I listened to an interview with Richard Clarke this morning on NPR. He basically said that he *knows* that this is outlawed by the DMCA (and other laws against hacking) and suggested that computer professionals try to break only to their own systems, so as to avoid legal wrath.
Uhhh...yeah, isn't this what computer security professionals do *already* as part of the normal course of their everyday jobs? (If not, they *should*:-P)
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Yeah...Pricewatch is what Computer Shopper used to be, only a hell of a lot more convenient and my postal carrier is a lot less disgruntled now.:) The Hard Edge was the BEST! Alice Hill still works for C|Net I think... I've seen a few commentary articles from her anyway.
Yeah. By far my favorite hard drive manufacturer is IBM...most of the Deskstar hard drives I've had have been good, fast (in their time), reliable and relatively cheap. My primary box has an ultra ATA 100 120GB IBM Deskstar and I'm pretty happy with it so far. Its fast, quiet and only cost me $125.:) I don't usually do RAID for desktops, but I might RAID 5 this with another drive sometime because they are so cheap.:)
Now I hear people say this all the time. But in my nearly (oh wait, this is 2002...we can skip the 'nearly' part now:-P) 20 years of computing experience, I have only had 2 drives that ever died on me (like totally dead, not just developed a few bad sectors or whatever) and they were both Maxtor drives. And I have owned drives that were manufactured by Maxtor, Western Digital, IBM, Seagate, Kalok, Fuji, Quantum, Toshiba and another company that I can't remember the name of right now...:)
Slashdot is A) not a Linux site (running Linux and being ABOUT Linux are too different things) and B) actually creates quite a bit of original content...oh wait, JonKatz doesn't count, never mind.:)
And anyway, who said all the decent content was on Linux sites?
Not too long before anything with decent content goes subscription based (excluding volunteer-run sites perhaps), except for the academic stuff, but then again, some universities have decided to restrict access to the 'good' content to behind the campus firewall, leaving just course descriptions and such publically accessible.
It doesn't matter what's the most unsecure OS in its default install. Everybody knows that Linux is NOT a desktop OS, it's an IT Geeks OS. And any IT geek worth his salt knows how to make any given operating system that he's about to install secure. (And if he doesn't he definitely shouldn't be installing it at all.:)
Who are you calling a conservative? I'm more of a Jeffersonian liberal really. I'm also a card-carrying member of the Libertarian party.:-P
If Gore had won, I still wouldn't be saying it was Gore's fault.
This WCOM stuff started happening before Bush came into office anyway. You are committing the classic logical fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc (and I'm sure I spelled that wrong). Just because event A occurs after event B, that doesn't mean that event B caused event A.
You can't blame this on Bush. Or the government. Or the Democrats or the Republicans.Or anybody really but the morons at Worldcom and they're auditing firm who thought this would be a good idea.
The legal system has never been able to stop corruption. Corruption goes back at least to the time of Hammurabi. Probably earlier.
Students of this sort of thing are taught all about the problems of getting speech recognition to work in noisy environments, in a car, in a restaurant, in a busy street etc. On top of the noise compensation problems, you have something called the Lombard effect, which means that when they're in a noisy environment PEOPLE TEND TO SHOUT INTO THEIR PHONE to try and make themselves heard. And this means that the speech you used to train your phone in your nice quiet office no longer matches the aggressive shouty tone of voice you're currently using.
I have a Samsung wireless phone from Srint PCS and the voice recognition seems to work at least some of the time when I'm in a crowded room. If there's too much background noise, it won't work no matter what. But in an average restaurant it seems to work fine, it's when you go to a bar with noisy music and people talking loudly that it tends not to work, shouting or no shouting.
This is like the chicken and the egg story. Only with warez, what came first, extremely high prices for software or software pirates? Software developers always whine about how pirates drive costs through the roof, and pirates always whine about how they dont but their software because its too overpriced.
Piracy is as old as packaged software itself. When mainframes ruled the Earth, software was mostly 'free' and came with the machine.
Then some moron named Bill Gates came around and started a company called Traf-O-Data and started selling software to municipalities. Later this same guy and his equally moronic partner Paul Allen started selling this thing called MicroSoft BASIC under the company name of MicroSoft. Maybe you've heard of them.:) Initially they sold stuff to OEMs and then later sold stuff directly to customers.
Then they started whining about people copying their tapes. This would happen at places like the Homebrew Computer Club, where legendary engineers like Steve "The Woz" Wozniak would hang out. Of course they'd all doing nothing but copying MicroSoft tapes and Bill Gates wanted to kill them all, but he was just a little tyke then.:)
Congress will be lobbied that ISPs must be responsible for the traffic that passes across their switches.
Yeah, just like they make the telcos responsible for everything that passes across their networks? Just like they make the USPS and UPS and FedEx responsible for everything that they deliver? Just like they make the wireless communications operators responsible for all the data carried on their lines?
Obviously none of this happens. The reason is that as common carriers, these companies are exempt from liability as to the content of the data (or goods) that they carry. If someone overnights you a mailbomb, you don't have any recourse to win a case against FedEx. Wireless companies are not responsible for drug deals that happen over their wireless phone networks.
These laws can and do apply to ISPs. There are PLENTY of legal precedents for the courts to throw out any laws that would be passed involving making ISPs liable for their traffic, especially since its something that they can't control on a practical level.
OK, so you have more than one drive in your PC, but how many of the billion PCs sold have more than one? Servers do but they make up a very small (albeit highly profitable) segment of the HDD market. Most are installed in desktop PCs and, nowadays, most people don't use more than a fraction of the 20GB+ drives that come with a modern PC. Heck, even 5GB, the kind of capacity that was typical on an entry-level desktop three years ago is more than most users get through.
Let's add to MP3 fiends: gamers, 3D CAD users (I have assemblies that are 5 GB by themselves), animators, musicians, software developers, videographers, etc. These people need high--end computers.
Everyone else uses them as glorified typewriters and Internet terminals. These people can get by on 500 MHz processors, 128 MB of RAM, and 5-7 GB hard drives.
Unfortunately 'everyone else' is the majority of people. What is needed here is a killer app for this new hardware. Something that REQUIRES all of this newfound processor speed, hard drive capacity and RAM capacity. The Internet has been the killer app.
The Internet, as we all know, doesn't require gobs and gobs of speed. Not yet. Not while dialup lines are the primary way people connect to the Internet. Not until broadband is available everywhere for cheap will the Internet be a viable killer app for new hardware.
Digital photography and video were supposed to be a killer app. But these are a niche market segments, and compression has gotten better and better.....for some people this is a killer app, for others, its not.
The problem is that there is no one universal killer app anymore. Advances in hardware technology are increasingly moving toward being utilized differently by different market niches. And computer manufacturers didn't imagine that the ILECs would try to derail broadband access like they have...because otherwise, this would be THE universal killer app...but it's not, and it's not likely to be anytime in the near future.
We need to abandon this whole concept of Internet as killer app I think for now...if we want technology to progress, it has to have something to rally around. In the late 70s, early 80s it was the spreadsheet. In the late 80s/early 90s it was the GUI and desktop publishing. In the mid-to-late 90s it was the Internet. Now its....?
Right you can't name it without saying "high speed Internet." But that's not a reality... and until that is, I daresay Moore's law will slow to a crawl.
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I'd like to see the same thing!
Yeah...I noticed that too...
:)
Dipshits. If I find a flaw, I'm going right to BugTraq or Security Watch.
I know. I said that's what he said. I didn't say it made sense. :)
I listened to an interview with Richard Clarke this morning on NPR. He basically said that he *knows* that this is outlawed by the DMCA (and other laws against hacking) and suggested that computer professionals try to break only to their own systems, so as to avoid legal wrath.
:-P)
Uhhh...yeah, isn't this what computer security professionals do *already* as part of the normal course of their everyday jobs? (If not, they *should*
Some people don't understand technology, and those that understand technology don't understand some people. :)
Ehhh...shopper.com isn't good for price shopping though.... they only have a few vendors, and the prices aren't that great, quite honestly.
pricewatch has a ton of vendors and you can get some great bargains on there.
Can you say Quake? Typing this really slow becase S L A S H D O T 2 0 S E C O N D R U L E I S F S C K I N G L A M E ! ! !
This is funniest damn post I've ever seen!
Yeah...Pricewatch is what Computer Shopper used to be, only a hell of a lot more convenient and my postal carrier is a lot less disgruntled now. :) The Hard Edge was the BEST! Alice Hill still works for C|Net I think... I've seen a few commentary articles from her anyway.
Got an AMD 1800+ XP w/nVidia GeForce 440MX running on ECS motherboard with AGP 4x enabled. Very stable. Of course, I'm running Gentoo Linux... :-P
Yeah. By far my favorite hard drive manufacturer is IBM...most of the Deskstar hard drives I've had have been good, fast (in their time), reliable and relatively cheap. My primary box has an ultra ATA 100 120GB IBM Deskstar and I'm pretty happy with it so far. Its fast, quiet and only cost me $125. :) I don't usually do RAID for desktops, but I might RAID 5 this with another drive sometime because they are so cheap. :)
Now I hear people say this all the time. But in my nearly (oh wait, this is 2002...we can skip the 'nearly' part now :-P) 20 years of computing experience, I have only had 2 drives that ever died on me (like totally dead, not just developed a few bad sectors or whatever) and they were both Maxtor drives. And I have owned drives that were manufactured by Maxtor, Western Digital, IBM, Seagate, Kalok, Fuji, Quantum, Toshiba and another company that I can't remember the name of right now... :)
Pulling numbers out of my arse;
... :)
/. has more than just a 3M contract...
Why yes you are
USD$1200 will NOT get you anything CLOSE to to 3MB connection, and I'm sure
Slashdot is A) not a Linux site (running Linux and being ABOUT Linux are too different things) and B) actually creates quite a bit of original content...oh wait, JonKatz doesn't count, never mind. :)
And anyway, who said all the decent content was on Linux sites?
Not too long before anything with decent content goes subscription based (excluding volunteer-run sites perhaps), except for the academic stuff, but then again, some universities have decided to restrict access to the 'good' content to behind the campus firewall, leaving just course descriptions and such publically accessible.
Garby sold the chips from his computer store, Kustum Komputers
:)
Maybe they specialized in machines with KDE as their primary desktop.
It doesn't matter what's the most unsecure OS in its default install. Everybody knows that Linux is NOT a desktop OS, it's an IT Geeks OS. And any IT geek worth his salt knows how to make any given operating system that he's about to install secure. (And if he doesn't he definitely shouldn't be installing it at all. :)
Who are you calling a conservative? I'm more of a Jeffersonian liberal really. I'm also a card-carrying member of the Libertarian party. :-P
If Gore had won, I still wouldn't be saying it was Gore's fault.
This WCOM stuff started happening before Bush came into office anyway. You are committing the classic logical fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc (and I'm sure I spelled that wrong). Just because event A occurs after event B, that doesn't mean that event B caused event A.
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You can't blame this on Bush. Or the government. Or the Democrats or the Republicans.Or anybody really but the morons at Worldcom and they're auditing firm who thought this would be a good idea.
The legal system has never been able to stop corruption. Corruption goes back at least to the time of Hammurabi. Probably earlier.
Laws are a deterrent, but not much of one.
Students of this sort of thing are taught all about the problems of getting speech recognition to work in noisy environments, in a car, in a restaurant, in a busy street etc. On top of the noise compensation problems, you have something called the Lombard effect, which means that when they're in a noisy environment PEOPLE TEND TO SHOUT INTO THEIR PHONE to try and make themselves heard. And this means that the speech you used to train your phone in your nice quiet office no longer matches the aggressive shouty tone of voice you're currently using.
I have a Samsung wireless phone from Srint PCS and the voice recognition seems to work at least some of the time when I'm in a crowded room. If there's too much background noise, it won't work no matter what. But in an average restaurant it seems to work fine, it's when you go to a bar with noisy music and people talking loudly that it tends not to work, shouting or no shouting.
"The more I think about, ol' Billy was right. Let's kill all the lawyers, kill 'em tonight."
:)
-- The Eagles, Get Over It
Oops. Forgot about the RIAA...
This is like the chicken and the egg story. Only with warez, what came first, extremely high prices for software or software pirates? Software developers always whine about how pirates drive costs through the roof, and pirates always whine about how they dont but their software because its too overpriced.
:) Initially they sold stuff to OEMs and then later sold stuff directly to customers.
:)
Piracy is as old as packaged software itself. When mainframes ruled the Earth, software was mostly 'free' and came with the machine.
Then some moron named Bill Gates came around and started a company called Traf-O-Data and started selling software to municipalities. Later this same guy and his equally moronic partner Paul Allen started selling this thing called MicroSoft BASIC under the company name of MicroSoft. Maybe you've heard of them.
Then they started whining about people copying their tapes. This would happen at places like the Homebrew Computer Club, where legendary engineers like Steve "The Woz" Wozniak would hang out. Of course they'd all doing nothing but copying MicroSoft tapes and Bill Gates wanted to kill them all, but he was just a little tyke then.
Congress will be lobbied that ISPs must be responsible for the traffic that passes across their switches.
Yeah, just like they make the telcos responsible for everything that passes across their networks? Just like they make the USPS and UPS and FedEx responsible for everything that they deliver? Just like they make the wireless communications operators responsible for all the data carried on their lines?
Obviously none of this happens. The reason is that as common carriers, these companies are exempt from liability as to the content of the data (or goods) that they carry. If someone overnights you a mailbomb, you don't have any recourse to win a case against FedEx. Wireless companies are not responsible for drug deals that happen over their wireless phone networks.
These laws can and do apply to ISPs. There are PLENTY of legal precedents for the courts to throw out any laws that would be passed involving making ISPs liable for their traffic, especially since its something that they can't control on a practical level.
OK, so you have more than one drive in your PC, but how many of the billion PCs sold have more than one? Servers do but they make up a very small (albeit highly profitable) segment of the HDD market. Most are installed in desktop PCs and, nowadays, most people don't use more than a fraction of the 20GB+ drives that come with a modern PC. Heck, even 5GB, the kind of capacity that was typical on an entry-level desktop three years ago is more than most users get through.
Let's add to MP3 fiends: gamers, 3D CAD users (I have assemblies that are 5 GB by themselves), animators, musicians, software developers, videographers, etc. These people need high--end computers.
Everyone else uses them as glorified typewriters and Internet terminals. These people can get by on 500 MHz processors, 128 MB of RAM, and 5-7 GB hard drives.
Unfortunately 'everyone else' is the majority of people. What is needed here is a killer app for this new hardware. Something that REQUIRES all of this newfound processor speed, hard drive capacity and RAM capacity. The Internet has been the killer app.
The Internet, as we all know, doesn't require gobs and gobs of speed. Not yet. Not while dialup lines are the primary way people connect to the Internet. Not until broadband is available everywhere for cheap will the Internet be a viable killer app for new hardware.
Digital photography and video were supposed to be a killer app. But these are a niche market segments, and compression has gotten better and better.....for some people this is a killer app, for others, its not.
The problem is that there is no one universal killer app anymore. Advances in hardware technology are increasingly moving toward being utilized differently by different market niches. And computer manufacturers didn't imagine that the ILECs would try to derail broadband access like they have...because otherwise, this would be THE universal killer app...but it's not, and it's not likely to be anytime in the near future.
We need to abandon this whole concept of Internet as killer app I think for now...if we want technology to progress, it has to have something to rally around. In the late 70s, early 80s it was the spreadsheet. In the late 80s/early 90s it was the GUI and desktop publishing. In the mid-to-late 90s it was the Internet. Now its....?
Right you can't name it without saying "high speed Internet." But that's not a reality... and until that is, I daresay Moore's law will slow to a crawl.