their reactors, turn a profit, and include the cost of refurbishment after 25yrs in the reactors life cycle.
Did you try looking at the links in the article itself? Those are taken directly form mainstream sources. Or you can read wapo, which comes out defending their violence because civil rights.
So you're trying to argue they're protesting against one type of supremicism, but not others. Gee, seems to me that belonging to an ideology that's killed 80m people in the last 100 years vs less then 15m wouldn't be a great thing to promote, but what do I know.
Unless Reddit is the gubmint, "free speech" is out of context.
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Compare the charlottesville vs barcelona. The first case, the media is trying to claim that it's "domestic terrorism." In the second case, they're claiming that it's a "van crash" while avoiding using the word terrorism as best as possible.
They openly advocate violence, they've openly called whites sub-human. That right up makes them black supremacists, and no different then any other racist. Pretend all you want that what those links show are fairy tails, there's a reason why their support evaporated like morning dew.
Leftists engaging in identity politics, using violent imagery which supports attacking a race of people(whites). That picture shows exactly what it means. They're no different then any other racist.
You're right, they said far worse. Like saying all "white people are sub-human" I've heard that before...coming from black supremacists. Very uh...diverse, so progressive. Gee, they're just like Margaret Sanger and her belief that blacks were sub-human need to be culled, and the perfect way to do that was via planned parenthood. Never mind her pro-eugenics stance or anything...
Clinton was right then, and HAD CONSERVATIVES HEEDED HER WARNING we'd not be in the horrific situation of having a President who panders to, and gives power, to Neo-Nazis, and who is in probability one himself.
You didn't even listen to him when he blamed both sides for the violence did you. You're so heavily invested in identity politics that you're willing to swallow whatever bullshit is shoved down your throat. You also likely believe that antifa is really the good guys, and really aren't just racists on the left.
No wikipedia does not. It contains no objective sources, the page is camped by people pushing an agenda, the sources that it uses hold no objective facts either. The entire article itself is a giant editwar just like the gamergate page. This is kinda funny coming from a person who said that even if something was proven as false, you wouldn't believe it regardless.
And no, the alt-right isn't the far right, anymore then a liberal is a SJW, or progressive. For someone from the UK, you understand so little about US politics though it's almost funny. You could do well to spend a decade in Canada and watching it in action.
Of course it doesn't, and sometimes it actually get's worse. Like in this picture here(SFW). Just remember it the next time someone claims that antifa really aren't bad guys and they really are fighting fascists.
So what's suddenly made you change your mind? The other day you were espousing that words are violence. Does that now make you a neo-nazi? After all, they have a right to speech something that you were arguing against.
action and google's and godaddy's, etc. just remember your position on this when GoHillary.com or BlackLivesMatter.org is taken down because the sites allow "hate speech" to be posted.
Goes far beyond this. The "antifascist" parade has wanted to go after Thomas Jefferson for a while now. This is the shit you're supporting when you think that removing those statues is a good idea, when blocking speech because it hurts your feelings. The slippery slope is already in action, and I can't wait to see the people trying to justify this. Yep, we're entering that new shiny era of antifascism already, where antifascists are the actual fascists and it escapes them.
So you criticize the OP because of a belief in an alt-right boogeyman, and then label him as part of the "elitist leftist" boogeyman?
He's the one who claimed that they're a progressive, pro-eu, anti-etc. That's not a bogyman, those are their own labels, and belonging to the same group of people that will turn around happily and say "the reason we're not winning, is because the people are dumb." I'm holding him to his standards, not mine.
Polling after the election did not find significant number of swing voters who voted Trump because of identity politics.
Ah yeah, about that...I'll have to find the article again, it was published in the last week. But it showed that around 16-20% of registered democrats flipped to Trump. As it stands right now, Trumps chances of winning simply running off the economy would win him a second term, but we're still 3ish years away from that. And as it stands, the left are so fundamentally fractured that even when they're spending opponents at 2.5:1 ratios they're not winning, they're barely coming close.
You pretend that "fuck you" is the same as "all jews should die and here is how it should be done." You are the one equating yelling in someone's face with running them over with a car. One is not like the other.
That certainly shows the other side in a less forgiving light.... And let's not pretend that this video is the standard chain of events. The whole reason we have this news post from the beginning is that someone decided those protests were worth killing over.
Go watch any protest at the start where there is some "anti" group protesting and you'll see something similar. Hell even Jordan Peterson experienced in Toronto when he was speaking in public. This isn't an uncommon occurrence by the left, it's standard operating procedure. That was Canada. This is in the US, and you can find plenty of other examples.
Looks pretty peaceful to me.... Isn't this the kind of protest you spend hours on here defending?
You mean the part where people were yelling, getting right into his face is peaceful? No wonder you're perfectly fine with this as they are.
So, since we're convicting without a trial. I'm sure that you're going to be shaming those anti-confederate protesters for their violence right? After all, holding you to your standard: Words are violence.
Stop calling everything you don't agree with Fascist.
Oh come on now it's obviously fascist. I mean, just look at these very peaceful anti-confederate protesters and that fascist chubby kid. Doesn't it look like they not going to do him any harm? I mean, it's right to the point where even the cops are having enough of this bullshit.
You continue to show you have no idea what's actually going on, and believe in the bogyman that is the "alt-right" was what elected Trump. Just like how you think a cartoon frog is racist, or the kekistani flag is nazism -- instead of mocking your belief in identity politics. Your understanding of the political situation is at a point where democrats voted for Trump, and it was a warning shot across the bow of the establishment.
You know what this will be for Trump? Likely nothing. Just like how the "Trump was elected by Russia" story has been dead in the water for the last week and a half. The average person has seen race relations in the US degrade under Obama, severely degrade. Your average white, asian, etc., sees a push back by those people on the right. After years of groups like BLM, bamn, and so on attacking people. You don't think that your average working class asian would align with the right, after years of being a minority but "not the right kind of minority" by the left? You think it was any surprise that so many people supported the arrest and prosecution of the people who pulled down that confederate statue yesterday?
You're stuck in the same elitist bubble that many democrats are. The same bubble that will label people as race traitors, uncle toms, house n*iggers, and so on if they dare to walk off the plantation and make their own choices. And daring to look beyond their skin colour/race/sex/etc.
Changed when social justice advocates and progressives decided that "you also deserve to have the consequences of it" as a standard manifesto, and started to attack people, go after their employment, and so on. They don't believe in that statement, they only believe that "proper speech" that they deem acceptable is the limit. Otherwise you wouldn't see them cheering in support of things like this. Or things like this.
I'm sure someone will go but...the right. And yes, they sure have started doing that. They took it right from your playbook, you know the one. Rules for Radicals, hope you're enjoying them invoking rule #4: "Make them live up to their own standards."
Antifa are an actual group. You can find chapters of them all over europe, canada, they've been spreading in the US for at least 3 years. They're no different then american-centric versions like BAMN(by any means necessary), they run in the same circles. Claiming to be anti-fascist, pro-communist/lennin/marxist/or some mix. If you think it's a virtue signal, then you apparently missed the berkeley riots, which was the handywork of bamn and antifa.
In other words: You either live a very sheltered life, or are a shill.
Progressives and SJW's have already started attacking people for daring to have views and opinions that they disagree with over Charlottesville. So enjoy that slippery slope, it's gonna get worse before it get's better. Especially with Google, Facebook, twitter et.al., deciding "what's acceptable" and "what's offensive speech" in their book. And it's likely not going to end, if the left continue to escalate with their attacks in the meatspace either by destruction of statues, vandalism and so on.
The alt-right is made up of several different sub-groups
No, the alt-right is made up of the alt-right. Otherwise, you belong to antifa, bamn, and violent communists. Identity politics is cancer, and every time you promote it, you spread that cancer just a little bit more.
You should probably go look at the actual crime statistics then. Because while they're at lows, especially violent crime in many places. They are going back up, some places are now worse then they were during the 1970 oil crash, or the crack-cocaine epidemic in the US. Hell even here in Canada, while crime is down in many places in others it's going through the roof in others. A good example would be Ottawa, which has had 12 shootings last year...which were surpassed last month. Toronto? Same. More shooting in the same period in half a year. More assaults, more stabbings, more theft over $1k, more violent robberies, more violent robberies with firearms.
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Reminder that rampant anti-nuke and environmental protests are the cause of a lot of these problems. There were decades of anti-nuclear protests in japan against even upgrading safety mechanism because it would require a shutdown and restart of the reactors. Sometimes these went through irregardless because the courts refused to hear the lawsuits, in other cases they were tied up in lawsuits. Some plant safety upgrades for Kashiwazaki-Kariwa are still stuck in courts. The anti-nuke stance is nothing like what people in the west see in the media, it's rabid. Environmental impact studies, nimby, environmental protests have done far more damage to build new nuclear power plants. Despite that, S.Korea and Canada are able to operate their reactors, turn a profit, and include the cost of refurbishment after 25yrs in the reactors life cycle.
Did you try looking at the links in the article itself? Those are taken directly form mainstream sources. Or you can read wapo, which comes out defending their violence because civil rights.
They're against nazis and other white pride types
So you're trying to argue they're protesting against one type of supremicism, but not others. Gee, seems to me that belonging to an ideology that's killed 80m people in the last 100 years vs less then 15m wouldn't be a great thing to promote, but what do I know.
Unless Reddit is the gubmint, "free speech" is out of context.
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Compare the charlottesville vs barcelona. The first case, the media is trying to claim that it's "domestic terrorism." In the second case, they're claiming that it's a "van crash" while avoiding using the word terrorism as best as possible.
They openly advocate violence, they've openly called whites sub-human. That right up makes them black supremacists, and no different then any other racist. Pretend all you want that what those links show are fairy tails, there's a reason why their support evaporated like morning dew.
That picture doesn't show what you think it does.
Leftists engaging in identity politics, using violent imagery which supports attacking a race of people(whites). That picture shows exactly what it means. They're no different then any other racist.
BLM has never said anything of the sort.
You're right, they said far worse. Like saying all "white people are sub-human" I've heard that before...coming from black supremacists. Very uh...diverse, so progressive. Gee, they're just like Margaret Sanger and her belief that blacks were sub-human need to be culled, and the perfect way to do that was via planned parenthood. Never mind her pro-eugenics stance or anything...
Clinton was right then, and HAD CONSERVATIVES HEEDED HER WARNING we'd not be in the horrific situation of having a President who panders to, and gives power, to Neo-Nazis, and who is in probability one himself.
You didn't even listen to him when he blamed both sides for the violence did you. You're so heavily invested in identity politics that you're willing to swallow whatever bullshit is shoved down your throat. You also likely believe that antifa is really the good guys, and really aren't just racists on the left.
No wikipedia does not. It contains no objective sources, the page is camped by people pushing an agenda, the sources that it uses hold no objective facts either. The entire article itself is a giant editwar just like the gamergate page. This is kinda funny coming from a person who said that even if something was proven as false, you wouldn't believe it regardless.
And no, the alt-right isn't the far right, anymore then a liberal is a SJW, or progressive. For someone from the UK, you understand so little about US politics though it's almost funny. You could do well to spend a decade in Canada and watching it in action.
The madness doesn't end.
Of course it doesn't, and sometimes it actually get's worse. Like in this picture here(SFW). Just remember it the next time someone claims that antifa really aren't bad guys and they really are fighting fascists.
So what's suddenly made you change your mind? The other day you were espousing that words are violence. Does that now make you a neo-nazi? After all, they have a right to speech something that you were arguing against.
action and google's and godaddy's, etc. just remember your position on this when GoHillary.com or BlackLivesMatter.org is taken down because the sites allow "hate speech" to be posted.
Goes far beyond this. The "antifascist" parade has wanted to go after Thomas Jefferson for a while now. This is the shit you're supporting when you think that removing those statues is a good idea, when blocking speech because it hurts your feelings. The slippery slope is already in action, and I can't wait to see the people trying to justify this. Yep, we're entering that new shiny era of antifascism already, where antifascists are the actual fascists and it escapes them.
So you criticize the OP because of a belief in an alt-right boogeyman, and then label him as part of the "elitist leftist" boogeyman?
He's the one who claimed that they're a progressive, pro-eu, anti-etc. That's not a bogyman, those are their own labels, and belonging to the same group of people that will turn around happily and say "the reason we're not winning, is because the people are dumb." I'm holding him to his standards, not mine.
Polling after the election did not find significant number of swing voters who voted Trump because of identity politics.
Ah yeah, about that...I'll have to find the article again, it was published in the last week. But it showed that around 16-20% of registered democrats flipped to Trump. As it stands right now, Trumps chances of winning simply running off the economy would win him a second term, but we're still 3ish years away from that. And as it stands, the left are so fundamentally fractured that even when they're spending opponents at 2.5:1 ratios they're not winning, they're barely coming close.
You pretend that "fuck you" is the same as "all jews should die and here is how it should be done." You are the one equating yelling in someone's face with running them over with a car. One is not like the other.
I'm holding you to your standard.
That certainly shows the other side in a less forgiving light. ... And let's not pretend that this video is the standard chain of events. The whole reason we have this news post from the beginning is that someone decided those protests were worth killing over.
Go watch any protest at the start where there is some "anti" group protesting and you'll see something similar. Hell even Jordan Peterson experienced in Toronto when he was speaking in public. This isn't an uncommon occurrence by the left, it's standard operating procedure. That was Canada. This is in the US, and you can find plenty of other examples.
Looks pretty peaceful to me. ... Isn't this the kind of protest you spend hours on here defending?
You mean the part where people were yelling, getting right into his face is peaceful? No wonder you're perfectly fine with this as they are.
So, since we're convicting without a trial. I'm sure that you're going to be shaming those anti-confederate protesters for their violence right? After all, holding you to your standard: Words are violence.
Stop calling everything you don't agree with Fascist.
Oh come on now it's obviously fascist. I mean, just look at these very peaceful anti-confederate protesters and that fascist chubby kid. Doesn't it look like they not going to do him any harm? I mean, it's right to the point where even the cops are having enough of this bullshit.
You continue to show you have no idea what's actually going on, and believe in the bogyman that is the "alt-right" was what elected Trump. Just like how you think a cartoon frog is racist, or the kekistani flag is nazism -- instead of mocking your belief in identity politics. Your understanding of the political situation is at a point where democrats voted for Trump, and it was a warning shot across the bow of the establishment.
You know what this will be for Trump? Likely nothing. Just like how the "Trump was elected by Russia" story has been dead in the water for the last week and a half. The average person has seen race relations in the US degrade under Obama, severely degrade. Your average white, asian, etc., sees a push back by those people on the right. After years of groups like BLM, bamn, and so on attacking people. You don't think that your average working class asian would align with the right, after years of being a minority but "not the right kind of minority" by the left? You think it was any surprise that so many people supported the arrest and prosecution of the people who pulled down that confederate statue yesterday?
You're stuck in the same elitist bubble that many democrats are. The same bubble that will label people as race traitors, uncle toms, house n*iggers, and so on if they dare to walk off the plantation and make their own choices. And daring to look beyond their skin colour/race/sex/etc.
Changed when social justice advocates and progressives decided that "you also deserve to have the consequences of it" as a standard manifesto, and started to attack people, go after their employment, and so on. They don't believe in that statement, they only believe that "proper speech" that they deem acceptable is the limit. Otherwise you wouldn't see them cheering in support of things like this. Or things like this.
I'm sure someone will go but...the right. And yes, they sure have started doing that. They took it right from your playbook, you know the one. Rules for Radicals, hope you're enjoying them invoking rule #4: "Make them live up to their own standards."
Antifa are an actual group. You can find chapters of them all over europe, canada, they've been spreading in the US for at least 3 years. They're no different then american-centric versions like BAMN(by any means necessary), they run in the same circles. Claiming to be anti-fascist, pro-communist/lennin/marxist/or some mix. If you think it's a virtue signal, then you apparently missed the berkeley riots, which was the handywork of bamn and antifa.
In other words: You either live a very sheltered life, or are a shill.
Progressives and SJW's have already started attacking people for daring to have views and opinions that they disagree with over Charlottesville. So enjoy that slippery slope, it's gonna get worse before it get's better. Especially with Google, Facebook, twitter et.al., deciding "what's acceptable" and "what's offensive speech" in their book. And it's likely not going to end, if the left continue to escalate with their attacks in the meatspace either by destruction of statues, vandalism and so on.
The site actively promotes genocide.
Shall we count the "put them in ovens" quotes over at the Daily Stormer?
That doesn't even reach the limitus test here in Canada, and we have hate speech laws on the books. All you're arguing for is suppression of speech.
The alt-right is made up of several different sub-groups
No, the alt-right is made up of the alt-right. Otherwise, you belong to antifa, bamn, and violent communists. Identity politics is cancer, and every time you promote it, you spread that cancer just a little bit more.
You should probably go look at the actual crime statistics then. Because while they're at lows, especially violent crime in many places. They are going back up, some places are now worse then they were during the 1970 oil crash, or the crack-cocaine epidemic in the US. Hell even here in Canada, while crime is down in many places in others it's going through the roof in others. A good example would be Ottawa, which has had 12 shootings last year...which were surpassed last month. Toronto? Same. More shooting in the same period in half a year. More assaults, more stabbings, more theft over $1k, more violent robberies, more violent robberies with firearms.
I prefer to think of it more like after the war when the winning side tore down all the nazi statues. Seems like a more apt comparison.
Really? So you're saying that fascism won. Gee no wonder people are protesting their destruction, and those who are against law and order.