Geek Roadtrips Through the Heartland
While researching a roadtrip which I'll be taking from St. Paul, Minnesota to Placerville, Ca I did what any geek would do, I checked out the t-mobile hotspots along the route (some), did various searching on wi-finder (some) and other sites and have been doing some googling around on the topic. I know that there must be some 802.11b access points along and inside the towns along I-80, but for the life of me I'm finding it difficult for me to find any of them. I of course have various wireless sniffing apps, but that is hardly an efficient way to find access. I don't mind paying a small fee, so....with that in mind, if you were to take a trip across the country, where would you stop for access? For specifics, Read More...
If you live along I-80, what are your favorite haunts with wireless? Specifically, I plan on stopping for meals or sleep in Des Moines, Lexington, Cheyanne, Rock Springs or thereabouts, Salt Lake City and maybe Reno and points along the long, bleak road between Reno and Salt Lake. But it's clear that the net needs a good reference for places to check your email through out middle america, so post here even if you want to talk about a great unknown spot in Oklahoma or something away from my route. If you own such an establishment, let us know!
On a side note, the futility of my search seems soemwhat silly, as there are clearly people who use the internet in these towns. Anyhow, I really look forward to seeing your responses! Also, any high quality, unique dining reccomendations would be really appreciated. Also, funny roadside attractions or must see geek spots are welcome, as I intend on blogging my cross country trip as it happens and would like to have something to talk about other than the state lines I cross and the number of retreads I dodge.
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I'm driving to Florida this week and told everyone they won't be able to reach me until I get back.
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It's not really the heartland you're traveling through. The heartland is just farm after farm after fricking farm. Traveling through Kansas is damned boring. I'd say enjoy the trip, because out west in the mountains is beautiful. Enjoy the scenery. And be glad it's not all wheat and corn fields reeking of cow manure. ;-)
When you come the the Des Moines area, there is Prairieinet.net. They are a rural ISP that uses wifi. I don't know how open their sites are, but it is worth a try. http://www.prairieinet.net. and see a list of their sites.
Skip the stop in Des Moines and just keep on trucking into Omaha. I know our downtown area is rife with wireless networks. And if you don't want to run the risks of tapping into a local business's WLAN, there are several hotels in the area which have free wireless setup right in the hotel. and have fun making that drive.....iowa through to denver is about the flatest, boringest drive in the entire world.
if you were to take a trip across the country, where would you stop for access?
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Can't you just enjoy the scenery? I mean, wouldn't that be the whole point of taking a cross country vacaction? If you must record the whole thing digitally, it can always be uploaded to a site when you get back.
I think too many people have forgotten about the "off" button. Wonderful invention you know.
Who said Freedom was Fair?
Archive all your webpages you ussually look at on to a CD and bring it with you, that way you can read everything you normally would! =P
So, there's net access all over the place -- libraries, Internet cafes, any remotely modern hotel or motel. What's with the insistence on wireless access?
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i go on long bike rides. i used to take my handheld PC with me, but soon i figured it is hard to find a wi-fi spot. So i bought a conector for my nextel phone (approx $45) to my IPAQ and I enjoy connectivity whenever and wherever i want.
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oh, and if you're worried about wireless access, stay home. try and make your trip at least a little adventurous, just b/c you're taking interstates doesnt mean you cant have some puny semblance of fun.
Well since you are on I-80 you will be driving through Lincoln, Nebraska. I have a couple of suggestions. One, you can try driving through campus (university of nebraska-lincoln) to pick up some internet.
Also, you could drive by my house - I leave a WAP open to all (well bandwith capped at 256/256 for non-fixedlease DHCP address's). Heh, I decided to do this right after I went on vacation and relied on other people's WAP's for internet. I would suggest driving around campus and the college areas, kids always leave open WAP's and the university has a number of WAP's open to all that you can pick up. Downtown also has a ton of WAP's.
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I live in Gold River, CA (not that far from Placerville) and basically did your trip in reverse... A co-worker of mine had to move back to Philly, PA, and we decided to road-trip it... Reno, believe it or not, doesn't provide an abundance of internet access at all... They want everybody to gamble instead... I think I found 1 cafe that provided internet access while up there (And it was for a LAN party months prior, not on this trip), and, it wasn't even wireless... was your standard RJ-45 jack, but it worked... There was nothing between there and Salt Lake City, at least on I-80... I didn't even see many signs of civilization, let along, technology...
Salt Lake City has a few internet cafe's, though I don't remember any of their names... I know they were relativly close to the highway... We only passed through Salt Lake, so I didn't get to patron any of them, nor do I know if they're wireless or not...
We then went out to Cheyenne and didn't find a hotel with access, or any establishments either... Over all, it was pretty dull... Nebraska was the same way... I did find a nice location out in Indiana that had wireless access advertized, but it was closed when we drove by... The only internet access I got my entire trip was in Chicago, when we stayed at a friend's house... He let me plug my laptop into his cable modem for a few to check my mail and what not... That's about the extent of my trip... We didn't look that hard, so I probably am missing a whole hell of a lot... but I hope it helps...
Best of luck, Chris, safe trip!
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First, I'm sure a lot of people are going to suggest that you forgo the interenet altogether. There is something to be said for this; it sounds like you trip is, at least in part, designed to be an adventure, and being 'offline' might enhance it.
That said, if you do decide to go online, for blogging or e-mail, pick up a prepaid phone card, enter the 800#, your pin, and a juno access number into the PPP settings, and then every phone jack you see on your way will be a 'net access point. Wireless is fun, but if you just need to transmit text, the phone connection is easiest, redily availible, and certinly powerfull enough.
PS - it sounds like a lot of fun. Enjoy yourself.
as has been repeated several times by the people who run the site, is US centric, because the people who run the site are from the US. And it's not just US centric in topic, but also in readership. Besides, even if one is not from the US, that fact does not preclude one from having taken a road trip through the western US. /me slaps himself for responding to trolls/flamebait.
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Hey... get on I-91 instead and cruise through New Hampshire. Stop by my house and you can use my 56K dialup-supplied acccess point...
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I took a road trip across the southern US. I loaded up my pickup truck with a tent and a laptop in Atlanta and wound up in Alamogordo, NM before I turned around and headed home.
:)
Every KOA campground (er, "kampground") I stayed at had a phone jack for plugging your laptop into in one of the public areas, usually the rec room (though in one it was the laundry facility.) Dialup may not be sufficient for, say, uploading the day's digital pictures to your webswerver, but it's enough to check email and at least do the text portion of a 'blog.
I dunno where you're planning on overnighting on your trip, but if campgrounds have phone lines, I'd guess darned near any hotel does, too. And if you're not crashing at a hotel or a campground, please, find somewhere to take a shower.
1. goto the University of minnesota...the majority of the networks there(that I work on) require a U username password but there's a lot of rogue networks, and I would assume most any campus will have some wireless you can find....
2. Dunn Bros is one of the cybercafes another poster may have been refering to...they offer free access inside with a coffee or just sit outside...they're scattered through the area.
i can gurantee you that you will find some net access, if anything esle, you can always hit up down town cyber cafe'
Either cyber cafes or (simpler) a modem both came to mind. This seems far easier. If I needed 'Net access, I'd probably have a laptop, slap a modem and get an account with a national ISP, and be happy as a clam. This guy isn't going to be downloading movies onto his laptop during the road trip (I would imagine), so I can't see any reason this wouldn't work. There are phones *everywhere* in the US.
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Look, if you want to enjoy your trip, leave all your gear home. I enjoy technology, but it has to have limits. Shortly before year's end I took a trip with my friends to the beach. There was no cell reception, and it was great!!! I work as a freelance sysadmin/computer geek for hire, and generally have to stay in touch. I limited myself to check my voice mail a couple of times. In the only voicemail I got from a client, he was just calling to wish me a happy new year. Hell didn't break loose while I was "out of touch." I love techonoly (I currently have 5 computers setup in my room, but should drop to 3/2 soon) but there are times when everyone needs to unplug (or get away from wi-fi access or whatever) Do you really think you need to be hooked up? I'm pretty sure you don't, try it and you'll see.
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Like all of the other school-boys you lure into your house.
... a pretty bad one.
Why not try doing the "stupid tourist thing" and avoid computers for a while? See the sights, appreciate some wilderness, pick apples, etc..etc... just something that may give you a new outlook, and perhaps distance you a bit from the day to day life we all try and avoid when we go on a holiday.
You might wanna look into the Bonneville Salt Flats. I don't think theres any actual races 'til Aug, but you might be able to catch some speed trials or something. We're talkin highest-landspeed record-setting vehicles that propel across the salt flats at speeds that make Nascar drivers shit their pampers.
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Blogging across country? Please....
But if you must, pick up a GSM cell phone and simply dial in to Juno, etc. Otherwise you'll spend all your time looking for access, and not smelling the roses.
I mean what are you going to do...stop at every StarBucks just to tell the world you've stopped at every StarBucks?
Hey!!! Cool!!! I'm calling you from the airplane/highway/truckstop/motel!!!
the hawthorne inn in cedar rapids (25 miles north of 80) has wifi access that blocks http but is open to ssh and pop3 last I checked.
I think so, Brain. But where will we get a duck and a rubber hose at this time of night? --Pinky
I totally appreciate the sentiment though.
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Find the local public library. You might have to register and show ID to get a machine with a fast connection but you'll see locals and get a chance to talk to real people.
Use the restroom, wash your hands, interact.
To proceed somewhat logically:
Since you are not traveling to arrive at a destination, you must be traveling to either:
The very act of bringing your computer along with you obfuscates the beauty of the Midwest. Attempting to remain connected to the internet and actually blogging your journey, undeniably proves the latter reason.
I can therefore conclude, as my final non sequitur, that you are a Mac user, since they obviously enjoy appending useless hype to revered foundations.
The first thing I try to do is break my laptop and accidently leave my cell phone charger at home. Vacation isn't for working.
AOL.
Cheers,
Jim
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You're starting out in St. Louis and have an end objective of Placerville? That's like leaving hell to go ...somewhere even worse.
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www.surfthing.com -- free wifi.
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Hopefully, you're aware of the Twin Cities Wireless User Group.
http://www.tcwug.org
We have a map system of available access points, and other fun stuff
What, exactly, is so great about unplugging for a while?
;)
I take my laptop and cell phone on every trip. I dont use them to work, I use them to play. I like to stay in touch, to be able to talk to people, and to do all the fun things I do with them when I'm not at work.
Plus, on the off chance that some emergency should come up (it's happened), I CAN be reached.
As far as people griping about the whole wireless thing, I think it's pretty cool that he's looking for wi-fi hotspots. Ok, so the world may not all be wireless yet, but we're trying, and what's the point of implementing this cool new tech if nobody's gonna use it? Sure, when I go places with my laptop, I fully expect to have either no net access, or dialup, but I bring a LAN cable and my wireless card anyway, just in case I luck out, and when that happens, I am one happy camper.
There's just something about being able to lie on the beach, work on my tan, and be playing starcraft with my friends back home that appeals to me
Remember folks, for some of us, technology makes our lives BETTER. I dont think I've ever thought of tech as a burden, and before I get all those angry comments asking if I've ever stepped outside and appreciated nature, yes, I have. I thoroughly enjoy rock climbing, ice skating, roller blading, and a variety of other non-tech outdoor activities. I've been to italy, greece, turkey, and about half of the 50 states. I've seen the world, and you know what? With a few exceptions (greece was seriously bad ass), it was pretty boring, and some good tech would have made it much more fun for me.
Not sure if it's only Twin Cities or what, but Dunn Brother's coffee shops are offering wireless internet for free.
They're less evil than Starbucks... :)
My Karma was at 49, then they switched to words. All that work for nothing!
All their stores should have wi-fi. And there is also excuse me cough cough cough coughcough cough I think you get the picture ^_^.....
Nobody needs help finding those, though. You can't go 5 miles without seeing a sign for one.
I usually leave my computer at home when on the road. However, I do participate in a different kind of wireless that I enjoy every bit as much as the Internet- Amateur Radio. The Technician license is easy to get, you can get a mobile or handheld 2m radio for under $200, and there are never any access fees. Repeaters are everywhere and there are lots of people to talk to. Great fun, try it.
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Every truck stop in America contains a greasy cafe. At each table you will find a telephone and/or plug available for all your connectivity needs. You will need a dial-up provider that offers a 1-800 number or dial-up software that allows the use of phone cards. It's not superfast, but you can connect any time you need to stop for fuel and food.
I'd see some geocaches along the trip. Not only are they fun, they often bring you to cool places to see that only locals would know about.
To proceed somewhat logically:
1. You are not typing for the purpose of making any express point that anyone is interested in hearing, for clearly Slashdot (slashdot.org) is not the place to do so, so you must be typing for some alternative reason.
2. You're a moron.
Since you are not typing because you want to make a point, you must be typing either to:
1. Flame Mac users, or
2. Give your hands something to do while someone stuffs a length of man-meat into your mouth.
I can therefore conclude, as my final sequitur, that you are a cock sucker, since they obviously enjoy appending useless crap (http://slashdot.org/~palvo) to revered foundations (http://goatse.cx).
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I live in Placerville!
Tips:
1. War drive through Main Street, there is quite a few hotspts that you can nab. There's a Starbucks too, if you happen to have a tmobile account (That's a little further east, on Broadway). Most people here are... Computer illeterate, so you might not find many hotspots, but the ones you do find will be unprotected. I have yet to spend longer than 10 minutes On Main Street looking for a good hotspot.
(Super Secret Tip: Park out front of Gelato's. That's the best spot.)
2. There are *no* good computer stores up here. None. Office Max doesn't count. The closest good computer store is in Sacramento (CompUSA). There's a Fry's on Northridge Road, which is really nice.
3. There is no number 3... THERE IS NO NUMBER 3!!!
"as I intend on blogging my cross country trip as it happens and would like to have something to talk about other than the state lines I cross and the number of retreads I dodge." So talk about the state lines and the number of retards you dodge. (just avoid /. for maximum retard dodge-age).
I am travelling from New Zealand to San Francisco with couple of days on Los Angeles in late April and I was wonder some of the same kind of things. What are the 'Must See' things for a Hi-Tech tourist in thoses areas ?
Make a detour up to Duluth. I'm pretty sure my landlord who set up our wireless doesn't know what WEP is. :)
it's a freeway
My girlfriend and I are planning a road trip for this May (our planned route is listed below), and I came across some books that you may want to look into. While they don't deal with wireless hotspots or technology in general, they do deal with things that are essential for any cross-country trip: weird stuff and good food.
The first book is called Eccentric America by Jan Friedman... It highlights many interesting, different, and just plain weird places to visit. For example, there's a guy in Washington state who is building and plans to fly a hydrogen peroxide-fueled rocket, not unlike what John Carmack is currently doing. The book is also useful to find out what is weird/eccentric/etc. in your own city or town.
The second book is called Roadfood , by Michael and Jane Stern. It is a compendium of restaurants, ice cream parlors, highway diners and so on across the country. I haven't read in too much detail, but it should come in handy.
For those of you who are interested, my girlfriend and I are planning the following waypoints for our roadtrip: Tallahassee, FL -> New Orleans, LA -> Austin, TX -> Roswell, NM -> Albuquerque, NM -> Grand Canyon -> Las Vegas, NV -> San Francisco, CA -> somewhere near the CA/OR border -> Eugene, OR -> Portland, OR -> elsewhere on the way back home. The trip back will wind through Helena, MT and Denver, CO to visit some relatives, with everywhere else just being nightly waypoints. Am I bringing my laptop? Probably not... Am I bringing a digital camera? You bet!
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Sorry, nevermind, that's I-90. :-)
* And remember, it's spelled N-e-t-s-c-a-p-e, but it's pronounced "Mozilla."
Do not stop at Reno. The stripers there call it drano and half the hotels and casino's are goind under and are very junky. Stop near lake Tahoe if you can find room instead. Its georgeous country.
I also recommend you stop not at Salt Lake City but the Uitina Mountains about a few hours outside of salt like city. They are really georgous. If you have extra time visit the Desert peak just west of salt lake city assuming the road to the top is still open. Its so cool to see desert in the valley below, shrubs in hills surrounding them and forests and snow where you are at the tops of the mountains.
Just beware that snow is very very bad at the high elevations at route 80 this time of year. Its not just cooler higher up but snow and rain come down harder because the combination of the cooler air condensing the moisture out of the clouds, and mountian block. It may only snow 4 inches in Salt lake city but the mountains can get up to a foot! Plan ahead and check the weather before you leave! If the weather forcasts call for snow prepare alot of extra time or find an alternative lower elevation route.
I would never visit these mountains in the winter for this reason. But I do visit them in the summer.
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I don't get all these people saying that you should leave your laptop at home and just enjoy the trip- I think they must all associate the laptop with work or something.
I always take my laptop when I go on holiday- not for internet access, but so I can upload my digital pictures to it, play go in the hotel late at night if there's nothing else to do, type up notes on the trip (because I can't read my own handwriting) etc.
Also it's cool that I can go to Japan, buy PC software and then use it while I am there.
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Another editor starts the same journey in a few days and doesn't realize it's already being done until they both stumble across each other at 11:00 PM at a Motel 6.
Yeah.... then what happens?! Trolls, enlighten us!
The difference between checking a web-based email account (hotmail.com) and using your own, either business-related or ISP (nycap.rr.net, in my case) is rather large. Perhaps someone either doesn't want an @hotmail.com name for fear of shame in front of fellow computer-users (geeks - I mean, who else?) or just uses the one ISP provided or other sortof non-browser adaptable email. I can relate to this.
Using public computer terminals is fine and dandy if you want something done quickly, and aren't worried about leaving your information on that machine, perhaps, then sure! But if you want your own system to work from, with your own mailbox, your own controls, your own preferences, a wireless-enabled laptop is the way to go. Plus, it's better than being constrained to just a desk and a library, or something.
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I have the wireless web added to my Sprint's plan, I also have the cables for my cell phone to my laptop and my palm, I would be hesitant to take my laptop. I would take my palm pilot. the cell phones (on 2g networks, if you have a 3g network you probably don't care about this) is only good for e-mail, and a palm pilot can do that well. I don't know the reason for your trip, if it is just a there and back again, I would leave the laptop at home, but if you are going to be at your final location for a long time take the laptop, this just MHO so take it for what it is worth.
The Sprint PCS wireless web is only $5 more a month, and I can now use my voice minutes for the web (I have 300 peak and unlimited off peak, also unlimited pcs to pcs calling)
...don't forget to visit CarHenge in Allaince. Not exactly on I-80, but it's awfully cool anyway. Here's a link: /htmlCarHenge
"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are."
I live along I-80 near Auburn (just north of placerville) in California. There are very few wi-fi hotspots between Auburn and Rocklin, however, a quick trip through rocklin, off Highway 65 will reveal hundreds of open APs. Most of the APs coming down the mountain are blocked by trees and hills anyways.
Your best bet for getting any hotspots will always be in suburbia.
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Why in the hell do you need wireless? Is a phone cable too heavy to carry? Get a free trial with a national ISP, and most have local dialup numbers everywhere.
The real question is why the hell (unless on the way to Tahoe) would anyone want to go to Placerville???
I live in Cleveland Ohio. My wife and I took two trips out west two years in a row. In 2000, we went out west to Carlsbad NM via US 40. All along the way, I found nothing. Granted, that wireless access really hadn't burst onto the mainstream scene yet. In 2001, we took another trip out west to Glacier National Park via US 80 and 90, and again there was no wireless access anywhere. Not only was wireless access non-existant, but large parts of the west barely even have dial-up access.
My boss and I have often discussed why it is that broadband combined wireless haven't taken off in places like hotels and rest stops. At this point they are VERY inexpensive and it wouldn't be hard to implement at all even for those organizations with little money. On many of my trips around the US, I've found that broadband and wireless are only available in the most expensive accomodations (A Radisson in Massachusetts for instance). We did happen to stay in a Comfort Inn in PA once that actually had ethernet in the room (LodgeNet was the ISP) that gave decent speeds for a reasonable price ($4.99 for 24 hours. Of course, Radisson's wireless access was free of charge). But, that was a 1 in 25 experience in terms of frequency of occurence.
Just last month we took a trip to Australia and found that what appears to be common there are coin-op internet access stations nearly everywhere. Again, I didn't find any wireless or wired access in any of the hotels we stayed in (Mostly "Flag" hotels. Also a few Ibis). I was able to get dial-up with Telstra Bigpond, but 28.8-42K feels pretty slow these days.
I think the problem is that a lot of hotels, rest areas, airports, etc... think that this stuff is really expensive. So... it's time for all you WiFi hacktivists to get out there and spread that word that wireless is here, broadband is here and they are both reasonably priced. In fact a lot of those hotels could cut down on their outside lines and use that money for the DSL line or two to give their customres high speed access.
Oh well... just a few thoughts on this subject, but not much else to say.
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Dunn Brothers on Wabasha in downtown St. Paul used to be my old bandwidth feed trough before I moved far, far away. Also, the MSP airport has Wi-Fi access, but I think its 'doze only and you have to pay for it.
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From about exits 211 to 150 on I-80 in Wyoming, you will be in the Great Divide Basin. This is a valley where the Continental Divide essentially splits in half: All the rainwater that falls in the valley(which probably isn't much) drains into the valley and does not leave. All the rain that falls outside the basin eventually reaches one ocean or another.
It's basically a weird inversion of the Continental Divide.
There's also the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah, which is one of the flattest places on earth.
I can't offer any advice on wireless hot spots--I-80 goes through some of the least populated areas of the U.S.
You might read Joel Garreau's
- The Nine Nations of North America
to see why he calls most of the region west of the Rockies "the Empty Quarter".They still make stereos that dont play mp3s?
Wow, that's weird.
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No geek trip across the country should be done without stopping at least once to see a HUGE BEING or a WORLD's LARGEST ROADSIDE ATTRACTION!!
Even Kansas has such remarkable attractions to see :-)
(Heck, if you insist on blogging while traveling, at least include something amusing and worth reading about ...)
Who will be driving? Or will you be using Voice to Text?
last year I took a trip to the states local to Virginia. Never logged into anything till I got to Ohio and used a friend's link to acces my webmail to hook up with a friend I was going to drop in on in NC. Then we used the cell phone when we were close to Charlotte to get precise directions. But, dude, when you're in a bar you would look a little odd carrying along a laptop.
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"a jug of wine, a loaf of bread , and thou"
Bring food, beverage, music, and a friend. Then enjoy a front row seat in the multi-media, infinite resolution, instantly interactive, multi-player game called "reality". It's fun!!
Oh, and a phone and money for emergencies. And join AAA (American Automobile Association) just for the trip - trust me on this!
Along your route, I stopped at University of Utah (Salt Lake City), which has a big lab in the library, with wireless. However, you have to be a student to get access. I just used a floppy (remember floppies?) to move stuff from the laptop to a lab machine and did the FTP from there. Or, try unplugging an ether cable from a lab machine and plugging yours in. Might work - it does at University of Vermont (heh heh).
While on campus, try wandering around outside the dorms. I imagine you'll pick up a few access points there.
As for stuff to see, if you're not in a huge rush, take the scenic route across North Dakota and drive through the Teddy Roosevelt National Park, then go south and see Mt. Rushmore and the Crazy Horse Memorial (crazyhorse.org, thanks to a previous poster). I cannot say enough about this one - it's about the most awesome sight I've seen. I hit it before Mt. Rushmore (they're about 35 or so miles apart) and it made Rushmore look small and insignificant.
When in Green River, Wyoming, don't forgt to see the Greater Green River Intergalactic Spaceport (along the road to the Flaming Gorge Dam and Recreational Area). Then again, don't bother - it looks like this. The Bonneville Salt Flats are mightily impressive.
One other thing - you will not get a decent cup of coffee until you get to California. When I was in Cheyenne, I drove half an hour out of my way to find a Starbucks. Get a french press (you can get them in plastic - reccomended) and grind up some beans before you leave.
One other other thing - never eat, or even stop, at Stuckeys. Trust me on this.
Other than that, have a great trip, and like others here have said, don't let the tech get in the way of enjoying it.
What if life is just a side effect of some other process and God has no idea we exist?
You do realize that you are crossing the great american spiritual and cultural waste-land, right? The reason you don't find many wireless hot-spots is that there aren't many. The whole mid-section of the continent, from the Great Lakes west, is underserved or unserved by everything that a geek in an urban center would consider important. Bring a modem and an account with a nationwide ISP or forget about internet access.
Moreover, the image of the goofy mid-west, full of strange characters and goofy atractions is a myth pomulgated by a sentimental media. There are one or two things to do, though nothing that's stuck in my memory, but in most cases, once you get past a superficial exoticism, these sorts of places are all the same. I have crossed and re-crossed the west, always looking for something to elevate the trip above sheer tedium, and I have yet to find it.
There are two pieces of adivce I can offer, that make trips like this bareable:
1. Stay off the freeway. Every inch of freeway, from Washington to Washington DC looks the same. It takes longer to drive on the US and State highways, but there is enough variety to justify the effort, unless you are in a hurry.
2. State and National Parks are usually worth the effort. The long scar of the Badlands which streches rather farther than I'd expected, is a good example.
Good luck and may your god have mercy.
Acura of Omaha leaves their wifi wide open, it's right off the 84th street exit in Omaha.
Wireless access points are easy to find along the highway; just look for the skidmarks and wreckage left by previous users.
---- "If we have to go on with these damned quantum jumps, then I'm sorry that I ever got involved" - Erwin Schrodinger
just remember that rest stops after the sun goes down are a meccha for homosexual activity.
took me a few of these stops before i realized I was not just an easy target for sexual assault because of the way I looked.
Downtown, outside a certain major bank building. DHCP is flaky, but you can pick an IP and use .2 as the router.
:)
Of course, this is just hearsay.
... remind yourself of our nuclear prowess!
;) They give us storm chasers something to remember if we don't see anything significant during that day's chase.)
http://www.ci.kimball.ne.us/gotte_park.htm
(I've visited both this park and Carhenge. Terrific pit stops for travellers and storm chasers.
-Jellisky
But I-80 has the barbed wire buffalo in Gothenburg, Nebraska (& the sod house museum & pony express station)....
foldplay your photos won't know what hit them.
once i took a trip to the boundary waters on the canadian border with my ten year old son. as it rained on our heads while we were on the river, drenching ourselves in deet (i know...) to avoid the continual hum of mosquitos, i discovered that the cell phone actually worked in the wilderness! $40 phone calls to my girlfriend. being connected is nice, but wishing wi-fi upon the world isn't going to make it happen soon. i use a cell phone card which gets up to 144k (more like 90k) in areas with coverage and 19k elsewhere. loading /. in 5 seconds has turned out to be just fine! bandwidth can be overrated. connection matters. no strings on me!
http://www.i-spotaccess.com/
They limit you per month, but have several access points including a mall, a jazz bar (Doc's), and other sites.
Try one of the bigger wi-fi providers like Boingo Wireless http://www.boingo.com
Truckstops such as Flying J and TravelCenters of America offer dialup as well as 802.11b access. Most of the drivers I know would be lost without their laptops.
We typed "trust me on this" at the EXACT same time!
I used WirelessModem, a shareware PalmOS app that bridges the Treo's serial port and built-in wireless modem. Yes, it works in Linux, MacOS, and Windows. Supposedly, the USB cable even works in Linux and MacOS.
Be aware that Sprint's transparent proxy re-compresses Web images, similarly to AOL. The maximum theoretical rate is 144kbps, but I haven't yet achieved that due to weirdness in Windows's modem drivers.
but you're a goddamned fuckin fag. Jesus Christ.
If you get a good (7.5 Db or better) antenna, you can wardrive across country. There will be gaps but more than a few open APs. I was picking up APs on the strangest points along I-80...
Beyond that, Sprint PCS with unlimited Vision should work if you are going to stay on the freeways (or Verizon's equivalent or others).
I just drove cross-country, and wanted some sort of Net access. I bit the bullet and installed AOL from one of those "1K free hours" CDs.
So kill me.
The result was that, at all but one hotel, I had free local calls and I could relax on the Net whilst sitting in my underwear watching CNN.
Yeah, it was slow, but not the end of the world. I could read E-mail, check somw sites, update my blog with travel news, and snarf porn.
Six days later, end of trip, call to AOl, cancel account.
Java is the blue pill
Choose the red pill
Try living in the desert for a week or so. Personally, I like to go in the winter, when it's cold, because I don't like heat. There is no running water, no electricity. I sleep in a tent if it's wet or under the stars if it's a clear night, and believe me, it gets COLD. But the best part? Being able, in the complete darkness, to see every single star in the universe and just imagine the grandness of everything. The last thing I want crossing my mind is how life revolves around computers nowadays.
If your're visiting Mt. Rushmore or the Black Hills, enetis.net has 801.11 APs in Rapid City and Hill City. They use hardcoded subscriber MACs but maybe they would cut a ond-day deal for visitors.
You're only chance past Omaha/Lincoln is going to be in Kearney or North Platte. I'd stay in North Platte if I were you (I'm from North Platte).
cross-country? since when is minnesota on the east coast?
If you stop in Truckee, CA, 30 mi. past Reno, the East side of Truckee High School (by the stairs, high school side doors, and the view of comercial downtown) has the best open, free, WiFi access.
Ryan
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it looks like you're right on top of wi-fi and cell phone hotspots! now, how is the list of things to stop and take a look at on your road trip? ;-)
Yeah, it might be hard to find wireless, considering at least 80% of folks around these here parts don't have *electricity*. :)
Here's what wireless sounds like here:
(john boy, from across the holler): Hey maw!
(maw): What is it, John Boy?
(john boy): I got me a wireless! yeee hawww!
(maw): Well, shut my mouth and paint me red!
stuff |
Old pentium laptop with a hardrive upgrade plugged in with a tape adapter. I dont need no fancy hardware mp3 player.
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
or just the plain brown snakes that cross the road, or just sunbake in the middle.
Not to mention the roos, when it is drought and there is more grass along the road sides and grain from passing trucks. Galahs and Cockatoos are fun windscreen smashers too.
And just when you think you can set and forget the cruise control and tie the steering wheel up, you come across herds of cattle or sheep using the road as a stock route or long grass paddock.
That's the Hay plains (NSW Sydney to Adelaide). And then there is the nullabour (Adelaide to Perth), where a passenger can go to sleep for five hours (550km), wake up and wonder if we've moved at all.
And not a wi-fi or even a mobile phone signal the whole way. But our capital city CBDs are full of free unprotected wi-fi. Just no good for road trips. If you don't count Canberra, the closest they get together is 800km (500miles).
-- it must be true, it's on the internet.
I live in desmoines.. afaik, there arent many wifi hotspots.. we dont have good broadband here, even in the cities, so wifi also isnt very good
There is one of two cold water geysers in Green River, Utah. The other is somewhere in Switzerland (so I hear). I was last there about 5 years ago when you could stand next to the geyser and lean into the stream while errupting. Pretty cool if you're into natural phenomenon.
Crystal Geyser
Suncoast Linux - Sarasota, FL
The University of Iowa has pretty extensive wireless networking in the buildings, but I don't know if it's open. There were a couple of students who were talking about starting a company to provide wifi coverage to the entire Iowa City area, but since I've been at Caltech for the last couple year, I don't know how that's progressed.
The Sheraton on Burlington St. still has WiFi access.. it sits on a "ped mall" and you should be able to get access from around that area. I lived there for a couple years (grew up in SE Iowa but lived in I.C. before I moved to Philadelphia). I would recommend staying in Iowa City instead of Des Moines. Better people, more things to do.. etc etc.
Sorry that my post is all over the place!
Maybe this link will help. http://www.nodedb.com/unitedstates/?
One of the local pizza places (New Yalk Pizza at the corner of Virginia and Moana) has a public wifi hotspot. I haven't tried it (no laptop) but I assume it works. They have a big sign and instructions on how to connect. More importantly, the pizza is pretty good (it's thin crust, east coast style). There is also a good sandwich place (Cross's Deli) less then a block west on Moana.
Or any of the nearby cities. You'll find unguarded, WEP-less WAPs by the dozens.
There's just something about our nation's capital that screams lack of security. Particularly, load up Kismet around Arlington, VA *coughn.s.f.coughballstonmallcough*.
I realize this isn't American heartland, but many people swing past this way when they are off being tourists.
Why bother.
Map out the locations of the CompUSA stores along the route.. they tend to have wifi in the store.. with rather promiscous settings... hell.. leave your computer at home and use theirs to check your e-mail ;)
Everybody in the car. Boat leaves in two minutes... or perhaps you *don't* want to see the second largest ball of twine on the face of the earth, which is only four short hours away!
My apologies to Clark W. Griswold....
In Soviet Russia, Chuck Norris will still kick your ass.
Don't bother. I-80 allows an uninterrupted view of the armpit of WY. Flat, boring, 90% of the traffic consists of Semis. This is the main reason people think Wyoming is desolate.
Go through northern Wyoming and enjoy the drive. Take I-90 through from the Black Hills, driving through Sheridan and exiting at Ranchester. from there, take state road 14 over the mountains and into Shirley basin. Some pretty seriously harsh country there.
Continue on 14 to Yellowstone, and take a day or more to enjoy the sights. Check to see which roads are open before assuming you can drive right through. If you can drive through the park, drive down and exit at the South entrance, where you can continue to Jackson Hole and the Grand Teton national park.
Keep going south from there, and you'll end up back on I-80 near the Wyoming-Utah border.
While the drive may take a bit longer than it would on the Interstate alone, you'll be able to drive through the beautiful Bighorn Mountains and visit two National Parks rather than enjoying barren nothingness except when you get to the most dangerous stretch of I-80 between Cheyenne and Laramie. Highly unpredictable weather, steep hills and heavy truck traffic combine to make an extremely undesirable drive.
Despite the sizes of the towns you'll pass through, you may be surprised at the number of little hotels that have internet access, frequently wireless.
Just make sure you have decent snow tires. Coming from where you are, I should hope you already do.
I went on a trip with a buddy of mine in the august/spring of '99 and brought along a laptop to update a website along the way (check the site to see our route, pictures, and writings). It was great fun posting it to a site as friends and relatives were able to follow, e-mail suggestions and generally cause a little buzz and fun in other peoples lives. It worked out well- doing the writing and image editing during the long car rides (rt 80 can be a BORE at times), and update to the site in 10 minutes via a hotel room phone jack. I think trying to find wireless networks along the way might be too much of a time-waster when all you are doing is sending small amounts of data to your site anyway. Another poster suggested a data connection to a cell phone. That idea would probably be best, followed by the telephone line, and lastly, wireless. After all, you don't want to be limited by technology, but served by it.
Have a blast!
Your primary concern is wi-fi internet access, so I'll address that first. Seriously consider researching which small towns along the way have broadband internet access. Perhaps unsurprisingly, small town people like high speed internet. They also dislike running cables. Therefore, they buy a cheap router/access point from Best Buy, plug it in, and never look at it again. I'm from a town of about 2500 people. I went wardriving one day just for fun and found 10 access points without even trying very hard.
Secondly, why are you stopping in cities anyway? Why not get some of the local "culture" along the way? Diners tend to be as cheap as fast food, and depending on the time of day, faster. Not to mention you don't have to deal with going through the city to get to a restaurant.
I guess it depends who you are, really.
I moved from NYC to Boston, and I find it booooooring and provincial. I have no idea how I'd handle living "out there". When I'm away from NYC too long, I get antsy, like I'm being locked up somewhere away from activity. Coming back is like getting a hit when you've been in withdrawl.
When my wife takes me camping, I'm good for the first few hours...after which, I start wondering how long it'll take to get back to civilization. I think I'd find your 5-different-climate-zones cool for the first few minutes, and then be really, really bored.
Oddly enough, I was never had a problem with Milwaukee. Takes all types.
Well folks, I just moved across the country and let me say how much there was nothing on the subject. Roadtrips are Roadtrips, but they weren't much help ass far as moving. I found very little on the net about someone moving across country. No tips, nothing like that. I just arrived about 4 days ago and am still putting the finishing touches on my "Move across America."
I did bring a laptop but no wireless access. To be honest just having a dialup acount would have been great. But does anyone know if the Love's Truckstops across our great nation have wireless access? Anyway the laptop was fairly useful.
CAPS LOCK: ITS LIKE THE CRUISE CONTROL FOR AWESOME
Why? Well, you're right. Jacking on and dialing in is fine. If that's what you want to do. It'll get the job done, but it's a minimalist approach. If you have the technology, by accident or design, USE IT! When I bought my PowerBook G4, I didn't necessarily buy it for the fact that it came with an AirPort Wireless networking card, but more or less for the fact that it had a nice screen, a long battery life, and the development environment I needed for school. If you've got some IBM ThinkPad with just a RJ-45 jack, then you've got little choice (ignoring PCIMCIA).
:-p) is liberating. It means I don't have to be within six feet of a phone jack, and that when my fiancee or whomever runs across, say, the hotel room, I don't have to worry about her/them tripping on the wire and sending me, my machine, and the wall jack to the floor. It's happened. Besides, in the case of a hotel, who wouldn't pass up the chance to go sit in the elevator and freak everyone out? :-p
To that end, having a wireless attachment (no matter how contradictory that phrasing sounds!
It all depends on your preferences, and your technological constraints. I still say, if you have the technology, use it.
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There is a town off I-80 called Dix, Nebraska. It's about 45-55 miles East of Cheyenne. Go to a little bakery off the main road and get a cabbage burger...mmmmm. No technology whatsoever in this little town of about 300, but good local eats.
Sounds like you need to do some research, instead of appending Stupidity to the useless output of your mouth.. Mac OS X is built on BSD, not linux.
We used dial-up. It was slow and painful, but it worked. Here's our story.
It's not so much that I'm down on bringing gear. There is a time and place. My day usually goes something like this. iPaq wakes me up, I go check email, VPN into the company servers and check things out. Grab a quick bite, and I'm off to work, sit in front of various systems all day. Most of the conversation revolves around work and the computers therein. I go home, get back on my computer and check email again, work on a website or a programming project and go to bed late. Often I get called in the middle of the night to fix problems.
I give myself one week to forget all of that. During that week, we bring no technology. Not because it's impossible to use technology for entertainment, but because it is easy to use technology for entertainment. If the laptop was there, I know I'd be doing the exact same thing you mentioned, sitting around playing StarCraft. I can do that at home. We go technology free because you definitely do enjoy the experience more if you don't have the temptation to revert back to your computer.
Anyway, this is just why I don't bring gear along on my trips, YMMV.
- "That's just the kind of fuzzy-headed liberal thinking that leads to being eaten."
I was looking for a new cell plan over the weekend and found out that these guys have something called Express Network which lets you use your cell phone as a digital modem at 144K in a number of cities. In theory it sounds decent - you can get unlimited access for 99 bucks a month (a bit steep) but for me it's worth it to have access wherever I go. I haven't used it yet, as Verizon seems to be clueless about this service since it's so new for them. Figures.
Most University labs require ID, but public libraries and University libraries often have public Internet access, which may or may not require a library card.
However, your route takes you across wide-open spaces, so just sit back and enjoy the ride. Bring lots of pre-recorded tunes, as FM fades out for hours at a time.
Best bet: Leave St. Paul at Oh-Dark-Hundred hours (i.e., much earlier than the commuters), head West on I-94. Forget about Internet access for a day or so, maybe three. Stop at the St. Cloud truck stop and fill a thermos with espresso (last chance before Billings). Drive straight through to Billings (12-14 hours). Spend the night and get espresso at Todd's Plantation, downtown Billings. Continue west on I-90 to Bozeman (University town). Spend a few hours at the Computer Museum one block south of Main on the east end of downtown. Lots of good espresso places, maybe an Internet cafe (ask at the museum). Cross the Continental Divide and take I-15 south at Butte (recrossing the Divide two more times). If you spent a lot of time in Bozeman, you might turn in at Idaho Falls or Pocatello, Idaho (University town) after a very long day of mountains and valleys and few towns. In the morning, fill up with espresso at Pocatello (you might have to look for it), dash south to Salt Lake City and turn right on I-80 to Sacramento and Placerville. Don't count on espresso or Internet until you get to California. Except in large cities, even AOL may be long distance from your motel.
I connected a $40 Rio CD/MP3 player to a $30 iRoc wireless transmitter (the same kind Apple bundles with the iPod) so I can listen to many hours of music on my (AM/FM/cassette only) car radio.
heres a good idea - leave all gadgets behind!
I don't think you've fully grasped the sheer amount of empty space that I-80 cuts through. I can't speak for your whole trip, but I've traveled as far east as Salt Lake City (from Grass Valley). Between Sacramento and Salt Lake City there's basically nothing. Sizable communities between those points include Reno/Sparks, Elko, Auburn, Colfax, and Truckee. Since you live in Placerville, I think you understand what I mean when I say that those last 3 would be considered "sizable communities". Of course, you'd skip those 3 since you'd probably take 50 to Placerville anyway, very few people are masochistic enough to take 80 to 49 to Placerville if they don't absolutely have to.
Anyway, I remember Elko being roughly comparable to Auburn with a bigger hotel, but the rest of those "towns" were basically mostly empty trailer parks with a gas station (with a slot machine if you're lucky!) and maybe a post office. Not exactly the kind of places one would expect to find many WAPs, and even if you did find one I very much doubt it would be hooked up to broadband of any sort.
When I made the drive from GV to SLC it took about 12 hours, with the only real stop (for more than gas) was at the Denny's in Elko. For some perspective on just how far it is, I had Hot Poontang waiting for me in SLC, so it would probably take longer under more "normal" circumstances.
Under capitalism man exploits man. Under communism it's the other way around.
The whole point of being young & going on a road trip is getting the experience to be as close to a "B High School Movie" as possible.
Drunk white trash chicks and a cheap video camera will make you a legend even unto your great-great-grandsons.
At 17 yo I did one of these: 72hrs, 1400 miles, stole 5 Kilo of weed and got one sweet titty-fuck.*
If only we had cheap vieo back then...
*Note: all true except for the titty-fuck. I would have, but after we took the weed we didn't want to stick around Columbia SC.
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should read, ....
At 17 yo I did all of this in 72 hrs: drove 1400 miles
(damn my old age)
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I counted over 40 coming from the other direction (Minnesota). Classy place, that Wall Drug. :)
My dingo ate your honor student.
After Nebraska, the only time my Sprint PCS phone found a digital signal was in / around Salt Lake City, and again within 30 or so miles of Reno. Nothing else. Although that was August 2001, I'd be pleasantly shocked if they'd expanded coverage in the Basin and Range since then.
Heck, they still haven't gotten along I-94 west of Jamestown ND yet, and there's way more people along there than on I-80 between SLC & Reno. Not counting truckers.
+5 INSIGHTFUL!
I'm staying at the Minneapolis Hyatt Regency Hotel for our state DECA conference, and I'm also on my laptop sitting in the *totally free* Business Center. Two Dells, with 17, if not 19" LCDs, P4s, a printer/scanner all in one (HP Laserjet 3330, it's about a foot to my right) and room to hook up either on their broadband (wired, CAT5, DHCP) or dial in through the phone. I'm sitting on the broadband connection, and downloading GTA 1 through Shareaza, as all of the download servers are just packed. If you need any more stuff, email me tonight, I'll check in morning, we leave tommorow afternoon.
There are 4 boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order. Starting now.
I know you're mainly asking about wireless, but if you're ever in a crunch and need to check your email (especially in them big rectangular states,) almost every truck stop (Transamerica, etc.) has an internet kiosk. Can't do much besides check email, but, it can be useful. Another good place: public libraries (also any and every college campus you come across, as has been mentioned.)
I did this same trip along I-80 this past summer, and it was wonderful. Have fun!
-Jen
Ok, maybe the original post sounded a bit too over the top for me. I personally think "techie" vacations are not as ejoyable as "unplugged" ones. If you need to keep up with work, that's pretty much reasonable. Anyway, have a nice trip and enjoy!!!!
please excuse my apathy