This has been asked in previous related stories, but I don't believe anyone provided an answer.
Is there an e-mail contact(s) that we can write to in an attempt to "educate" the industry that they are walking over the rights of those who choose non-proprietary software and who have paid for DVD materials like everybody else?
Looking at the RPM's available on their ftp site, I noticed pretty well all of the RPM's are for i586 or above (ie. a 486 user buying this distro is going to be unhappy), and another thing...what's with the ``mdk'' suffix at the end of every package name?
- RPM was supposed to be a distro independant package format for Linux applications. Ie. I should be able to apply RPM's from Red Hat's distro to my TurboLinux (or any other) distro. But try it sometime.:p (In LinuxOne's case, the ``mdk'' suffix will likely interfere when you try to upgrade RPM's from other sources)
I watched it on video during the summer in Japan. The artwork was pretty rich but I found the story blasse. Perhaps my Japanese skills weren't strong enough to fully appreciate it -- but then again my girlfriend, who is Japanese, didn't think much of it either.
The "V" GUI applications framework is something that has interested me for some time (although, admittedly, I haven't put any effort into learning it -- PHP3 is keeping me busy enough these days). It allows you to write your application to one GUI API, and have it port very easily between X, Win16, Win32, and possibly Mac as well.
"V" is under the GPL, too...perhaps some interested coders could look into extending it to support your choice of widget libraries and other GUI environments.
...have probably never tried installing Win95! Now that is an operating system that will cause your blood to boil and your hair to thin. Getting it installed involves several reboots. Then, once installed, you invariably find several devices improperly detected and/or misconfigured [ gotta like those Question Mark devices:-) ]. Ten to twenty reboots later, you have all your devices configured, Netscape installed (you have to reboot after installing Netscape? HUH?), etc. Win98 is better but still not as easy as Linux is to install.
After futzing around with installing Japanese Win95 on an IntelliStation for most of the day, I then installed Linux on an identical system. From start to finish, I was done in 30 minutes -- which involved only one reboot, at the end of the installation process.
By the way, Jon, if you want to see how simple a Linux installation can be, I highly recommend you grab a copy of Red Hat 6.1. Their graphical installation process is sweet -- full help text for just about every option -- but you're not locked into the GUI if you're trying to install on older hardware. Try THAT with MacOS or Blows.
[ Although I do admit printing and X-based font configuration still could use some dumbing down;-) ]
Finally, let me throw in a plug for my LAME Guide which I believe successfully covers a lot of ground.
Reuters(tm): "A spokeswoman for Microsoft said that Red Hat's outage is proof that Linux should not be considered stable and reliable. 'Microsoft servers, located on the West Coast, will continue to operate normally throughout the duration of this storm'."
Would somebody be kind enough as to pass along the command-line arguments to burn a bootable RH 6.0 CD? I've made 3 coasters so far...here are the arguments I'm using:
mkisofs -a -b images/boot.img -c boot.cat -A "Red Hat 6.0 for i386" -f -d -l -N -P "CD image written by Steve Frampton " -R -T -v -o/home/frampton/rh60-i386.iso .
By the way, it'd also be nice to know how I can update some of the RPM files first before creating the ISO file. It appears to involve more than just replacing the appropriate RPM's.:-)
I let it go the first time, but now I'm pissed. "Linux is a religion"..."punk young kids"..."no one to sue but a kid in Norway"..."We can steal what we want"... [some parts paraphrased].
It is clearly obvious how scared, desperate, and bitter Michels is towards Linux. He can see his bottom line shrinking right from under him. I can picture him in the interview, I bet you his heart was pounding and the spit was flying out of his mouth as he spouted his angry vitriole.
Keep whining, SCO. Because your customers (current or prospective) can see right through them and your ship will only sink faster.
I've refrained from bashing SCO, but I will now do so at every chance I get.
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This is another example of why I really dislike April Fools' Day. Something reported on April 1st can be picked up by other media thereafter, and people take it seriously. Call me humour impaired, but I don't find lies all that funny.
Basically, I ignored everything I saw here on Slashdot on April 1st (and therefore, I may have missed some bonafide news). Now I have to be cautious about stuff I read several days thereafter...
No, Logan, you *can't* do the types of things you are saying. Try hanging a sign saying, "No Negroes" on your rental property. See how long it stays up before you are convinced to take it down.
Yeah, it's *my* business, so I shouldn't have to pay fair wages, or give lunches and coffee breaks, give my employees a day off on stat holidays, etc., right? There will still be plenty of people who don't mind being exploited, after all!
Yeah, it's *my* rental property, so I shouldn't have to rent it to any of those ornery minority types, right?
When you're in business, you have a responsibility to play fair and abide by legislation. Microsoft obviously hasn't and doesn't, and they deserve whatever they have coming to them.
This is a bit OT but I've never been able to find an extended TACACS server which supported PAM. I use the Vikas version of xtacacsd, and when I asked him to consider adding PAM support he said, "Oh, yet *another* Unix security standard" and suggested I try another version. Basically, I need shadow support in TACACS. This was no problem under Slackware, but I get a "No such lib -lshadow" compile error under Red Hat (because this kind of security is done with PAM, if I am correct). I got around this by keeping a shadow passwd file for regular logins, and a non-shadow version for TACACS log-ins, but it's such a hassle. I'd really like to be able to have shadow support for TACACS under Red Hat Linux. Switching to RADIUS is not an option, unfortunately. Any ideas? I can be reached at 3srf@qlink.queensu.ca, or you can post your thoughts here. Thanks!
When MS-Linux is eventually released (and I would be surprised if a behemoth like Microsoft doesn't do *something* significant while they are sinking in the tar sands) we need to be diligent and remind the PHB's why the proprietary, closed source development model is not an ideal one for the software industry.
I just hope Microsoft doesn't react for at least two more years. That's all we need to reach impetus for the desktop.
Well, I hope this helps to convince the developers that they should Open Source their code. When is the computing community going to be freed from the whims of the proprietary, closed source paradigm of software development?
Proof that the Open Source paradigm is really a much safer one to build one's business on, instead of one that could instantly dry up when a vendor either goes out of business or chooses to no longer support their software.
I did some development of a rather huge database application back in the days of DOS using Borland C++ 3.0. I also saved a hell of a lot of time with precompiled headers.
This would be a *nice* feature for gcc/egcs. How does one convince the developers, however?
Jeff Bazos, founder of Amazon, is the #1 most influential man in computing? Hmmm...the only thing noteworthy about Amazon is that they think it is okay to spam to peddle their books.
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This has been asked in previous related stories, but I don't believe anyone provided an answer.
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Is there an e-mail contact(s) that we can write to in an attempt to "educate" the industry that they are walking over the rights of those who choose non-proprietary software and who have paid for DVD materials like everybody else?
Let them phear the
Looking at the RPM's available on their ftp site, I noticed pretty well all of the RPM's are for i586 or above (ie. a 486 user buying this distro is going to be unhappy), and another thing...what's with the ``mdk'' suffix at the end of every package name?
- RPM was supposed to be a distro independant package format for Linux applications. Ie. I should be able to apply RPM's from Red Hat's distro to my TurboLinux (or any other) distro. But try it sometime. :p (In LinuxOne's case, the ``mdk'' suffix will likely interfere when you try to upgrade RPM's from other sources)
I watched it on video during the summer in Japan. The artwork was pretty rich but I found the story blasse. Perhaps my Japanese skills weren't strong enough to fully appreciate it -- but then again my girlfriend, who is Japanese, didn't think much of it either.
:-)
Nice artwork, though.
The "V" GUI applications framework is something that has interested me for some time (although, admittedly, I haven't put any effort into learning it -- PHP3 is keeping me busy enough these days). It allows you to write your application to one GUI API, and have it port very easily between X, Win16, Win32, and possibly Mac as well.
"V" is under the GPL, too...perhaps some interested coders could look into extending it to support your choice of widget libraries and other GUI environments.
...have probably never tried installing Win95! Now that is an operating system that will cause your blood to boil and your hair to thin. Getting it installed involves several reboots. Then, once installed, you invariably find several devices improperly detected and/or misconfigured [ gotta like those Question Mark devices :-) ]. Ten to twenty reboots later, you have all your devices configured, Netscape installed (you have to reboot after installing Netscape? HUH?), etc. Win98 is better but still not as easy as Linux is to install.
After futzing around with installing Japanese Win95 on an IntelliStation for most of the day, I then installed Linux on an identical system. From start to finish, I was done in 30 minutes -- which involved only one reboot, at the end of the installation process.
By the way, Jon, if you want to see how simple a Linux installation can be, I highly recommend you grab a copy of Red Hat 6.1. Their graphical installation process is sweet -- full help text for just about every option -- but you're not locked into the GUI if you're trying to install on older hardware. Try THAT with MacOS or Blows.
[ Although I do admit printing and X-based font configuration still could use some dumbing downFinally, let me throw in a plug for my LAME Guide which I believe successfully covers a lot of ground.
Reuters(tm): "A spokeswoman for Microsoft said that Red Hat's outage is proof that Linux should not be considered stable and reliable. 'Microsoft servers, located on the West Coast, will continue to operate normally throughout the duration of this storm'."
Thanks; I'll give that a try. [ What about replacing the RPM's with updates? :-) ]
Would somebody be kind enough as to pass along the command-line arguments to burn a bootable RH 6.0 CD? I've made 3 coasters so far...here are the arguments I'm using:
mkisofs -a -b images/boot.img -c boot.cat -A "Red Hat 6.0 for i386" -f -d -l -N -P "CD image written by Steve Frampton " -R -T -v -oBy the way, it'd also be nice to know how I can update some of the RPM files first before creating the ISO file. It appears to involve more than just replacing the appropriate RPM's. :-)
I let it go the first time, but now I'm pissed. "Linux is a religion"..."punk young kids"..."no one to sue but a kid in Norway"..."We can steal what we want"... [some parts paraphrased].
It is clearly obvious how scared, desperate, and bitter Michels is towards Linux. He can see his bottom line shrinking right from under him. I can picture him in the interview, I bet you his heart was pounding and the spit was flying out of his mouth as he spouted his angry vitriole.
Keep whining, SCO. Because your customers (current or prospective) can see right through them and your ship will only sink faster.
I've refrained from bashing SCO, but I will now do so at every chance I get.
This is another example of why I really dislike April Fools' Day. Something reported on April 1st can be picked up by other media thereafter, and people take it seriously. Call me humour impaired, but I don't find lies all that funny.
Basically, I ignored everything I saw here on Slashdot on April 1st (and therefore, I may have missed some bonafide news). Now I have to be cautious about stuff I read several days thereafter...
No, Logan, you *can't* do the types of things you are saying. Try hanging a sign saying, "No Negroes" on your rental property. See how long it stays up before you are convinced to take it down.
Yeah, it's *my* business, so I shouldn't have to pay fair wages, or give lunches and coffee breaks, give my employees a day off on stat holidays, etc., right? There will still be plenty of people who don't mind being exploited, after all!
Yeah, it's *my* rental property, so I shouldn't have to rent it to any of those ornery minority types, right?
When you're in business, you have a responsibility to play fair and abide by legislation. Microsoft obviously hasn't and doesn't, and they deserve whatever they have coming to them.
Yes, of *course* I checked on Dejanews (several times). But none of the suggestions have yet been helpful. That's why I posted to SlashDot. :p
This is a bit OT but I've never been able to find an extended TACACS server which supported PAM. I use the Vikas version of xtacacsd, and when I asked him to consider adding PAM support he said, "Oh, yet *another* Unix security standard" and suggested I try another version. Basically, I need shadow support in TACACS. This was no problem under Slackware, but I get a "No such lib -lshadow" compile error under Red Hat (because this kind of security is done with PAM, if I am correct). I got around this by keeping a shadow passwd file for regular logins, and a non-shadow version for TACACS log-ins, but it's such a hassle. I'd really like to be able to have shadow support for TACACS under Red Hat Linux. Switching to RADIUS is not an option, unfortunately. Any ideas? I can be reached at 3srf@qlink.queensu.ca, or you can post your thoughts here. Thanks!
It'd be a lot fairer than the Fiasco that was the Holyfield-Lewis bout last night. :-)
All Microsoft has to do is *announce* they are working on a port, and you can bet your bottom dollar there goes Corel's stock prices.
I was planning on doing some first-time investing with some Corel stocks, too. (Well, at least I have yet *another* reason to despise Micros~1.)
Woo hoo, with GNOME released that means Red Hat 6.0 might be out within a month and a half.
It's going to be a wild year, folks!
When MS-Linux is eventually released (and I would be surprised if a behemoth like Microsoft doesn't do *something* significant while they are sinking in the tar sands) we need to be diligent and remind the PHB's why the proprietary, closed source development model is not an ideal one for the software industry.
I just hope Microsoft doesn't react for at least two more years. That's all we need to reach impetus for the desktop.
Well, I hope this helps to convince the developers that they should Open Source their code. When is the computing community going to be freed from the whims of the proprietary, closed source paradigm of software development?
Proof that the Open Source paradigm is really a much safer one to build one's business on, instead of one that could instantly dry up when a vendor either goes out of business or chooses to no longer support their software.
Man, the Anonymous Cowards are thick tonight.
I did some development of a rather huge database application back in the days of DOS using Borland C++ 3.0. I also saved a hell of a lot of time with precompiled headers.
This would be a *nice* feature for gcc/egcs. How does one convince the developers, however?
Jeff Bazos, founder of Amazon, is the #1 most influential man in computing? Hmmm...the only thing noteworthy about Amazon is that they think it is okay to spam to peddle their books.
Linus is my god.
Stop the madness, people! The classic Intel P166 is helluva fast enough. :-)