I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think violating terms of service is illegal. At most, it would be a contract violation. There is a small chance that the 'fraud' thing could bite you, but unlikely if you're not impersonating another human.
Yeah I agree. I have my CS degree and I love my internet, but I came of web-age in 1997, 8 and 9, so I like email and web pages more than the techs that have come out to replace them.
Social networking sites are starting to grow on me, but only a tiny bit. I do love podcasts, because ever since I was a child I thought TV with commercials, no pause/record/playback, and on someone else's schedule was folly. Some people call them podcasts, I just call them radio: now I listen to my radio/tv from a menu (the menu on my iPod) instead of from a guide (the TV Guide).
RSS feeds are pretty sweet but frankly not sweet enough for me to go out and discover on my own, so I appreciate ones that come to me for free (specifically, Firefox's RSS news link). My calendar hangs on my wall, and I find that more convenient than any computer calendar I've ever found, but that's probably because I'm a simple guy and don't need to schedule more than a couple things on any given day, at most. I can understand the benefit of a Google Calendar to people who are very busy and need to coordinate with lots of other people. Also, for egoists.
Same with Flickr. I love my digicam but I don't have much of a compulsion to show my pics to the rest of the world. They're on my own site, they're not hidden or anything, but I don't need to share them actively.
I never got into chat either. I've used it as a tool and it's okay, but I much prefer email because it is non-live. I like audio chat when it works with something else I'm doing. For instance, when I play card games online (I like euchre), I can audio chat with the other participants, and that improves the experience.
Web 2.0 stuff is pretty compelling. Google Maps is the bomb (true that, double true). I appreciate the more complex and compelling interfaces offered on the web today. There was a time in 2000, 2001 and thereabouts where companies were putting all kinds of applications on the web, but the web wasn't up to the task, so we were all doing things on the web that we should have been doing on desktop apps. Now things are a lot better. My bank's website has animated windows that fade in and out and overlap, and it's an interface just about as compelling as any desktop app I've used.
This is trite and perhaps obvious, but one thing the internet is fantastically perfect for is... porn. My god, what if we all still had to go out and walk to a porno theatre to see stag films? That would be terrible.
Point of order: the brick wall is in the original; and they didn't move the white sleeve from right to left so much as they flipped the whole picture horizontally.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, dude, back up. Who do you think you are, bringing a truthful, well-informed, coherent argument to a Slashdot forum? Where do you get off?
All jokes aside, my only response to what you said is that it would be swell if the law were easy enough to understand that we didn't need professionals to mediate it for us. Also, I don't really see the big rukus with the Virgin-to-Virgin tag. The parents are complaining about that? Golly, good thing Richard Branson didn't name his company Slutty Whore.
The people supposedly keeping us safe are morons and can't tell the difference between a breadboard full of LED's and a real threat.
Please explain how to reliably tell the difference between a breadboard full of LEDs and a real threat. I know what a breadboard looks like, but I don't know what a real threat looks like, and I can certainly imagine a real threat looking a lot like a breadboard. So, please, enlighten me.
Yeah. That would be awesome. That's exactly what I want -- to pay the price they sold me the service for. Moreover, that's exactly what the lawsuit is about.
This is a general problem with "fees". A charge applied to all customers is not a fee -- IT'S A PRICE. I mean, could you say "One dollar a month for cell phone service!" and then have a forty dollar fee? No? Why not? Today I pay about $11 per month to my cell company in fees, on a sixty dollar plan.
Same problem with airfare. Ever notice that "9/11 anti-terrorism fee"? What the fuck is that? How can I avoid paying this "fee", and if there is no way, then why the shit is it a line item instead of being rolled into the price? If you're going to split out the cost of security, why not split out the cost of, say, the airline seat? the airplane itself? Maybe a gangplank fee?
This is different than a *cost*. If an airline wants to charge me a dollar for a soda pop, then that pisses me off, but I'm not going to get all indignant about it. That's a cost. I'll pay it if I want the soda. I can avoid the cost if I want to. Imagine if airlines charged a "meal fee" but then charged you whether you ate or not. That would be a fee! It would be part of the fucking cost!
Yeah, maybe. I dunno, though, it really does take a village to raise a child. Sounds to me like this guy was overstepping his authority (it wasn't even his store, it's a franchise). Still, mom isn't always there to stop a child from doing the wrong thing, and in those situations it is appropriate to step in for the missing mom. (The person stepping in, though, should not be the government.)
Not in this case, though. It's a silly policy in the first place, and implemented in an inappropriate place (someone else's store).
I think you are wrong. It is perfectly fine for a grocer to refuse to sell you his goods because he thinks something bad about you. It's also perfectly fine for a game store owner to refuse to sell his goods to whoever he wants.
However, if it is not your store, or if your store is part of a franchise (as in this case), then it is perfectly fine for the person whose money you are losing to fire you (as in this case). If this guy wants to refuse service to people (which is a recognized right of business owners, with certain exclusions), he needs to do it in a store where other people don't call the shots.
What I'm saying is, nothing to see here, everyone move along.
The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits. -Albert Einstein
Dude, did Einstein incorrectly punctuate that sentence, was it someone who passed on that quote, or was it you? That semicolon makes no sense whatsoever. A colon would be okay, or nothing at all; but not a comma, and certainly not a semicolon. Do yourself a favor and just eliminate it.
In their sideways? What's a sideways? How many sideways does Verizon have? How do the fees go into their sideways? Is a sideway like a bag or a satchel, or more like a pocket? or is it more like a bank account?
That's insightful and true. RMS should hire some liutinent to be the public face, people equally committed to the principles but who are nicer, softer, gentler, and shorn.
Well, one half of one percent of eighty thousand dollars is four hundred bucks. To fill up a 160 gig iPod with nothing but songs from major labels, that seems a reasonable amount. After all, that's a heck of a lot of music.
But two hundred times that amount does not sound reasonable at all.
What if I have my son to go thru the paper and take out all the ads before I pick up the newspaper. Say furthermore that it is a free little paper paid for by its advertisements.
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But, wouldn't that cause the internet that I sent last Friday not to be delivered until today?
/I live in Juneau, Alaska's capital.
No! No! No! No! No!
Wait, last I heard we were all boycotting Amazon for the 1-click patent. Did they give up that patent or did we get impatient and greedy?
Instead you should raise funds for a Nerd Scholarship In Physical Education.
I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think violating terms of service is illegal. At most, it would be a contract violation. There is a small chance that the 'fraud' thing could bite you, but unlikely if you're not impersonating another human.
Besides, you know, fuck it.
This was billed as the "first American GPL lawsuit". So... what companies are you referring to?
Yes. From now on let's call mashups "blowjobs".
Yeah I agree. I have my CS degree and I love my internet, but I came of web-age in 1997, 8 and 9, so I like email and web pages more than the techs that have come out to replace them.
Social networking sites are starting to grow on me, but only a tiny bit. I do love podcasts, because ever since I was a child I thought TV with commercials, no pause/record/playback, and on someone else's schedule was folly. Some people call them podcasts, I just call them radio: now I listen to my radio/tv from a menu (the menu on my iPod) instead of from a guide (the TV Guide).
RSS feeds are pretty sweet but frankly not sweet enough for me to go out and discover on my own, so I appreciate ones that come to me for free (specifically, Firefox's RSS news link). My calendar hangs on my wall, and I find that more convenient than any computer calendar I've ever found, but that's probably because I'm a simple guy and don't need to schedule more than a couple things on any given day, at most. I can understand the benefit of a Google Calendar to people who are very busy and need to coordinate with lots of other people. Also, for egoists.
Same with Flickr. I love my digicam but I don't have much of a compulsion to show my pics to the rest of the world. They're on my own site, they're not hidden or anything, but I don't need to share them actively.
I never got into chat either. I've used it as a tool and it's okay, but I much prefer email because it is non-live. I like audio chat when it works with something else I'm doing. For instance, when I play card games online (I like euchre), I can audio chat with the other participants, and that improves the experience.
Web 2.0 stuff is pretty compelling. Google Maps is the bomb (true that, double true). I appreciate the more complex and compelling interfaces offered on the web today. There was a time in 2000, 2001 and thereabouts where companies were putting all kinds of applications on the web, but the web wasn't up to the task, so we were all doing things on the web that we should have been doing on desktop apps. Now things are a lot better. My bank's website has animated windows that fade in and out and overlap, and it's an interface just about as compelling as any desktop app I've used.
This is trite and perhaps obvious, but one thing the internet is fantastically perfect for is... porn. My god, what if we all still had to go out and walk to a porno theatre to see stag films? That would be terrible.
Point of order: the brick wall is in the original; and they didn't move the white sleeve from right to left so much as they flipped the whole picture horizontally.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, dude, back up. Who do you think you are, bringing a truthful, well-informed, coherent argument to a Slashdot forum? Where do you get off?
All jokes aside, my only response to what you said is that it would be swell if the law were easy enough to understand that we didn't need professionals to mediate it for us. Also, I don't really see the big rukus with the Virgin-to-Virgin tag. The parents are complaining about that? Golly, good thing Richard Branson didn't name his company Slutty Whore.
Than. "Then" is a temporal adjective.
Mods, you got it wrong. Parent is not funny, it's insightful. Plus, the GP doesn't address the question of buying content with no physical medium.
The people supposedly keeping us safe are morons and can't tell the difference between a breadboard full of LED's and a real threat.
Please explain how to reliably tell the difference between a breadboard full of LEDs and a real threat. I know what a breadboard looks like, but I don't know what a real threat looks like, and I can certainly imagine a real threat looking a lot like a breadboard. So, please, enlighten me.
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Yeah. That would be awesome. That's exactly what I want -- to pay the price they sold me the service for. Moreover, that's exactly what the lawsuit is about.
This is a general problem with "fees". A charge applied to all customers is not a fee -- IT'S A PRICE. I mean, could you say "One dollar a month for cell phone service!" and then have a forty dollar fee? No? Why not? Today I pay about $11 per month to my cell company in fees, on a sixty dollar plan.
Same problem with airfare. Ever notice that "9/11 anti-terrorism fee"? What the fuck is that? How can I avoid paying this "fee", and if there is no way, then why the shit is it a line item instead of being rolled into the price? If you're going to split out the cost of security, why not split out the cost of, say, the airline seat? the airplane itself? Maybe a gangplank fee?
This is different than a *cost*. If an airline wants to charge me a dollar for a soda pop, then that pisses me off, but I'm not going to get all indignant about it. That's a cost. I'll pay it if I want the soda. I can avoid the cost if I want to. Imagine if airlines charged a "meal fee" but then charged you whether you ate or not. That would be a fee! It would be part of the fucking cost!
Yeah, maybe. I dunno, though, it really does take a village to raise a child. Sounds to me like this guy was overstepping his authority (it wasn't even his store, it's a franchise). Still, mom isn't always there to stop a child from doing the wrong thing, and in those situations it is appropriate to step in for the missing mom. (The person stepping in, though, should not be the government.)
Not in this case, though. It's a silly policy in the first place, and implemented in an inappropriate place (someone else's store).
I think you are wrong. It is perfectly fine for a grocer to refuse to sell you his goods because he thinks something bad about you. It's also perfectly fine for a game store owner to refuse to sell his goods to whoever he wants.
However, if it is not your store, or if your store is part of a franchise (as in this case), then it is perfectly fine for the person whose money you are losing to fire you (as in this case). If this guy wants to refuse service to people (which is a recognized right of business owners, with certain exclusions), he needs to do it in a store where other people don't call the shots.
What I'm saying is, nothing to see here, everyone move along.
Well, "guilt" implies a crime. This mater is not a crime, it is a tort, which is totally different.
The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits. -Albert Einstein
Dude, did Einstein incorrectly punctuate that sentence, was it someone who passed on that quote, or was it you? That semicolon makes no sense whatsoever. A colon would be okay, or nothing at all; but not a comma, and certainly not a semicolon. Do yourself a favor and just eliminate it.
In their sideways? What's a sideways? How many sideways does Verizon have? How do the fees go into their sideways? Is a sideway like a bag or a satchel, or more like a pocket? or is it more like a bank account?
That's insightful and true. RMS should hire some liutinent to be the public face, people equally committed to the principles but who are nicer, softer, gentler, and shorn.
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Well, one half of one percent of eighty thousand dollars is four hundred bucks. To fill up a 160 gig iPod with nothing but songs from major labels, that seems a reasonable amount. After all, that's a heck of a lot of music.
But two hundred times that amount does not sound reasonable at all.
Remember this is Slashdot, so you need to say "this BEGS the question..."
What if I have my son to go thru the paper and take out all the ads before I pick up the newspaper. Say furthermore that it is a free little paper paid for by its advertisements.
THEN have I stolen from the paper company?