My first program, way back in 1981 or 1982 was just such a program. It printed "Login:" "Password:" and returned "Incorrect Password", writing out the collected info to a file. Worked amazingly well, for it's simplicity - I had most everybody's password within a couple of days, even the computer teacher's.
Not a particularly original or clever hack, but it served the purpose, even way back when on an ancient printer terminal... (Yes, Mrs. Fredericks, if you're reading this somehow, I was "PIGDOG". Sorry for that...)
Actually, I agree - I made the mistake of Googling for the list and came up with someone's modified list. (And failed to read it before posting) I first saw that feature years ago, back when I used to use emacs, but since then I have switched to vi and don't even install emacs any more. The original list was a bit better, though now really dated. I thought the whole idea of inserting keywords was a bit useless back then, but mildly amusing.
...still in emacs, anyway. (Standard M-X Spook word list follows) Go ahead, put the whole list in your sig. Cheers, Jim
$400 million 1 October 15 May 17 November 3rd October ACLU ADF AES AIDS AIIB AK-47 ALIR ANO ARD ARN ASALA ASG Abu Nidal Abu Sayyaf Aceh Merdeka Aden-Abyan Ahl-e-Hadees Air Force One Al-Fatah Al-`Asifa Alamo Albanian Alex Boncayao Brigade Alliance of Eritrean National Force Alliance pour la resistance democratique Allied Democratic Forces American American Airlines Amn Araissi Arab Revolutionary Brigades Arab Revolutionary Council Area 51 Aum Shinrikyo Aum Supreme Truth Avtomat Kalasnikov BATF Babbar Khalsa Baghdad Berlin Bhinderanwala Tiger Force Black September Brigate Rosse CIA CIRA CNDD CNRM CNRT Catholic Reaction Force China Chukaku-Ha Clinton Cocaine Communist Conseil Cuba DES DFLP DNA Dal Khalsa Dayak Delta Airlines Delta Force Dev Sol Devrimci Sol EFF ELF-RC ESSA EZLN Eastern Shan State Army Eiffel Tower Ejercito Popular Boricua Ejercito Popular Revolucionario Ellalan Force Eritrean Euzkadi Ta Askatasuna FALINA FALINTIL FALN FBI FMLN FRETILIN FROLINA FSF Farabundo Marti Fatah Force 17 Free Aceh Ft. Bragg Ft. Meade GIA GRAPO George Bush George W Bush Gerakin Aceh Merdeka Grey Wolves HAMAS Harakat ul-Ansar Hawari Hitler Hizb-i Wahdat Hizb-i-Islami Hizb-ul-Mujahideen Hizballah Hizbullah Honduras ICBM IRA Ikhwan-ul-Mussalmin Interahamwe Iparretarrak Islamic Israel JKLF Jamaat ul-Fuqra Jamat-e-Islami Jamiat-e-Ahl-e-Hadees KGB KKK Kach Kahane Chai Kashmir Kennedy Khaddafi Khalistan Khmer Rouge Komala Kosovo Kurdish Kurdistan Kuwait LSD LTTE La Cosa Nostra Lakshar-e-Taiba Lautaro Legion of Doom Lenin Les mongoles MAPU/L MD5 MI6 MILF MNLF Macheteros Macheteros Mafia Maktab al-Khidamat Manuel Rodriguez Marxist Maubere Resistance Mayi-Mayi Middle-Core Mohajir Qaumi Mong Tai Morazanist Mossad Mothaidda Quami Mujahedin-e Khalq Myanmar NORAD NSA Navy Nazi Nellis Range Noriega North Korea Oklahoma City Ortega Osama Bin Laden PALIPEHUTU PCP PGP PLO Pakistan Panama Pearl Harbor Peking Provos Qaddafi RC5 RDX RENAMO RSA Reno Romania Rule Psix SCUBA SDI SEAL Team 6 SHA SWAT Saddam Hussein Saheed Khalsa Scientology Semtex Serbian Shora-e-Jehad Sivi Vukovi South Africa Soviet Steyr Students of the Engineer TEMPEST TNT Tal Al Za'atar Talaa' al-Fateh Tamil Eelam Teamsters Terra Lliure Treasury Tupac Amaru U-235 US Airways Uzi Waco White House World Trade Center Zapatistas airframe airport al-Gama'at al-Islamiyya al-Jihad al-Qa'ida algorithm amatol ambush ambush ammo ammunition anonymous anti-tank archives armada armor armor-piercing arms arrangements assassinate assassination assassination assault atomic bomb bank account biological blowfish bomb bomb boobytrap border c4 camera carnivore charcoal chemical child pornography chinese class struggle claymore cocaine codebook colonel commando composition b conspiracy constitution cordite corporate corrupt council counter-intelligence crack-cocaine cracking cray credit card cryptographic czar d-day data haven defcon defenses democratie detcord detonate detonators dictionary disruption divers doctrine domestic doomsday double agent e-bola echelon efnet embassy embassy embassy empire encrypt enigma explosion explosive faction fertilizer fissionable flight 800 freedom freemasons genetic gold bullion government grenades guns hack harbor heroin hijack hostage hostages hydrogen bomb illuminati impulse incendiaries infiltration infosec infrastructure initiators insurgent intel international internet worm interpol jihad kamikazi kampuchea kibo kill kill kill kill launch codes lead azide lead styphante liberate liberation limousine lockpick loyalist main charge marijuana martyr maverick mercury fulminate microfiche microfilm minefield mines motorcade motorola mouvement munitions napalm nationalist nitric acid nitrocellulose nuclear oppressed orthodox password picric acid pipe-bomb plague platter charge plutonium plutonium policy political pre-teen president president primers private key propaganda psyops public key pulse detonation engine radar rail gun rebel rema
It rocks. I get sound quality indistinguishable from a land line, days of use on a charge and "pretty good" coverage, including just about everywhere I happen to go around Tokyo, including underground train stations and the top of Mt. Fuji. Plus, it's way cheaper.
It has pretty abysmal range, requiring a bunch of transceivers in a relatively small geographic area to get signal.
It's only being called WebDAV because there's a problem.;-)
Really, I always heard it called "Front Page Extensions" to the HTTP spec. (WebDav has always been the name I associated with the Apache version.) In all fairness, MS had it first and the OSS people adopted it. (IIRC - I may be wrong about this.)
In fact, it's one of two innovations that I respect from the MS folks - this and ODBC.
One caveat: I haven't used or looked at IIS in a few years, so they may have adopted WebDAV as the name, but my first thought was that they wanted to disassociate the problem a bit from their products like Front Page and IIS - PHBs will think that the problem is with the WebDAV protocol, not with the crappy MS implimentation, so Apache gets tarnished as well. (But of course, I am a paranoid net.kook and I see conspiracies everywhere.)
I remember reading about some Western architects who came here to study construction methods, especially the puzzle-like way that wooden beams are fitted together to create a temple roof. Their determination was that it was simply too complicated to be able to be reproduced in the west, as it took years of apprenticeship to learn how to cut and fit the joints.
Aside from the nifty temples, most Japanese architecture is crap. I live in an "old" building, built in the 1980's. No insulation, ugly from the outside.
Oh, and if you like that pre-war style with the tiled roofs, remember that many many people in the Kobe quake were killed by falling tiles.
Sometimes I think that Gojira stomped on Tokyo because he had good taste.
"Hello, [Mr. Smith], how is that [Polo Shirt] you bought? We have a sale on [Polo Shirts] this week on the [third] floor."
I had almost that very thing said to me once in a now long-gone Polo shop on Connecticut Ave in DC. Of course, way back then, it was called "Good Salesmanship" and didn't require any special technology, just awareness and consideration./FogeyRant
Cheers, Jim (who is old enough to remember a time before even barcodes.)
Anonymity? Yes, but that's just an illusion anyway. Anybody who wants to can gather as much information about you as his heart desires.
In my case, mostly by what I have chosen to make available. The biggest reason? I don't use credit cards. I buy a *lot* of stuff, but only use cash. (Having no debt is comforting, too.) In fact, probably the most extensive 'file' on my habits is at my video store. Since I don't rent porn, I think that's pretty innocuous. I don't even use those supermarket club cards, because of the tiny loss of privacy they cause.
For the record: how much money has Benetton gotten from you in the past? For myself, a few hundred bucks, at most. (Including the before-mentioned shirts with the cheap buttons.) I had a girlfriend who was crazy for their stuff, so I spent probably ~$2,000 there on her. (A good chunk of which was one *incredibly* ugly coat that she really wanted and then wore exactly twice, but that's another story...)
I know I'm a bit at the fringe on this topic, but it's something I care about.
And when all else fails, there is the microwave oven.
Yeah, right. I'm going to spend $75 on a shirt and then stick it in the microwave. (In my experience, the Benetton shirts I've had rarely survived a few trips to the dry cleaners without the buttons disintegrating. I doubt I'd be microwaving them...)
When the whole processor id thing was introduced way back when, people threw a big fit about it. Now what average Joe these days even know about it?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Intel drop that whole plan because of public outcry?
Big Brother will use your Visa bill to track you down, not these things, unless, of course, they store the RFIDs of your purchases and make it available to anyone. If OJ's isotoner gloves had these, he'd be in jail now. Take a look at how closely tied TRW, the credit report people, is to government and the defence industry, if you want to get a little paranoid
So we boycott the company just because they're using some new technology that everyone is afraid of. Early adopters often get the flak from public, but once everyone starts doing it, nobody cares!
No, because I feel it is an invasive technology that has the potential to cost you a bit of my freedom and anonymity.
When the RFID tag is smaller than a grain of rice, they can bury it in a product so that I lose the ability to decide for myself if I want to make this RFID information available to them or not.
As for everyone not caring, that's their business and their own choice. I do care and they won't be getting my money from now on.
That's all I stated in the above post - I'm not trying to start a boycott, I'm not saying that they don't have the right to use this technology, I'm just saying that I won't support it with my cash.
IMHO, their ability to track their clothing stops when I pay money and take ownership of it. I doubt they'll remove all the tags. I doubt consumers will know to. I already found a sweater of my girlfriend's with one. She had asked me to snip off a scratchy tag and lo and behold, sewn inside the tag was an RFID tag. (Ann Taylor sweater? Not sure, so I won't say for sure.) Either way, if she wore it back to the store, would she show up as a repeat customer and be treated differently?
I just don't trust these things, even though I know they are pretty benign, so don't try to convince me otherwise.
Or buy a bunch of engines, if they even needed to.
How much anthrax or ricin could 62.5 g of propellant carry? How much could a weather balloon carry?
Brings to mind the story about the kid who did scary radioactive stuff using legal items that contained trace elements of radioactive materials, such as smoke detectors and the wicks from Coleman lanterns.
Look at our major terrorist attacks: WTC - Box cutters. Oklahoma City - Manure and fuel.
In other words, where there's a will, there's a way.
How can I UN-subscribe, when I never subscribed in the first place?!?!?
If you haven't figured out, unsubscription is really just a confirmation that you exist.
Until you either reply or unsubscribe, they don't really know if they have a 'live' email or not, unless you're allowing html mails to access url-loaded external elements, such as gifs and other web bugs.
If you allow them to push the idea that what they do is OK until you object by unsubscribing, they have won critical ground. At that point, you are on the defensive. You will have to unsubscribe to every email spam that you receive.
Of course, then, they just re-sell your address and the whole cycle starts again.
I never agreed to an opt-out scheme. When I decide to opt-in, I'll let them know.
Do whatever it is that you do when faced with a deeply important and tragic event that hits to the very heart of any person with the soul of a scientist and the heart of a free-thinking person, yet is still caring and considerate enough to put aside your overly politically-correct knee-jerk reactions and feel actual sympathy for another human.
A few ideas to consider before slamming me with your "Overrated" mods:
Prayer is not always to God.
People believe in many different gods. Or none. That's what makes us interesting.
Sometimes people just pray.
There is *nothing* wrong with praying, despite what "Anton LeVey" said. Prayer is often a precursur to real action - it makes you consider things carefully.
You may be wrong about a great many things.
I am not religious and I rarely ever pray, but I did today for these lost scientists. If you can't deal with that, go fuck yourself.
I am rarely surprised by the shallowness and insensitivity of people. I sure was today.
Ok, now feel free to mod this comment down and out of sight.
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Books in libraries vs. bookstores.
Same deal for hundreds of years now, yet both survive.
Cheers,
Jim
My first program, way back in 1981 or 1982 was just such a program.
It printed "Login:" "Password:" and returned "Incorrect Password", writing out the collected info to a file.
Worked amazingly well, for it's simplicity - I had most everybody's password within a couple of days, even the computer teacher's.
Not a particularly original or clever hack, but it served the purpose, even way back when on an ancient printer terminal...
(Yes, Mrs. Fredericks, if you're reading this somehow, I was "PIGDOG". Sorry for that...)
Cheers,
Jim
Actually, I agree -
I made the mistake of Googling for the list and came up with someone's modified list. (And failed to read it before posting)
I first saw that feature years ago, back when I used to use emacs, but since then I have switched to vi and don't even install emacs any more.
The original list was a bit better, though now really dated.
I thought the whole idea of inserting keywords was a bit useless back then, but mildly amusing.
...still in emacs, anyway.
(Standard M-X Spook word list follows)
Go ahead, put the whole list in your sig.
Cheers,
Jim
$400 million 1 October 15 May 17 November 3rd October ACLU ADF AES AIDS AIIB AK-47 ALIR ANO ARD ARN ASALA ASG Abu Nidal Abu Sayyaf Aceh Merdeka Aden-Abyan Ahl-e-Hadees Air Force One Al-Fatah Al-`Asifa Alamo Albanian Alex Boncayao Brigade Alliance of Eritrean National Force Alliance pour la resistance democratique Allied Democratic Forces American American Airlines Amn Araissi Arab Revolutionary Brigades Arab Revolutionary Council Area 51 Aum Shinrikyo Aum Supreme Truth Avtomat Kalasnikov BATF Babbar Khalsa Baghdad Berlin Bhinderanwala Tiger Force Black September Brigate Rosse CIA CIRA CNDD CNRM CNRT Catholic Reaction Force China Chukaku-Ha Clinton Cocaine Communist Conseil Cuba DES DFLP DNA Dal Khalsa Dayak Delta Airlines Delta Force Dev Sol Devrimci Sol EFF ELF-RC ESSA EZLN Eastern Shan State Army Eiffel Tower Ejercito Popular Boricua Ejercito Popular Revolucionario Ellalan Force Eritrean Euzkadi Ta Askatasuna FALINA FALINTIL FALN FBI FMLN FRETILIN FROLINA FSF Farabundo Marti Fatah Force 17 Free Aceh Ft. Bragg Ft. Meade GIA GRAPO George Bush George W Bush Gerakin Aceh Merdeka Grey Wolves HAMAS Harakat ul-Ansar Hawari Hitler Hizb-i Wahdat Hizb-i-Islami Hizb-ul-Mujahideen Hizballah Hizbullah Honduras ICBM IRA Ikhwan-ul-Mussalmin Interahamwe Iparretarrak Islamic Israel JKLF Jamaat ul-Fuqra Jamat-e-Islami Jamiat-e-Ahl-e-Hadees KGB KKK Kach Kahane Chai Kashmir Kennedy Khaddafi Khalistan Khmer Rouge Komala Kosovo Kurdish Kurdistan Kuwait LSD LTTE La Cosa Nostra Lakshar-e-Taiba Lautaro Legion of Doom Lenin Les mongoles MAPU/L MD5 MI6 MILF MNLF Macheteros Macheteros Mafia Maktab al-Khidamat Manuel Rodriguez Marxist Maubere Resistance Mayi-Mayi Middle-Core Mohajir Qaumi Mong Tai Morazanist Mossad Mothaidda Quami Mujahedin-e Khalq Myanmar NORAD NSA Navy Nazi Nellis Range Noriega North Korea Oklahoma City Ortega Osama Bin Laden PALIPEHUTU PCP PGP PLO Pakistan Panama Pearl Harbor Peking Provos Qaddafi RC5 RDX RENAMO RSA Reno Romania Rule Psix SCUBA SDI SEAL Team 6 SHA SWAT Saddam Hussein Saheed Khalsa Scientology Semtex Serbian Shora-e-Jehad Sivi Vukovi South Africa Soviet Steyr Students of the Engineer TEMPEST TNT Tal Al Za'atar Talaa' al-Fateh Tamil Eelam Teamsters Terra Lliure Treasury Tupac Amaru U-235 US Airways Uzi Waco White House World Trade Center Zapatistas airframe airport al-Gama'at al-Islamiyya al-Jihad al-Qa'ida algorithm amatol ambush ambush ammo ammunition anonymous anti-tank archives armada armor armor-piercing arms arrangements assassinate assassination assassination assault atomic bomb bank account biological blowfish bomb bomb boobytrap border c4 camera carnivore charcoal chemical child pornography chinese class struggle claymore cocaine codebook colonel commando composition b conspiracy constitution cordite corporate corrupt council counter-intelligence crack-cocaine cracking cray credit card cryptographic czar d-day data haven defcon defenses democratie detcord detonate detonators dictionary disruption divers doctrine domestic doomsday double agent e-bola echelon efnet embassy embassy embassy empire encrypt enigma explosion explosive faction fertilizer fissionable flight 800 freedom freemasons genetic gold bullion government grenades guns hack harbor heroin hijack hostage hostages hydrogen bomb illuminati impulse incendiaries infiltration infosec infrastructure initiators insurgent intel international internet worm interpol jihad kamikazi kampuchea kibo kill kill kill kill launch codes lead azide lead styphante liberate liberation limousine lockpick loyalist main charge marijuana martyr maverick mercury fulminate microfiche microfilm minefield mines motorcade motorola mouvement munitions napalm nationalist nitric acid nitrocellulose nuclear oppressed orthodox password picric acid pipe-bomb plague platter charge plutonium plutonium policy political pre-teen president president primers private key propaganda psyops public key pulse detonation engine radar rail gun rebel rema
It rocks.
I get sound quality indistinguishable from a land line, days of use on a charge and "pretty good" coverage, including just about everywhere I happen to go around Tokyo, including underground train stations and the top of Mt. Fuji.
Plus, it's way cheaper.
It has pretty abysmal range, requiring a bunch of transceivers in a relatively small geographic area to get signal.
That pretty much describes Tokyo.
For 95% of when I need it, it works.
Cheers,
Jim
It's only being called WebDAV because there's a problem. ;-)
Really, I always heard it called "Front Page Extensions" to the HTTP spec. (WebDav has always been the name I associated with the Apache version.)
In all fairness, MS had it first and the OSS people adopted it. (IIRC - I may be wrong about this.)
In fact, it's one of two innovations that I respect from the MS folks - this and ODBC.
One caveat: I haven't used or looked at IIS in a few years, so they may have adopted WebDAV as the name, but my first thought was that they wanted to disassociate the problem a bit from their products like Front Page and IIS - PHBs will think that the problem is with the WebDAV protocol, not with the crappy MS implimentation, so Apache gets tarnished as well.
(But of course, I am a paranoid net.kook and I see conspiracies everywhere.)
Cheers,
Jim
I remember reading about some Western architects who came here to study construction methods, especially the puzzle-like way that wooden beams are fitted together to create a temple roof. Their determination was that it was simply too complicated to be able to be reproduced in the west, as it took years of apprenticeship to learn how to cut and fit the joints.
Aside from the nifty temples, most Japanese architecture is crap. I live in an "old" building, built in the 1980's. No insulation, ugly from the outside.
Oh, and if you like that pre-war style with the tiled roofs, remember that many many people in the Kobe quake were killed by falling tiles.
Sometimes I think that Gojira stomped on Tokyo because he had good taste.
Dropping a bunch of bogus DHCP servers onto the end of any available cables and tucking them under desks.
Not that I'd ever *do* that.
Heh heh...
Cheers,
Jim
"Hello, [Mr. Smith], how is that [Polo Shirt] you bought? We have a sale on [Polo Shirts] this week on the [third] floor."
/FogeyRant
I had almost that very thing said to me once in a now long-gone Polo shop on Connecticut Ave in DC.
Of course, way back then, it was called "Good Salesmanship" and didn't require any special technology, just awareness and consideration.
Cheers,
Jim (who is old enough to remember a time before even barcodes.)
Anonymity? Yes, but that's just an illusion anyway. Anybody who wants to can gather as much information about you as his heart desires.
In my case, mostly by what I have chosen to make available. The biggest reason? I don't use credit cards. I buy a *lot* of stuff, but only use cash. (Having no debt is comforting, too.)
In fact, probably the most extensive 'file' on my habits is at my video store. Since I don't rent porn, I think that's pretty innocuous.
I don't even use those supermarket club cards, because of the tiny loss of privacy they cause.
For the record: how much money has Benetton gotten from you in the past?
For myself, a few hundred bucks, at most. (Including the before-mentioned shirts with the cheap buttons.) I had a girlfriend who was crazy for their stuff, so I spent probably ~$2,000 there on her. (A good chunk of which was one *incredibly* ugly coat that she really wanted and then wore exactly twice, but that's another story...)
I know I'm a bit at the fringe on this topic, but it's something I care about.
Cheers,
Jim
And when all else fails, there is the microwave oven.
Yeah, right. I'm going to spend $75 on a shirt and then stick it in the microwave. (In my experience, the Benetton shirts I've had rarely survived a few trips to the dry cleaners without the buttons disintegrating. I doubt I'd be microwaving them...)
When the whole processor id thing was introduced way back when, people threw a big fit about it. Now what average Joe these days even know about it?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Intel drop that whole plan because of public outcry?
Big Brother will use your Visa bill to track you down, not these things, unless, of course, they store the RFIDs of your purchases and make it available to anyone.
If OJ's isotoner gloves had these, he'd be in jail now.
Take a look at how closely tied TRW, the credit report people, is to government and the defence industry, if you want to get a little paranoid
Cheers,
Jim
So we boycott the company just because they're using some new technology that everyone is afraid of. Early adopters often get the flak from public, but once everyone starts doing it, nobody cares!
No, because I feel it is an invasive technology that has the potential to cost you a bit of my freedom and anonymity.
When the RFID tag is smaller than a grain of rice, they can bury it in a product so that I lose the ability to decide for myself if I want to make this RFID information available to them or not.
As for everyone not caring, that's their business and their own choice.
I do care and they won't be getting my money from now on.
That's all I stated in the above post - I'm not trying to start a boycott, I'm not saying that they don't have the right to use this technology, I'm just saying that I won't support it with my cash.
Think for yourself, make your own choices.
Cheers,
Jim
IMHO, their ability to track their clothing stops when I pay money and take ownership of it.
I doubt they'll remove all the tags. I doubt consumers will know to.
I already found a sweater of my girlfriend's with one. She had asked me to snip off a scratchy tag and lo and behold, sewn inside the tag was an RFID tag. (Ann Taylor sweater? Not sure, so I won't say for sure.) Either way, if she wore it back to the store, would she show up as a repeat customer and be treated differently?
I just don't trust these things, even though I know they are pretty benign, so don't try to convince me otherwise.
Cheers,
Jim, the stubborn Luddite
Or buy a bunch of engines, if they even needed to.
How much anthrax or ricin could 62.5 g of propellant carry?
How much could a weather balloon carry?
Brings to mind the story about the kid who did scary radioactive stuff using legal items that contained trace elements of radioactive materials, such as smoke detectors and the wicks from Coleman lanterns.
Look at our major terrorist attacks:
WTC - Box cutters.
Oklahoma City - Manure and fuel.
In other words, where there's a will, there's a way.
AOL.
Cheers,
Jim
How can I UN-subscribe, when I never subscribed in the first place?!?!?
If you haven't figured out, unsubscription is really just a confirmation that you exist.
Until you either reply or unsubscribe, they don't really know if they have a 'live' email or not, unless you're allowing html mails to access url-loaded external elements, such as gifs and other web bugs.
If you allow them to push the idea that what they do is OK until you object by unsubscribing, they have won critical ground. At that point, you are on the defensive. You will have to unsubscribe to every email spam that you receive.
Of course, then, they just re-sell your address and the whole cycle starts again.
I never agreed to an opt-out scheme. When I decide to opt-in, I'll let them know.
Cheers,
Jim
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If you think about it, it's sort of an obvious idea, after all...
Hard to imagine that they won't eventually do it in some form.
Cheers,
Jim
Watch, in 5 years, someone will hear from it again.
Or it will show up on eBay...
Who else heard "netcraft survey says..." spoken in Richard Dawson's voice when they read that?
(Of course, I frequently hear Richard Dawson's voice in my head. Werner Klemperer, too...)
Cheers,
Jim
cantrip: (kän tRip), n. (Chiefly Scot.)
1. a magical charm or enchantment; 2. an elaborate deception or prank.
and could possibly spoil the movie for someone who hasn't seen it and that can result in lost sales
;-)
So could the original books. Better burn 'em all...
I typed that within 60 seconds of hearing of the tragedy.
Interpret it how you like.
I'm not religious.
Do whatever it is that you do when faced with a deeply important and tragic event that hits to the very heart of any person with the soul of a scientist and the heart of a free-thinking person, yet is still caring and considerate enough to put aside your overly politically-correct knee-jerk reactions and feel actual sympathy for another human.
A few ideas to consider before slamming me with your "Overrated" mods:
Prayer is not always to God.
People believe in many different gods. Or none. That's what makes us interesting.
Sometimes people just pray.
There is *nothing* wrong with praying, despite what "Anton LeVey" said.
Prayer is often a precursur to real action - it makes you consider things carefully.
You may be wrong about a great many things.
I am not religious and I rarely ever pray, but I did today for these lost scientists. If you can't deal with that, go fuck yourself.
I am rarely surprised by the shallowness and insensitivity of people.
I sure was today.
Ok, now feel free to mod this comment down and out of sight.