I think it's about the gear the average person owns. When I demo bluray discs on my setup (a 70" sxrd and a huge sound system with a twin sub setup) you bet your butt they can notice a difference.
But they'd also never spend over 20k on a home hi-fi setup.
Canon do not have a better line up. The only reason they might have a better lineup is if you need tilt/shift lenses or image stabilisation in the 500mm f/4 or 600mm f/4 lenses.
Everywhere else nikon has glass at all ranges and in some areas (most notably wide angle) notably better.
And tell me, what makes a camera superior in design?
The D2x is probably the best engineered camera ever, in usability stakes in blows away the Canon's - come on , even hardcore Canon Pro's admit this! The Canon is better at high iso but everywhere else the d2x is an amazing tool. The canon egonomics are plain crude compared to it.
You are basing your opinion on the cheap amateur bodies, in a thread about the d2x? puhleeze.
So...you've got time to write up a web page about it, got time to bleat on slashdot about it - but no time to actually do anything productive about it.
Being reasonably technical it was kind of a natural progression to get stuck into digital cameras a couple of years ago.
I now work Mon-Friday as a Network Engineer for a ISP (as I have done for quite a few years now), and do wedding photography on weekends.
I tell ya, we complain about putting up with "lusers" and stuff like that but let me assure you that;
1) Hell hath no fury like a bride and her mother on a wedding day
2) To do a wedding properly is serious work. On Saturdays wedding I was up at 6am, out of the house by 7am - a 1hr drive to my business partners house where we check all the gear, load all the studio lighting, reflectors, ladder, camera bags, laptops, 30" LCD (for showing photos at the reception) into the car. We then go to the brides house at 10:30am, do the photos there and then drive over 1hr to the actual wedding venue, do the stuff there and then go to the reception which was only 10mins away thankfully. The reception finished 11pm, and I was back home at about 1:30am. A long day, and on top of all that it was extremely hot, about 35c (Australia). And I then had to get up at 7am to photograph a christening.
It makes my IT job seem fairly cosy in comparison:) But I like the results after a wedding.
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Please do not encourage girls to stop wearing skirts.
We just got a new receptionist the other week, 19 years old, a incredible figure you'd die for. Flat stmach, toned long legs, the works.
The first 2 days she wore tiny miniskirts and mega high heels and lowcut tops. sexy as all hell. Then some inconsiderate manager had a word to her and she now wears boring long pants.
Us techies are still in shock about what we are missing out on.
So again, please encourage girls to continue wearing skirts:)
just a couple of corrections, the Canon 1Ds is 11mp, not 8.
The Canon 1Ds Mk2 is 16.7mp which is a bit more potent.
The only competitor to the 1Ds at the moment is the 14mp Kodak slr/n & slr/c - Nikon is taking a while to catchup and is releasing their 12mp (though 1.5x sensor) in janary.
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Not always in the real world at the moment though - with DSLR's anyway.
i.e. the Canon 20d has 8mp, but is only on a 1.6x sensor and has the best noise / high iso qualities out of all the DSLR's at the moment. Better than the (larger) 1.5x, 1.3x and 1.0x sensors.
As much as I dislike the Canon bodies (looks fondly at Nikon kit) it's the truth at the moment.
One of my cameras is a Kodak SLR/N which is a larger sensor - full frame, and though it's absolutely stunning below 400 ISO, above that the Canon 20d spanks it well and truly.
Moving into the even larger sensors, i.e. medium format digital backs - it's the same story.
I HATED MACS with a passion - OS7/8/9 were such complete piles of garbage. Give me a PC thanks...
But fast forward quite a few years after that and I bought an ipod to use on the (long) train trip to/from work. It was great. That seemed to get me over the apple brand hurdle and as it was so well made it got me curious.
A few months later the time had come to buy a laptop. I looked at the PC's and they weren't bad - for kicks I looked at the powerbook and it looked very nice thank you. I deliberated for a couple of months over it....then bought a old G4 tower from ebay as a test to see if I liked OS X or not....
Well, I did. I'm a Unix/network admin at my Mon-Fri job and the unix underneath of OS X was great. Installed fink and starting running my unix progs, it was great. I was hooked.
In addition I do wedding photography on weekends, and used iDVD to great success with a wedding DVD. That clinched it. I sold the G4 on ebay (and bizarrely made money on it) and bought a 1.5ghz 15" powerbook with all the fruit including 2gb ram. It did cost a lot but it's probably the best machine I've used, simply trouble free.
Apple hadn't finished with my finances yet. When those airport express units came out i thought that would be very nice and bought 2 to wire my whole house up and stream music to my main hi-fi. excellent.
Then I decided a I needed a nice fat display to edit my wedding photos on, so I bought a 23" cinema display for home, and a wireless kb/mouse to make my laptop a "desktop" at home. It's the best display I've ever used. As it was a lot of money I did look around at different brands but the apple got the nod although it was noticeably more expensive, the quality of it is staggering.
Now my wife wants her own laptop after using mine a bit at night, or an iMac G5. And I want to get a dual G5 2.5ghz as one of the cameras I use for weddings generates 80mb files which does take a little while to load on the powerbook:)
So you can see from an ipod sale apple got a fair bit of money out of me. My wife being a school teacher we bought it all on education pricing but it was still a lot of money.
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What will I do with 32 tablets in the house?
I have never read such drivel. Saying they are not fit for serious use is laughable.
I think it's about the gear the average person owns. When I demo bluray discs on my setup (a 70" sxrd and a huge sound system with a twin sub setup) you bet your butt they can notice a difference.
But they'd also never spend over 20k on a home hi-fi setup.
It doesn't need to be FF (though that doesn't hurt).
The Canon 20d and 30d are also excellent at 1600 iso and are 1.6x crop sensors.
Fuji S3 is also very good and is 1.5x
I dunno what dslr you use, but your results are weird. dslr's at 1600 iso are ludicrously better than film at 1600.
if you are getting too much noise, you are underexposing.
I'm a wedding photgrapher and my 2 x canon 5d's absolutely make a mockery of film at high iso.
You couldn't care less that people have died? What a miserable person you are.
I'm the head network engineer at an isp.
2 years ago one of our customers recieved a DDOS email and he called me and asked me what he should do.
I told him to ignore it and honestly I found it quite amusing, thinking it was script kiddies.
I wasn't laughing 24hrs later as they completely saturated our pipes and our border routers (7206 VXR's at the time) were locked at 100% cpu.
I've taken serious steps since then to be ready. it wasnt a pleasant experience though and happened right in middle of business day.
hey,
I've been running tiger for a few days now on my PB - it's definitely snappier, you'll like it.
you are an idiot, that is such bullshit.
I own a d2x, believe me it doesn't slow down the camera. It is an unbelievably fast piece of gear.
Canon do not have a better line up. The only reason they might have a better lineup is if you need tilt/shift lenses or image stabilisation in the 500mm f/4 or 600mm f/4 lenses.
:)
Everywhere else nikon has glass at all ranges and in some areas (most notably wide angle) notably better.
And where is canon's 200/2 and 200-400/4?
And tell me, what makes a camera superior in design?
The D2x is probably the best engineered camera ever, in usability stakes in blows away the Canon's - come on , even hardcore Canon Pro's admit this! The Canon is better at high iso but everywhere else the d2x is an amazing tool. The canon egonomics are plain crude compared to it.
You are basing your opinion on the cheap amateur bodies, in a thread about the d2x? puhleeze.
So...you've got time to write up a web page about it, got time to bleat on slashdot about it - but no time to actually do anything productive about it.
Is that about right?
With the DSLR's at least, you can typically "zoom in" the picture to check sharpness.
you had trouibles ripping a song from CD into MP3?
here's how to do it
1) insert CD
2) Click "import"
gosh. that was hard
When my grandfather passed away, the day after the notice went out in the newspaper, his house was robbed.
Made me damn near physically ill. I'd pay so much money to have 5 minutes in a room with those scum.
I have 2 flatscreens.
A 23" apple cinema display and a toshiba 42" plasma.
Both I feel look better than CRT, they are certainly more punchy with more contrast, at least in my opinion.
15 seconds? Thats really not enough.
I do landscapes with my DSLR's a bit and often the exposures go to 2 minutes.
And the noise at these exposures is probably less than your compact at 15 seconds.
Being reasonably technical it was kind of a natural progression to get stuck into digital cameras a couple of years ago.
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:) But I like the results after a wedding.
I now work Mon-Friday as a Network Engineer for a ISP (as I have done for quite a few years now), and do wedding photography on weekends.
I tell ya, we complain about putting up with "lusers" and stuff like that but let me assure you that
1) Hell hath no fury like a bride and her mother on a wedding day
2) To do a wedding properly is serious work. On Saturdays wedding I was up at 6am, out of the house by 7am - a 1hr drive to my business partners house where we check all the gear, load all the studio lighting, reflectors, ladder, camera bags, laptops, 30" LCD (for showing photos at the reception) into the car. We then go to the brides house at 10:30am, do the photos there and then drive over 1hr to the actual wedding venue, do the stuff there and then go to the reception which was only 10mins away thankfully. The reception finished 11pm, and I was back home at about 1:30am. A long day, and on top of all that it was extremely hot, about 35c (Australia). And I then had to get up at 7am to photograph a christening.
It makes my IT job seem fairly cosy in comparison
Please do not encourage girls to stop wearing skirts.
:)
We just got a new receptionist the other week, 19 years old, a incredible figure you'd die for. Flat stmach, toned long legs, the works.
The first 2 days she wore tiny miniskirts and mega high heels and lowcut tops. sexy as all hell. Then some inconsiderate manager had a word to her and she now wears boring long pants.
Us techies are still in shock about what we are missing out on.
So again, please encourage girls to continue wearing skirts
Dude, we were there 2-3 years ago. Today we are outdoing film in overall tech quality, we just need more dynamic range and it's all over.
"That would be cool, because you could shoot film-quality photographs at poster size if you wanted."
just a couple of corrections, the Canon 1Ds is 11mp, not 8.
The Canon 1Ds Mk2 is 16.7mp which is a bit more potent.
The only competitor to the 1Ds at the moment is the 14mp Kodak slr/n & slr/c - Nikon is taking a while to catchup and is releasing their 12mp (though 1.5x sensor) in janary.
Not always in the real world at the moment though - with DSLR's anyway.
i.e. the Canon 20d has 8mp, but is only on a 1.6x sensor and has the best noise / high iso qualities out of all the DSLR's at the moment. Better than the (larger) 1.5x, 1.3x and 1.0x sensors.
As much as I dislike the Canon bodies (looks fondly at Nikon kit) it's the truth at the moment.
One of my cameras is a Kodak SLR/N which is a larger sensor - full frame, and though it's absolutely stunning below 400 ISO, above that the Canon 20d spanks it well and truly.
Moving into the even larger sensors, i.e. medium format digital backs - it's the same story.
hope you are enjoying your dodgy 16-35L and 17-40L :)
:)
When canon work out how to make a decent wide angle lens let me know ok?
I HATED MACS with a passion - OS7/8/9 were such complete piles of garbage. Give me a PC thanks...
:)
But fast forward quite a few years after that and I bought an ipod to use on the (long) train trip to/from work. It was great. That seemed to get me over the apple brand hurdle and as it was so well made it got me curious.
A few months later the time had come to buy a laptop. I looked at the PC's and they weren't bad - for kicks I looked at the powerbook and it looked very nice thank you. I deliberated for a couple of months over it....then bought a old G4 tower from ebay as a test to see if I liked OS X or not....
Well, I did. I'm a Unix/network admin at my Mon-Fri job and the unix underneath of OS X was great. Installed fink and starting running my unix progs, it was great. I was hooked.
In addition I do wedding photography on weekends, and used iDVD to great success with a wedding DVD. That clinched it. I sold the G4 on ebay (and bizarrely made money on it) and bought a 1.5ghz 15" powerbook with all the fruit including 2gb ram. It did cost a lot but it's probably the best machine I've used, simply trouble free.
Apple hadn't finished with my finances yet. When those airport express units came out i thought that would be very nice and bought 2 to wire my whole house up and stream music to my main hi-fi. excellent.
Then I decided a I needed a nice fat display to edit my wedding photos on, so I bought a 23" cinema display for home, and a wireless kb/mouse to make my laptop a "desktop" at home. It's the best display I've ever used. As it was a lot of money I did look around at different brands but the apple got the nod although it was noticeably more expensive, the quality of it is staggering.
Now my wife wants her own laptop after using mine a bit at night, or an iMac G5. And I want to get a dual G5 2.5ghz as one of the cameras I use for weddings generates 80mb files which does take a little while to load on the powerbook
So you can see from an ipod sale apple got a fair bit of money out of me. My wife being a school teacher we bought it all on education pricing but it was still a lot of money.